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Did you see Tiger Woods looking for his opponents ball?
What sportsmanship, something the Euros DID NOT display ALL week….
By and large all professional golfers help one another search for lost balls if they aren’t otherwise occupied. Certainly it was sporting of Tiger to help out, but that is "par for the course." I didn’t have any particular problems with the way that any of the players conducted themselves. I wish the incident on the 17th hadn’t occurred, but aside from that I thought that everyone was enjoyable to watch. My only gripe was the horrible pace of play. (I’m sure the network wasn’t all that fond of it either, especially on Friday.) -joseph
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did you see Tiger Woods looking for his opponents ball? What sportsmanship, something the Euros DID NOT display ALL week…. By and large all professional golfers help one another search for lost balls if they aren’t otherwise occupied. Certainly it was sporting of Tiger to help out, but that is "par for the course." I didn’t have any particular problems with the way that any of the players conducted themselves. I wish the incident on the 17th hadn’t occurred, but aside from that I thought that everyone was enjoyable to watch. My only gripe was the horrible pace of play. (I’m sure the network wasn’t all that fond of it either, especially on Friday.)
I would imagine they were quite happy about it on Sunday seeing as the contest finished early. Stan — Stan The Man +++Naked Under This Macintosh+++ If replying, DELETE X
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What was up with this? Did anyone listen to the press conference when they implied this was caused by the fans. I didn’t hear NBC discuss this angle, so it was a big suprise. Any thoughts? Nofear23
As far as I can tell, it was believed his ball went into the trees when in fact it plugged deep in the rough not far from the fairway. It was found a half minute or so after the time for search had expired. With fans being of all persuasions I seriously doubt that there was any skulduggery going on. With all the spectators I’m a little surprised that someone didn’t see the ball go where it did, but then again that might have been a location where the ropes were pretty far back. He wouldn’t have been entitled to lift the ball as far as I know, and Tiger had a perfect lie in the middle of the fairway, so I don’t think it really mattered much in the outcome of the hole. Coltart said as much in the press conference. But obviously everyone wishes the ball had been found. -joseph
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With all the spectators I’m a little surprised that someone didn’t see the ball go where it did, but then again that might have been a location where the ropes were pretty far back.
Did you see on Friday when Duval and Tiger were teamed up and on the same hole they both hit their balls into the very thick grass at the edge of the same bunker and it took several minutes for both of their balls to be located? This was in a greenside bunker and in front of thousands of fans and still the balls were very difficult to locate. Sometimes it is simply not visible from above and can’t be found no matter how many people are watching. Dick Schneiders
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Did you see Tiger Woods looking for his opponents ball? What sportsmanship, something the Euros DID NOT display ALL week….
Are you saying that none of the European team bothered to look for an opponents ball when they were in trouble? The only occasion I can think of when any US players lost a ball was when both Woods and Duval got into some very thick rough in the edge of a bunker – at that point there were more Europeans than Americans searching for them (Sam Torrance came over to help)! I didn’t watch Saturday’s proceedings, but if you know of an example when any unsportsmanlike actions occurred then please point them out. Hugh
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Judging by Sam Torrance’s pathetic statements after the match, he was probably hoping to find Woods’ Titleist first so he could pocket the thing so it could be declared a lost ball. 
Patrick
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did you see Tiger Woods looking for his opponents ball? What sportsmanship, something the Euros DID NOT display ALL week…. Are you saying that none of the European team bothered to look for an opponents ball when they were in trouble? The only occasion I can think of when any US players lost a ball was when both Woods and Duval got into some very thick rough in the edge of a bunker – at that point there were more Europeans than Americans searching for them (Sam Torrance came over to help)! I didn’t watch Saturday’s proceedings, but if you know of an example when any unsportsmanlike actions occurred then please point them out. Hugh
Nope… just acknowledging Tiger’s sportmanship which no European has given him…
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With all the spectators I’m a little surprised that someone didn’t see the ball go where it did, but then again that might have been a location where the ropes were pretty far back.
I didn’t go to Brookline last week, but I have played at The Country Club a couple of times. The left side of #9 (actually, the 11th hole on the normal TCC 18) is at the edge of The Country Club’s property (it borders the municpal Putterham Meadows course). It wouldn’t surprise me if no spectators were allowed on that side of the fairway. I don’t remember seeing any when the search was going on. I don’t know how easy it would be to see the ball’s final location from the opposite side of the fairway. It’s quite possible nobody saw exactly where it landed. Chris
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I suppose it’s also possible there were only a couple of US fans there who incorrectly or perhaps purposely directed Coltart to search in the trees. Honestly, I don’t know, but given the huge number of fans on the course, and also given that it was Tiger’s match, I have trouble believing the circumstances that would allow someone to purposely deceive the searchers would exist. -joseph – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – With all the spectators I’m a little surprised that someone didn’t see the ball go where it did, but then again that might have been a location where the ropes were pretty far back. I didn’t go to Brookline last week, but I have played at The Country Club a couple of times. The left side of #9 (actually, the 11th hole on the normal TCC 18) is at the edge of The Country Club’s property (it borders the municpal Putterham Meadows course). It wouldn’t surprise me if no spectators were allowed on that side of the fairway. I don’t remember seeing any when the search was going on. I don’t know how easy it would be to see the ball’s final location from the opposite side of the fairway. It’s quite possible nobody saw exactly where it landed.
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With all the spectators I’m a little surprised that someone didn’t see the ball go where it did, but then again that might have been a location where the ropes were pretty far back. I didn’t go to Brookline last week, but I have played at The Country Club a couple of times. The left side of #9 (actually, the 11th hole on the normal TCC 18) is at the edge of The Country Club’s property (it borders the municpal Putterham Meadows course). It wouldn’t surprise me if no spectators were allowed on that side of the fairway. I don’t remember seeing any when the search was going on. I don’t know how easy it would be to see the ball’s final location from the opposite side of the fairway. It’s quite possible nobody saw exactly where it landed. It was reported in the British press this morning that the ball spotters directed Coltart some 30 yards away from where his ball landed, and after the five minutes were up were seen giving each other ‘high fives’, and then told him where his ball was. Of course, everything you read in the papers is always true. — Chris Melluish
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Of course, everything you read in the papers is always true.
Especially in the British tabloids. They have always been noted for being a paradigm of factual and spot on reporting. Dick Schneiders
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What!!! The British Press isn’t sincere?!?!?! You mean that space aliens aren’t running the EEU? Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Of course, everything you read in the papers is always true. Especially in the British tabloids. They have always been noted for being a paradigm of factual and spot on reporting. Dick Schneiders
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It was reported in the British press this morning that the ball spotters directed Coltart some 30 yards away from where his ball landed, and after the five minutes were up were seen giving each other ‘high fives’, and then told him where his ball was. Of course, everything you read in the papers is always true.
Considering the poor reportage that was published in none other than the Times, let alone the tabloids, I have to say I don’t think that the "truth is out there" in the British press at the moment. The American press is noted for its interest in criticizing its own (players), and I’m reasonably sure that if such a thing did occur, it will eventually surface in reports over here. -joseph
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – With all the spectators I’m a little surprised that someone didn’t see the ball go where it did, but then again that might have been a location where the ropes were pretty far back. I didn’t go to Brookline last week, but I have played at The Country Club a couple of times. The left side of #9 (actually, the 11th hole on the normal TCC 18) is at the edge of The Country Club’s property (it borders the municpal Putterham Meadows course). It wouldn’t surprise me if no spectators were allowed on that side of the fairway. I don’t remember seeing any when the search was going on. I don’t know how easy it would be to see the ball’s final location from the opposite side of the fairway. It’s quite possible nobody saw exactly where it landed. Chris
I think that fans did have access to that area. However, it would not be considered a ‘prime’ viewing area and I wouldn’t be surprised if there were few fans in the immediate area. There were enough European fans on the course for me to doubt that American fans could successfully misdirect the search. — –dph. (preferred email: dhayes AT iname DOT com) Before you buy.
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I think that fans did have access to that area. However, it would not be considered a ‘prime’ viewing area and I wouldn’t be surprised if there were few fans in the immediate area. There were enough European fans on the course for me to doubt that American fans could successfully misdirect the search.
Wasn’t it also blind from the tee? From my experience it’s one thing to spot a ball if you see it hit in your direction, but another entirely if it lands somewhere near you out of the blue or for that matter if you hit it and are not certain where it landed. Many times I’ve been looking 50 yards away from where the ball was actually found. These guys get spoilt, playing in front of 5,000 forecaddies! -joseph
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think that fans did have access to that area. However, it would not be considered a ‘prime’ viewing area and I wouldn’t be surprised if there were few fans in the immediate area. There were enough European fans on the course for me to doubt that American fans could successfully misdirect the search. Wasn’t it also blind from the tee? From my experience it’s one thing to spot a ball if you see it hit in your direction, but another entirely if it lands somewhere near you out of the blue or for that matter if you hit it and are not certain where it landed. Many times I’ve been looking 50 yards away from where the ball was actually found. These guys get spoilt, playing in front of 5,000 forecaddies! -joseph
I think it was blind. I didn’t spend much time on the 9th hole (and none on the left side of it). The pros do miss-out on the joy of making a double-bogey after that long walk back to the tee. I’d like 5000 forecaddies, gallery-flattened rough, and the occasional forehead-bounce back into the fairway. — –dph. (preferred email: dhayes AT iname DOT com) Before you buy.