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Dynacraft has done better in the past two years, but there was a time when they were as big a copy house as the next guy. Golfsmith, while being number 1 in the component business, still has some clubs that are blatant knock offs. I have pretty much the same attitude about clubs as you do. However, if the courts aren’t going after the component houses for copyright infringement, then the copies are legal. Thanks for the list of what you’re playing, it sounds like you have a great bag going. Keep with it, and play a good round of golf for me. Chris S. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TaylorMade R580 8.5 Cleveland Quadpro 3W 15′ Maxfli Revolution Black 3-PW S300 Maxfli Australian 56 Cobra Trusty Rusty 53 and 61 Mizuno 0803 Putter (I’ve been testing out a friends set of King Cobra II OS Graphite Stiff hump shafts..and I can nail them straight and long [The shaft is just slightly less stiff than my S-300 and that flex fits me better .might be using those in November 
] I don’t disagree or dislike taking a design, changing it a little and making it your own (as long as you did it to ‘advance’ the design) I don’t like a company taking a design a changing it just enough to bypass copyright or patent laws and then making it look and sound like the original. I would play components, Mike D sent me a KZG 5i to test once and that was a nice club. I’ve contemplated some other Dynacraft or Golfsmith stuff I’m just curious what type of clubs that you play? Are they OEM or component. If component, what type/name are they? Chris S. I’m talking about the fact that these guys even name the clubs very close to the original names. and try to mimic the color schemes. That’s a pretty lowball tactic to try and get someone to buy your clubs Look like blatant knockoffs to me So what? You’re going to tell me that something like Golfsmith TC-01 aren’t Hogan knock offs, or John Jacobs aren’t Ping knock offs? JHH
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TaylorMade R580 8.5 Cleveland Quadpro 3W 15′ Maxfli Revolution Black 3-PW S300 Maxfli Australian 56 Cobra Trusty Rusty 53 and 61 Mizuno 0803 Putter (I’ve been testing out a friends set of King Cobra II OS Graphite Stiff hump shafts..and I can nail them straight and long [The shaft is just slightly less stiff than my S-300 and that flex fits me better .might be using those in November ] I don’t disagree or dislike taking a design, changing it a little and making it your own (as long as you did it to ‘advance’ the design) I don’t like a company taking a design a changing it just enough to bypass copyright or patent laws and then making it look and sound like the original. I would play components, Mike D sent me a KZG 5i to test once and that was a nice club. I’ve contemplated some other Dynacraft or Golfsmith stuff
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m just curious what type of clubs that you play? Are they OEM or component. If component, what type/name are they? Chris S. I’m talking about the fact that these guys even name the clubs very close to the original names. and try to mimic the color schemes. That’s a pretty lowball tactic to try and get someone to buy your clubs Look like blatant knockoffs to me So what? You’re going to tell me that something like Golfsmith TC-01 aren’t Hogan knock offs, or John Jacobs aren’t Ping knock offs? JHH
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That’s a pretty lowball tactic to try and get someone to buy your clubs
Its called a "clone" club. he objective of a clone is to make it as close as possible to the original model being copied. Without such naming, the buyer would not have any idea what the clubs may actually look like. I have a set of 858s , like the 855s. They are wonderful and I would trade them for a set of the real thing. If you think naming a generic product similar to the brand name is a shady practice I hope you stay out of the grocery stores! They do not misrepresent what they sell. They have good products at fair prices because they don’t pay tour players thousands of dollars a WEEK just to put one in their bag. If you ask me, people should stay away from the brand names. You can putt beter than you ever thought. www.targetputting.com
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message [snip] I too have found them to be very good. I’ve ordered a Driver and an iron set with no problems. However, When they deliver to the UK the import tax (collected by Fed Ex on behalf of Customs and Excise) is quite expensive. The driver I ordered was 70 dollars assembled and delivered, and after import tax (The bill for the tax arrived about a month after driver delivery) the total cost went up to 70 pounds. All this aside, I found the company and products to be excellent. Will
Its normal, when importing in the UK to read dollar prices on web sites as exact Sterling prices, even though there are 1.5 (or more at the moment) US dollars to the pound. Thats tax and shipping for you!
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I’m just curious what type of clubs that you play? Are they OEM or component. If component, what type/name are they? Chris S. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m talking about the fact that these guys even name the clubs very close to the original names. and try to mimic the color schemes. That’s a pretty lowball tactic to try and get someone to buy your clubs Look like blatant knockoffs to me So what? You’re going to tell me that something like Golfsmith TC-01 aren’t Hogan knock offs, or John Jacobs aren’t Ping knock offs? JHH
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I’m talking about the fact that these guys even name the clubs very close to the original names. and try to mimic the color schemes. That’s a pretty lowball tactic to try and get someone to buy your clubs
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Look like blatant knockoffs to me So what? You’re going to tell me that something like Golfsmith TC-01 aren’t Hogan knock offs, or John Jacobs aren’t Ping knock offs? JHH
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Well, yes they are. Of course, no other component company sells knock offs. You don’t have to buy from them. Look like blatant knockoffs to me message Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve ordered from Diamondtour on three occasions this summer. I’ve been totally satisfied with their service, price and quality. (I let them assemble my orders as their charge was very reasonable). I’m currently awaiting a fourth order (due in a couple of days). I give them two thumbs up. Bob
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Drop me an email with your questions/concerns, etc., and I’ll be glad to phone them up on your behalf. Peter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all. Call them up. I’ve made several orders from them, and have had nothing but positive experiences. Quality is fine, company is excellent in terms of responsiveness and service. Email has been so wacko recently with the worms, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear that they’ve stopped reading it for a while. They’re fine on the phone. 1-800-826-5340 HTH, Peter Peter pfs126 at earthlink dot net I am in the UK making phoning a problem, both cost and time wise. I know emails an issue at the moment, I was just hoping they’d be a bit quicker.
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Look like blatant knockoffs to me
So what? You’re going to tell me that something like Golfsmith TC-01 aren’t Hogan knock offs, or John Jacobs aren’t Ping knock offs? JHH
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all. Thumbs up from me too. They have done the right thing by me a couple of times. 1) i told them I was bit miffed about how much postage they charged on one particluar order and they refunded the postage in full. 2) i had a head crack and they agreed to send me the replacement without waiting for the faulty head to get to them first (I live is Australia), so that I would be without the club for the least amount of time possible. i.e they trusted me to do the right thing. Tony
Hi, I too have found them to be very good. I’ve ordered a Driver and an iron set with no problems. However, When they deliver to the UK the import tax (collected by Fed Ex on behalf of Customs and Excise) is quite expensive. The driver I ordered was 70 dollars assembled and delivered, and after import tax (The bill for the tax arrived about a month after driver delivery) the total cost went up to 70 pounds. All this aside, I found the company and products to be excellent. Will
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all. Call them up. I’ve made several orders from them, and have had nothing but positive experiences. Quality is fine, company is excellent in terms of responsiveness and service. Email has been so wacko recently with the worms, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear that they’ve stopped reading it for a while. They’re fine on the phone. 1-800-826-5340 HTH, Peter Peter pfs126 at earthlink dot net
I am in the UK making phoning a problem, both cost and time wise. I know emails an issue at the moment, I was just hoping they’d be a bit quicker.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all. Ordered twice within the past few months with excellent results, both in quality of product and service. I am going to place another order in a day or so without reservation. (My son has ‘adopted’ my rescue hybrid wood. I’ll be needing another one.) You may want to use the phone as I suspect many email accounts are trashed with the current worn infestation. — Bob Andrews
In the UK very difficult, time and costs considered.
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Great stuff. Call them – email is rather slow. They have done OK by me. Broken shafts were replaced without a hassle. Check out the heads by SMT !!!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
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I’ve had nothing but positive experiences with them on the several orders I have placed.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
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Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
Thumbs up from me too. They have done the right thing by me a couple of times. 1) i told them I was bit miffed about how much postage they charged on one particluar order and they refunded the postage in full. 2) i had a head crack and they agreed to send me the replacement without waiting for the faulty head to get to them first (I live is Australia), so that I would be without the club for the least amount of time possible. i.e they trusted me to do the right thing. Tony
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Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
Ordered twice within the past few months with excellent results, both in quality of product and service. I am going to place another order in a day or so without reservation. (My son has ‘adopted’ my rescue hybrid wood. I’ll be needing another one.) You may want to use the phone as I suspect many email accounts are trashed with the current worn infestation. — Bob Andrews
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I’ll send him an e-mail to see what’s hot there. I have no experience with those heads. It’ll be a day or so. I can tell you that they do first rate assembly. Chris S.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve had quick responses to 2 emails just last week…I’ve heard and read nothing but good things about diamondtour…knockoffs???, sure but almost everything in the world is a knockoff of an original, successful idea… Chris, my question about diamondtour is if anyone has any experience with the Tour Response 900 irons and the Z Tour 3 Plus irons… I have tried a 7 iron in each…Both are nice…The TR 900 has a rifle 5.0 in it and it is a sweet stick (TA7 knockoff)…The Z tour 3+ (i3+ knockoff) sets up very nice, but the one i tried had a r flex apollo shaft in it and didn’t feel as solid as the TR 900 with the rifle…. Just wondering if you or your friend who assembles clubs for diamondtour have any comments on these irons… I am considering a new set of irons (i currently play ping eye 2+, blk dot) and i don’t really want spend $1100 for a set of i3+’s with rifles… The TR 900’s and Z tour 3+’s assembled with rifles can be had for about $200 from diamondtour…The quality appears good… Too good to be true??? You get what you pay for??? Help !!!!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They are rather slow on e-mails. I’ve used them and they are really good. The quality of the stuff is good. I have a friend who does most of their club building, and he tells me that their reputation is growing among the component suppliers. YMMV.
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I have been ordering stuff from them for a while. Always got good service. I was thinking about starting to play again about 4 years ago and ordered a set of 858 clone irons. They are great. Recently, I have ordered several driver heads and shafts and a couple of putters. You can do business with them confidently. Wanna make more short putts? www.targetputting.com has the answer
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Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
Call them up. I’ve made several orders from them, and have had nothing but positive experiences. Quality is fine, company is excellent in terms of responsiveness and service. Email has been so wacko recently with the worms, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear that they’ve stopped reading it for a while. They’re fine on the phone. 1-800-826-5340 HTH, Peter Peter pfs126 at earthlink dot net
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Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
Never had a problem with them. Pretty good product line. Defective stuff was replaced immediately without question (shaft box bent in half in transit; has a negative effect on shaft quality. The delivery service made more of a fuss over it than Diamondtour). — RSG Masters 2004 pre-preliminary format http://home.att.net/~frostback2002 RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/?rc=frostback "The privilege of a lifetime is being who you are" Joseph Campbell
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I’ve had quick responses to 2 emails just last week…I’ve heard and read nothing but good things about diamondtour…knockoffs???, sure but almost everything in the world is a knockoff of an original, successful idea… Chris, my question about diamondtour is if anyone has any experience with the Tour Response 900 irons and the Z Tour 3 Plus irons… I have tried a 7 iron in each…Both are nice…The TR 900 has a rifle 5.0 in it and it is a sweet stick (TA7 knockoff)…The Z tour 3+ (i3+ knockoff) sets up very nice, but the one i tried had a r flex apollo shaft in it and didn’t feel as solid as the TR 900 with the rifle…. Just wondering if you or your friend who assembles clubs for diamondtour have any comments on these irons… I am considering a new set of irons (i currently play ping eye 2+, blk dot) and i don’t really want spend $1100 for a set of i3+’s with rifles… The TR 900’s and Z tour 3+’s assembled with rifles can be had for about $200 from diamondtour…The quality appears good… Too good to be true??? You get what you pay for??? Help !!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They are rather slow on e-mails. I’ve used them and they are really good. The quality of the stuff is good. I have a friend who does most of their club building, and he tells me that their reputation is growing among the component suppliers. YMMV.
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Look like blatant knockoffs to me
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all. I’ve ordered from Diamondtour on three occasions this summer. I’ve been totally satisfied with their service, price and quality. (I let them assemble my orders as their charge was very reasonable). I’m currently awaiting a fourth order (due in a couple of days). I give them two thumbs up. Bob
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Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
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They are rather slow on e-mails. I’ve used them and they are really good. The quality of the stuff is good. I have a friend who does most of their club building, and he tells me that their reputation is growing among the component suppliers. YMMV. Chris S.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
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Anyone else ordered anything from them? Quality of stuff? Company good? Support Good? I have emailed them with some queries (twice) and no response, thats all.
I’ve ordered from Diamondtour on three occasions this summer. I’ve been totally satisfied with their service, price and quality. (I let them assemble my orders as their charge was very reasonable). I’m currently awaiting a fourth order (due in a couple of days). I give them two thumbs up. Bob