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So what exactly do you guys recommend doing? I’ve done the feet together drill many, many times, however once I go into my normal stance everything falls apart. I know the feel with my feet together but I can’t translate that to my regular stance swing.
Well, you could try widening the stance very gradually… Or, you could just play that way…
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When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart?
The feets together swing is a simpler movement. The weight shift is virtually eliminated. With the feet apart balance is better, but all sorts of backswing anomalies can be introduced (i.e. flat, no extension). I use the feet together drill to empahsize the importance of the hips in the golf swing and its similarity to other sport’s movements: Stand sideways with feet together and throw a couple of your practice balls toward the 100 yard marker (the movement should resemble a submarine pitch). Next spread your feet to shoulder length and repeat the drill. If you’ve never thrown a ball of any sort before, my apologies, but you should get an idea of where & how the driving force for your golf swing should be generated. Gray
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normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart?
You’re not shifting weight with feet together. With feet apart, you have to or it’s slice-city and short distance. — Cheers Nuno Souto
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When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart?
Practise the drill with a short iron until you sense the correct balance to hit balls without a slice. Move up thru your irons, your woods and at the very last, your driver. Starting this drill with the driver is a receipe for disaster.
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When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart?
Just for fun, I tried that myself and found that when I swing with my feet together my right wrist has to rotate over my left wrist which squares the club as it hits the ball. If my hands don’t release I lose my balance left. With a wide stance, it’s possible to keep your wrists from turning over because with a wider stance you won’t fall to the left on your follow-thru. So, as others have pointed out, one source of your slice is that you might be stopping your shoulder turn after you hit the ball. Next time you’re on the range, check your position after your swing- you should have your shoulders turned 90 degrees facing the range and not falling forward off balance. Another thing to think about is how stiff your wrists are when the club hits the ball, that’s my main swing flaw when I slice. . .
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So what exactly do you guys recommend doing? I’ve done the feet together drill many, many times, however once I go into my normal stance everything falls apart. I know the feel with my feet together but I can’t translate that to my regular stance swing. What is done differently with the feet together that prevents the club from going OTT?
You are swinging too hard. Probably looking up too! Swing with the same sense of feel as you have when you do the feet together drill. Keep the same restrictions on your sense of balance. Having your feet more apart really doesn’t allow for that much more distance, but keeping your feet together allows for no overswinging or OTT. Don’t swing so hard from the top. Start slowly and accelerate smoothly. No quick "powerful" moves, especially at the top. Rob — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )
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How far apart are your feet when you take a regular stance?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So what exactly do you guys recommend doing? I’ve done the feet together drill many, many times, however once I go into my normal stance everything falls apart. I know the feel with my feet together but I can’t translate that to my regular stance swing. What is done differently with the feet together that prevents the club from going OTT? When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart? Feet together is a good balance and OTT drill. It does not allow for overswinging and it’s almost impossible to go OTT. Work on it, on how it feels, and don’t overswing so much with your normal swing; repeat the feet together swing. You aren’t going to consistently hit the ball 250+ down the middle, so why not settle for a nice consistent 230 or so and learn how to hit the ball well (and you will find yourself hitting the ball 250+ with swings that feel like pitches!). Rob — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )
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When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart?
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When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart?
First place to look is ball position..Is it, when feet are apart, in front of the left shoulder or mid-body. Mid-body with a driver is a CAUSE of slice/push – simply due to the geometry of the swing relative to your pivot (which is on the left heel.) Put the ball out opposite your left shoulder and if you pull or draw the ball from there, move the ball further right relative to your body/stance and locate the place where its trajectory is straight. HTH George Hibbard www.perfectimpact.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart? First place to look is ball position..Is it, when feet are apart, in front of the left shoulder or mid-body. Mid-body with a driver is a CAUSE of slice/push – simply due to the geometry of the swing relative to your pivot (which is on the left heel.) Put the ball out opposite your left shoulder and if you pull or draw the ball from there, move the ball further right relative to your body/stance and locate the place where its trajectory is straight. HTH George Hibbard www.perfectimpact.com
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When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart?
Well, I can tell you what you must be doing *right* when your feet are together. (1) you have good balance, since you’d fall over otherwise, and (2) you’re making a good rotation with your body, rather than swaying back and forth — since you’d fall over otherwise. The latter thing is a killer for most slicers — they slide backwards, away from the flag, when they take the club back, then lunge forward at the ball when they swing at it. Bad. Much better is to keep your head more or less stationary and turn your body away from the ball, then turn your body "through" the ball as you hit. Focus on the things that you have to do differently when your feet are together in order to stay upright. They’re typically good things to do when your feet are apart (in fact, the only *bad* thing about swinging with your feet together is that you can’t generate as much power). Just my opinion, of course, and all caveats (I haven’t seen your swing, I’m not a terrific golfer myself, I’m not a PGA pro, etc.) apply . . . Doug — ___, Doug Massey, ASIC Digital Logic Designer o IBM Microelectronics Division, Burlington, Vermont | | Phone: (802)769-7095 t/l: 446-7095 fax: x6752 | / | . My homepage: http://doug.obscurestuff.com (|)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Huh? When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart? First place to look is ball position..Is it, when feet are apart, in front of the left shoulder or mid-body. Mid-body with a driver is a CAUSE of slice/push – simply due to the geometry of the swing relative to your pivot (which is on the left heel.) Put the ball out opposite your left shoulder and if you pull or draw the ball from there, move the ball further right relative to your body/stance and locate the place where its trajectory is straight. HTH George Hibbard www.perfectimpact.com
When you swing with a driver, the weight of your body goes to the left heel for your pivot and rotation – just as though there is a hinge running up from the ground through your left heel, knee, hip and shoulder. Like a door – the hinge is on one side of the door, and the door and its parts rotate around the hinge. The left side of your body is where your swing hinge – the pivot – of your body is located in a good golf swing (which apparently is the case when your feet are together for this.) If your ball position for the driver not opposite this hinge position – i.e., using the target line as your perspective – so that the line from the ball to your left shoulder is not perpendicular – if the ball is to the right of a line running from the left shoulder to the ball – then this hinging action or rotation of your body will not have turned around enough for the clubface to be on line. The clubface has to be open (unless you manipulate it with your hands) and the direction of the clubhead’s motion at that same time is to the right of the target. It hasn’t gotten far enough around in its arc to where the arc’s direction IS on line. By moving yourself to where the ball is more left relative to where you stand – so that the ball is closer to a point opposite your left shoulder at setup, then the arc of the swing, the hinging motion, the rotation — will then deliver the clubface square to the target and on line naturally - simply because that arc has turned more by the time the clubhead gets to the ball. GH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Yep he has that affect on many
do yourself a favor get lessons from a pro if you can. If not get some decent instruction books/ videos. My guess would be that your stance is too wide and a guess is all it is. Go Canucks Go
Rod
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So what exactly do you guys recommend doing? I’ve done the feet together drill many, many times, however once I go into my normal stance everything falls apart. I know the feel with my feet together but I can’t translate that to my regular stance swing. What is done differently with the feet together that prevents the club from going OTT?
It makes it harder to come OTT with your feet together because if you do, you’ll *really* lose your balance. Feet together makes you swing within yourself more and shortens your swing because your subconscious wants to stay in relative balance. When your feet are apart, you can get away with more OTT….which isn’t good for your golf swing, but is good enough for your subconscious equilibrium. I think feet together is a good *feel* drill. It will help you feel a better release of the clubhead with an easy swing…especially if your swinging over the top with a late release. I don’t know if it necessarily *solves* any swing problems though. I would look into having your pro video tape your swing and analyze your swing plane and weight shift. — Washington State University "That shot is impossible!…Jack Nicholson himself couldn’t make it!"– Homer Simpson
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So what exactly do you guys recommend doing? I’ve done the feet together drill many, many times, however once I go into my normal stance everything falls apart. I know the feel with my feet together but I can’t translate that to my regular stance swing. What is done differently with the feet together that prevents the club from going OTT?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart? Feet together is a good balance and OTT drill. It does not allow for overswinging and it’s almost impossible to go OTT. Work on it, on how it feels, and don’t overswing so much with your normal swing; repeat the feet together swing. You aren’t going to consistently hit the ball 250+ down the middle, so why not settle for a nice consistent 230 or so and learn how to hit the ball well (and you will find yourself hitting the ball 250+ with swings that feel like pitches!). Rob — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )
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When my feet are together in my stance and I swing my driver my drives are usually fairly straight…… not too much of a slice. When I stand with a normal stance I always, with my driver, violently slice the ball. What does the feet together position have to do with a slice? What am I doing wrong when my feet are apart?
Feet together is a good balance and OTT drill. It does not allow for overswinging and it’s almost impossible to go OTT. Work on it, on how it feels, and don’t overswing so much with your normal swing; repeat the feet together swing. You aren’t going to consistently hit the ball 250+ down the middle, so why not settle for a nice consistent 230 or so and learn how to hit the ball well (and you will find yourself hitting the ball 250+ with swings that feel like pitches!). Rob — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )
