Question:
Sorry, I am hung-up on Christian’s "waggle"
Response:
I’ve read many times the benefit of it to initiate a swing, but whether it’s done by the *slight* shift of the right leg or with the hands/arms towards the target, it seems to me that if you start the takeaway after the waggle, you end up delofting the clubhead.
If you keep the clubhead stationary and shift the arms and hands a little towards the target, Steve, it definitely will deloft the face somewhat. But whether it’s maintained throughout the swing, especially when the wrists are set at the top, is problematical. I doubt that it’s something you could consciously maintain throughout the swing. I’ve tried it a few times, so either I’m doing it incorrectly, although, I’m guessing there really is not right way to do it, or is it the case that as long as you’ve swung correctly, the hands and the clubhead return to the ball alright?
Hopefully, the clubhead will return to the ball in the same slightly delofted position you started the takeway with. Delofting adds distance to a well=hit shot. Most folks do the opposite, adding loft to the clubface at impact, and lose distance. — Don Porter Newspaper Reporter & Webmaster Web Page: http://www.datacruz.com/~dporter
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why try to deloft the club? Delofting of the club during the golf swing is a good thing, and not just for bragging purposes. Don’t take my word for it, read about Hogan’s swing. He was one of the best ball strikers ever and had tremendous lag through his shot. It’s not something you try to do either. It’s a result of a good swing where you clear you lower body and let the upper body follow suit. That will automatically cause a delayed release which gives you power and accuracy and a delofted club at impact. All great golfers will have a delofting effect to a certain extent. S. Garcia’s swing is another good example of lag and how the club head delofts. Can stress this enough it’s a result of a good swing that stays on plane with correct wieght shift.
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Sounds like what you are talking about is what is also called a forward press … pretty common in putting. Less common in the swing. I guees nearly everyone has some sort of swing trigger, but one of the things that was ingrained somewhere in my youth is no shifting of the hands at the takeway. I guess some of the thinking is that can break down your takeway pretty quick. I prefer, at least to think about it this way, turning from the shoulders. I suppose if you have a lot of tension built up, something like a waggle or a press can loosen things up to get everything going. But I would try to keep it to a minimum. I do have to say one of the best irons players I ever knew, had a huge forward press in his swing. Could not hit his woods though, which I wonder if that is not an element of the delofting question. — JoePete – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve read many times the benefit of it to initiate a swing, but whether it’s done by the *slight* shift of the right leg or with the hands/arms towards the target, it seems to me that if you start the takeaway after the waggle, you end up delofting the clubhead.
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So, I’m talking about the the waggle just before the takeaway starts, and not the kind you do during a pre routine. I’ve read many times the benefit of it to initiate a swing, but whether it’s done by the *slight* shift of the right leg or with the hands/arms towards the target, it seems to me that if you start the takeaway after the waggle, you end up delofting the clubhead. I’ve tried it a few times, so either I’m doing it incorrectly, although, I’m guessing there really is not right way to do it, or is it the case that as long as you’ve swung correctly, the hands and the clubhead return to the ball alright? When I do incorporate the slight waggle with my hands/arms, I seem more relaxed and at ease once the backswing starts, as opposed to starting it from cold. What are some of your thoughts on this? I’d appreciate any insight into this. TIA! Steve