Question:
Why would you waste $80 just for some teaching pro to tell you that the ball is positioned 2 inches too far back in your stance? You see, lessons aren’t necessary for a golfer to achieve his/her full potential. You can be your own teacher. All you need is an understanding of how the golf swing works. When you practice, look at what kind of bad shots you hit. Then think about all the things that could be causing the bad shot. Then try different things until you correct the bad shot. That’s all there is to it. No $100 lessons. Of course a golf magazine subscription helps, but you don’t need much more than that. This is the method I have been using and it works just fine. I can diagnose and cure any swing fault that I may have, and usually pretty quickly. Try that and I promise it will be just as good or better than a Jim McLean or a David Leadbetter. — PlanetChad http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/4252 if ya smell what PlanetChad is cookin!
Response:
hmmm? Planet Chad
Response:
Why would you waste $80 just for some teaching pro to tell you that the ball is positioned 2 inches too far back in your stance? You see, lessons aren’t necessary for a golfer to achieve his/her full potential. You can be your own teacher. All you need is an understanding of how the golf swing works. When you practice, look at what kind of bad shots you hit. Then think about all the things that could be causing the bad shot. Then try different things until you correct the bad shot. That’s all there is to it. No $100 lessons. Of course a golf magazine subscription helps, but you don’t need much more than that. This is the method I have been using and it works just fine. I can diagnose and cure any swing fault that I may have, and usually pretty quickly. Try that and I promise it will be just as good or better than a Jim McLean or a David Leadbetter.
If Jack Nicklaus, Bobby Jones, and Tiger Woods all need teachers, then I figure I can’t be making a big mistake using one. (…and you really should look into word-wrap on your posts. They are almost unreadable.) — Jeff Rogers http://www.rogersnetwork.com/
Response:
Why would you waste $80 just for some teaching pro to tell you that the ball is positioned 2 inches too far back in your stance? You see, lessons aren’t necessary for a golfer to achieve his/her full potential. You can be your own teacher. All you need is an understanding of how the golf swing works. When you practice, look at what kind of bad shots you hit. Then think about all the things that could be causing the bad shot. Then try different things until you correct the bad shot. That’s all there is to it. No $100 lessons.
Well, if one had an unlimited amount of time, budget, range balls, and patience, that might be possible, Chad. But most of us are limited in all those areas. Given enough time one might be able to pinpoint a swing flaw. However, a good pro should be able to spot it very quickly and then offer guidance on how to fix it. Working on your swing solely by yourself, it’s all too easy to "fix" one swing problem only to create another one in the process. Lessons may not be for everyone, but they certainly have more value than you give them. — Don Porter Newspaper Reporter & Webmaster Web Page: http://www.datacruz.com/~dporter
Response:
Well I typically spend 20-30 minutes per practice session and I use a golf net and maybe 10-15 balls and I can usually find a flaw in 5 minutes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, if one had an unlimited amount of time, budget, range balls, and patience, that might be possible, Chad. But most of us are limited in all those areas. Given enough time one might be able to pinpoint a swing flaw. However, a good pro should be able to spot it very quickly and then offer guidance on how to fix it. Working on your swing solely by yourself, it’s all too easy to "fix" one swing problem only to create another one in the process. Lessons may not be for everyone, but they certainly have more value than you give them. — Don Porter Newspaper Reporter & Webmaster Web Page: http://www.datacruz.com/~dporter
Response:
hmmm? Planet Chad
Who else? Here’s some quotes off his web page: "I know a whole lot about golf." "I have a hard, perfect swing that looks like a combination of Tiger Woods and John Daly." "I’m good at trick shots, trouble shots, bunker shots, putting, and driving." "I shoot about 90." You would think that someone who has a perfect swing and can hit every shot in the book could at least break 70.
Response:
Well I typically spend 20-30 minutes per practice session and I use a golf net and maybe 10-15 balls and I can usually find a flaw in 5 minutes.
When there a lot of them, they are easy to find. — –dph (dhayes AT iname DOT com)
Response:
Well, if he’s shooting around 90, then he must be using some sort of swing flaw when he’s teeing off, especially if his iron game is than great. Yea, right. And I’m Annika Sorenstam. — Teresa Williamson roll call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/williamsont.htm RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hmmm? Planet Chad Who else? Here’s some quotes off his web page: "I know a whole lot about golf." "I have a hard, perfect swing that looks like a combination of Tiger Woods and John Daly." "I’m good at trick shots, trouble shots, bunker shots, putting, and driving." "I shoot about 90." You would think that someone who has a perfect swing and can hit every shot in the book could at least break 70.
Response:
My son’s in the middle of a course of lessons were the pro uses a computer to compare your swing to a professional. It’s worked great for him he’s just shot 77 on a reasonably difficult course and can’t praise the lessons highly enough. Why would you waste $80 just for some teaching pro to tell you that the ball is positioned 2 inches too far back in your stance? You see, lessons aren’t necessary for a golfer to achieve his/her full potential. You can be your own teacher. All you need is an understanding of how the golf swing works. When you practice, look at what kind of bad shots you hit. Then think about all the things that could be causing the bad shot. Then try different things until you correct the bad shot. That’s all there is to it. No $100 lessons. Of course a golf magazine subscription helps, but you don’t need much more than that. This is the method I have been using and it works just fine. I can diagnose and cure any swing fault that I may have, and usually pretty quickly. Try that and I promise it will be just as good or better than a Jim McLean or a David Leadbetter. — PlanetChad http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/4252 if ya smell what PlanetChad is cookin!
Response:
Well I typically spend 20-30 minutes per practice session and I use a golf net and maybe 10-15 balls and I can usually find a flaw in 5 minutes.
How do you figure out, hitting into a net, what the resultant ballflight is like? A net is certainly too close to determine if it’s a slice, fade, draw, or hook. How would you be able to correct, say, a slice, without actually seeing the ballflight? And how would you know if you had it corrected? Mike Dalecki
Response:
My son’s in the middle of a course of lessons were the pro uses a computer to compare your swing to a professional. It’s worked great for him he’s just shot 77 on a reasonably difficult course and can’t praise the lessons highly enough. Why would you waste $80 just for some teaching pro to tell you that the ball is positioned 2 inches too far back in your stance? You see, lessons aren’t necessary for a golfer to achieve his/her full potential. You can be your own teacher. All you need is an understanding of how the golf swing works. When you practice, look at what kind of bad shots you hit. Then think about all the things that could be causing the bad shot. Then try different things until you correct the bad shot. That’s all there is to it. No $100 lessons. Of course a golf magazine subscription helps, but you don’t need much more than that. This is the method I have been using and it works just fine. I can diagnose and cure any swing fault that I may have, and usually pretty quickly. Try that and I promise it will be just as good or better than a Jim McLean or a David Leadbetter.
That self-teaching thing still isn’t working with word-wrap, is it? — Jeff Rogers http://www.rogersnetwork.com/
Response:
Supposedly Calvin Peete taught himself by going to a used bookstore, buying two books, taking a 5-iron, some balls, and a pack of cigarettes to an empty football field, and started teaching himself. 12 Tour wins, a Vardon Trophy, two Ryder Cups, a TPC (5th major), and over $2 million in earnings isn’t doing too badly…
Response:
I regard my instructor very highly and look forward with great anticipation to every session we have. A number of people in this forum will tell you I hit the ball pretty good for an old, fat white guy. As has been the case so many other times in this forum, you have no idea what you are talking about. I would like to see the result of your "self-teaching". Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why would you waste $80 just for some teaching pro to tell you that the = ball is positioned 2 inches too far back in your stance? You see, = lessons aren’t necessary for a golfer to achieve his/her full potential. = You can be your own teacher. All you need is an understanding of how = the golf swing works. When you practice, look at what kind of bad shots = you hit. Then think about all the things that could be causing the bad = shot. Then try different things until you correct the bad shot. That’s = all there is to it. No $100 lessons. Of course a golf magazine = subscription helps, but you don’t need much more than that. This is the = method I have been using and it works just fine. I can diagnose and = cure any swing fault that I may have, and usually pretty quickly. Try = that and I promise it will be just as good or better than a Jim McLean = or a David Leadbetter. –=20 PlanetChad http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/4252 if ya smell what PlanetChad is cookin! Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" <HTML<HEAD <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR</HEAD <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff <DIV<FONT size=3D2Why would you waste $80 just for some teaching pro = to tell you=20 that the ball is positioned 2 inches too far back in your stance? = You see,=20 lessons aren’t necessary for a golfer to achieve his/her full = potential. =20 You can be your own teacher. All you need is an understanding of = how the=20 golf swing works. When you practice, look at what kind of bad = shots you=20 hit. Then think about all the things that could be causing the bad = shot. Then try different things until you correct the bad = shot. =20 That’s all there is to it. No $100 lessons. Of course a golf = magazine subscription helps, but you don’t need much more than = that. This=20 is the method I have been using and it works just fine. I can = diagnose and=20 cure any swing fault that I may have, and usually pretty quickly. = Try that=20 and I promise it will be just as good or better than a Jim McLean or a = David=20 Leadbetter.<BR– <BRPlanetChad<BR<A=20 href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/4252"http://www.g= eocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/4252</A<BRif=20 ya smell what PlanetChad is cookin!</FONT</DIV</BODY</HTML
Response:
Supposedly Calvin Peete taught himself by going to a used bookstore, buying two books, taking a 5-iron, some balls, and a pack of cigarettes to an empty football field, and started teaching himself.
Question: Did he win those tournaments, a Vardon Trophy, the Cups, etc., etc., without ever having a lesson? You say he started teaching himself. Is that all he ever relied on? Mike Dalecki – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 12 Tour wins, a Vardon Trophy, two Ryder Cups, a TPC (5th major), and over $2 million in earnings isn’t doing too badly…
Response:
I regard my instructor very highly and look forward with great anticipation to every session we have. A number of people in this forum will tell you I hit the ball pretty good for an old, fat white guy. As has been the case so many other times in this forum, you have no idea what you are talking about. I would like to see the result of your "self-teaching". Ken
At, say, ten bucks a hole, no strokes and the ball down. Looks like Ken would be in the $$$ again!! David — RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm
Response:
Well I typically spend 20-30 minutes per practice session and I use a golf net and maybe 10-15 balls and I can usually find a flaw in 5 minutes.
Well, yeah, but you have so many . . . (g) — Don Porter Newspaper Reporter & Webmaster Web Page: http://www.datacruz.com/~dporter
Response:
<clip crap if ya smell what PlanetChad is cookin!
It smells like words that you’d have to eat. Just what planet are you from? "Someone likes every shot" bk
Response:
Lessons may not be for everyone, but they certainly have more value than you give them.
Some folks progress without lessons, others don’t progress without them, and others progress either way. There are some self-taught PGA Tour players but not many. But … some of the self-taught have been very successful! (Hale Irwin for example.) -joseph
Response:
Well I typically spend 20-30 minutes per practice session and I use a golf net and maybe 10-15 balls and I can usually find a flaw in 5 minutes. When there a lot of them, they are easy to find.
ZING!
Response:
A number of people in this forum will tell you I hit the ball pretty good for an old, fat white guy.
Ken, Not only do you live in Texas, drive a truck, play the lottery, chew tobacco & scam handicapped tournaments – you then reveal that you’re fat, old & white. I wonder what Tiger Woods would give to be in your shoes.
Response:
All you need is an understanding of how the golf swing works.
… and they’re the key words. As if it’s that simple. Some people take years to reach an understanding of the golf swing. Some never get it, that’s why they need help. Cheers Colin Wilson Australian handicap: 9.9 RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm Trentham Golf Club: http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/trentham
Response:
Lessons may not be for everyone, but they certainly have more value than you give them. Some folks progress without lessons, others don’t progress without them, and others progress either way. There are some self-taught
Joseph, You left out one of the four combinations of the lessons/progress set: Some folks don’t seem to progress with or without them. Damn, I hate thinking that I might belong to that group, but the evidence would seem to support that conclusion. After lessons, my good shots are now much better, and I certainly hit good shots more often … but my ability to score hasn’t seemed to change much over the years!! Arrrrgggghhhh!! May your next round be your best round. Dave Holo RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/holod.htm
Response:
A number of people in this forum will tell you I hit the ball pretty good for an old, fat white guy.
Yeah, but you’re OUR old, fat white guy. :-) Randy
Response:
A number of people in this forum will tell you I hit the ball pretty good for an old, fat white guy. Ken, Not only do you live in Texas, drive a truck, play the lottery, chew tobacco & scam handicapped tournaments – you then reveal that you’re fat, old & white. I wonder what Tiger Woods would give to be in your shoes.
Lets see, you post behind an alias and from AOL. I bet you also use WebTV to impress the girls in your class.
Response:
Well I typically spend 20-30 minutes per practice session and I use a golf net and maybe 10-15 balls and I can usually find a flaw in 5 minutes. How do you figure out, hitting into a net, what the resultant ballflight is like? A net is certainly too close to determine if it’s a slice, fade, draw, or hook. How would you be able to correct, say, a slice, without actually seeing the ballflight? And how would you know if you had it corrected?
What are you trying to do, bring logic into this thread?