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Anyone tried this product, and if so, did it help? Greg
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Anyone tried this product, and if so, did it help?
Interesting you should bring this up. I have a picture of the SLAP model at the same point in the back and downswing and I will use it to demonstrate the principle behind Leadbetter’s Lazer Guide. David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor Contributor of spam free golf advice
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Go to Radio Shack and buy a lazer pointer and tape it to your club…. me
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I am curious to see what you come up with on this comparison. Because: I believe that SLAP and TGM advocate the low point of the plane to be on the ball to target line. However in Ledbetter’s published materials and in the advertisements on TV, Ledbetter has advocated that the plane and the LaserGuide be steeper at the 1/2 way back and 1/2 way down position..–( Between ball-line and toes). I had a very difficult time trying to do that. Note that Els, Price, Faldo all have this steep position at 1/2 way back. My own opinion ( guess) is that this is because Led works primarily with very strong PGA Pros and special ameteurs who are able to make a big lower body move which tends to ‘flatten’ the plane.. Either way I like the product–but I think Led teaches a very steep shaft. Brad – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone tried this product, and if so, did it help? Interesting you should bring this up. I have a picture of the SLAP model at the same point in the back and downswing and I will use it to demonstrate the principle behind Leadbetter’s Lazer Guide. David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor Contributor of spam free golf advice
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My understanding of the product is that it’s principle purpose is to have you go to work, earn an income, and then direct some portion of that income towards Mr. Leadbetter and his associates. Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone tried this product, and if so, did it help? Greg
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Leadbetters toy is over priced. You can make one yourself from the toys for little of nothing. dsc
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone tried this product, and if so, did it help? Interesting you should bring this up. I have a picture of the SLAP model at the same point in the back and downswing and I will use it to demonstrate the principle behind Leadbetter’s Lazer Guide. David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor Contributor of spam free golf advice
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I am curious to see what you come up with on this comparison. Because: I believe that SLAP and TGM advocate the low point of the plane to be on the ball to target line. However in Ledbetter’s published materials and in the advertisements on TV, Ledbetter has advocated that the plane and the LaserGuide be steeper at the 1/2 way back and 1/2 way down position..–( Between ball-line and toes). I had a very difficult time trying to do that. Note that Els, Price, Faldo all have this steep position at 1/2 way back. My own opinion ( guess) is that this is because Led works primarily with very strong PGA Pros and special ameteurs who are able to make a big lower body move which tends to ‘flatten’ the plane.. Either way I like the product–but I think Led teaches a very steep shaft.
Opps, hope I didn’t give you the wrong impression about what I was going to show. As both you and I know when you swing on plane the Lazer Guide should point at the target line. However, Leadbetter has you pointing the Lazer at a line outside the target line and the model shows why. It’s all very simple but may help those a little confused about why Leadbetter has you doing something that goes again what they’ve probably been taught. David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor Contributor of spam free golf advice
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And I hope I didn’t speak unclearly. In Led’s book The Golf Swing, he advocates the butt end–at the 1/2 way back position, to point mid-way between the toes and the target line. This would seem to be off the plane you or SLAP advocate–and steep. When I saw a LaserGuide commercial the ‘track’ they have you put on the ground shows the same thing–they ask you to get the shaft more verticle than pointing at the target line, to trace the line to the inside—-so Led is Consistant. So what I was curious to see is if you agree with Led’s positiong, or if you believe the student is better off with LaserGuide tracing the ball-to-target-line–like I believe SLAP advocates. No need to respond here, I’ll look for the post when you do it. Brad – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Opps, hope I didn’t give you the wrong impression about what I was going to show. As both you and I know when you swing on plane the Lazer Guide should point at the target line. However, Leadbetter has you pointing the Lazer at a line outside the target line and the model shows why. It’s all very simple but may help those a little confused about why Leadbetter has you doing something that goes again what they’ve probably been taught. David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor Contributor of spam free golf advice
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My understanding of the product is that it’s principle purpose is to have you go to work, earn an income, and then direct some portion of that income towards Mr. Leadbetter and his associates.
And now Rush gets a cut. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/claryd.htm
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Go to Radio Shack and buy a lazer pointer and tape it to your club….
Come on now – if it costs more it must be better. Besides it has his name on it. Would you buy a Gucci bag without the name?
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Anyone tried this product, and if so, did it help? Greg
A ball retriever can be used to do the same thing. It can be extended so that either end will almost touch the ground when used like a golf club. It has the advantage of being free, and it is not restricted to low light conditions. All lasers products fade in bright sun. Zig
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In Led’s book The Golf Swing, he advocates the butt end–at the 1/2 way back position, to point mid-way between the toes and the target line. This would seem to be off the plane you or SLAP advocate–and steep.
Also Haney who says it should be on a plane parallel to the original. Leadbetter claims it doesn’t get onto a parallel plane until the downswing. When I saw a LaserGuide commercial the ‘track’ they have you put on the ground shows the same thing–they ask you to get the shaft more verticle than pointing at the target line, to trace the line to the inside—-so Led is Consistant.
I haven’t seen this in the commercials, only the downswing drill. So what I was curious to see is if you agree with Led’s positiong, or if you believe the student is better off with LaserGuide tracing the ball-to-target-line–like I believe SLAP advocates. No need to respond here, I’ll look for the post when you do it.
I can show you many people who trace the target line and Leadbetter can probably show just as many people who trace the line on his matt. The point is there is so many people doing it both ways successfully that you can say either way is right. David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor Contributor of spam free golf advice
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Exactly, yes. I believe he teaches this because he believes an athletic lower body move tends to flatten the plane back to parallel. Led’s studnts like Price, Els, and Faldo make this move. Not sure if this is good advice for week-end recreational players. Brad – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Leadbetter claims it doesn’t get onto a parallel plane until the downswing. David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor Contributor of spam free golf advice