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For years I’ve been fortunate to have been a subscriber to one of the most reliable internet services there is — Mindspring, which, unfortunately, got gobbled up about a year ago by Earthlink, which also had a good reputation, but frankly, I always thought was a notch below. Anyway, I’ve continued to be satisfied with my service. Still am. However, in recent weeks, I’ve noticed some newsgroup posts seem to be late in showing up on my news server. (When I briefly subscribed to Earthlink before the merger, I found their newsgroup service to be inferior to that of Mindspring’s, and I fear the worst — that a transformation to the "Earthlink way" is in process. I hope not.) Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing up on my news server this afternoon. Now, I understand that these things have to "propogate" (whatever that is — actually, I think I have a vague understanding of it) until they finally get to my news server. But that never used to take so long. So my question is this: is it my service? Or could it be his service? Or could it be any one of a gazillion services between his and mine that kept his posts from showing up for two days? I’ll never fully get my arms around this whole internet/usenet thing, and this is just such an area that, while I think I understand conceptually how it works, the nuts and bolts of how something like this could happen have always baffled me. Can someone explain? — Randy Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"
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Seeing as I’m being smeared again by your lot, I’ll point out to you what you’d undoubtedly suggest to others outside your clique, that this is off-topic and should be posted to one of the relevant newsgroups. This is a golf discussion group, not an exclusive club for old-guarders and those who have met at events in North America. Thank you. — F.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For years I’ve been fortunate to have been a subscriber to one of the most reliable internet services there is — Mindspring, which, unfortunately, got gobbled up about a year ago by Earthlink, which also had a good reputation, but frankly, I always thought was a notch below. Anyway, I’ve continued to be satisfied with my service. Still am. However, in recent weeks, I’ve noticed some newsgroup posts seem to be late in showing up on my news server. (When I briefly subscribed to Earthlink before the merger, I found their newsgroup service to be inferior to that of Mindspring’s, and I fear the worst — that a transformation to the "Earthlink way" is in process. I hope not.) Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing up on my news server this afternoon. Now, I understand that these things have to "propogate" (whatever that is — actually, I think I have a vague understanding of it) until they finally get to my news server. But that never used to take so long. So my question is this: is it my service? Or could it be his service? Or could it be any one of a gazillion services between his and mine that kept his posts from showing up for two days? I’ll never fully get my arms around this whole internet/usenet thing, and this is just such an area that, while I think I understand conceptually how it works, the nuts and bolts of how something like this could happen have always baffled me. Can someone explain? — Randy Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"
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Randy, the prob’s are on his side, not yours. KT
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Mindspring and Earthlink are owned by Time Warner. The RoadRunner people. I fought the good fight with Time Warner on their slow news servers, and it paid off. They finally did an upgrade, and 99% of the time, things work great, and posts propagate rather quickly. I encourage you to stay on Earthlink’s ass until they get it right. If you just be patient, though, pretty soon there will only be one ISP as the industry continues to consolidate. Guess who are part owners of RoadRunner? AT&tT & Microsoft! Fred
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I don’t consider the posting you refer to as completely irrelevant and off topic. The poster was requesting assistance from the group were the ‘late’ posts occurred and were sent in by another golfer who is a regular poster to this newsgroup.. The poster is far more likely to get timely assistance from this newsgroup than from another newsgroup where he is a complete stranger. I only wish I could provide him with the answer. Anyway, there is nothing stopping me from coming to the defence of another golfer whom is well respected in this newsgroup. Why do you insist on stirring the pot and trying to cause trouble? Tom K.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seeing as I’m being smeared again by your lot, I’ll point out to you what you’d undoubtedly suggest to others outside your clique, that this is off-topic and should be posted to one of the relevant newsgroups. This is a golf discussion group, not an exclusive club for old-guarders and those who have met at events in North America. Thank you. — F. For years I’ve been fortunate to have been a subscriber to one of the most reliable internet services there is — Mindspring, which, unfortunately, got gobbled up about a year ago by Earthlink, which also had a good reputation, but frankly, I always thought was a notch below. Anyway, I’ve continued to be satisfied with my service. Still am. However, in recent weeks, I’ve noticed some newsgroup posts seem to be late in showing up on my news server. (When I briefly subscribed to Earthlink before the merger, I found their newsgroup service to be inferior to that of Mindspring’s, and I fear the worst — that a transformation to the "Earthlink way" is in process. I hope not.) Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing up on my news server this afternoon. Now, I understand that these things have to "propogate" (whatever that is — actually, I think I have a vague understanding of it) until they finally get to my news server. But that never used to take so long. So my question is this: is it my service? Or could it be his service? Or could it be any one of a gazillion services between his and mine that kept his posts from showing up for two days? I’ll never fully get my arms around this whole internet/usenet thing, and this is just such an area that, while I think I understand conceptually how it works, the nuts and bolts of how something like this could happen have always baffled me. Can someone explain? — Randy Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"
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: Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just : today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that : the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing : up on my news server this afternoon. They just showed up here, too. There are two likely explanations: 1. His server got backlogged sending outbound articles; or 2. His system clock is wrong. It’s probably the latter, though it’s very possibly the former. cb
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No answer but the same thing happens with my ISP. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – However, in recent weeks, I’ve noticed some newsgroup posts seem to be late in showing up on my news server.
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<clip I’ll never fully get my arms around this whole internet/usenet thing, and this is just such an area that, while I think I understand conceptually how it works, the nuts and bolts of how something like this could happen have always baffled me. Can someone explain?
It’s magic. Just go with it. :-) ___ o ’ | / . "Someone likes every shot" bk
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just : today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that : the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing : up on my news server this afternoon. They just showed up here, too. There are two likely explanations: 1. His server got backlogged sending outbound articles; or 2. His system clock is wrong. It’s probably the latter, though it’s very possibly the former. cb
Chris, I just saw more from Mark, with the correct date, so I think maybe it’s the former? KT
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: : : Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just : : today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that : : the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing : : up on my news server this afternoon. : : They just showed up here, too. There are two likely explanations: : : 1. His server got backlogged sending outbound articles; or : 2. His system clock is wrong. : : It’s probably the latter, though it’s very possibly the former. : : I just saw more from Mark, with the correct date, : so I think maybe it’s the former? Probably so. You’re pretty good… wanna be a news admin? ;-) cb
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He’s one of the biggest hypocritical stirrers you could imagine. Highly manipulative and abusive too. And one of the grouip here who think they own the joint and generally treat people like cr*p. Tit for tat. — F. If *anyone* at all has any suggestions or contributions to make to the GOLF SWING TECHNIQUE FAQ, then please either post to the relevant thread in the newsgroup rec.sport.golf.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t consider the posting you refer to as completely irrelevant and off topic. The poster was requesting assistance from the group were the ‘late’ posts occurred and were sent in by another golfer who is a regular poster to this newsgroup.. The poster is far more likely to get timely assistance from this newsgroup than from another newsgroup where he is a complete stranger. I only wish I could provide him with the answer. Anyway, there is nothing stopping me from coming to the defence of another golfer whom is well respected in this newsgroup. Why do you insist on stirring the pot and trying to cause trouble? Tom K. Seeing as I’m being smeared again by your lot, I’ll point out to you what you’d undoubtedly suggest to others outside your clique, that this is off-topic and should be posted to one of the relevant newsgroups. This is a golf discussion group, not an exclusive club for old-guarders and those who have met at events in North America. Thank you. — F. For years I’ve been fortunate to have been a subscriber to one of the most reliable internet services there is — Mindspring, which, unfortunately, got gobbled up about a year ago by Earthlink, which also had a good reputation, but frankly, I always thought was a notch below. Anyway, I’ve continued to be satisfied with my service. Still am. However, in recent weeks, I’ve noticed some newsgroup posts seem to be late in showing up on my news server. (When I briefly subscribed to Earthlink before the merger, I found their newsgroup service to be inferior to that of Mindspring’s, and I fear the worst — that a transformation to the "Earthlink way" is in process. I hope not.) Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing up on my news server this afternoon. Now, I understand that these things have to "propogate" (whatever that is — actually, I think I have a vague understanding of it) until they finally get to my news server. But that never used to take so long. So my question is this: is it my service? Or could it be his service? Or could it be any one of a gazillion services between his and mine that kept his posts from showing up for two days? I’ll never fully get my arms around this whole internet/usenet thing, and this is just such an area that, while I think I understand conceptually how it works, the nuts and bolts of how something like this could happen have always baffled me. Can someone explain? — Randy Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"
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He’s one of the biggest hypocritical stirrers you could imagine. Highly manipulative and abusive too. And one of the grouip here who think they own the joint and generally treat people like cr*p. Tit for tat.
What is a "tat?"
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how is it that you cannot, or will not, see what crap you post
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seeing as I’m being smeared again by your lot, I’ll point out to you what you’d undoubtedly suggest to others outside your clique, that this is off-topic and should be posted to one of the relevant newsgroups. This is a golf discussion group, not an exclusive club for old-guarders and those who have met at events in North America. Thank you. — F.
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as we say in the biz it’s "P.F.M"
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s magic. Just go with it. :-) ___ o ’ | / . "Someone likes every shot" bk
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push people around and they’ll push back – not the best way forward.
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I have the same problem Randy. My news-server runs about 4 hours late all of a sudden. Sometimes 8 hours late. Last week they were about 24 hours late. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For years I’ve been fortunate to have been a subscriber to one of the most reliable internet services there is — Mindspring, which, unfortunately, got gobbled up about a year ago by Earthlink, which also had a good reputation, but frankly, I always thought was a notch below. Anyway, I’ve continued to be satisfied with my service. Still am. However, in recent weeks, I’ve noticed some newsgroup posts seem to be late in showing up on my news server. (When I briefly subscribed to Earthlink before the merger, I found their newsgroup service to be inferior to that of Mindspring’s, and I fear the worst — that a transformation to the "Earthlink way" is in process. I hope not.) Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing up on my news server this afternoon. Now, I understand that these things have to "propogate" (whatever that is — actually, I think I have a vague understanding of it) until they finally get to my news server. But that never used to take so long. So my question is this: is it my service? Or could it be his service? Or could it be any one of a gazillion services between his and mine that kept his posts from showing up for two days? I’ll never fully get my arms around this whole internet/usenet thing, and this is just such an area that, while I think I understand conceptually how it works, the nuts and bolts of how something like this could happen have always baffled me. Can someone explain? — Randy Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"
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articulated: the joint and generally treat people like cr*p. Tit for tat. What is a "tat?"
As F said … a "tat" is what you get if you have a ‘tit’ and a joint and generally treat people like cr*p. Hope that explains things?. On-topic … Going south (FL) next week for some golf. John … aka Dad
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Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing up on my news server this afternoon.
I saw the same thing, Randy. I’ve had similar things happen to me when I logged off ( or had a dropped carrier) a dialup service before my outbox was empty. The next time you log in, your outbox gets emptied. I’ve always assumed that the time&date on the usenet servers reflected the time&date in the header of the message you create. I’ve actually seen gaps of a week or so. My assumption anyway. May your next round be your best round. Dave Please: no spam, off topic, or crossposts as explained in the RSG FAQ: at http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html
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He’s one of the biggest hypocritical stirrers you could imagine. Highly manipulative and abusive too. And one of the grouip here who think they own the joint and generally treat people like cr*p. Tit for tat.
AFAICS, Felicity, your tit for tat is not balanced. Randy treats you like crap. You treat *everybody* like crap, well, maybe not everybody … just those who disagree with you about *anything*. From what I can tell, Randy and George get along better than you and (pick any name you choose, except George.) You just don’t try. You seem to view social interaction as cut-throat competition to be won at *any* cost. May your next round be your best round. Dave Please: no spam, off topic, or crossposts as explained in the RSG FAQ: at http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html
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He’s one of the biggest hypocritical stirrers you could imagine. Highly manipulative and abusive too. And one of the grouip here who think they own the joint and generally treat people like cr*p. Tit for tat. What is a "tat?"
A better question for Trollicity is, what is a tit?
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Why do you insist on stirring the pot and trying to cause trouble? Tom K.
Tom, Please KFTB or at the very least don’t quote her dribble. Thanks, Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
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Mindspring and Earthlink are owned by Time Warner. The RoadRunner people. I fought the good fight with Time Warner on their slow news servers, and it paid off. They finally did an upgrade, and 99% of the time, things work great, and posts propagate rather quickly.
My RoadRunner news server is in Austin and they’ve had some problems. What compounds it is that the local customer service reps probably grew up on AOL/WWW and don’t have a clue how news works. They’ve been doing ok lately. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
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Felicity, this is what everyone is talking about. Clearly this post was not directed towards you, neither was it about you. Yet for some reason, your hatred of men, American golfers, posters who have been posting well before your arrival, has come through yet again, clear as day. Seeing that I am one of the few who respond to your pathetic posts, you must be on everyone’s killfile list. Its been getting lonely hasn’t it? It must feel pretty empty posting here 2 or 3 dozen times a day, yet only have one or two respond. I think you deserve the same rank on my account. See you later beitch.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seeing as I’m being smeared again by your lot, I’ll point out to you what you’d undoubtedly suggest to others outside your clique, that this is off-topic and should be posted to one of the relevant newsgroups. This is a golf discussion group, not an exclusive club for old-guarders and those who have met at events in North America. Thank you. — F. For years I’ve been fortunate to have been a subscriber to one of the most reliable internet services there is — Mindspring, which, unfortunately, got gobbled up about a year ago by Earthlink, which also had a good reputation, but frankly, I always thought was a notch below. Anyway, I’ve continued to be satisfied with my service. Still am. However, in recent weeks, I’ve noticed some newsgroup posts seem to be late in showing up on my news server. (When I briefly subscribed to Earthlink before the merger, I found their newsgroup service to be inferior to that of Mindspring’s, and I fear the worst — that a transformation to the "Earthlink way" is in process. I hope not.) Anyway, just today, I noticed a couple of Mark Koenig’s posts were just today showing up. I thought he’d just returned today, until I noticed that the date of his posts were 1/1 (two days ago). But they’re just now showing up on my news server this afternoon. Now, I understand that these things have to "propogate" (whatever that is — actually, I think I have a vague understanding of it) until they finally get to my news server. But that never used to take so long. So my question is this: is it my service? Or could it be his service? Or could it be any one of a gazillion services between his and mine that kept his posts from showing up for two days? I’ll never fully get my arms around this whole internet/usenet thing, and this is just such an area that, while I think I understand conceptually how it works, the nuts and bolts of how something like this could happen have always baffled me. Can someone explain? — Randy Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"
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Felicity, this is what everyone is talking about. Clearly this post was not directed towards you, neither was it about you. Yet for some reason, your hatred of men, American golfers, posters who have been posting well before your arrival, has come through yet again, clear as day. Seeing that I am one of the few who respond to your pathetic posts, you must be on everyone’s killfile list. Its been getting lonely hasn’t it? It must feel pretty empty posting here 2 or 3 dozen times a day, yet only have one or two respond. I think you deserve the same rank on my account. See you later beitch.
Now, if we can get those other two who haven’t kill filed her to do so, no one will ever see any of her posts, original or reposted. ___ o ’ | / . "Someone likes every shot" bk
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Seeing that I am one of the few who respond to your pathetic posts, you must be on everyone’s killfile list.
Join us Dan!!! Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX KFTB http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm