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Body style for hitter vs. swinger

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – According to golfonline, different body types fits different swings. They actually have a test to help you find what kind of swing fits your body type. I doubt if anyone would actually change their swing simply because they body type dictates a different one. It’s good reading anyway http://www.golfonline.com/instruction/yourwaytoplay/laws/index.html IThe mainstream swing today seems to be the right-arm-tucked-close Ben Hogan swing.  Ben’s swing, considered the classic, gets taught by Ledbetter, McLain, and others on the Golf Academy.  It involves more use of arm and shoulder muscle power than the swinger style of golf swing.  Many champions used and continue to use this swing. The minority swing involves a bit bigger arc, thus the right arm rises further off the body, and needs less (some aim at zero) arm/shoulder muscle power.  Examples:  Couples, Jack N., Trevino.  David Lee’s excellent book and videos label this the gravity swing.  He might have used a different title, perhaps:  How to swing like Jack. I wonder if one’s body style should help indicate which swing style to emphasize?   I’m talking about height, weight, flexibility, time necessary to tone the golf muscles, etc. Also, wouldn’t the choice of swing style also affect somewhat the choice of instuctor, books, drills, etc? KPH

It is possible, and it is what I do — to teach so that "body type" is subsumed in the overall method or protocol.  You don’t need to know what body type you are to play baseball or walk.  You just do the things in principle that cause the bat to go around or the body to balance and propel itself forward by walking foot to foot.  YOUR OWN BODY teaches the teacher what your swing type needs to be;  WHO CARES except theoreticians and those to whom such a discussion turns on lights. If it ain’t brok,e don’t fix it.  If you don’t need to know what type AND CAN STILL SWING, "hit jus’ don’ make no neva-mind". (phrase courtesy of Dr. Word — my wife is a former leegul secketerry and does english reel gud, and I gott it frum hur!) George – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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According to golfonline, different body types fits different swings. They actually have a test to help you find what kind of swing fits your body type. I doubt if anyone would actually change their swing simply because they body type dictates a different one. It’s good reading anyway http://www.golfonline.com/instruction/yourwaytoplay/laws/index.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IThe mainstream swing today seems to be the right-arm-tucked-close Ben Hogan swing.  Ben’s swing, considered the classic, gets taught by Ledbetter, McLain, and others on the Golf Academy.  It involves more use of arm and shoulder muscle power than the swinger style of golf swing.  Many champions used and continue to use this swing. The minority swing involves a bit bigger arc, thus the right arm rises further off the body, and needs less (some aim at zero) arm/shoulder muscle power.  Examples:  Couples, Jack N., Trevino.  David Lee’s excellent book and videos label this the gravity swing.  He might have used a different title, perhaps:  How to swing like Jack.   I wonder if one’s body style should help indicate which swing style to emphasize?   I’m talking about height, weight, flexibility, time necessary to tone the golf muscles, etc. Also, wouldn’t the choice of swing style also affect somewhat the choice of instuctor, books, drills, etc? KPH

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The mainstream swing today seems to be the right-arm-tucked-close Ben Hogan swing.  Ben’s swing, considered the classic, gets taught by Ledbetter, McLain, and others on the Golf Academy.  It involves more use of arm and shoulder muscle power than the swinger style of golf swing.  Many champions used and continue to use this swing.

Whoa…I think you’re off to a bad start…AFAIK Hogan IS the classic example of a swinger (full coil, flat plane, etc) That right elbow tuck takes the arm and shoulder out of the act for most of the swing. The minority swing involves a bit bigger arc, thus the right arm rises further off the body, and needs less (some aim at zero) arm/shoulder muscle power.

This is pure Nicklaus…The right arm rise is NECESSARY to obtain a wide arc, with an upright swing…but the ARC is no bigger than the flatter Hogan style…The width of the arc is defined by the LEFT ARM and is maximised by keeping that arm straight…In a verticle swing, that’s impossible to do without pulling the left arm out and away from the body. Also notable: Nicklaus has ALWAYS sponsored the concept that you should use all your muscles and hit the ball as "Hard" as you can. Examples:  Couples, Jack N., Trevino.

Couples I don’t know much about, Travino has/had one of the most eccentric swings this side of Moe Norman and should not be used as an example of ANY particular type of swing… It appears to me that you are confusing swing plane with style. The flatter Hogan swing is perhaps easier for many people…The vertical Nicklaus style is harder to master as that free flying left elbow must be strictly controlled…But these are BOTH swinger styles. I wonder if one’s body style should help indicate which swing style to emphasize?   I’m talking about height, weight, flexibility, time necessary to tone the golf muscles, etc.

"Hitters" tend towards the UPRIGHT swing style, as it doesn’t require full (or insome cases ANY) rotation…It’s the most natural motion and is typically the way most uninstructed newbies begin trying to swing. Smaller individuals (Hogan, Toski, Annika,) usually adapt to becoming "Swingers" a little bit quicker… Also, wouldn’t the choice of swing style also affect somewhat the choice of instuctor, books, drills, etc?

I don’t know of any top level pro’s who teach "Hitting"… Many beginners will encounter local instructors who will condone their bad habits (for a fee). ]]]Z[[[

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IThe mainstream swing today seems to be the right-arm-tucked-close Ben Hogan swing.  Ben’s swing, considered the classic, gets taught by Ledbetter, McLain, and others on the Golf Academy.  It involves more use of arm and shoulder muscle power than the swinger style of golf swing.  Many champions used and continue to use this swing. The minority swing involves a bit bigger arc, thus the right arm rises further off the body, and needs less (some aim at zero) arm/shoulder muscle power.  Examples:  Couples, Jack N., Trevino.  David Lee’s excellent book and videos label this the gravity swing.  He might have used a different title, perhaps:  How to swing like Jack.   I wonder if one’s body style should help indicate which swing style to emphasize?   I’m talking about height, weight, flexibility, time necessary to tone the golf muscles, etc. Also, wouldn’t the choice of swing style also affect somewhat the choice of instuctor, books, drills, etc? KPH

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I’m a swinger. Most of my friends are hitters. What exactly do you want to know ? — Fernando

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IThe mainstream swing today seems to be the right-arm-tucked-close Ben Hogan swing.  Ben’s swing, considered the classic, gets taught by Ledbetter, McLain, and others on the Golf Academy.  It involves more use of arm and shoulder muscle power than the swinger style of golf swing.  Many champions used and continue to use this swing. The minority swing involves a bit bigger arc, thus the right arm rises further off the body, and needs less (some aim at zero) arm/shoulder muscle power.  Examples:  Couples, Jack N., Trevino.  David Lee’s excellent book and videos label this the gravity swing.  He might have used a different title, perhaps:  How to swing like Jack. I wonder if one’s body style should help indicate which swing style to emphasize?   I’m talking about height, weight, flexibility, time necessary to tone the golf muscles, etc. Also, wouldn’t the choice of swing style also affect somewhat the choice of instuctor, books, drills, etc? KPH

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