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Hasn’t anyone put together the fact that Tigers major golf equipment sponsors (Cobra and Titleist) are owned by one of the biggest tobacco products company in the world? American Brands (American Tobacco Co.) What an opportunity for American "Tob-hack-oh". They can reach the kids on the street and NOW on the course. I wonder if they have asked Tiger to light up after a good round yet. :-9 Read for yourself: From igolf archives: http://www.igolf.com/starter/stocks/news/cobrsale.html (12/18/95) American Brands, parent company of Titleist and Footjoy, announced Monday that it is buying Cobra Golf for $700 million, or $36 a share. From American Brands homepage: http://www.ambrands.com/ Cigarettes they produce: Benson and Hedges, Special Filter, Silk Cut, Berkeley, Superkings, Benson and Hedges, Superkings, Kensitas Club, Mayfair, Hamlet, Hamlet Miniatures, King Six, Condor, Clan, Mellow Virginia, Old Holborn, Amber Leaf, Samson American Brands: Tobacco vs. Golf/leisure Sales: 1995 Tobacco Sales: $6,439,000,000 Golf/Leisure Sales: 579,300,000 1996 Tobacco Sales: $6,861,000,000 Golf/Leisure Sales: $811,400,000 Tiger…..Wake up! Role model for our youth? Maybe not after all. bri…
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Hasn’t anyone put together the fact that Tigers major golf equipment sponsors (Cobra and Titleist) are owned by one of the biggest tobacco products company in the world?
Why, oh, why is it some people’s nature to try to take someone down in their moment of triumph? I truly think that’s so sad. Tiger Woods deserves our praise and admiration, not us digging through his trash in hopes of finding some dirt!
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What an opportunity for American "Tob-hack-oh". They can reach the kids on the street and NOW on the course. I wonder if they have asked Tiger to light up after a good round yet.
Hmmmm, let’s see. Tiger won’t even play Titleist’s clubs (irons or driver) and yet you think he’ll light up for endorsment purposes? Just a little doubtful…. — _____ . . ‘ . . | O// . . | _ . . | | | . Cem Cebenoyan . . . | / | . Computer Science . . . | / .| Georgia Institute of Technology . …o | "Got more funky styles than my laserjet got font" -Nick Hexum
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Hasn’t anyone put together the fact that Tigers major golf equipment sponsors (Cobra and Titleist) are owned by one of the biggest tobacco products company in the world? American Brands (American Tobacco Co.) What an opportunity for American "Tob-hack-oh". They can reach the kids on the street and NOW on the course. I wonder if they have asked Tiger to light up after a good round yet. :-9
Just check out Fluff. He’s lighting up like a chimney on the course.
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Why in the world do YOU even bring up BLACK? If you think ? Your looking at what a person can do if they put their mind to it.A person who does it with grace, and humility, a young man , that simply anyone with a brain can see is very confidant,doesn’t bother anyone in the world except any golfer who dares get in his way!
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Oh, get real! I suppose that if he were to eat Kraft Macaroni & Cheese, that would be bad too since Kraft is owned by <gasp Phillip Morris, makers of Marlboro. Likewise, if he were to eat some Nabisco cookies, that would not make him a role model since it is owned by RJR Nabisco. This effort to find stuff wrong with Tiger Woods only demeans the person writing it. I don’t think I was as mature as he was at 21! -John
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I think we are grabbing at straws here. There are so many other reasons why Tiger Woods should not be held up as a role model that the tobacco thing is silly. First, he reinforces the fact that the only way a black person can succeed is through sports. He reinforces the fact that education is less important than playing professional sports ( he quit Stanford after two years). But he is a GREAT golfer!
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: There are so many other reasons why Tiger Woods should not be held up as : a role model that the tobacco thing is silly. : : First, he reinforces the fact that the only way a black person can : succeed is through sports. He reinforces the fact that education is : less important than playing professional sports ( he quit Stanford after : two years). : Let’s think about these for a minute: 1) Would you have all black athletes quit their sports so that they don’t continue to foster the "succeed through sports" model? I would think that the better response would be to place greater emphasis, publicity, etc. on black non-athletes who are successful in their professions. 2) I don’t believe that education is less important than sports. On the other hand, if someone were to offer me $60 million or so to do what I loved, I might have a hard time turning it down, too. And he can always, if he so desires, go back later to finish. I certainly would suspect that he will be able to afford the tuition 
Don’t assume that college is always the best thing for everyone in every situation. Scott
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : There are so many other reasons why Tiger Woods should not be held up as : a role model that the tobacco thing is silly. : : First, he reinforces the fact that the only way a black person can : succeed is through sports. He reinforces the fact that education is : less important than playing professional sports ( he quit Stanford after : two years). : Let’s think about these for a minute: 1) Would you have all black athletes quit their sports so that they don’t continue to foster the "succeed through sports" model? I would think that the better response would be to place greater emphasis, publicity, etc. on black non-athletes who are successful in their professions. 2) I don’t believe that education is less important than sports. On the other hand, if someone were to offer me $60 million or so to do what I loved, I might have a hard time turning it down, too. And he can always, if he so desires, go back later to finish. I certainly would suspect that he will be able to afford the tuition Don’t assume that college is always the best thing for everyone in every situation. Scott
a. Stanford is not easy to get into. Tiger Woods is very smart and very well educated. b. Tiger is currently completing his degree requirements through correspondence courses.
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a. Stanford is not easy to get into. Tiger Woods is very smart and very well educated. b. Tiger is currently completing his degree requirements through correspondence courses. what’s he majoring in?
When he was at Stanford, he was majoring in economics, and doing quite well in a difficult program, thank you. He showed his understanding of economic timing, IMHO, by turning pro when he did. The timing of a "Tiger IPO" would never be better. :-) Sorta’ like Bill Gates deciding he understood business well enough already and dropping out of Harvard undergrad business school — also as a sophomore if I recall. History shows he was right. I hadn’t heard he was finishing via correspondence course, but I admire him even more if he is. Cheers! Dave
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I agree with you.
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] When he was at Stanford, he was majoring in economics, and doing quite ] well in a difficult program, thank you. He showed his understanding of ] economic timing, IMHO, by turning pro when he did. The timing of a ] "Tiger IPO" would never be better. :-) I was disappointed when I heard Tiger was leaving university to turn pro, even though I knew I’d probably do the same thing if that kind of money was waved under my nose. I just think that he was obviously going to be successful and the money would always be there for him, so waiting another year would not have done him any lasting harm. He could have even built the suspense a bit by picking up another amateur title. By finishing his degree he would have been a positive role model for the millions of kids that admire him but lack his talent and opportunities. Otoh, winning the Masters the way he did suggests that he probably made the right decision. Hey, might as well start collecting those majors as early as possible if he wants to catch Jack!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : There are so many other reasons why Tiger Woods should not be held up as : a role model that the tobacco thing is silly. : : First, he reinforces the fact that the only way a black person can : succeed is through sports. He reinforces the fact that education is : less important than playing professional sports ( he quit Stanford after : two years). : Let’s think about these for a minute: 1) Would you have all black athletes quit their sports so that they don’t continue to foster the "succeed through sports" model? I would think that the better response would be to place greater emphasis, publicity, etc. on black non-athletes who are successful in their professions. 2) I don’t believe that education is less important than sports. On the other hand, if someone were to offer me $60 million or so to do what I loved, I might have a hard time turning it down, too. And he can always, if he so desires, go back later to finish. I certainly would suspect that he will be able to afford the tuition Don’t assume that college is always the best thing for everyone in every situation. Scott a. Stanford is not easy to get into. Tiger Woods is very smart and very well educated. b. Tiger is currently completing his degree requirements through correspondence courses.
what’s he majoring in?
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] When he was at Stanford, he was majoring in economics, and doing quite ] well in a difficult program, thank you. He showed his understanding of ] economic timing, IMHO, by turning pro when he did. The timing of a ] "Tiger IPO" would never be better. :-) I was disappointed when I heard Tiger was leaving university to turn pro, even though I knew I’d probably do the same thing if that kind of money was waved under my nose. I just think that he was obviously going to be successful and the money would always be there for him, so waiting another year would not have done him any lasting harm. He could have even built the suspense a bit by picking up another amateur title.
I should have been more explicit about my "timing" comment. I meant that his "bonus value" had peaked. It couldn’t get much higher, and might drop. A good business economist has to recognize situations like that. Suppose he actually did win a fourth amateur? How much more could the hype and interest increase? He’s already exceeded what anybody ever did before. He’d just be adding differences of degree, not of kind. I don’t see how he could use that to increase endorsements. But the amateur championship isn’t an easy win. He’s had to come from behind each time. So it’s hardly inconceivable that he’d lose. What would THAT do to his endorsement value? Other bad things could happen. Injury. Slump. Some sort of scandal. All these "downside risks" are much greater than any "upside opportunity" from staying another year or two. By finishing his degree he would have been a positive role model for the millions of kids that admire him but lack his talent and opportunities.
I agree. But, Earl Woods’ comments to the contrary notwithstanding, Tiger is not the savior of the world. He’s an enormously talented golfer who has his entire future to look out for — and he did exactly the right thing for that. One could reasonably argue that the attention he’s getting as a pro makes him even more of a role model; you’re just asking WHAT KIND of role model. And if he gets his degree part-time by correspondence, I’d say an even more positive role model than ever. Yes, I’m impressed! Dave
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: b. Tiger is currently completing his degree requirements through : correspondence courses. : what’s he majoring in? Economics. – Young