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The senior tour will be lucky to still exist when Tiger turns 50… dsc
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can you really see Tiger playing the senior tour? I just can’t visualise it, much like I can’t visualise Greg Norman playing there. Yeah, that’s what we all say, but so far, every good golfer has gone (or am I forgetting someone?) 20 years ago, we could have said the same thing about Nicklaus.
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Like many modern athletes (Mark McGwire, Shak, Jordan, etc) many have or will retire before making themselves really famous in the record books because they simply have the money to retire and not worry about it. I would hope Tiger continues to go for the records of Nicklaus both Majors and Total Victories. Like it was a shame to see McGwire retire before breaking Hank’s HR record (with Bonds right behind him), it would be a shame to see Tiger retire when he is still good.
As long as he does what I plan on doing when I retire – play golf, and compete in tournaments that I can play in.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t say It’s not possible, but don’t you think in this 9 year period a new Tiger will show up after all 9 years ago was about the time that tiger first came into the picture ( maybe 10 or 11 years ago ). So you don’t know what will happen the next decade do you. Maybe, but let’s assume that Tiger *is* the new Nicklaus – how long did it take for the second coming to show up? Let’s say Jack stopped being Jack in ‘86 (was earlier, really, but we’ll use that for arguments sake). Tiger won his first major in ‘97. That’s eleven years. Or, 2008. Woods could have won 19 majors by then.
I don’t know how many golfers there were when Jack came along but I know for sure there’s a lot more now.In the Netherlands where I live 20 years ago there were less then 10.000 golfers now there are 170.000 and it is the fastest growing sport here.The more golf gets out of the elite and gets cheaper ( it’s still pretty expensive here ) the more chances are that talents come to surface.Thus making it harder for Tiger to stay on top as long as Jack was. Bouli from the country of orange.
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Oh! you mean endoursements. you should have said. but then again, anyone can get those…
Riiiiiighhhhhht…..
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At 46 Tiger won’t be playing golf. The stress that he must put on his spine with the speed of his swing will bring him grief. Look at that contortion he put himself in to hit that 90 degree shot from under the trees. No back can stand that kind of punishment! Pat Williams And why would he want to?
Maybe for the same reason Arnold Palmer doesn’t want to give in and quit at age 72… dsc
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<snippy Let’s face it – the only competition he has now is Jack Nicklaus. the exactly not true. JN didn’t even play the masters this year, in case you weren’t watching… even if he had played, TW woulda beaten him by miles.
Did you feel the breeze as that one went right over your head… 
dsc
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<snippy Woods already has about 200 million USD. By 2010 he’ll have over a billion. wow! those are pretty big numbers. let’s see: each win = 1mill. that would make hime a 200 time winner… wow!! Oh! you mean endoursements. you should have said. but then again, anyone can get those…
Sure they can, that’s why golfers by the hundreds are racking up millions in endorsement deals, just like Tiger. Aren’t they? Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time? errr…. a few years back (BT – before tiger) many doubted we’d ever see another to rival JN. and here we have. to doubt we’ll ever see anyone to rival TW is naive.
The future does not count as "all time," as it’s not time that yet exists. But you knew that, didn’t you?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – At 46 Tiger won’t be playing golf. The stress that he must put on his spine with the speed of his swing will bring him grief. Look at that contortion he put himself in to hit that 90 degree shot from under the trees. No back can stand that kind of punishment! Pat Williams And why would he want to? He’s 26 now. Let’s assume he averages three major wins every two years (we’ll count this victory as the first of the two-year period). 2002-2003 – 9 total major wins 2004-2005 – 12 2006-2007 – 15 2008-2009 – 18 2010-2011 – 19+ So, by 2011 Tiger can beat Jack’s record (in both pro and pro+amateur majors) and retire… at the ripe old age of 35. Even assuming that those numbers are too confident, assuming he plays until he’s forty and only wins one major a year he can still beat Jack’s record as a young man. 2002 – 7 total major wins 2003 – 8 2004 – 9 2005 – 10 2006 – 11 2007 – 12 2008 – 13 2009 – 14 2010 – 15 2011 – 16 2012 – 17 2013 – 18 2014 – 19 total major wins (22 win amateurs) In 2014, Tiger will be 38. Let’s face it – the only competition he has now is Jack Nicklaus. And I can’t see him teeing it up as an old man. Golf isn’t like that any more. Palmer, Nicklaus etc kept playing because they needed the money – it only arrived in golf really from the 80s onwards, and boomed in the 90s and this decade. Woods already has about 200 million USD. By 2010 he’ll have over a billion. Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time?
Like many modern athletes (Mark McGwire, Shak, Jordan, etc) many have or will retire before making themselves really famous in the record books because they simply have the money to retire and not worry about it. I would hope Tiger continues to go for the records of Nicklaus both Majors and Total Victories. Like it was a shame to see McGwire retire before breaking Hank’s HR record (with Bonds right behind him), it would be a shame to see Tiger retire when he is still good.
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I don’t say It’s not possible, but don’t you think in this 9 year period a new Tiger will show up after all 9 years ago was about the time that tiger first came into the picture ( maybe 10 or 11 years ago ). So you don’t know what will happen the next decade do you.
Maybe, but let’s assume that Tiger *is* the new Nicklaus – how long did it take for the second coming to show up? Let’s say Jack stopped being Jack in ‘86 (was earlier, really, but we’ll use that for arguments sake). Tiger won his first major in ‘97. That’s eleven years. Or, 2008. Woods could have won 19 majors by then.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – At 46 Tiger won’t be playing golf. The stress that he must put on his spine with the speed of his swing will bring him grief. Look at that contortion he put himself in to hit that 90 degree shot from under the trees. No back can stand that kind of punishment! Pat Williams And why would he want to? He’s 26 now. Let’s assume he averages three major wins every two years (we’ll count this victory as the first of the two-year period). 2002-2003 – 9 total major wins 2004-2005 – 12 2006-2007 – 15 2008-2009 – 18 2010-2011 – 19+
I don’t say It’s not possible, but don’t you think in this 9 year period a new Tiger will show up after all 9 years ago was about the time that tiger first came into the picture ( maybe 10 or 11 years ago ). So you don’t know what will happen the next decade do you. Bouli from the country of orange. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So, by 2011 Tiger can beat Jack’s record (in both pro and pro+amateur majors) and retire… at the ripe old age of 35. Even assuming that those numbers are too confident, assuming he plays until he’s forty and only wins one major a year he can still beat Jack’s record as a young man. 2002 – 7 total major wins 2003 – 8 2004 – 9 2005 – 10 2006 – 11 2007 – 12 2008 – 13 2009 – 14 2010 – 15 2011 – 16 2012 – 17 2013 – 18 2014 – 19 total major wins (22 win amateurs) In 2014, Tiger will be 38. Let’s face it – the only competition he has now is Jack Nicklaus. And I can’t see him teeing it up as an old man. Golf isn’t like that any more. Palmer, Nicklaus etc kept playing because they needed the money – it only arrived in golf really from the 80s onwards, and boomed in the 90s and this decade. Woods already has about 200 million USD. By 2010 he’ll have over a billion. Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time?
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<snippy Let’s face it – the only competition he has now is Jack Nicklaus.
the exactly not true. JN didn’t even play the masters this year, in case you weren’t watching… even if he had played, TW woulda beaten him by miles. And I can’t see him teeing it up as an old man. Golf isn’t like that any more. Palmer, Nicklaus etc kept playing because they needed the money – it only arrived in golf really from the 80s onwards, and boomed in the 90s and this decade. Woods already has about 200 million USD. By 2010 he’ll have over a
billion. wow! those are pretty big numbers. let’s see: each win = 1mill. that would make hime a 200 time winner… wow!! Oh! you mean endoursements. you should have said. but then again, anyone can get those… Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time?
errr…. a few years back (BT – before tiger) many doubted we’d ever see another to rival JN. and here we have. to doubt we’ll ever see anyone to rival TW is naive.
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Let’s face it – the only competition he has now is Jack Nicklaus. the exactly not true. JN didn’t even play the masters this year, in case you weren’t watching… even if he had played, TW woulda beaten him by miles.
Er… I am aware of that. I meant that Woods only rival in terms of *history* is Jack Nicklaus. That, after all, is the point with Tiger – to beat Jack. Sheesh… as if I’d be suggesting Nicklaus was a rival on the tour now. (!) wow! those are pretty big numbers. let’s see: each win = 1mill. that would make hime a 200 time winner… wow!! Oh! you mean endoursements. you should have said. but then again, anyone can get those…
Er… that’s besides the point (???). Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time? errr…. a few years back (BT – before tiger) many doubted we’d ever see another to rival JN. and here we have. to doubt we’ll ever see anyone to rival TW is naive.
Um, did you actually read my post? Who said anything about someone *not* rivalling Tiger? That’s a different thread (and I’ve commented on that elsewhere). Besides, nobody ‘rivalled Nicklaus in his prime. It took twenty odd years for somebody comparable to come along. This thread is about Tiger beating Nicklaus’s major victory total, and how he could do that at a modest pace and still finish whilst under forty. Please read posts more carefully before jumping to incorrect conclusions.
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Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time?
Because… it’s fun? Although I think I recall Tiger saying that it’s not really fun, it’s just a job to him. So he might quit sooner than others. But if I had the chance, I don’t think I’d stop till I got to the Senior tour at least.
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Can you really see Tiger playing the senior tour? I just can’t visualise it, much like I can’t visualise Greg Norman playing there. I think some of these guys care less about the golf part and more about competiting against the best, titles etc. I mean, Norman just as easily could have been a big game fisherman. Of course, he’d have had his share of lines snapping just as he was about to land ‘The General’, but you know what I mean. Couples ‘Major Winners’ tour is more attractive to these fellows (if it happens.) Although that to me kind of stinks of "We can’t compete any more – let’s take our ball to another field."
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time? Because… it’s fun? Although I think I recall Tiger saying that it’s not really fun, it’s just a job to him. So he might quit sooner than others. But if I had the chance, I don’t think I’d stop till I got to the Senior tour at least.
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Why continue to have sex when you’ve slept with about every beautiful woman you’ve seen? Answer – because it’s fun!
and like golf.. you are always in search of that perfect stroke.. =]
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Can you really see Tiger playing the senior tour? I just can’t visualise it, much like I can’t visualise Greg Norman playing there.
Yeah, that’s what we all say, but so far, every good golfer has gone (or am I forgetting someone?) 20 years ago, we could have said the same thing about Nicklaus.
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Why continue to have sex when you’ve slept with about every beautiful woman you’ve seen? Answer – because it’s fun! That’s why most of the top golfers keep plugging long past their primes and long past the time when money meant anything to their life-styles. If most of them weren’t consumed by playing it they wouldn’t have gotten to where they are. If Jack Nicklaus has one wish to be granted to him, it would be his ability to play the Masters making the cut so he could play the weekend. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – At 46 Tiger won’t be playing golf. The stress that he must put on his spine Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time?
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At 46 Tiger won’t be playing golf. The stress that he must put on his spine with the speed of his swing will bring him grief. Look at that contortion he put himself in to hit that 90 degree shot from under the trees. No back can stand that kind of punishment! Pat Williams
And why would he want to? He’s 26 now. Let’s assume he averages three major wins every two years (we’ll count this victory as the first of the two-year period). 2002-2003 – 9 total major wins 2004-2005 – 12 2006-2007 – 15 2008-2009 – 18 2010-2011 – 19+ So, by 2011 Tiger can beat Jack’s record (in both pro and pro+amateur majors) and retire… at the ripe old age of 35. Even assuming that those numbers are too confident, assuming he plays until he’s forty and only wins one major a year he can still beat Jack’s record as a young man. 2002 – 7 total major wins 2003 – 8 2004 – 9 2005 – 10 2006 – 11 2007 – 12 2008 – 13 2009 – 14 2010 – 15 2011 – 16 2012 – 17 2013 – 18 2014 – 19 total major wins (22 win amateurs) In 2014, Tiger will be 38. Let’s face it – the only competition he has now is Jack Nicklaus. And I can’t see him teeing it up as an old man. Golf isn’t like that any more. Palmer, Nicklaus etc kept playing because they needed the money – it only arrived in golf really from the 80s onwards, and boomed in the 90s and this decade. Woods already has about 200 million USD. By 2010 he’ll have over a billion. Why bother teeing it up when you’ve proven yourself the best of all time?