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club feedback solicitation…Tommy Armour and Snake Eyes

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Do any of you use Tommy Armour or Snake Eyes Irons? Looking for feedback about quality, use, feel, etc. I’ve read some of the reviews online and they all seem to be glowing. The problem with some review sites is that often people post glowing reviews simply to justify their own purchase. I know that’s not always the case, but honesty seems to be pretty rampant in here. :-) Thoughts? -bill

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Do any of you use Tommy Armour or Snake Eyes Irons? Looking for feedback about quality, use, feel, etc. I’ve read some of the reviews online and they all seem to be glowing. The problem with some review sites is that often people post glowing reviews simply to justify their own purchase. I know that’s not always the case, but honesty seems to be pretty rampant in here. :-) Thoughts? -bill

The Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scot irons are still considered one of the finest cast cavity back clubs ever made. They were taken out of production about 5 years ago, but demand was great enough that they were reintroduced (with a parallel hosel instead of taper) less than 18 months later. I believe they were recently retired again, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they made another comeback, the design is that good. (FYI, the current 845FS is NOT the same club as the 845s, although it looks very similar.) My first set of decent clubs were regular flex graphite shafted Tommy Armour 855s irons, basically an oversized, game improvement version of the 845. They were very good and I played with the for 2 years. I changed clubs about 5 years ago, but it was because my swing speed had increased to the point where I needed a stiff flex shaft and I wanted to switch to steel shafts, not because I wasn’t happy with the 855s. I gave very serious consideration to steel shafted TA 845 irons, but they were out of production at the time, so I decided to build a set of Golfsmith Tour Cavity irons instead. TA is not a major player in the business anymore, but from all accounts they still make good quality clubs. Snake Eyes was an OEM at one time, but now is one of the Golfsmith house brands. In the US you can buy them assembled or as components. I have the 22* and 18* QuickStrike hybrid clubs that I assembled myself and have been very happy with the, especially the 22*. Some people have complained that the finish isn’t very durable and the finish on mine is flaking. However, the club performs very well, so I couldn’t care less what it looks like. — Dan Driscoll Member – NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld

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The Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scot irons are still considered one of the finest cast cavity back clubs ever made. They were taken out of production about 5 years ago, but demand was great enough that they were reintroduced (with a parallel hosel instead of taper) less than 18 months later. I believe they were recently retired again, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they made another comeback, the design is that good. (FYI, the current 845FS is NOT the same club as the 845s, although it looks very similar.)

I’ve been looking at the 845U – that’s the black-and-red one…I’ll have to look up the differences, but the prices have certainly been good.

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In article Do any of you use Tommy Armour or Snake Eyes Irons? Looking for feedback about quality, use, feel, etc. I’ve read some of the reviews online and they all seem to be glowing. The problem with some review sites is that often people post glowing reviews simply to justify their own purchase. I know that’s not always the case, but honesty seems to be pretty rampant in here. :-) Thoughts?

I’ve been playing TA 845 Titaniums (graphite shafts) for about 4 or 5 years now.  I had been playing Bullets up until then.  I went to the local golf shop and hit just about every brand they had and the TA’s were as close to the Bullets as I could find as far as feel – I favor clubs where I can really feel the heads at the end of the club.  Most of the others felt too light.  I had to get them ordered straight from the factory because I needed them bent 3- degrees upright. As near as I can remember, the shop did not have Snake Eyes irons, so I cannot comment on those. — Jeff Chung SF Bay Area Golf Course Reviews http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/golf1.htm

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I have been playing Armour 845’s for about 10 years.  My first set were stiff flex, steel shafted, regular sized 845’s.  I played with them for about 6 years before giving them to my son and switching to Armour 845 Titanium faced irons with a regular flex, steel shaft. I felt my swing speed had decreased to the point where I was losing distance playing a stiff shaft. I have been playing the "Ti’s" for about 4 years. The Armours are a great club. Good feedback and somewhat forgiving of off-hits. That having been written, I recently purchased a 5 and 8 iron along with a pitching wedge from a company online.  They are clones of the Ping I3 irons. I ordered these with a regular flex, graphite shaft.  They came in yesterday and tonight will be my first time hitting them.  I will let you know if there is any big difference in the Armours vs. the cloned Pings. Just one man’s opinion. Bernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do any of you use Tommy Armour or Snake Eyes Irons? Looking for feedback about quality, use, feel, etc. I’ve read some of the reviews online and they all seem to be glowing. The problem with some review sites is that often people post glowing reviews simply to justify their own purchase. I know that’s not always the case, but honesty seems to be pretty rampant in here. :-) Thoughts? -bill

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Do any of you use Tommy Armour or Snake Eyes Irons? Looking for feedback about quality, use, feel, etc. I’ve read some of the reviews online and they all seem to be glowing. The problem with some review sites is that often people post glowing reviews simply to justify their own purchase. I know that’s not always the case, but honesty seems to be pretty rampant in here.

I know what you mean about the reviews, very few people are going to take the trouble to admit they’re wrong about the money they just spent unless they’re really p*ssed off about it. You don’t see too many "I spent $700 for these irons  and they suck!" write-ups. Do a search for "Ham and Eggs golf" and find their site, they’re pretty objective. I bought a set used of Amour 845s off eBay as my first set of clubs and I liked them a lot. I’d have them still except I bought stiff steel shafts not knowing any better and eventually replaced them with a set of regular flex Adams with graphite tips to see if my elbows would stop hurting. (they did) They’re very forgiving clubs, you don’t have to hit the sweetspot to get a decent result. And when you do hit it flush you can feel that too. I got to where I could easily tell a toe, heel or thin hit just by feel. You can certainly buy more expensive clubs, but if you’re like me, until your game gets to the level where you’re breaking 80, these will do just fine. And I doubt they’ll get in the way of breaking 80 as I’m sure there are plenty of better golfers playing Armours. It just seems many of them gravitate to Titleists and Pings for some reason. Consider buying a used set off eBay, there are plenty of sets available and if it turns out they don’t suit you, you can auction them off and not be out too much $$.

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I have now played several rounds with the Ping clones that I purchased from Giga-golf.  I see or feel no significant difference between them and the Tommy Armour 845’s I carry. My conclusion would be that I was foolish to pay $900 for the Armour’s and given the choice I would purchase the clones and save the money.  This is just one man’s opinion but in the hands of a low to mid teens handicap player, I don’t think the clubs make a huge difference. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do any of you use Tommy Armour or Snake Eyes Irons? Looking for feedback about quality, use, feel, etc. I’ve read some of the reviews online and they all seem to be glowing. The problem with some review sites is that often people post glowing reviews simply to justify their own purchase. I know that’s not always the case, but honesty seems to be pretty rampant in here. :-) Thoughts? -bill

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" My conclusion would be that I was foolish to pay $900 for the Armour’s and given the choice I would purchase the clones and save the money.  This is just one man’s opinion but in the hands of a low to mid teens handicap player, I don’t think the clubs make a huge difference.

$900?! Every set of irons I’m looking at is $299-$399… -bill

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Bill, Which set of Armours are you shopping for? www.rockbottomgolf.com has the Royal Scots for $139 and the Silver Scots for $219. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – " My conclusion would be that I was foolish to pay $900 for the Armour’s and given the choice I would purchase the clones and save the money.  This is just one man’s opinion but in the hands of a low to mid teens handicap player, I don’t think the clubs make a huge difference. $900?! Every set of irons I’m looking at is $299-$399… -bill

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I bought a set of T/A 845 Titanium faced irons. I paid $899 for them.  In fact that was the going price for any set of top quality irons a few years ago. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – " My conclusion would be that I was foolish to pay $900 for the Armour’s and given the choice I would purchase the clones and save the money.  This is just one man’s opinion but in the hands of a low to mid teens handicap player, I don’t think the clubs make a huge difference. $900?! Every set of irons I’m looking at is $299-$399… -bill

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Bill, Which set of Armours are you shopping for? www.rockbottomgolf.com has the Royal Scots for $139 and the Silver Scots for $219.

I was looking at the 845U and the 845S. Both were $299 as of yesterday.

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