Question:
Used to take meds like candy but have mostly cut back to glucosamine 6x/day
and pain meds only as needed instead of regularly. Are you really sure the glucosamine helps? and 6X/day!!!! David
Response:
If you have spondly-, you’ll have tight hamstrings, those need to be stretched. As far as surgery, if you undergo the knife, find the best surgeon. Do your research. And don’t hesitate to go out of state, this one operation will determine the quality of your life. The big cities are best, the surgeons get more practice. David
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I had my L5-S1 fused, and can’t notice any difference in my backswing, still bring the club way past vertical, I was hoping it would shorten my backswing, but no dice. joe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am in the army and have really fallen for the game of golf, problem is I have for the last 8 years also fallen out of airplanes for the army. This has given me a slight problem with my back in that I now have two ruptured disc and a pinched nerve. It is at the L4-L5, L5-S1 that problem exist. I have to take medicine for the pain and swelling around the nerve. I take Vioxx to help with the swelling around the nerve to reduce that shooting pain down to my ankle. I take Tylox for the pain and have been trying Ultram with Celebrex or Ultram and Vioxx. The Ultram and Vioxx or Ultram and Celebrex works fairly good but I still have to watch what I do. But anyway to the point the surgeon has said he will be fusing the vertibrae and cutting out for the nerve to keep from being pinched. I have a big rotation on my backswing. I tend to rotate all the way around and bring the club past vertical. Question is has anyone had similar surgery and how did it effect their game? SFC Scott T. Vakerics
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I had L5 S1 discetomy also about 5 -6 years ago. Feels so good I can’t remember when. Went in on crutches and danced my way out. I golfed before my surgury, but not any where as much as I do now. Just broke 40 today for the first time since I was 18. Would have broke 40 yesterday except for a triple on first hole. My advice is to find a good surgeon, if you need surgury. Mine was excellent. This operation normally takes 90 minutes. He was 4 hours making sure everything was right. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m 42, and I suffered for over 20 years with pack pain. Finally got to the point where I couldn’t stand up for more than 20 minutes at a time or both feet would go numb. Pain was horrible. thought about smoking my 9mm a few times. I tried all the meds, physical therapy, chiroprachter, even tried accupuncture. Had 2 MRI’s, a few CAT scans, dozens of Xrays, was seen by at least 10 doctors. I did everything and anything to avoid surgery. Finally, after being out of work for almost 6 months, I had to take the knife. Had L4-L5 and L5-S1 both ruptured. We decided on a discectomy, where he just goes in and leaves the ruptured disks, but cuts all the shreded parts away, and frees up the nerves. No fusion, involved, because the spinal cord is not involved, the only down side is that I’m an inch shorter than I was before I really blew the discks out. I had the procedure in the morning, and walked out of the hospital pain free in the afternoon. Walked a mile the very next day, and then the incision hurt more than my spine. Now, the really funny thing is that I took up golf after the surgery. Never swung more than a mini golf putter before. Now I’m like a crack addict for golf. Play at least 3 times a week, sometimes 36 holes a day, always walk, and even built a backyard driving range and putting green so I can practice more. Back has been 100% fine. At first I was very wary of anything too hard, now I have no fear. I trust my back more than many other joints in my body, and can’t believe I waited so long to have it done. June 1st was the third anniversary, and I shot an 87 to celabrate. Hope this was of some help. Steve
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I’m 42, and I suffered for over 20 years with pack pain. Finally got to the point where I couldn’t stand up for more than 20 minutes at a time or both feet would go numb. Pain was horrible. thought about smoking my 9mm a few times. I tried all the meds, physical therapy, chiroprachter, even tried accupuncture. Had 2 MRI’s, a few CAT scans, dozens of Xrays, was seen by at least 10 doctors. I did everything and anything to avoid surgery. Finally, after being out of work for almost 6 months, I had to take the knife. Had L4-L5 and L5-S1 both ruptured. We decided on a discectomy, where he just goes in and leaves the ruptured disks, but cuts all the shreded parts away, and frees up the nerves. No fusion, involved, because the spinal cord is not involved, the only down side is that I’m an inch shorter than I was before I really blew the discks out. I had the procedure in the morning, and walked out of the hospital pain free in the afternoon. Walked a mile the very next day, and then the incision hurt more than my spine. Now, the really funny thing is that I took up golf after the surgery. Never swung more than a mini golf putter before. Now I’m like a crack addict for golf. Play at least 3 times a week, sometimes 36 holes a day, always walk, and even built a backyard driving range and putting green so I can practice more. Back has been 100% fine. At first I was very wary of anything too hard, now I have no fear. I trust my back more than many other joints in my body, and can’t believe I waited so long to have it done. June 1st was the third anniversary, and I shot an 87 to celabrate. Hope this was of some help. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had my L5-S1 fused, and can’t notice any difference in my backswing, still bring the club way past vertical, I was hoping it would shorten my backswing, but no dice. joe I am in the army and have really fallen for the game of golf, problem is I have for the last 8 years also fallen out of airplanes for the army. This has given me a slight problem with my back in that I now have two ruptured disc and a pinched nerve. It is at the L4-L5, L5-S1 that problem exist. I have to take medicine for the pain and swelling around the nerve. I take Vioxx to help with the swelling around the nerve to reduce that shooting pain down to my ankle. I take Tylox for the pain and have been trying Ultram with Celebrex or Ultram and Vioxx. The Ultram and Vioxx or Ultram and Celebrex works fairly good but I still have to watch what I do. But anyway to the point the surgeon has said he will be fusing the vertibrae and cutting out for the nerve to keep from being pinched. I have a big rotation on my backswing. I tend to rotate all the way around and bring the club past vertical. Question is has anyone had similar surgery and how did it effect their game? SFC Scott T. Vakerics
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Response:
Correct spelling is spondylolisthesis – in my case a grade 3 at the L5-S1 joint. I have not had surgery – the last doctor told me that there was not enough bone on the L5 vertebrae to achieve a successful fusion (spina bifida on that vertebrae). The recommendation was physical therapy. That consisted of two things: stengthening muscles (lower back and abs) plus stretching. The stretching is especially helpful. My back condition is wierd – I moved to a new house last year and carried about 40 boxes of books up a flight of stairs. Each box weighed about 50 lbs. No problem for my back. But bend slightly forward (say to run a vacuum cleaner or address a ball) and I’m good for only about 30 seconds before the pain becomes intense. The stretching really does a nice job to alleviate this. But it does take dedication – for the first few weeks the muscles were resistant to stretching. However, after several weeks I can not only touch my toes, but touch my palms flat on the floor and touch my head to my knee when using a ballet bar. It wasn’t until I had this kind of flexibility that the back pain subsided. I do have to keep doing the stretches – miss a couple of days and it’s almost back to square one (although it is easy to stretch myself back to the level of flexibility I need). If you are going the surgery route, best of luck. It might be a good idea to talk with a physical therapist to see if there is a non-surgical alternative. I have looked at websites with forums on this type of surgery and some have fantastic results while others have tales of woe. —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Spondolarlothesis (spel) grade II in the same area, not as severe as yourself but doctors had also recommended a spinal fusion 20 years ago. Also damaged cartilage in both knees and right shoulder rotator. I lost weight, exercised mildly but consistently, stopped doing anything stressful like lift weights, run 3 miles/day, construction, etc, also revamped my golf swing to a senior type of swing, also early retired. So far I have avoided surgery and continue to play golf, sometimes pain free. Used to take meds like candy but have mostly cut back to glucosamine 6x/day and pain meds only as needed instead of regularly. I have learned to moderate my game and practice to put least stress on myself. I do not do full swing range practice for 1-2 days in a row and interspace my practice with short game, putting, etc. Also stretch out my games to one or two par three courses, sometimes only 9 holes, and full size courses every other week. I use a pull cart, ride on the hillier courses or depending on how my back feels may even ride a par 3 course. This past year I’ve worked with a PGA Pro to take out any abrupt motions in my swing, focus on accuracy and consistency over distance, etc. My handicap is lower than ever and I’m enjoying the game. Hope this helps others with similar "problems". Aloha, Jim I am in the army and have really fallen for the game of golf, problem is I have for the last 8 years also fallen out of airplanes for the army. This has given me a slight problem with my back in that I now have two ruptured disc and a pinched nerve. It is at the L4-L5, L5-S1 that problem exist. I have to take medicine for the pain and swelling around the nerve. I take Vioxx to help with the swelling around the nerve to reduce that shooting pain down to my ankle. I take Tylox for the pain and have been trying Ultram with Celebrex or Ultram and Vioxx. The Ultram and Vioxx or Ultram and Celebrex works fairly good but I still have to watch what I do. But anyway to the point the surgeon has said he will be fusing the vertibrae and cutting out for the nerve to keep from being pinched. I have a big rotation on my backswing. I tend to rotate all the way around and bring the club past vertical. Question is has anyone had similar surgery and how did it effect their game? SFC Scott T. Vakerics
Response:
Spondolarlothesis (spel) grade II in the same area, not as severe as yourself but doctors had also recommended a spinal fusion 20 years ago. Also damaged cartilage in both knees and right shoulder rotator. I lost weight, exercised mildly but consistently, stopped doing anything stressful like lift weights, run 3 miles/day, construction, etc, also revamped my golf swing to a senior type of swing, also early retired. So far I have avoided surgery and continue to play golf, sometimes pain free. Used to take meds like candy but have mostly cut back to glucosamine 6x/day and pain meds only as needed instead of regularly. I have learned to moderate my game and practice to put least stress on myself. I do not do full swing range practice for 1-2 days in a row and interspace my practice with short game, putting, etc. Also stretch out my games to one or two par three courses, sometimes only 9 holes, and full size courses every other week. I use a pull cart, ride on the hillier courses or depending on how my back feels may even ride a par 3 course. This past year I’ve worked with a PGA Pro to take out any abrupt motions in my swing, focus on accuracy and consistency over distance, etc. My handicap is lower than ever and I’m enjoying the game. Hope this helps others with similar "problems". Aloha, Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am in the army and have really fallen for the game of golf, problem is I have for the last 8 years also fallen out of airplanes for the army. This has given me a slight problem with my back in that I now have two ruptured disc and a pinched nerve. It is at the L4-L5, L5-S1 that problem exist. I have to take medicine for the pain and swelling around the nerve. I take Vioxx to help with the swelling around the nerve to reduce that shooting pain down to my ankle. I take Tylox for the pain and have been trying Ultram with Celebrex or Ultram and Vioxx. The Ultram and Vioxx or Ultram and Celebrex works fairly good but I still have to watch what I do. But anyway to the point the surgeon has said he will be fusing the vertibrae and cutting out for the nerve to keep from being pinched. I have a big rotation on my backswing. I tend to rotate all the way around and bring the club past vertical. Question is has anyone had similar surgery and how did it effect their game? SFC Scott T. Vakerics
Response:
I am in the army and have really fallen for the game of golf, problem is I have for the last 8 years also fallen out of airplanes for the army. This has given me a slight problem with my back in that I now have two ruptured disc and a pinched nerve. It is at the L4-L5, L5-S1 that problem exist. I have to take medicine for the pain and swelling around the nerve. I take Vioxx to help with the swelling around the nerve to reduce that shooting pain down to my ankle. I take Tylox for the pain and have been trying Ultram with Celebrex or Ultram and Vioxx. The Ultram and Vioxx or Ultram and Celebrex works fairly good but I still have to watch what I do. But anyway to the point the surgeon has said he will be fusing the vertibrae and cutting out for the nerve to keep from being pinched. I have a big rotation on my backswing. I tend to rotate all the way around and bring the club past vertical. Question is has anyone had similar surgery and how did it effect their game? SFC Scott T. Vakerics