I played it year before last, 2000, in the spring. Yep, that would be a haul to get up there to River Hills. Good luck! My daughter is now on her way to Denver (I hope), so I probably won’t be getting down there any more. Except for the mosquitoes and humidity, not a bad place to live. The house my daughter had there, for 110K would sell for about 400K here in DC area. PZ
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dave Pharaoh’s was awful the one time I played it. We tried to get our greens fees back. Not a bad layout, but the fairways were a mix of mud and weeds. Off the fairway, just mud. Bad experience. When was that? They’ve been under new ownership for the last couple of years and have been pouring some money into the course. I played there about a year ago shortly after they had laid a bunch of sod in some of the fairways. Sometimes the ball would land in the small spaces between the individual squares so we’d just roll it. But the saving grace was that the greens were in pretty good shape. Then I played about six months ago and the fairways had grown in pretty well, but a few of the greens were kind of shabby. And you’re right about the rough–on a couple of holes at least they could be best described as mud flats. This IS the course I referred to in my original post as the over-priced semi-private club. The bad thing is that even in any one of those states, it’s in better shape than the navy course is at present. Hopefully that wont be true in the not too distant future. I don’t think River Hills is that expensive. No initiation fee. Just a thought. My daughter lived in that area, two blocks from the WalMart, so it was really convenient for her and her husband. They are moving up to Denver, though, so gave up their membership. Well if you’re familiar with Corpus, then you know it’s shape is kind of like a large banana. Calallen (where RiverHills is) is at the far northern end and I live in Flour Bluff which is the southern most end (excluding Padre Island). So it’s not a place I could get too after work to play on weekdays which is the only way I could justify paying a membership. Corpus is kind of bleak for public golf, isn’t it? You got that right! The topic of a new muni comes up all the time and there are a couple of city councilmen pushing it. The other possibility is that Padre Island is poised for some major development if the channel to the gulf is opened. For a city that depends a lot on tourism–you’d think they’d go after the typically affluent types that play resort golf. We’ll see. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
Dave Pharaoh’s was awful the one time I played it. We tried to get our greens fees back. Not a bad layout, but the fairways were a mix of mud and weeds. Off the fairway, just mud. Bad experience.
When was that? They’ve been under new ownership for the last couple of years and have been pouring some money into the course. I played there about a year ago shortly after they had laid a bunch of sod in some of the fairways. Sometimes the ball would land in the small spaces between the individual squares so we’d just roll it. But the saving grace was that the greens were in pretty good shape. Then I played about six months ago and the fairways had grown in pretty well, but a few of the greens were kind of shabby. And you’re right about the rough–on a couple of holes at least they could be best described as mud flats. This IS the course I referred to in my original post as the over-priced semi-private club. The bad thing is that even in any one of those states, it’s in better shape than the navy course is at present. Hopefully that wont be true in the not too distant future. I don’t think River Hills is that expensive. No initiation fee. Just a thought. My daughter lived in that area, two blocks from the WalMart, so it was really convenient for her and her husband. They are moving up to Denver, though, so gave up their membership.
Well if you’re familiar with Corpus, then you know it’s shape is kind of like a large banana. Calallen (where RiverHills is) is at the far northern end and I live in Flour Bluff which is the southern most end (excluding Padre Island). So it’s not a place I could get too after work to play on weekdays which is the only way I could justify paying a membership. Corpus is kind of bleak for public golf, isn’t it?
You got that right! The topic of a new muni comes up all the time and there are a couple of city councilmen pushing it. The other possibility is that Padre Island is poised for some major development if the channel to the gulf is opened. For a city that depends a lot on tourism–you’d think they’d go after the typically affluent types that play resort golf. We’ll see. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
Dave Pharaoh’s was awful the one time I played it. We tried to get our greens fees back. Not a bad layout, but the fairways were a mix of mud and weeds. Off the fairway, just mud. Bad experience. I don’t think River Hills is that expensive. No initiation fee. Just a thought. My daughter lived in that area, two blocks from the WalMart, so it was really convenient for her and her husband. They are moving up to Denver, though, so gave up their membership. Corpus is kind of bleak for public golf, isn’t it? Pete Z
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dave, You ever check out River Hills? My daughter belonged there. Not a bad layout, except for a couple of strange holes. Nope…never have. For one thing it’s private. If I had stayed with my last company, I probably would have managed an invite eventually. I’m considering joining Pharaoh’s until the base course reopens. I need to go see what kind of shape it’s in. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
Dave, You ever check out River Hills? My daughter belonged there. Not a bad layout, except for a couple of strange holes.
Nope…never have. For one thing it’s private. If I had stayed with my last company, I probably would have managed an invite eventually. I’m considering joining Pharaoh’s until the base course reopens. I need to go see what kind of shape it’s in. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
You should call the pro at Padre Isles and encourage him to come up with some sort of military discount plan. :)
Hmmm. Not a bad idea…it might fly. I’ll give him a call. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
Dave, You ever check out River Hills? My daughter belonged there. Not a bad layout, except for a couple of strange holes. Pete Z
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The front nine of my home course will be shut down this Monday–the rest of the course to follow in a few weeks. That means either fighting with the masses for tee times to play slooooooooooooow golf on one of our muni’s, or forking out for an over-priced semi-private club in the area. Neither one is a pleasant prospect. I played nine holes today and it took damn near 2.5 hours. That just ain’t my kind of golf. I guess it will be worth it when we get our refurbished course back in the fall (maybe). They are totally rebuilding about half the greens and reseeding the rest. The course will be about 150 yards longer from the back tees–don’t know about the whites. But I don’t care as long as we don’t have to play bump-and-run shots over the moguls on the greens anymore! Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
The front nine of my home course will be shut down this Monday–the rest of the course to follow in a few weeks. That means either fighting with the masses for tee times to play slooooooooooooow golf on one of our muni’s, or forking out for an over-priced semi-private club in the area. Neither one is a pleasant prospect. I played nine holes today and it took damn near 2.5 hours. That just ain’t my kind of golf. I guess it will be worth it when we get our refurbished course back in the fall (maybe). They are totally rebuilding about half the greens and reseeding the rest. The course will be about 150 yards longer from the back tees–don’t know about the whites. But I don’t care as long as we don’t have to play bump-and-run shots over the moguls on the greens anymore! Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
: The front nine of my home course will be shut down this Monday–the : rest of the course to follow in a few weeks. That means either : fighting with the masses for tee times to play slooooooooooooow golf : on one of our muni’s, or forking out for an over-priced semi-private : club in the area. Neither one is a pleasant prospect. I played nine : holes today and it took damn near 2.5 hours. That just ain’t my kind : of golf. You should call the pro at Padre Isles and encourage him to come up with some sort of military discount plan. :) cb
I got pretty fed up reading about how so many of you were getting out, enjoying this global warming, knowing that I’d been missing out. Finally the day arrived when I was able to get out and enjoy some of it myself. That day was today. Played White Columns this morning, said to be the best public golf course in metro Atlanta. I’d never played it before. Dang if I didn’t play the last ten holes in 2-over (giving myself a mullie on 18). The first eight holes? Uh….not sure. We were playing a litte hawk game (best ball), but it was probably a fairly average 7 over or thereabouts. Nothing great, nothing terrible. Showed early signs of promising play when I stuck a 3-wood on the green of the first par three (#2, as I recall). Had it right on line, but it was all I had to get on the front. The pin was back, leaving a 60-footer. But I two-putted and won the hole for our side. God it’s nice to putt on perfect (and quick) greens. These were like pool tables (except not as flat). Birdie in the corner pocket. Cha-ching! Heck, I wanted to keep playing when we finished, but I couldn’t play there (we were guests) so I went to the course where I play most of my golf and got on quickly there. Should have quit after 18, as the magic was gone. But boy, oh, boy, it was sure good to get out. There were two guys with whom I played today — one in each round — wearing shorts. Shorts in January. I was in slacks and burning up. Felt like it got up to near 80 today. Wow. My dawgs are sure barkin’ now, though. It’s been a while since I’ve done 36 holes in a day, and it’s been years and years since I"ve played two rounds at two different courses on the same day. It’s surely never happened before this early in the year. Love the new irons and fairway woods. That’s the best damn 3 wood I’ve ever had. I smoked it every time I hit it. Keep this warm weather comin’. — Randy Troll intolerant. I took the RSG 2002 Pledge. Please see RSG Usenet Ignore Penalty (UIP) concerning trolls: http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/ "Smoke ‘em out … dead or alive, I don’t care." - G. Bush I do not patronize those who advertise in RSG. RSG-ATLANTA 2002 – www.YouGoGolf.com/rsga.org Golf on the web – www.YouGoGolf.com
I live in Florida and get to play all year long. I think that if I was in your position I would play in January, weather permitting, and not be too concerned about my score.
Randy usually does too (does it ever really get cold in Atlanta), but the freak snowstorm they got down there threw everything off for awhile. Now those of us that live a little more northern who rarely, if ever, get to play golf in January, this little taste of spring has been great. Chris
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I live in Florida and get to play all year long. I think that if I was in your position I would play in January, weather permitting, and not be too concerned about my score.
Nice story Randy. In Phoenix tomorrow the high will be 48*, with rain. Maybe snow in Scottsdale. By the time this gets to the rest of you East of me—watch out. It’s coming and it’ll spoil your party. You should play tomorrow. Brad – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keep this warm weather comin’. — Randy Troll intolerant. I took the RSG 2002 Pledge. Please see RSG Usenet Ignore Penalty (UIP) concerning trolls: http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/ "Smoke ‘em out … dead or alive, I don’t care." - G. Bush I do not patronize those who advertise in RSG. RSG-ATLANTA 2002 – www.YouGoGolf.com/rsga.org Golf on the web – www.YouGoGolf.com
Nice story Randy. In Phoenix tomorrow the high will be 48*, with rain. Maybe snow in Scottsdale. By the time this gets to the rest of you East of me—watch out. It’s coming and it’ll spoil your party. You should play tomorrow.
In the 80s today and again tomorrow; however, we’re getting a nice blast of cold air Thursday. I have a tentative lesson scheduled for 10pm Friday–my pro doesn’t do cold! 
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10pm Friday–my pro doesn’t do cold!
He doesn’t do nights either–make that 10am. Say good nite Dave.
""R&B"" <SLAM_SPAM_THANK_YA_MA’AM writes: I got pretty fed up reading about how so many of you were getting out, enjoying this global warming, knowing that I’d been missing out. Finally the day arrived when I was able to get out and enjoy some of it myself. That day was today.
Well, I think a lot of us midwesters won’t be tormenting you for a while, since there’s a big storm moving through, and where I am in Iowa we’re told we’ll have 4-8" of snow by Thursday night. We’ve dodged a couple storms but this one looks big enough it’ll be pretty hard for it to miss. Might have to wait all the way until March before we can play again! I am amused how a lot of the people getting out have been doing 27 or 36 holes. I’ve been out three times this January, and it was nine holes each time. There’s only so much putting on greens that roll about as well as a cobblestone path that I can take before I have to call it quits to preserve what little confidence I still have in my putter! — If the RIAA sold CPUs, they’d be bribing Congress to make overclocking a felony
Next, you’ll be telling me, you shoot up just like Mr. Burroughs too! You really do miss Mommy’s tit, don’t you?
Just YOUR mommy’s.
As you can see, Annika, people have been mighty pissed off since you posted this garbage, but don’t worry, it’s not like anyone here had any respect for you BEFORE you posted this either.
Kill the messenger!
What do they have to call you, "Boss Man," or "Master?" Next, you’ll be telling me, you shoot up just like Mr. Burroughs too! You really do miss Mommy’s tit, don’t you?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Always, your photographs depict a white, racist, anti-Semitic, bigoted America, in a private golf club, oblivious to everyone else except themselves. Except for a couple of golf pros, I see no other minorities in your pictures. Normally I’d ignore your stupid ignorant bullshit, but this time I gotta tell ya ….. "Go fuck yourself! HARD!" You obviously haven’t been paying attention in class. Let me school you some more. I work at a public golf course with a large number of minorities who play there. My SO teaches at an inner-city school. Here is but a sampling of some of my pics showing minorites: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=12853082&p=48087088 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=12853082&p=54821651 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=12853082&p=54821586 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=12853082&p=54821619 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=13957712&p=56076344 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=4195916&p=20624994 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=4195916&p=20625002 http://members.aol.com/annika1980/hayride.jpg Need some more? I got lots.
Always, your photographs depict a white, racist, anti-Semitic, bigoted America, in a private golf club, oblivious to everyone else except themselves. Except for a couple of golf pros, I see no other minorities in your pictures.
Normally I’d ignore your stupid ignorant bullshit, but this time I gotta tell ya ….. "Go fuck yourself! HARD!" You obviously haven’t been paying attention in class. Let me school you some more. I work at a public golf course with a large number of minorities who play there. My SO teaches at an inner-city school. Here is but a sampling of some of my pics showing minorites: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=12853082&p=48087088 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=12853082&p=54821651 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=12853082&p=54821586 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=12853082&p=54821619 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=13957712&p=56076344 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=4195916&p=20624994 http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=574424&a=4195916&p=20625002 http://members.aol.com/annika1980/hayride.jpg Need some more? I got lots.
A Thanksgiving Prayer by William S. Burroughs
[snip] I must say, Annika, your literary taste is almost as good as your photographic taste. It also seems that the quality of judgement that you show when looking through the viewfinder of your EOS-1v extends to the rest your activities as well. As you can see, Annika, people have been mighty pissed off since you posted this garbage, but don’t worry, it’s not like anyone here had any respect for you BEFORE you posted this either. — Scott Ullman (Remove "i_hate_spam" and change "ude" to "edu" to send e-mail.)
Now that’s even more interesting: leicaaddict also seems to have a quite differentiated view of america. But why do they all yell? Maybe just for the fun of it. . . . . Just my 2 Pfennigs . . . Joerg — "To those of you who received honors, awards and distinctions, I say, well done. And to the C students, I say, you too can be president of the United States." – PRESIDENT BUSH, to Yale’s graduates Joerg Daehn Tele-/Mobilfon: +49 511/178 80 77 866 30173 Hannover Unified Messaging: +491212 5 124 25 241 Deutschland
with the stunned growth and two digit IQ? SEEK HELP! Why? With only a single-digit IQ, you seem to be able to operate a computer without help.
Re: WSB, it’s always amazed me that someone so anti-American, who could live anywhere in the world, would choose Lawrence Kansas. Not to mention that the fortune he somehow succeeded in shooting into his arm came from the system he so hated. As far as literary talent, I suspect that any photographer that shot as few keepers as Burroughs wrote would soon be doing paint-by-numbers. Bob Hickey http://photos.yahoo.com/rollei711
You’re quoting the drug induced ravings of a Heroin Junky, just to get attention. Just like you used to lay in your cradle crying for Mommy’s tit when she withheld it. Yet unlike Salgado, I don’t see you going to the ends of the earth to photograph and bring to our attention people in need. Then I would understand you quoting Burroughs. Always, your photographs depict a white, racist, anti-Semitic, bigoted America, in a private golf club, oblivious to everyone else except themselves. Except for a couple of golf pros, I see no other minorities in your pictures. I was going to say that you’re a phony and a loser, but you’re just a liar, totally without ethics or basic human dignity, trying to paint a picture of yourself that doesn’t really exist. If you’re not part of the solution, then you’re part of the problem. Can you see my middle finger?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What wrong, didn’t Mommy suckle you at the tit when you were a baby? But then what’s with the stunned growth and two digit IQ? SEEK HELP! I’ll go real slow here for you. First off, it’s "stunted." Secondly, those were not my words that I posted. You see, there once was a man named William F. Burroughs….. Ah, nevermind, you wouldn’t understand anyway. "Death needs Time for what it kills to grow in for Ah Pook’s sweet sake, you stupid, vulgar, greedy, ugly American Death Sucker." -WFB
Happy Thanksgiving to you. You been drinkin’, son?
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Stunned growth? Shaq’s growth probably stunned his parents but somehow I don’t think this is what you meant. Stunted perhaps?
I assumed he did. Hence the (sic). Or [sic]. I can never remember which is proper.
What wrong, didn’t Mommy suckle you at the tit when you were a baby? But then what’s with the stunned growth and two digit IQ? SEEK HELP!
I’ll go real slow here for you. First off, it’s "stunted." Secondly, those were not my words that I posted. You see, there once was a man named William F. Burroughs….. Ah, nevermind, you wouldn’t understand anyway. "Death needs Time for what it kills to grow in for Ah Pook’s sweet sake, you stupid, vulgar, greedy, ugly American Death Sucker." -WFB
What wrong, didn’t Mommy suckle you at the tit when you were a baby? But then what’s with the stunned growth and two digit IQ? SEEK HELP!
Whatever you may think of Annika, appreciation for Burroughs is hardly the sign of "stunned (sic) growth" and a small IQ.
With much love, Glenn (Leicaddict) Travis
Well he does have a name! Vince Check out my web-site http://www.holvbphoto.com More user friendly then ever see the new stars
Stunned growth? Shaq’s growth probably stunned his parents but somehow I don’t think this is what you meant. Stunted perhaps?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What wrong, didn’t Mommy suckle you at the tit when you were a baby? But then what’s with the stunned growth and two digit IQ? SEEK HELP! Whatever you may think of Annika, appreciation for Burroughs is hardly the sign of "stunned (sic) growth" and a small IQ.
What wrong, didn’t Mommy suckle you at the tit when you were a baby? But then what’s with the stunned growth and two digit IQ? SEEK HELP! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This weekend, we in the US, as a nation, give thanks for our blessings. For me, this NewsGroup is one of the blessings I’ll be giving thanks for. While many ngs seem to flounder for want of interest, this ng just keeps rolling on. You are the most interesting, most intelligent, most articulate, group of people I’ve ever had the privilage of interacting with, and I just wanted to say, "THANK YOU!" With much love, Glenn (Leicaddict) Travis A Thanksgiving Prayer by William S. Burroughs Thanks for the wild turkey and the passenger pigeons, destined to be shit out through wholesome American guts. Thanks for a continent to despoil and poison. Thanks for Indians to provide a modicum of challenge and danger. Thanks for vast herds of bison to kill and skin leaving the carcasses to rot. Thanks for bounties on wolves and coyotes. Thanks for the American dream, To vulgarize and to falsify until the bare lies shine through. Thanks for the KKK. For nigger-killin’ lawmen, feelin’ their notches. For decent church-goin’ women, with their mean, pinched, bitter, evil faces. Thanks for "Kill a Queer for Christ" stickers. Thanks for laboratory AIDS. Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody’s allowed to mind the own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories– all right let’s see your arms! You always were a headache and you always were a bore. Thanks for the last and greatest betrayal of the last and greatest of human dreams.
Now that’s interesting!!! Annika seems to have a quite differntiated view on American Patriotism. Or Maybe he just wanted to provoke some comments. Damn. 
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William S. Burrough’s Rules!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This weekend, we in the US, as a nation, give thanks for our blessings. For me, this NewsGroup is one of the blessings I’ll be giving thanks for. While many ngs seem to flounder for want of interest, this ng just keeps rolling on. You are the most interesting, most intelligent, most articulate, group of people I’ve ever had the privilage of interacting with, and I just wanted to say, "THANK YOU!" With much love, Glenn (Leicaddict) Travis A Thanksgiving Prayer by William S. Burroughs Thanks for the wild turkey and the passenger pigeons, destined to be shit out through wholesome American guts. Thanks for a continent to despoil and poison. Thanks for Indians to provide a modicum of challenge and danger. Thanks for vast herds of bison to kill and skin leaving the carcasses to rot. Thanks for bounties on wolves and coyotes. Thanks for the American dream, To vulgarize and to falsify until the bare lies shine through. Thanks for the KKK. For nigger-killin’ lawmen, feelin’ their notches. For decent church-goin’ women, with their mean, pinched, bitter, evil faces. Thanks for "Kill a Queer for Christ" stickers. Thanks for laboratory AIDS. Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody’s allowed to mind the own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories– all right let’s see your arms! You always were a headache and you always were a bore. Thanks for the last and greatest betrayal of the last and greatest of human dreams.
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You are the most interesting, most intelligent, most articulate, group of people I’ve ever had the privilage of interacting with, and I just wanted to say, "THANK YOU!"
You need to get out more . . .
<<You are the most interesting, most intelligent, most articulate, group of people I’ve ever had the privilage of interacting with Well, in general they’re about as smart as a bag of hammers, but still light years ahead of those on Leica newsgroups.
This weekend, we in the US, as a nation, give thanks for our blessings. For me, this NewsGroup is one of the blessings I’ll be giving thanks for. While many ngs seem to flounder for want of interest, this ng just keeps rolling on. You are the most interesting, most intelligent, most articulate, group of people I’ve ever had the privilage of interacting with, and I just wanted to say, "THANK YOU!" With much love, Glenn (Leicaddict) Travis
A Thanksgiving Prayer by William S. Burroughs Thanks for the wild turkey and the passenger pigeons, destined to be shit out through wholesome American guts. Thanks for a continent to despoil and poison. Thanks for Indians to provide a modicum of challenge and danger. Thanks for vast herds of bison to kill and skin leaving the carcasses to rot. Thanks for bounties on wolves and coyotes. Thanks for the American dream, To vulgarize and to falsify until the bare lies shine through. Thanks for the KKK. For nigger-killin’ lawmen, feelin’ their notches. For decent church-goin’ women, with their mean, pinched, bitter, evil faces. Thanks for "Kill a Queer for Christ" stickers. Thanks for laboratory AIDS. Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody’s allowed to mind the own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories– all right let’s see your arms! You always were a headache and you always were a bore. Thanks for the last and greatest betrayal of the last and greatest of human dreams.
A Thanksgiving Prayer by William S. Burroughs Thanks for the wild turkey and the passenger pigeons, destined to be . . .
You forgot one: Thanks for the freedom to speak such absolute nonsense without being cast in prison or beaten to within an inch of your life. It’s good to see that you’re taking advantage of your freedoms . . .
This weekend, we in the US, as a nation, give thanks for our blessings. For me, this NewsGroup is one of the blessings I’ll be giving thanks for. While many ngs seem to flounder for want of interest, this ng just keeps rolling on. You are the most interesting, most intelligent, most articulate, group of people I’ve ever had the privilage of interacting with, and I just wanted to say, "THANK YOU!" With much love, Glenn (Leicaddict) Travis
god bless turkeys!
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Where else do you get great greens, two 18’s, no waiting, tee times anytime you call, $15 walking weekdays or *unlimited* yearly golf for $630 (including weekends). It also has a driving range, is only 11 miles from my house and I got my first Ace there last year. Please don’t tell anyone about HG – we like it just the way it is.
No, don’t get me wrong, I play there… I learned to play on that course, I was on a junior league there… Just that course is right in the middle of Dunham Hills and the Magestic. It is not hard to find a two for one pass at Dunham, that is a course that some one that is not from the area should expirience. Nothing to do about the Magestic’s prices, but it is one hell of a course… almost a better choice than Timber Trace.
David, To put things in perspective. At Timber Trace, I played from the Whites and Bruce played from the Golds – two tees back. That was great fun and evened things out a bit. I think that that can be a better handicap than strokes. It didn’t put as much pressure on me to knock a long one and kept my ball in better position. Regarding Bruce, someday he will be at an RSG event and will bring his game. Besides being great fun to play with he also gave me a couple of mini lessons on chipping. I have since taken that to the course and have saved a minimum of two a side. It sure is neat when you have someone that knows what they are doing explain and take the time to show you what to do. Anyhow, thanks again Bruce. New strategy – Bruce is a hack. In order to bet me you will have to give him 4 a side at any RSG event – even money. Retirement may be closer than I think. Don – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry David, But, they would catch on sooner or later about collecting in US and paying in CDN. Well, hopefully it would be much later – like after I am out of the parking lot!!! One more thing about Bruce – how about his focus? Man he can do what he wants when he wants. There is no doubt that with the pressure on that others wouldn’t stand a chance. He knows the shots he needs to play – he will be the first to say that some of them need a bit of practise, though. But if he did practise and started playing on a regular basis, I’d be looking for 4** strokes a side. **( Note how the bargaining for strokes has started high – I’ll get to the arthristis/bad back ploy later in negotiations!)
Hey..you received a personal invitation yesterday to the RSG-DFW bash. We really would like for you to rethink your situation and try to get away….air fares are getting cheaper by the day, and the Sunday timetable gets you off the course by 3:00, guaranteed. DFW International is less than 30 minutes away from Tour 18.. Do I have to bet you, like I did Annika, just to get you down here?
Sorry, Bobby, but I would love to. It’s a long way and the timing isn’t good though. Maybe another year. Bruce http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/newmanb.htm http://go.to/bruce_newman
Sorry David, But, they would catch on sooner or later about collecting in US and paying in CDN.
Well, hopefully it would be much later – like after I am out of the parking lot!!! One more thing about Bruce – how about his focus? Man he can do what he wants when he wants. There is no doubt that with the pressure on that others wouldn’t stand a chance.
He knows the shots he needs to play – he will be the first to say that some of them need a bit of practise, though. But if he did practise and started playing on a regular basis, I’d be looking for 4** strokes a side. **( Note how the bargaining for strokes has started high – I’ll get to the arthristis/bad back ploy later in negotiations!) — David RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm email: dsneddon AT attcanada DOT ca
Please, guys, I’m getting embarrassed! I don’t pretend to be any more than a just weekend hack and I think you are overstating my abilities just a tad. I did have a good one today though. I’d love to get to an RSG event sometime, just to put faces with all these familiar names. Bruce
Hey..you received a personal invitation yesterday to the RSG-DFW bash. We really would like for you to rethink your situation and try to get away….air fares are getting cheaper by the day, and the Sunday timetable gets you off the course by 3:00, guaranteed. DFW International is less than 30 minutes away from Tour 18.. Do I have to bet you, like I did Annika, just to get you down here? ___, o | / .
See, it is good to get out of the house from time to time. : ) Cool Story. T
Yeah, that was neat…. You never know who you’ll bump into. Speaking of golf and guitar related news, did you know Vince Gill is a wicked golfer? He’s turned down numerous offers from the PGA to join the tour, as he already has a million dollar career as a great singer/guitarist. Word has it that he’s THAT good – he beats the sh** out of the pros on the tour when they get together privately and play a round of golf. My .02 cents. Butch My web page: http://members.aol.com/ammonc/butch.html
I have played two rounds of golf with Larry Corryell… This doesn’t seem to impress too many people though. I will furnish details if prompted. Mark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished playing a round of golf with a buddy, who told me this story: A few days ago, he went to a public golf course here in Kansas City to play a round by himself. (Note to those who don’t play – To speed up play, the course starter will usually make a single player play with another group, or another single player.) So the starter says to my buddy, "We have another single player, do you mind playing as a twosome?" You can’t really say no, so they end up playing together. After a couple holes, my buddy asks the guy what he does for a living. The guy says, in an English accent, "I’m a drummer in a rock band." My buddy dismissed this at first, thinking the guy was full of it. So after a couple more holes, my buddy asks the what the name of the band is, and the guy says, "Bad Company"! The guy turned out to be Simon Kirke! My buddy and his girl ended up taking him out to dinner, and then going to the concert that night with two free backstage passes! And the bum didn’t even call me!?! Oh well, it appears that Simon Kirke likes to keep a low profile. But he did say they exchanged personal phone #’s and Simon said to call him if they ever get to his hometown, and Simon would buy my buddy a round of golf and dinner! Jerry P.S. My buddy shot a round of 84, Simon said his score was one off from that, but he wouldn’t say which way! (My buddy said probably 83.)
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished playing a round of golf with a buddy, who told me this story: A few days ago, he went to a public golf course here in Kansas City to play a round by himself. (Note to those who don’t play – To speed up play, the course starter will usually make a single player play with another group, or another single player.) So the starter says to my buddy, "We have another single player, do you mind playing as a twosome?" You can’t really say no, so they end up playing together. After a couple holes, my buddy asks the guy what he does for a living. The guy says, in an English accent, "I’m a drummer in a rock band." My buddy dismissed this at first, thinking the guy was full of it. So after a couple more holes, my buddy asks the what the name of the band is, and the guy says, "Bad Company"! The guy turned out to be Simon Kirke! My buddy and his girl ended up taking him out to dinner, and then going to the concert that night with two free backstage passes! And the bum didn’t even call me!?! Oh well, it appears that Simon Kirke likes to keep a low profile. But he did say they exchanged personal phone #’s and Simon said to call him if they ever get to his hometown, and Simon would buy my buddy a round of golf and dinner! Jerry P.S. My buddy shot a round of 84, Simon said his score was one off from that, but he wouldn’t say which way! (My buddy said probably 83.)
Cool story Jerry… What’s this have to do with Jarl? <g Outt.. Jeff.
Very cool story! Reminds me of the story when my boyfriend ran into Carlos Cavaso in Target.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished playing a round of golf with a buddy, who told me this story: A few days ago, he went to a public golf course here in Kansas City to play a round by himself. (Note to those who don’t play – To speed up play, the course starter will usually make a single player play with another group, or another single player.) So the starter says to my buddy, "We have another single player, do you mind playing as a twosome?" You can’t really say no, so they end up playing together. After a couple holes, my buddy asks the guy what he does for a living. The guy says, in an English accent, "I’m a drummer in a rock band." My buddy dismissed this at first, thinking the guy was full of it. So after a couple more holes, my buddy asks the what the name of the band is, and the guy says, "Bad Company"! The guy turned out to be Simon Kirke! My buddy and his girl ended up taking him out to dinner, and then going to the concert that night with two free backstage passes! And the bum didn’t even call me!?! Oh well, it appears that Simon Kirke likes to keep a low profile. But he did say they exchanged personal phone #’s and Simon said to call him if they ever get to his hometown, and Simon would buy my buddy a round of golf and dinner! Jerry P.S. My buddy shot a round of 84, Simon said his score was one off from that, but he wouldn’t say which way! (My buddy said probably 83.)
See, it is good to get out of the house from time to time. : ) Cool Story. T – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just finished playing a round of golf with a buddy, who told me this story: A few days ago, he went to a public golf course here in Kansas City to play a round by himself. (Note to those who don’t play – To speed up play, the course starter will usually make a single player play with another group, or another single player.) So the starter says to my buddy, "We have another single player, do you mind playing as a twosome?" You can’t really say no, so they end up playing together. After a couple holes, my buddy asks the guy what he does for a living. The guy says, in an English accent, "I’m a drummer in a rock band." My buddy dismissed this at first, thinking the guy was full of it. So after a couple more holes, my buddy asks the what the name of the band is, and the guy says, "Bad Company"! The guy turned out to be Simon Kirke! My buddy and his girl ended up taking him out to dinner, and then going to the concert that night with two free backstage passes! And the bum didn’t even call me!?! Oh well, it appears that Simon Kirke likes to keep a low profile. But he did say they exchanged personal phone #’s and Simon said to call him if they ever get to his hometown, and Simon would buy my buddy a round of golf and dinner! Jerry P.S. My buddy shot a round of 84, Simon said his score was one off from that, but he wouldn’t say which way! (My buddy said probably 83.)
I just finished playing a round of golf with a buddy, who told me this story: A few days ago, he went to a public golf course here in Kansas City to play a round by himself. (Note to those who don’t play – To speed up play, the course starter will usually make a single player play with another group, or another single player.) So the starter says to my buddy, "We have another single player, do you mind playing as a twosome?" You can’t really say no, so they end up playing together. After a couple holes, my buddy asks the guy what he does for a living. The guy says, in an English accent, "I’m a drummer in a rock band." My buddy dismissed this at first, thinking the guy was full of it. So after a couple more holes, my buddy asks the what the name of the band is, and the guy says, "Bad Company"! The guy turned out to be Simon Kirke! My buddy and his girl ended up taking him out to dinner, and then going to the concert that night with two free backstage passes! And the bum didn’t even call me!?! Oh well, it appears that Simon Kirke likes to keep a low profile. But he did say they exchanged personal phone #’s and Simon said to call him if they ever get to his hometown, and Simon would buy my buddy a round of golf and dinner! Jerry P.S. My buddy shot a round of 84, Simon said his score was one off from that, but he wouldn’t say which way! (My buddy said probably 83.)
Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
It depends on whether or not the Annual Greens Fee Players have an organized association. If so, that association might let the course know that it is in peril of losing the guaranteed monies generated by their group. The problem is; they might welcome it. For those who only play on the weekend mornings, it might be wise to just drop out of the annual fee…there’s no benefit. Bummer!
If they put that rule in place after you paid, then I think it stinks. If you knew about the rule when you bought your membership, then it is what it is. At my club, I expect to have to work around greens-fees players. It’s a semi-private club. Those greens fees bring in a huge chunk of change each year, in the absence of which my membership costs would be much higher. It’s six of one, half-a-dozen of another. Mike Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
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Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
If I were you, if possible, I would find a course that gears itself towards membership play. It seems you’ve already paid this year’s dues, so this year is toast, but I would look for another course. My course opened up as public, but has always worked towards eventually going private, and has never advertised for public greens fee play, it has always emphasized memberships. The whole orientation of the operation is for the members(7 day advance tee times vs 3 days for public, morning weekend tee times, etc.). They want revenue from greens fee players? Unless there are only twenty of you who bought memberships, what would they say if all those memberships walked away? Quite frankly, I would be telling them to go gung-ho after the geens fee players because no one you ever get a chance to talk to will ever buy a membership at that course. Let’s see how much revenue comes in when they can *only* get revenue from greens fees. I’d seriously consider finding another club. You might pay a little bit more, but you wouldn’t have to deal with something like this. This sounds like utter crap to me. I hope you didn’t pay an initiation fee to this place. If you did I would raise some holy hell and not stop. If you paid an initation fee and they turn around and give Joe on the street the prime times, this course is looking for a battle with its best customers. Sounds to me like this course’s business sense is a little off, or else like I said, there’s only 20 memberships sold to begin with.
We have a similar problem at our course. Because of mismanagement, the club has decided to decrease the members tee times to increase revenue. Not only that, members can only schedule a tee time a week in advance, a non-member can schedule anytime and the club will even put non-members in the reserved members times. We’re hoping that when the club gets solidly on it’s feet again, this will change. So, the only thing I can tell is that it does suck and it happens at other courses. But then again, I do have "the privilege" of eating in the club house and having to pay a $40 a month chit….. :-( Bryan — Bryan Berguson RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/bergusonb.htm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
Let me guess. Sugar Springs in Gladwin.
They have it backwards! Any respectable course should give priority to its paid up members.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
Your best bet is to gather together other "members" and complain, en masse, to the management. It’s (IMO) unreasonable to inconvenience those who have paid a large sum up front. If they don’t relent (and there’s no reason why they *have* to), vote with your feet and join another club. En masse. Doug — ___, IBM Microelectronics Division, Burlington, Vermont o ASICs Product Development Engineering | | Phone: (802)769-7095 t/l: 446-7095 fax: x6752 | . Doug’s Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/~masseyd (|)
Looking for you opinion! The public golf course here in Northern Michigan made a new rule, which directly affects us "Annual Greens Fee Players (yearly membership players)". The new rule states that if you are an Annual Greens Fee Player, you can not reserve a Tee Time between the hours of 8 AM and 12 Noon on a weekend..!! The reasoning is to open up tee time slots for Green Fee players, to generate cash revenue. I am interested on your thoughts and if you know of any other course that has adopted this rule.
This is common. I’d say that 9 out of 10 courses that I’ve played that have both private memberships and public access have this rule. I will say that for the course to change the policy after accepting your fees is bad business. The simple truth is that for these type of courses the greens fee paying customers provide a lot more cash than the "quasi-members". -gk-
You would think. If you like playing weekend mornings, find another club. If you don’t, it shouldn’t matter to you. Personally, I try to avoid high traffic times, I’m just not into playing 5 hour rounds. I think I played one round (except RSG Hershey) on a weekend last year. Now if I could only get rid of that day job. — Jon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They have it backwards! Any respectable course should give priority to its paid up members.
The course is in Kincheloe, MI, Kincheloe Memorial Golf Course. It’s thirty miles north of the Mackinaw Bridge on I-75. Just 20 mile south of Soo Michigan. I have mixed views on the subject. My point is that yes, they did lose about 50 out of a maximum of 400 Annual Green fee members due to this No Tee Time in the AM on a Weekend.. Face it, for allot of players, that’s the only time they can get out! They figure, that there were too many members that take the best timeof the day and not getting the cash revenue. But, after one year of this, they claim they made an additional 20 thou. due to the rule..But I tell you what, walk in the parking lot at 10 am. and there is no one there! I think someone is fudging the books! to justify the rule…!!! I live two blocks from the course and drive my cart from home. I don’t worry about how much I play in a week, month or a year, I get my money’s worth… compared to other courses in the state, $425 a year with a cart isn’t much! But once they start this crap…it never seems to end..! It’s a nice public course(7100 yards), and even though the rule, I would encourage all to come and enjoy it with me.. thanks or you views…. Positive swing thoughts to all….
The course is in Kincheloe, MI, Kincheloe Memorial Golf Course. It’s thirty miles north of the Mackinaw Bridge on I-75. Just 20 mile south of Soo Michigan. I have mixed views on the subject. My point is that yes, they did lose about 50 out of a maximum of 400 Annual Green fee members due to this No Tee Time in the AM on a Weekend.. Face it, for allot of players, that’s the only time they can get out! They figure, that there were too many members that take the best timeof the day and not getting the cash revenue. But, after one year of this, they claim they made an additional 20 thou. due to the rule..But I tell you what, walk in the parking lot at 10 am. and there is no one there! I think someone is fudging the books! to justify the rule…!!!
<clip Then show up at 9:30 with your group. Its one thing not to be able to make a reservation…but surely you can play if there’s an opening. "Someone likes every shot" bk Please: no spam, off topic, or crossposts as explained in the RSG FAQ: at http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html
I guess I just don’t get the concern. $425 greens fee and cart. That means the club takes in $170K plus the 20 K. You guys are going broke! Michigan has a season from May to October, 6 months. If you play twice a week your cost is something like $17 a round. Sounds like a real bargain to me. BTW, you never said what the weekend tee time rates were. Either this is one goat track or it won’t be around for long. With this revenue stream I don’t see how they can maintain the course. Maybe they need to up the Annual rates for those who want an early morning weekend time. My club has a weekday membership and a "full" membership, with substantially higher fees for full play. The retired folks can play golf until they fall down, at a reasonable rate, and those who work and need weekend access can get it. Enjoy it while you can. Joe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The course is in Kincheloe, MI, Kincheloe Memorial Golf Course. It’s thirty miles north of the Mackinaw Bridge on I-75. Just 20 mile south of Soo Michigan. I have mixed views on the subject. My point is that yes, they did lose about 50 out of a maximum of 400 Annual Green fee members due to this No Tee Time in the AM on a Weekend.. Face it, for allot of players, that’s the only time they can get out! They figure, that there were too many members that take the best timeof the day and not getting the cash revenue. But, after one year of this, they claim they made an additional 20 thou. due to the rule..But I tell you what, walk in the parking lot at 10 am. and there is no one there! I think someone is fudging the books! to justify the rule…!!! I live two blocks from the course and drive my cart from home. I don’t worry about how much I play in a week, month or a year, I get my money’s worth… compared to other courses in the state, $425 a year with a cart isn’t much! But once they start this crap…it never seems to end..! It’s a nice public course(7100 yards), and even though the rule, I would encourage all to come and enjoy it with me.. thanks or you views…. Positive swing thoughts to all….
Nathan, I forgot to mention that you are right in that the parking lot is probably empty on weekend mornings. If all they made was 20 grand, they aren’t getting much extra play. They have roughly 6000 tee times available on the weekends over the season. Assume just threes players per time slot, they can start 18K rounds. They obviously only managed to start 500 – 600 people. Joe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The course is in Kincheloe, MI, Kincheloe Memorial Golf Course. It’s thirty miles north of the Mackinaw Bridge on I-75. Just 20 mile south of Soo Michigan. I have mixed views on the subject. My point is that yes, they did lose about 50 out of a maximum of 400 Annual Green fee members due to this No Tee Time in the AM on a Weekend.. Face it, for allot of players, that’s the only time they can get out! They figure, that there were too many members that take the best timeof the day and not getting the cash revenue. But, after one year of this, they claim they made an additional 20 thou. due to the rule..But I tell you what, walk in the parking lot at 10 am. and there is no one there! I think someone is fudging the books! to justify the rule…!!! I live two blocks from the course and drive my cart from home. I don’t worry about how much I play in a week, month or a year, I get my money’s worth… compared to other courses in the state, $425 a year with a cart isn’t much! But once they start this crap…it never seems to end..! It’s a nice public course(7100 yards), and even though the rule, I would encourage all to come and enjoy it with me.. thanks or you views…. Positive swing thoughts to all….
How do you get 6000 weekend tee times? At 8 groups per hour, 6000 tee times is 14 hours a day over six months – 8 X 14 X 2 X 26 = 5824. At 32 players per hour, 500 people take almost 16 hours.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nathan, I forgot to mention that you are right in that the parking lot is probably empty on weekend mornings. If all they made was 20 grand, they aren’t getting much extra play. They have roughly 6000 tee times available on the weekends over the season. Assume just threes players per time slot, they can start 18K rounds. They obviously only managed to start 500 – 600 people. Joe
Tom, Tee time slots vs starts. I probably should have used the phrase "starts" referring to individual players. My calculation was 8 hours per weekend, 25 weekends, 60 minute hours, 8 min starts and 4 players. thus (8 hours x 60 minutes x 25 weekends) = 12,000 minutes 12,000 minutes / 8 minute starts = 1500 tee times 1500 tee times x 4 players = 6000 starts. This is best case potential. Regarding the 500 – 600 That was for the season. Consider: $20,000 divided by say $35 per head per start = 571 people. Depending on what they actually charge and considering where it is, the price will probably be between $25 and $40, the count will vary. Joe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How do you get 6000 weekend tee times? At 8 groups per hour, 6000 tee times is 14 hours a day over six months – 8 X 14 X 2 X 26 = 5824. At 32 players per hour, 500 people take almost 16 hours. Nathan, I forgot to mention that you are right in that the parking lot is probably empty on weekend mornings. If all they made was 20 grand, they aren’t getting much extra play. They have roughly 6000 tee times available on the weekends over the season. Assume just threes players per time slot, they can start 18K rounds. They obviously only managed to start 500 – 600 people. Joe
One day weekends? Somebody once told me about a new golf course that offered really cheap play to attract players. Everybody wanted to play there but the place went in the dumper really quickly as they didn’t do the math when they built the parking lots. At a minimum, the parking lots need to handle about six hours of tee times.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My calculation was 8 hours per weekend, 25 weekends, 60 minute hours, 8 min starts and 4 players. thus (8 hours x 60 minutes x 25 weekends) = 12,000 minutes 12,000 minutes / 8 minute starts = 1500 tee times 1500 tee times x 4 players = 6000 starts. This is best case potential.
Tom, The original scenario was limited play for members between 8 am and Noon Saturday and Sunday. That’s 8 hours per weekend. Joe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One day weekends? Somebody once told me about a new golf course that offered really cheap play to attract players. Everybody wanted to play there but the place went in the dumper really quickly as they didn’t do the math when they built the parking lots. At a minimum, the parking lots need to handle about six hours of tee times. My calculation was 8 hours per weekend, 25 weekends, 60 minute hours, 8 min starts and 4 players. thus (8 hours x 60 minutes x 25 weekends) = 12,000 minutes 12,000 minutes / 8 minute starts = 1500 tee times 1500 tee times x 4 players = 6000 starts. This is best case potential.
Try Public Golf Handicap (www.publicgolfhandicap) They have been up non stop since 1996 Tim Howard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sure that I’m not the only one that uses nethandicap.com to keep track of my handicap. Does anyone know what has happened with it? I haven’t been able to access it for at least a week and my emails to the webmaster keep getting bounced back to me. It is, by far, the best online handicap tracking system that I’ve found and I’d like to continue using it. Thanks. Paul. — "Only the wise possess ideas; the greater part of mankind are possessed by them." Samuel Taylor Coleridge http://members.home.net/pauldearborn ICQ – 2019413
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I tried again today and it looks like it’s back… but I didn’t notice any significant changes or any explanation as to why it was out of commission for so long… Paul.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I just went and tried again and found the following message: We apologize for the inconvenience, our site is currently under construction… Please visit us again in 2 days… Maybe it lives?!?! Paul. After a week of not being unable to get in, I assumed they went the route of many of the other dot bomb failures. I’m sure that I’m not the only one that uses nethandicap.com to keep track of my handicap. Does anyone know what has happened with it? I haven’t been able to access it for at least a week and my emails to the webmaster keep getting bounced back to me. It is, by far, the best online handicap tracking system that I’ve found and I’d like to continue using it. Thanks. Paul. — "Only the wise possess ideas; the greater part of mankind are possessed by them." Samuel Taylor Coleridge http://members.home.net/pauldearborn ICQ – 2019413
Hmmm…..I went there this morning and it was up. Now it is down again. Tim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I just went and tried again and found the following message: We apologize for the inconvenience, our site is currently under construction… Please visit us again in 2 days… Maybe it lives?!?! Paul. After a week of not being unable to get in, I assumed they went the route of many of the other dot bomb failures. I’m sure that I’m not the only one that uses nethandicap.com to keep track of my handicap. Does anyone know what has happened with it? I haven’t been able to access it for at least a week and my emails to the webmaster keep getting bounced back to me. It is, by far, the best online handicap tracking system that I’ve found and I’d like to continue using it. Thanks. Paul. — "Only the wise possess ideas; the greater part of mankind are possessed by them." Samuel Taylor Coleridge http://members.home.net/pauldearborn ICQ – 2019413
Well, I just went and tried again and found the following message: We apologize for the inconvenience, our site is currently under construction… Please visit us again in 2 days… Maybe it lives?!?! Paul.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After a week of not being unable to get in, I assumed they went the route of many of the other dot bomb failures. I’m sure that I’m not the only one that uses nethandicap.com to keep track of my handicap. Does anyone know what has happened with it? I haven’t been able to access it for at least a week and my emails to the webmaster keep getting bounced back to me. It is, by far, the best online handicap tracking system that I’ve found and I’d like to continue using it. Thanks. Paul. — "Only the wise possess ideas; the greater part of mankind are possessed by them." Samuel Taylor Coleridge http://members.home.net/pauldearborn ICQ – 2019413
This happend last weekend as well. I was able to get in on Monday. I could not again yesterday. I haven’t found anything comparable on the Web. Drag. Tim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After a week of not being unable to get in, I assumed they went the route of many of the other dot bomb failures. I’m sure that I’m not the only one that uses nethandicap.com to keep track of my handicap. Does anyone know what has happened with it? I haven’t been able to access it for at least a week and my emails to the webmaster keep getting bounced back to me. It is, by far, the best online handicap tracking system that I’ve found and I’d like to continue using it. Thanks. Paul. — "Only the wise possess ideas; the greater part of mankind are possessed by them." Samuel Taylor Coleridge http://members.home.net/pauldearborn ICQ – 2019413
After a week of not being unable to get in, I assumed they went the route of many of the other dot bomb failures.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sure that I’m not the only one that uses nethandicap.com to keep track of my handicap. Does anyone know what has happened with it? I haven’t been able to access it for at least a week and my emails to the webmaster keep getting bounced back to me. It is, by far, the best online handicap tracking system that I’ve found and I’d like to continue using it. Thanks. Paul. — "Only the wise possess ideas; the greater part of mankind are possessed by them." Samuel Taylor Coleridge http://members.home.net/pauldearborn ICQ – 2019413
I’m sure that I’m not the only one that uses nethandicap.com to keep track of my handicap. Does anyone know what has happened with it? I haven’t been able to access it for at least a week and my emails to the webmaster keep getting bounced back to me. It is, by far, the best online handicap tracking system that I’ve found and I’d like to continue using it. Thanks. Paul. — "Only the wise possess ideas; the greater part of mankind are possessed by them." Samuel Taylor Coleridge http://members.home.net/pauldearborn ICQ – 2019413
Take a look at myscorecard.com Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry, I know that there was a thread asking this recently but I only saw my post and one other in response. Nethandicap has been down two weekends in a row. Not a good sign. Could you all recommend a few others. TIA. Tim
Try www.golfserv.com
Sorry, I know that there was a thread asking this recently but I only saw my post and one other in response. Nethandicap has been down two weekends in a row. Not a good sign. Could you all recommend a few others. TIA. Tim
Tim; Try Public Golf Handicap (www.publicgolfhandicap.com) They have been around since 1996 and not only offer a handicap, but full stats on your game. They also have a full time PGA teaching pro to answer your golf questions one-on-one. It’s like having a private tutor. Tim Howard www.PublicGolfHandicap.com The alternative to the USGA
www.freegolfinfo.com was recommended to me and I went with that one. Enjoy! RD
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry, I know that there was a thread asking this recently but I only saw my post and one other in response. Nethandicap has been down two weekends in a row. Not a good sign. Could you all recommend a few others. TIA. Tim
Sorry, I know that there was a thread asking this recently but I only saw my post and one other in response. Nethandicap has been down two weekends in a row. Not a good sign. Could you all recommend a few others. TIA. Tim
I’m looking for a good web-based golf handicap service. I’ve found a few, but before I commit, I’d like some opinions on others that are out there that I haven’t found. Thanks. RD
I started using nethandicap. It’s okay. I’d like to see a few more stat fields, but it has a good interface. Tim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking for a good web-based golf handicap service. I’ve found a few, but before I commit, I’d like some opinions on others that are out there that I haven’t found. Thanks. RD
I’m looking for a good web-based golf handicap service. I’ve found a few, but before I commit, I’d like some opinions on others that are out there that I haven’t found. Thanks.
I’ve been pleased with the free service at http://www.freegolfinfo.com/gametrack/ . — Eliyahu Rooff www.geocities.com/Area51/Underworld/8096/HomePage.htm RSG Rollcall http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/rooffe.htm
Golfserv is very good. Computes handicap using USGA rules. Also has good tips and course info sections.
I’m looking for a good web-based golf handicap service. I’ve found a few, but before I commit, I’d like some opinions on others that are out there that I haven’t found. Thanks. RD
Try Public Golf Handicap (www.publicgolfhandicap.com) They have been around since 1996 and offer not only a handicap, but full stats on your game. They employ a PGA teaching pro to answer member questions, so it is like having a private golf tutor. Tim Howard www.PublicGolfHandicap.com The alternative to the USGA
I’m looking for a good web-based golf handicap service. I’ve found a few, but before I commit, I’d like some opinions on others that are out there that I haven’t found. Thanks.
Yahoo offers a free online handicap service. A nice way to track your scores over time, even though this will not function as an "official" handicap. http://golf.sports.yahoo.com/tracker Bill in Clearwater
I would recommend Yankee Run or Fowler’s Mills. You might also try here. http://www.centralohiogolf.com/index.html Take a look at this http://www.sugarcreekgolf.com/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll be driving from Toledo to Columbus, passing by Findlay and Marion. Can someone recommend a real good public course near that route? Thanks, appreciate your help. Before you buy. — John Pflum, Jr. PKG Consultants, Inc. 5533 Fair Lane Cincinnati, Ohio 45227 513/272-5533 Web: http://www.pkgconsult.com
I’ll be driving from Toledo to Columbus, passing by Findlay and Marion. Can someone recommend a real good public course near that route? Thanks, appreciate your help. Before you buy.
I’ll be driving from Toledo to Columbus, via Findlay and Marion. Does anyone know of a really good public golf course enroute that I should play? Don’t care about cost. Thanks for your help. Before you buy.
Take a look at this http://www.sugarcreekgolf.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll be driving from Toledo to Columbus, passing by Findlay and Marion. Can someone recommend a real good public course near that route? Thanks, appreciate your help. Before you buy.
You might also try here. http://www.centralohiogolf.com/index.html Take a look at this http://www.sugarcreekgolf.com/ I’ll be driving from Toledo to Columbus, passing by Findlay and Marion. Can someone recommend a real good public course near that route? Thanks, appreciate your help. Before you buy.
– John Pflum, Jr. PKG Consultants, Inc. 5533 Fair Lane Cincinnati, Ohio 45227 513/272-5533 Web: http://www.pkgconsult.com