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What is this ? Who elected R&B sheriff ? Even if I don’t agree with Ken, and I don’t, he shouldn’t be handcuffed and led away by these self = appointed net cops. Sheesh.
Nah…no sheriffs here…Just a voluntary vigilance comittee… Which KEN shouldn’t need explained to HIM at all… Break enough rules…Piss enough people off…We go get a rope… (very low TAX overhead too!) (g) ]]]Z[[[
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If you consider "real" par fours as anything over about 430 or 440, you might be right.
A REAL par 4 is about 380 yard dogleg that can't be cut off. The fairway slopes to one side left to right is best!) into a water hazard or OB. You HAVE to lay up about 220. Not 200, not 240, but 220, leaving 160 to a green with a bail out area on one side, and anything else but on the green is dead. Rob
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If you consider "real" par fours as anything over about 430 or 440, you might be right. A REAL par 4 is about 380 yard dogleg that can't be cut off. The fairway slopes to one side left to right is best!) into a water hazard or OB. You HAVE to lay up about 220. Not 200, not 240, but 220, leaving 160 to a green with a bail out area on one side, and anything else but on the green is dead.
While driving a friend to my course for his first round there we passed the 18th hole, a 290 yard par 4. He said "what kind of chickens*** finishing hole is that"? I suggested that he try to par it. It's slightly uphill and can't be called a dogleg because you can see the front of the green from the tee, but it slants to the right. OB left, trees right. There's a series of traps lining the last 40 yards on the left of the fairway before the green, and a big trap guarding greenside right. If you don't land the ball on the right side of the green it will invariably go over, and up a hill with an impossible chip and put. Long is OB...the clubhouse. The landing area is about 215 and is 20 yards wide. My friend triple bogied it. "Someone likes every shot" bk Charter Member RSG Clique
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- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - If you consider "real" par fours as anything over about 430 or 440, you might be right. A REAL par 4 is about 380 yard dogleg that can't be cut off. The fairway slopes to one side left to right is best!) into a water hazard or OB. You HAVE to lay up about 220. Not 200, not 240, but 220, leaving 160 to a green with a bail out area on one side, and anything else but on the green is dead. Furthermore, the green slopes severely from back to front, the pin location is 9 feet from the front, just on a ridge, and there's a creek barely in front of the green which prevents a reasonable effort at laying up just in front of the green below the hole. And the wind is in your face.
And the _fairways_ stimp at 10.0...the greens at 13.0. Bruce RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/newmanb.htm http://go.to/bruce_newman
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This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again.
Hell No...Lets impeach the SOBs...!!! (g)... These are sad times for our Republic.
Well, for our Republicans anyway. Anyway you cut it, it was a very close election...You're right that Gore will win it...But it will be due to the true will of the people and a fair and correct count of their votes...Anyone who has a problem with that ought to just pack up and leave... We all know golfers who fudge their scores...anybody want to let them run the tournament? ]]]Z[[[
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Who the hell is Gore
Rob wrote Gore invented golf.
Now Now, That's not right at all...He just insisted on putting being added to the game. (g) ]]]Z[[[
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Who the hell is Gore Rob wrote Gore invented golf.
Yeah and Bush (ex-prez) invented the Shrub, which is what you get if the R's win. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -Now Now, That's not right at all...He just insisted on putting being added to the game. (g) ]]]Z[[[
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What is this ? Who elected R&B sheriff ? Even if I don't agree with Ken, and I don't, he shouldn't be handcuffed and led away by these self=appointed net cops. Sheesh. Tommy Anderson, Jr. (Heeeeee's baaaaaack !!) - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Funny how "playing by the rules" seems to be such a big issue to you, Ken, and yet you violate them with each passing day. Above the law? Only Ken rates that, evidently. Randy Here are the message headers. Go to work, people. Path: mindspring!news.mindspring.net!howland.erols.net!nntp.flash.net!news.flash . n et!not-for-mail Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.215.75.176 CST) Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Xref: mindspring rec.sport.golf:423808 The all Democrat Florida Supreme Court has given license to these all Democrat county election officials to rig the count now. They know that Bush has a 900+ vote lead. They can esitmate a maximum of another 500 that Bush would pick up from the disputed 1400 overseas absentee ballots (70% to 30% app). So, all they have to do is gain 1500 votes in the recount and they are home free. This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again. The Rule of Law has no meaning to these power mongers. The only good news is that Gore got no mandate out of this and whenever he attempts to implement one of his Socialist programs, he is sure to be met by the same resistance that we saw when Hillary attempted to cram Socialized Medicine down our throats in 1993. These are sad times for our Republic. Ken
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Tommy Anderson, Jr. (Heeeeee's baaaaaack !!)
Yep, he's back. Now, where is that filter key? "Someone likes every shot" bk Charter Member RSG Clique
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What is this ? Who elected R&B sheriff ? Even if I don't agree with Ken, and I don't, he shouldn't be handcuffed and led away by these self=appointed net cops. Sheesh. Tommy Anderson, Jr. (Heeeeee's baaaaaack !!)
Nobody named me sherrif, Tommy. I was merely making it more convenient for those wishing to report what is clearly a violation of Flash.Net's TOS. Let me get this straight -- are you advocating that we open up RSG to partisan politicing which has nothing whatsoever to do with golf? That will be a hard position to defend. Randy
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Well just in case you haven't notice RB, there is a big long thread of other "golfers" who are replying and getting a lot more than a little political themselves. So when are you going to sic your buddies on them too, RB ? Whats up with that ? OK for some but not for others ? And as far as it looks to me you ARE trying to play cop by directing other participants here on where to go to file formal complaints against another participant. Pardon, but as they say in some political circles, your partisanship is showing. Now, back to the game of golf, what say ? Tommy Anderson, Jr. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - What is this ? Who elected R&B sheriff ? Even if I don't agree with Ken, and I don't, he shouldn't be handcuffed and led away by these self=appointed net cops. Sheesh. Tommy Anderson, Jr. (Heeeeee's baaaaaack !!) Nobody named me sherrif, Tommy. I was merely making it more convenient for those wishing to report what is clearly a violation of Flash.Net's TOS. Let me get this straight -- are you advocating that we open up RSG to partisan politicing which has nothing whatsoever to do with golf? That will be a hard position to defend. Randy
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He's more strident than me. And as sanctimonious as Newman. He actually thinks all conservatives are evil. And he's trying to appear virtuous with his "off-topic" rant.
Oh please. Spare us. As sanctimonious goes, you've taken it to new levels. Truth I have observed about Randy. Short knocker.
Have I ever suggested otherwise? I wear it as something of a badge of honor. I can hit 7iron as far as he hits driver.
What is this nonsense? My dick's bigger than yours? Why don't you try behaving like an adult for a change. Get him on a course with real par4's and he won't get to any of them.
If you consider "real" par fours as anything over about 430 or 440, you might be right. But what, exactly, does this prove, sir? Wanna arm wrestle? See who can spit the farthest? How 'bout maybe a round of golf. (Oops, you already lost that one...) Tell ya what, let's see who can hold their breath the longest. Ready? Go... Hold it... Hold it... Keeping holding your breath... If he didn't have a sharp short game, he'd never break 90 at more than 6500 yds.
Depends on what kind of day I'm having. (Keep holding it...) But there's no doubt that without my short game, I wouldn't score as well as I do. I've never suggested otherwise. But you're exaggerating just a little. Keep holding your breath... [snipped political BS] Randy Keep holding your breath… (I’ll check back with you later. Meantime, keep holding your breath…)
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If you consider "real" par fours as anything over about 430 or 440, you might be right. A REAL par 4 is about 380 yard dogleg that can’t be cut off. The fairway slopes to one side left to right is best!) into a water hazard or OB. You HAVE to lay up about 220. Not 200, not 240, but 220, leaving 160 to a green with a bail out area on one side, and anything else but on the green is dead.
Furthermore, the green slopes severely from back to front, the pin location is 9 feet from the front, just on a ridge, and there’s a creek barely in front of the green which prevents a reasonable effort at laying up just in front of the green below the hole. And the wind is in your face. Mike Mike Dalecki–Charter Member, RSG Clique I do not patronize spammers! Help keep RSG clean. Expect the same etiquette from me on RSG as on the golf course. RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/daleckim.htm
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He’s more strident than me. And as sanctimonious as Newman. He actually thinks all conservatives are evil. And he’s trying to appear virtuous with his "off-topic" rant. Truth I have observed about Randy. Short knocker. I can hit 7iron as far as he hits driver. Get him on a course with real par4’s and he won’t get to any of them. If he didn’t have a sharp short game, he’d never break 90 at more than 6500 yds. Also, he seems to think it’s fine that our govt never retires any program once it takes root and it’s also fine that many of our citizens see half their income go to taxes. A true condescending, arrogant liberal in the SaintHillary mode. We’ve got to have some real standards after that ruling in PalmBeach Co today. But, at least they got one right in Miami Dade county. Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well just in case you haven’t notice RB, there is a big long thread of other "golfers" who are replying and getting a lot more than a little political themselves. So when are you going to sic your buddies on them too, RB ? Whats up with that ? OK for some but not for others ? And as far as it looks to me you ARE trying to play cop by directing other participants here on where to go to file formal complaints against another participant. Pardon, but as they say in some political circles, your partisanship is showing. Now, back to the game of golf, what say ? Tommy Anderson, Jr. What is this ? Who elected R&B sheriff ? Even if I don’t agree with Ken, and I don’t, he shouldn’t be handcuffed and led away by these self=appointed net cops. Sheesh. Tommy Anderson, Jr. (Heeeeee’s baaaaaack !!) Nobody named me sherrif, Tommy. I was merely making it more convenient for those wishing to report what is clearly a violation of Flash.Net’s TOS. Let me get this straight — are you advocating that we open up RSG to partisan politicing which has nothing whatsoever to do with golf? That will be a hard position to defend. Randy
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I’m not sanctimonious, Ken. Let’s just call a spade a spade: you made a big blunder by posting all your political rhetoric in a golf newsgroup. By assaulting me, you hope to divert attention. I did nothing wrong…other than calling it as I saw it, I suppose. You are posting inapporpriately to this newsgroup. You cantinue to violate the charter and FAQ. You do so blatantly with absolute disregard for anyone here. You reply with your arrogant (and typical) "Sue me!". You use profanity to attack me. Face it, Ken, you are simply wrong. Swear at me all you want, but I didn’t do it. You did. Please stop this nonsense and discuss golf. I have advised your ISP of your abuse several times and pointed them to their own Terms of Service, of which you are in violation on several counts. Bruce – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – He’s more strident than me. And as sanctimonious as Newman. He actually thinks all conservatives are evil. And he’s trying to appear virtuous with his "off-topic" rant. Truth I have observed about Randy. Short knocker. I can hit 7iron as far as he hits driver. Get him on a course with real par4’s and he won’t get to any of them. If he didn’t have a sharp short game, he’d never break 90 at more than 6500 yds. Also, he seems to think it’s fine that our govt never retires any program once it takes root and it’s also fine that many of our citizens see half their income go to taxes. A true condescending, arrogant liberal in the SaintHillary mode. We’ve got to have some real standards after that ruling in PalmBeach Co today. But, at least they got one right in Miami Dade county. Ken
RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/newmanb.htm http://go.to/bruce_newman
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cut this off topic crap, please — Fernando
(snip OT crap)
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Funny how "playing by the rules" seems to be such a big issue to you, Ken, and yet you violate them with each passing day. Above the law? Only Ken rates that, evidently. Randy Here are the message headers. Go to work, people. Path: mindspring!news.mindspring.net!howland.erols.net!nntp.flash.net!news.flash. n et!not-for-mail Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.215.75.176 CST) Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Xref: mindspring rec.sport.golf:423808
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The all Democrat Florida Supreme Court has given license to these all Democrat county election officials to rig the count now. They know that Bush has a 900+ vote lead. They can esitmate a maximum of another 500 that Bush would pick up from the disputed 1400 overseas absentee ballots (70% to 30% app). So, all they have to do is gain 1500 votes in the recount and they are home free. This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again. The Rule of Law has no meaning to these power mongers. The only good news is that Gore got no mandate out of this and whenever he attempts to implement one of his Socialist programs, he is sure to be met by the same resistance that we saw when Hillary attempted to cram Socialized Medicine down our throats in 1993. These are sad times for our Republic. Ken
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The all Democrat Florida Supreme Court has given license to these all Democrat county election officials to rig the count now. They know that Bush has a 900+ vote lead. They can esitmate a maximum of another 500 that Bush would pick up from the disputed 1400 overseas absentee ballots (70% to 30% app). So, all they have to do is gain 1500 votes in the recount and they are home free. This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again. The Rule of Law has no meaning to these power mongers. The only good news is that Gore got no mandate out of this and whenever he attempts to implement one of his Socialist programs, he is sure to be met by the same resistance that we saw when Hillary attempted to cram Socialized Medicine down our throats in 1993. These are sad times for our Republic. Ken
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Who the hell is Gore and Bush, is this to do with golf. Surely your golf swing is far more important. Andy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The all Democrat Florida Supreme Court has given license to these all Democrat county election officials to rig the count now. They know that Bush has a 900+ vote lead. They can esitmate a maximum of another 500 that Bush would pick up from the disputed 1400 overseas absentee ballots (70% to 30% app). So, all they have to do is gain 1500 votes in the recount and they are home free. This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again. The Rule of Law has no meaning to these power mongers. The only good news is that Gore got no mandate out of this and whenever he attempts to implement one of his Socialist programs, he is sure to be met by the same resistance that we saw when Hillary attempted to cram Socialized Medicine down our throats in 1993. These are sad times for our Republic. Ken
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Do you even read what you write? You complain of the decision of "all Democrat Fla Supreme Court" [which it isn't] and follow that with "The Rule of Law has no meaning for these power mongers." How can you voluntarily appear so stupid?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The all Democrat Florida Supreme Court has given license to these all Democrat county election officials to rig the count now. They know that Bush has a 900+ vote lead. They can esitmate a maximum of another 500 that Bush would pick up from the disputed 1400 overseas absentee ballots (70% to 30% app). So, all they have to do is gain 1500 votes in the recount and they are home free. This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again. The Rule of Law has no meaning to these power mongers. The only good news is that Gore got no mandate out of this and whenever he attempts to implement one of his Socialist programs, he is sure to be met by the same resistance that we saw when Hillary attempted to cram Socialized Medicine down our throats in 1993. These are sad times for our Republic. Ken
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Who the hell is Gore and Bush, is this to do with golf. Surely your golf swing is far more important. Andy The all Democrat Florida Supreme Court has given license to these all Democrat county election officials to rig the count now. They know that Bush has a 900+ vote lead. They can esitmate a maximum of another 500 that Bush would pick up from the disputed 1400 overseas absentee ballots (70% to 30% app). So, all they have to do is gain 1500 votes in the recount and they are home free. This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again. The Rule of Law has no meaning to these power mongers. The only good news is that Gore got no mandate out of this and whenever he attempts to implement one of his Socialist programs, he is sure to be met by the same resistance that we saw when Hillary attempted to cram Socialized Medicine down our throats in 1993. These are sad times for our Republic. Ken
Gore invented golf. Rob — RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/hamiltonr.htm Charter Member, RSG Clique
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The all Democrat Florida Supreme Court has given license to these all Democrat county election officials to rig the count now. They know that Bush has a 900+ vote lead. They can esitmate a maximum of another 500 that Bush would pick up from the disputed 1400 overseas absentee ballots (70% to 30% app). So, all they have to do is gain 1500 votes in the recount and they are home free. This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again. The Rule of Law has no meaning to these power mongers. The only good news is that Gore got no mandate out of this and whenever he attempts to implement one of his Socialist programs, he is sure to be met by the same resistance that we saw when Hillary attempted to cram Socialized Medicine down our throats in 1993. These are sad times for our Republic. Ken
i understand that there are times that the "politic" will be discussed in the "19th hole" that is RSG. But could you preface your subject line with an OT(off topic). bud remember no good deed ever goes unpunished "Nemo me impune lacessit" Before you buy.
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Who the hell is Gore and Bush, is this to do with golf.
Actually it does. If Gore becomes President he’s going to fix everything, including slow play and slicing problems. David Laville Charter Member, RSG Clique
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The all Democrat Florida Supreme Court has given license to these all Democrat county election officials to rig the count now. They know that Bush has a 900+ vote lead. They can esitmate a maximum of another 500 that Bush would pick up from the disputed 1400 overseas absentee ballots (70% to 30% app). So, all they have to do is gain 1500 votes in the recount and they are home free. This is clearly corrupt and a national disgrace. But, disgrace is the specialty of Democrats and of this crowd. We are going to stand by and let the Clintonites do it to us again. The Rule of Law has no meaning to these power mongers. The only good news is that Gore got no mandate out of this and whenever he attempts to implement one of his Socialist programs, he is sure to be met by the same resistance that we saw when Hillary attempted to cram Socialized Medicine down our throats in 1993. These are sad times for our Republic.
is apparently not enforcing their own Terms of Service policies. I’ll need to go upstream, I guess. Bruce RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/newmanb.htm http://go.to/bruce_newman
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Do you even read what you write? You complain of the decision of "all Democrat Fla Supreme Court" [which it isn't]
Correct, it’s 6 Democrats and 1 Independent. David Laville Charter Member, RSG Clique