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All of the books say to aim the club face at the target and then close youe stance. Are you supposed to regrip the club the same as when you play a bunker shot?
Yes. David Laville, G.S.E.M. Authorized Instructor Of The Golfing Machine
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I still want to know: do I regrip the club with the face closed or do I just aim the club face at the target with my normal grip and then close my stance? Hank
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I still want to know: do I regrip the club with the face closed or do I just aim the club face at the target with my normal grip and then close my stance? Hank
Yes, you regrip the club with the face closed. You aim a bit more to the right for the initial trajectory because the ball STARTS more to the left. And then on top of that your ball will also CURVE more to the left. And it will fly lower. So if you have a tree on the left, for example, you have to make sure that your initial line of flight is far enough to the right of it, and then after it passes the tree, your curvature will bring the ball back. I used to make the mistake of hitting the tree, not realizing that the closed clubface also started the ball more left than I was used to. The newer clubs with heel-toe weighting do not curve the ball as easily as "blades" and persimmon woods. Handling draws and fades with your clubs is something you will want to experiment with on the range… Good luck. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Ball trajectory is controllable by changing grip alone Only for hitters. Swingers adjust the plane line which alters the angle of approach and roll of the #3 accumulator.
You make my point.!!! George continue for more doubletalk: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you want to talk about altitude trajectory changing the grip has nothing to do with it. Changing the ball position alters the angle of attack and altitude. The hinge action you use through impact will also affect it, horizontal hinging will produce the lowest flight, vertical the highest. David Laville, G.S.E.M. Authorized Instructor Of The Golfing Machine
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Ball trajectory is controllable by changing grip alone Only for hitters. Swingers adjust the plane line which alters the angle of approach and roll of the #3 accumulator. If you want to talk about altitude trajectory changing the grip has nothing to do with it. Changing the ball position alters the angle of attack and altitude. The hinge action you use through impact will also affect it, horizontal hinging will produce the lowest flight, vertical the highest.
Are you including the "hooding" of the clubface which results from this approach to setting up for a draw in your definition of changing the grip here? Must not be, because this certainly changes the altitude trajectory. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – David Laville, G.S.E.M. Authorized Instructor Of The Golfing Machine
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Aim the club where you want the ball to end up and your body where you want the shot to start out. Matt
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(snip) Easier. Manipulation of the "swing" is not something easy until you have developed a lot of facility and naturalness.. George Hibbard www.perfectimpact.com
Nice suggestions. Strengthening the grip has helped me a lot and on the basis of what you suggest I will experiment with stance and clubface. Where I have the most problem with this shot is in the mind. If I don’t really watch it I’ll do everything else correctly then unconsciously try to move the ball around the tree to the right and what I do then is hit the tree. BH
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Thanks everyone for your help.All the books say to aim the club at the target and close your stancebut they always leave out whether or not to regrip the club.Now I know.We are supposed to get fifty degree weather the next few days ,when the snow is gone I will try out the draw. Hank Swanson
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<< I still want to know: do I regrip the club with the face closed or do I just aim the club face at the target with my normal grip and then close my stance? Hank You have a choice,(as is most golf shots). Either of the things you mentioned should produce a draw. Doing both at the same time will probably produce a hook. Remember little changes produce big differences when it comes to a golf swing. Phil
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Ball trajectory is controllable by changing grip alone
Only for hitters. Swingers adjust the plane line which alters the angle of approach and roll of the #3 accumulator. If you want to talk about altitude trajectory changing the grip has nothing to do with it. Changing the ball position alters the angle of attack and altitude. The hinge action you use through impact will also affect it, horizontal hinging will produce the lowest flight, vertical the highest. David Laville, G.S.E.M. Authorized Instructor Of The Golfing Machine
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Also stand a little bit farther from the ball, this way you will be sweeping in to out when you hit the ball. If you stand too close you might cut across out to in and then you will pull it badly. Often players end up a bit too close when they close their stance. Your hands should be in the same position as normal, relative to your body, but the clubface should be slightly closed. Keep it slight or you will hit a snap hook. All of the books say to aim the club face at the target and then close youe stance. Are you supposed to regrip the club the same as when you play a bunker shot?
Ball trajectory is controllable by changing grip alone, and the comment above makes note of that and of the reality that you wont want to overdo it. What happens is that with a stronger grip and the identical swing as you use for straight shots, the stronger grip will hit the ball on a more leftward INITIAL trajectory as WELL as with right to left spin, and lower. So these things need to be taken into account. And vice versa: the weaker grip with the same swing will produce a more rightward initial trajectory and will ALSO curve to the right and fly higher, because the opened club is also lofted more. So the simplest way to use the variables available by a simple grip change is to set up so that the line chosen on which to swing allows for the initial trajectory difference because the clubface is not square, as well as the additional curve of the ball due to its sidespin. I would caution anyone from trying to "swing" differently — to introduce a difference that might not be so workable as you imagine. Just swing the same using a different "angle of the club in the clamp of your hands". I like to maintain the same relationship of body parts and motions to each other and vary the adjustments of the clubface relative to the hands, and the ball position, now and then, rather than vary "the swing". Easier. Manipulation of the "swing" is not something easy until you have developed a lot of facility and naturalness.. George Hibbard www.perfectimpact.com
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All of the books say to aim the club face at the target and then close youe stance. Are you supposed to regrip the club the same as when you play a bunker shot?
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Yes. Close shoulders and stance. Then with club pointed at target (closed) swing parallel to shoulders and stance. — RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/earleyd.htm
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All of the books say to aim the club face at the target and then close youe stance. Are you supposed to regrip the club the same as when you play a bunker shot?
Try this. Align your feet, hips and shoulders where you want the ball to start. Then, align your clubface where you want the ball to hit the ground. Swing normally, but … swing along your body line not the clubface to target line. Very simplistic approach to working the ball. Experiment, you’ll be surprised.
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Also stand a little bit farther from the ball, this way you will be sweeping in to out when you hit the ball. If you stand too close you might cut across out to in and then you will pull it badly. Often players end up a bit too close when they close their stance. Your hands should be in the same position as normal, relative to your body, but the clubface should be slightly closed. Keep it slight or you will hit a snap hook.
All of the books say to aim the club face at the target and then close youe stance. Are you supposed to regrip the club the same as when you play a bunker shot?