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I was talking to a friend and said that shooting par is pretty hard, even pro golfers can do it all the time. So heres my question, IF someone can shoot a 72 everyday, actually if someone can ONLY shoot a 72, no more, no less…how would they do on the tour? Top 10? Would they be able to win some tournaments? Thanks
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So heres my question, IF someone can shoot a 72 everyday, actually if someone can ONLY shoot a 72, no more, no less…how would they do on the tour? Top 10? Would they be able to win some tournaments?
It is my understanding that if you simply play par golf on the US pro tour you will be earning more than $1m per year. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if this is wrong…..but I know you can earn a hell of a lot of money just playing par golf. cheers david
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I assume you mean score PAR rather than 72 literally. Looking at the PGA Tour stats page, Miguel Angel Jimenz has a scoring ave this year of 72.01 – that ranks him 147 on the tour. Currently ranked 121 on the money list with almost $220k US Last year – an ave of 72.01 was Garett Willis and that was only good enough for 164 place on the scoring list. However, he was ranked 77th on the money list with almost $685k and easily kept his card. There are many reasons for the big different in scoring rank and money list rank. Could have shot the lights out early on – then not made a cut for the last half of the season – shooting high 70s on Thrus and Fri etc……. The key is keeping your card I think – If you can go out and make par every week, and make the cut, it would appear you are pretty close to keeping your place on tour. Checking back to ‘92 – An ave of 72 was Mitch Adcock – ranked 172 on the scoring list. This only got him 166th on the money list with almost $59k. Wouldn’t have kept his card. Check out http://www.pgatour.com/stats/ for all the stats you can think of. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was talking to a friend and said that shooting par is pretty hard, even pro golfers can do it all the time. So heres my question, IF someone can shoot a 72 everyday, actually if someone can ONLY shoot a 72, no more, no less…how would they do on the tour? Top 10? Would they be able to win some tournaments? Thanks
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So heres my question, IF someone can shoot a 72 everyday, actually if someone can ONLY shoot a 72, no more, no less…how would they do on the tour? Top 10? Would they be able to win some tournaments? It is my understanding that if you simply play par golf on the US pro tour you will be earning more than $1m per year. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if this is wrong…..but I know you can earn a hell of a lot of money just playing par golf. cheers david
I wonder if stats are available as to whether you could ever MAKE the tour to begin with with a Q school or other performances OF par only. Seems to me without checking the numbers that a par in Q school would be pretty poor on the list, hence not make the top 37 or whatever number qualifies…. But this guess needs correction by the real numbers… George Hibbard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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I was talking to a friend and said that shooting par is pretty hard, even pro golfers can do it all the time. So heres my question, IF someone can shoot a 72 everyday, actually if someone can ONLY shoot a 72, no more, no less…how would they do on the tour? Top 10? Would they be able to win some tournaments?
If you could shoot 72 everyday, you probably would not last on the tour. Most times, par golf won’t make the cut. It is only at the majors and a few of the more difficult tracks on the tour where par, or higher will make the cut. Not cut–no money. Here in europe, they have the EPD Tour. It is a third level tour and par golf will not win you anything there, either. Typical winning scores for a three day tournament are better than 10 under par. Par golf will help you make the cut, but you win no money. Now, if you could play par golf at every US Open, then you are on to something 
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You’re welcome, David
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I was talking to a friend and said that shooting par is pretty hard, even pro golfers can do it all the time. So heres my question, IF someone can shoot a 72 everyday, actually if someone can ONLY shoot a 72, no more, no less…how would they do on the tour? Top 10? Would they be able to win some tournaments? Thanks
Well, according to the PGA scoring stats for 2002 located at http://www.pga.com/tour/stats/PGA.SCORING.html Harrison Frazer has a 72.01 average, which is 141st in scoring. He’s 85th on the money list, with a total of $348,000 (in 15 events, through the memorial tourney).
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so I assume you mean score PAR rather than 72 literally. Looking at the PGA Tour stats page, Miguel Angel Jimenz has a scoring ave this year of 72.01 – that ranks him 147 on the tour. Currently ranked 121 on the money list with almost $220k US Last year – an ave of 72.01 was Garett Willis and that was only good enough for 164 place on the scoring list. However, he was ranked 77th on the money list with almost $685k and easily kept his card.
Examples such as this don’t really answer his question. That is because if you shoot 62 for one tournament and 82 for the next tournament you will earn more than someone else who shot 72 for both tournaments.
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So heres my question, IF someone can shoot a 72 everyday, actually if someone can ONLY shoot a 72, no more, no less…how would they do on the tour? Top 10? Would they be able to win some tournaments?
A few tournaments on the USPGA Tour are par 70 or 71. So let’s take Mr. Incredibly Consistent, a golfer who enters every tournament and shoots *par every round*. Here’s what he would have earnt in normal tournaments so far in the 2002 schedule: Tournament Par Score Position Earnings Sony 70 280 T54 9,080 Bob Hope 72 288 MC Phoenix 71 284 66 8,320 Pebble ProAm 72 288 T39 13,421 Buick 72 288 T58 7,920 Nissan 71 284 T63 7,844 Tucson 72 288 MC Genuity 72 288 T41 14,878 Honda 72 288 MC Bay Hill 72 288 T31 21,733 Houston 72 288 T56 8,960 Bell South 72 288 T37 18,240 WorldCom 71 284 T58 8,840 Greensboro 72 288 T48 9,667 Compaq 72 288 T67 8,820 Byron Nelson 70 280 T39 16,240 Colonial 70 280 T28 29,240 Memorial 72 288 T56 10,125 Kemper 71 284 T42 11,583 Buick 71 284 T46 9,922 Total 214,833 Money list position: 123rd (just enough at present to keep full exemption) However if he also played the bigger or invitational tournaments he’d earn: Mercedes 72 288 T18 73,000 Players 72 288 T19 78,000 Masters 72 288 19 81,200 Total 447,033 Money list position: 73rd He would not have won any tournament, and he would have missed three cuts. Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
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Here’s what he would have earnt in normal tournaments so far in the 2002 schedule: …… Total 214,833 Money list position: 123rd (just enough at present to keep full exemption) … He would not have won any tournament, and he would have missed three cuts.
Wow, I’m surprised. I was too lazy to do that, but I remember an article some years ago where they did the same thing, and the par golfer came out to be a total loser. Interesting.
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They would probably make a pretty comfortable living on the majors alone. But someone that can only muster a 72 on a run of the mill course, isn’t likely to shoot even par in majors… especially on say a Beth Page Black US Open layout. But if we can accept the pretense that they will shoot even par every tourney including the majors, the results will be alot better in the majors than in the Massengil-Trojan Podunk Classic. dsc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was talking to a friend and said that shooting par is pretty hard, even pro golfers can do it all the time. So heres my question, IF someone can shoot a 72 everyday, actually if someone can ONLY shoot a 72, no more, no less…how would they do on the tour? Top 10? Would they be able to win some tournaments? Thanks