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Athletically, Tiger is not from another planet. Read the thread
"one in million?"." OTOH, I’m not sure superathletes like the Williams sisters would rule, if they had been golfers. Half of the game is about touch, something that doesn’t always go hand in hand with being strong and/or fast. David
Normally I would tend to agree with you…but if you watched the Wimbledon ladies singles final between Venus Williams and Lindsay Davenport earlier this month, you would see Williams was using drop shots on Davenport, so she’s learning about touch…whether or not she could translate those skills to golf is hard to say. Tennis requires finesse too..drop shots and slice are just as important as blasting away from the baseline or bombing a big serve up the middle or out wide…it’s a matter of using the right shot in the right situation, like in golf…timing and placement is everything in tennis, as well as shot selection. The Williams sisters are definitely great athletes, but it’s hard to say whether or not their athleticism will translate into success in golf…first of all, does either sister or both sisters even play the game? That’s the first question…even if with their athletic prowess, it will take them sometime to learn the game and the intricacies involved and strategy to use if they are learning from scratch…all superstar athletes started from scratch and honed their talents for their specific sport(s). Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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Tennis requires a lot of touch in order to place their shots where they want
them. That’s true, but even the softest tennis shots would at best be equivalent to a pitch shot. There is no touch shot in tennis roughly equivalent to the touch required by putting, which of course is nearly have the game. And in baseball, similarly with the occasional bunt. David
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Athletically, Tiger is not from another planet. Read the thread "one in million?". OTOH, I’m not sure superathletes like the Williams sisters would rule, if they had been golfers. Half of the game is about touch, something that doesn’t always go hand in hand with being strong and/or fast.
What kind of golfer might someone like Ken Griffey Jr. have made? What about Barry Bonds, Barry Larkin, etc if they had grown up golfers instead of baseball players? dsc – acssysdsc
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Athletically, Tiger is not from another planet. Read the thread "one in million?". OTOH, I’m not sure superathletes like the Williams sisters would rule, if they had been golfers. Half of the game is about touch, something that doesn’t always go hand in hand with being strong and/or fast. David
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Tennis requires a lot of touch in order to place their shots where they want them.
| Athletically, Tiger is not from another planet. Read the thread "one in | million?". | | OTOH, I’m not sure superathletes like the Williams sisters would rule, if they | had been golfers. Half of the game is about touch, something that doesn’t | always go hand in hand with being strong and/or fast. | | David |
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Hello…A typical long par 4 in our area of say 460 yds from the tips and fairly soft fairways would have TW playing a driver and a 8 or 9 iron. CW from the red/ladies tees from about 300 yds would likely play a driver and a partial lob wedge. The 3 tour challenge approach makes the LPGA players play from much further back than the "red" tees to even it out. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are you serious or just out of touch with reality? When they play the 3 tour exhibition tournament they set the course up so that all of the players have about the same iron approach into the greens, except you can’t do that with Tiger or for example Laura Davies because they are so far out of the "normal" distances. In the final analysis you have to admit that Tiger is from another planet and is no longer limited in his ability because we do not have Kryptonite on this planet. On most good courses, Karrie [& many other LPGA players] would clean Tiger’s clock IF they played from the official "ladies" tees with Tiger playing from the tips. MOST LPGA events have tees more equivalent to medium men’s tees (~6000 yds). Most courses’ ladies tees range in the 4500-5000 yd categories. Karrie & co. would be easily reaching ALL the par 5’s from the front tees and would have short irons to the green on almost every par 3 or 4. The LPGA players can really putt well too. Even in the year end "Three Tour Challenge" event, the LPGA players aren’t allowed to play from the front[red] tees. Women’s tees, men’s tees. think anyone would tune in to see that, lol. David
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On most good courses, Karrie [& many other LPGA players] would clean Tiger’s clock IF they played from the official "ladies" tees with Tiger playing from the tips. MOST LPGA events have tees more equivalent to medium men’s tees (~6000 yds). Most courses’ ladies tees range in the 4500-5000 yd
I think the course Karie just won on (which spurred this thread) was playing around 6800 yards… if I heard correctly the other day. dsc – acssysdsc
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Are you serious or just out of touch with reality? When they play the 3 tour exhibition tournament they set the course up so that all of the players have about the same iron approach into the greens, except you can’t do that with Tiger or for example Laura Davies because they are so far out of the "normal" distances. In the final analysis you have to admit that Tiger is from another planet and is no longer limited in his ability because we do not have Kryptonite on this planet. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On most good courses, Karrie [& many other LPGA players] would clean Tiger’s clock IF they played from the official "ladies" tees with Tiger playing from the tips. MOST LPGA events have tees more equivalent to medium men’s tees (~6000 yds). Most courses’ ladies tees range in the 4500-5000 yd categories. Karrie & co. would be easily reaching ALL the par 5’s from the front tees and would have short irons to the green on almost every par 3 or 4. The LPGA players can really putt well too. Even in the year end "Three Tour Challenge" event, the LPGA players aren’t allowed to play from the front[red] tees. Women’s tees, men’s tees. think anyone would tune in to see that, lol. David
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Ladies golf has a long way to go. The PGA Tour needs Tiger to take it to the next level, but the LPGA might well be less competitive now than it was in the 1970s. With Tiger in the PGA Tour I can see "real" male athletes taking an interest in golf, but I have no idea why a woman would rather play on the LPGA Tour if she could run, skate, play soccer, beach volleyball, or just about anything else instead.
Except the money. AFAIK, you can’t win US$750,000 playing beach volleyball.
Cheers Colin Wilson Australian handicap: 10.1 RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm
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Women’s tees, men’s tees. think anyone would tune in to see that, lol.
Yes… I would. dsc – acssysdsc
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Ladies golf has a long way to go. The PGA Tour needs Tiger to take it to the next level, but the LPGA might well be less competitive now than it was in the 1970s. With Tiger in the PGA Tour I can see "real" male athletes taking an interest in golf, but I have no idea why a woman would rather play on the LPGA Tour if she could run, skate, play soccer, beach volleyball, or just about anything else instead. Except the money. AFAIK, you can’t win US$750,000 playing beach volleyball.
You can make a living. All in all there’s probably more money in golf. If a few women with physiques like, say, Venus Williams took up golf, the sport would change very quickly. -joseph — Joseph N. Hall … perl, golf, music, and so on Music – http://www.digitalweapons.com Book — http://www.effectiveperl.com The Usual Crap — http://www.5sigma.com/joseph
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Even if you managed to totally cancel Tiger’s power advantage he would still win because he has a better short game.
I totally agree. Karrie’s short game is relatively mundane. But on the other hand, the women don’t play many setups where a deft touch with a high lofted wedge is required. Ladies golf has a long way to go. The PGA Tour needs Tiger to take it to the next level, but the LPGA might well be less competitive now than it was in the 1970s. With Tiger in the PGA Tour I can see "real" male athletes taking an interest in golf, but I have no idea why a woman would rather play on the LPGA Tour if she could run, skate, play soccer, beach volleyball, or just about anything else instead. -joseph — Joseph N. Hall … perl, golf, music, and so on Music – http://www.digitalweapons.com Book — http://www.effectiveperl.com The Usual Crap — http://www.5sigma.com/joseph
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On most good courses, Karrie [& many other LPGA players] would clean Tiger’s clock IF they played from the official "ladies" tees with Tiger playing from the tips. MOST LPGA events have tees more equivalent to medium men’s tees (~6000 yds). Most courses’ ladies tees range in the 4500-5000 yd categories. Karrie & co. would be easily reaching ALL the par 5’s from the front tees and would have short irons to the green on almost every par 3 or 4. The LPGA players can really putt well too. Even in the year end "Three Tour Challenge" event, the LPGA players aren’t allowed to play from the front[red] tees.
Even if you managed to totally cancel Tiger’s power advantage he would still win because he has a better short game.
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I think we’re about to see the 2 greatest players of their respective tours! I can’t really believe Tiger’s win, it was so comprehensive, and so well controlled. I have now seen the best player in my lifetime - and I’m over 60! And, for good measure, I’ve also seen the best female player in my lifetime. And I’m an Oz, so its doubly rewarding. What two great tournaments won by two great players! — Regards Barrie Smart The Wizard of Oz!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Women’s tees, men’s tees. think anyone would tune in to see that, lol. David
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On most good courses, Karrie [& many other LPGA players] would clean Tiger’s clock IF they played from the official "ladies" tees with Tiger playing from the tips. MOST LPGA events have tees more equivalent to medium men’s tees (~6000 yds). Most courses’ ladies tees range in the 4500-5000 yd categories. Karrie & co. would be easily reaching ALL the par 5’s from the front tees and would have short irons to the green on almost every par 3 or 4. The LPGA players can really putt well too. Even in the year end "Three Tour Challenge" event, the LPGA players aren’t allowed to play from the front[red] tees.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Women’s tees, men’s tees. think anyone would tune in to see that, lol. David
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Women’s tees, men’s tees. think anyone would tune in to see that, lol. David
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Women’s tees, men’s tees. think anyone would tune in to see that, lol. David
They are cancelling "Surgical" Garcia’s match with Tiger in favor of one with "Scary" Webb at this very moment. -joseph — Joseph N. Hall … perl, golf, music, and so on Music – http://www.digitalweapons.com Book — http://www.effectiveperl.com The Usual Crap — http://www.5sigma.com/joseph
