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Anytime you’re playing golf and making five figures while doing it, it’s going to be tough to wipe that smile off your face! If I made a hole in one for 10 grand, I’d certainly have to wipe something… Wayne

LOL!!!!

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Congrats… We have a $1 Million prize for an ace at one of local tournaments. The 6 closest to the pin shots get to participate. It’s the #6, over the water par 3 at Hartfeld National, and they make ya tee it up from the back tees. I also figure if I would ever get an ace, I’d like it to be for the cool million. RJ … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John

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On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it?

No kidding.  Congrats!!  That is one wicked story.

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On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it?

Congratulations!

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There are plenty of tournaments that aren’t sanctioned by the USGA in my area.  I actually rairly play in USGA evens any more.  I used to when I played with the Junior tour.  The last tournament that was USGA sanctioned for me was the 1995 US Open regionals.  At that pointed I had a handicap index of 1.2 and figured I would give it a shot. Happy Golfing, John

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snipped Still sounds to me like you just turned pro! Rob Nope, he’s just not an amateur anymore. Just because the USGA says he’s not an amateur anymore doesn’t make him a pro. The professional associations have their own qualifying criteria and I suspect he doesn’t qualify. Certainly he won’t unless he actually joins a professional association. Right now he’s in a grey area between amateur and a pro. John, if you are interested in playing for prize money, beyond what the USGA allows, there are actual handicapped professional golf tours and if you joined you would be a real, bona fide professional golfer. :-) I believe Pepsi sponsors one in California called the Pepsi Challenge Tour. Depending on the tour, event and sponsorships, entry fees can be cheap or outrageous, with corresponding prize funds. I doubt anyone could make a living at if, if they were that good they would be able to move up. But if you enjoy playing for a real prize check, it is something to consider. If that doesn’t interest you, you can wait for a couple of years and petition the USGA to regain your amateur status. In cases like yours the petition is almost always granted, so long as you didn’t do anything else that would violate amateur standing, like applying for or playing on a professional tour. Check the USGA website for more the rules on Amateur Status: http://www.usga.org/rules/index.html — Dan Driscoll Member USGA, NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld

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There are plenty of tournaments that aren’t sanctioned by the USGA in my area.  I actually rairly play in USGA evens any more.  I used to when I played with the Junior tour.  The last tournament that was USGA sanctioned for me was the 1995 US Open regionals.  At that pointed I had a handicap index of 1.2 and figured I would give it a shot. Happy Golfing, John

The key is "USGA sanctioned", which is a lot more tournaments than just those that are directly sponsored by the USGA. I’m assuming that you belong to a club, which in turn is part of a regional association. In which case, if your club attempts to qualify a team for the regional association’s Best Ball tournament you would not be eligible, because that is a USGA sanction event. In fact, any tournament sponsored by your regional association will sanctioned by the USGA. The same is true of any inter-club competitions. So while you would probably still be eligible for events within your own club ( I think that is up to the club), you would be ineligible for any that are qualifiers for regional tournaments or include other clubs. If you don’t play in any of these, then it’s no big deal and you will probably never even notice the change in your status. But I know some guys who are really into the regional team events and they would rather pass on $10K than risk their eligibility. Me, I’m poor, SHOW ME THE MONEY! :-D BTW, if you haven’t notified your club of your winnings yet, you should do so soon, so that they can notify the regional association. — Dan Driscoll Member USGA, NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld

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Anytime you’re playing golf and making five figures while doing it, it’s going to be tough to wipe that smile off your face!

If I made a hole in one for 10 grand, I’d certainly have to wipe something… Wayne — "So It’s oppositeland!  Crooks chase cops!  Cats have puppies!"… Homer Simpson —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John

Way to go!!!!!  Enjoy the bread.   Kenny — Kenny Stultz Troll and Spam Intollerant RSG Rollcall: http://www.rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=stultzk

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Sorry, The exception got me.  The rules are not easily breezed through and understood.  It appears you are correct.  That’s alright, I’m still enjoying the cash.

John, in the interest of helping you preserve your amateur status, and being able to compete in tournaments where the top prize you can accept is $500.00, I, in a burst of compassionate humanity and largesse previously not seen in this here newsgroup hereby offer openly and without qualification to take care of $9500.00 of that prize for you. I will give it a good home, I assure you, and will only spend it on golf equipment of one sort or another.  And you, while cherishing your untrammelled amateur status, will have the assurance that your prize has found itself a worthy and honorable home. Kindly send it in small bills.  Don’t wanna alert the taxman. Sincerely, Peter Strauss Benefactor to all and sundry Do-er of good etc., etc.

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John. Please describe for us what the sentance: "The limit prescribed in Rule 3-2a applies to a prize for a hole-in-one." means. 3-2a states clearly that the prize cannot exceed $500.00. Says to me you could get $500.00 for winning an event and $500.00 for a hole in one, and that’s OK, even though you pocket $1K. Doesn’t allow for $10K though. Still sounds to me like you just turned pro!

Always nice to have more pros in r.s.g.   -joseph

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<snipped Still sounds to me like you just turned pro! Rob

Nope, he’s just not an amateur anymore. Just because the USGA says he’s not an amateur anymore doesn’t make him a pro. The professional associations have their own qualifying criteria and I suspect he doesn’t qualify. Certainly he won’t unless he actually joins a professional association. Right now he’s in a grey area between amateur and a pro. John, if you are interested in playing for prize money, beyond what the USGA allows, there are actual handicapped professional golf tours and if you joined you would be a real, bona fide professional golfer. :-) I believe Pepsi sponsors one in California called the Pepsi Challenge Tour. Depending on the tour, event and sponsorships, entry fees can be cheap or outrageous, with corresponding prize funds. I doubt anyone could make a living at if, if they were that good they would be able to move up. But if you enjoy playing for a real prize check, it is something to consider. If that doesn’t interest you, you can wait for a couple of years and petition the USGA to regain your amateur status. In cases like yours the petition is almost always granted, so long as you didn’t do anything else that would violate amateur standing, like applying for or playing on a professional tour. Check the USGA website for more the rules on Amateur Status: http://www.usga.org/rules/index.html — Dan Driscoll Member USGA, NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld

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I’ve already planned on putting 4k away for taxes.  I’ve heard of a lot of people getting in trouble because of not planning.  It is still 6k of fun money. John. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? I’ll say!  Remember what it’s going to cost you in taxes before you blow the hole wad buying drinks for everyone in the tournament.  :-) My co-worker’s brother won a $28K car once with a hole-in-one, the same tournament that he and his partner won the top prize in a Calcutta (they’d bet on themselves).  He took home some $35K in prizes for three days’ play. Anytime you’re playing golf and making five figures while doing it, it’s going to be tough to wipe that smile off your face! Congratulations, Doug —  ___,  Doug Massey, ASIC Digital Logic Designer  o    IBM Microelectronics Division, Burlington, Vermont           |   |    Phone: (802)769-7095 t/l: 446-7095 fax: x6752                |  /                                                                |    .   My homepage:  http://doug.obscurestuff.com                  (|)

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Sorry, The exception got me.  The rules are not easily breezed through and understood.  It appears you are correct.  That’s alright, I’m still enjoying the cash. Thanks, John

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – John. Please describe for us what the sentance: "The limit prescribed in Rule 3-2a applies to a prize for a hole-in-one." means. 3-2a states clearly that the prize cannot exceed $500.00. Says to me you could get $500.00 for winning an event and $500.00 for a hole in one, and that’s OK, even though you pocket $1K. Doesn’t allow for $10K though. Still sounds to me like you just turned pro! Rob "Hole in One" is an exemption for an Amateur according to the USGA rules.  I am allowed to accept the prize and remain an amateur and play in USGA events. Sorry, but you are incorrect. John Here is section 3-2 An amateur golfer must not: a. Accept a prize (including all prizes received in any one tournament or exhibition for any event, or series of events, in which golf skill is a factor) of a retail value greater than $500 (except for symbolic prizes); Exception: Hole-In-One Prizes The limit prescribed in Rule 3-2a applies to a prize for a hole-in-one. However, such a prize may be accepted in addition to any other prize won in the same competition. b. Accept a prize of money or the equivalent of money; c. Convert a prize into money; d. Accept expenses in any amount to a golf competition (except as provided in Rule 4); or e. Because of golf skill or reputation, accept in connection with any golfing event: (i) money, or (ii) anything else, other than merchandise of nominal value provided to all players. There goes your amateur status. Now you can’t play in USGA events, except the Opens. Rob On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html ) — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )

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On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it?

I’ll say!  Remember what it’s going to cost you in taxes before you blow the hole wad buying drinks for everyone in the tournament.  :-) My co-worker’s brother won a $28K car once with a hole-in-one, the same tournament that he and his partner won the top prize in a Calcutta (they’d bet on themselves).  He took home some $35K in prizes for three days’ play. Anytime you’re playing golf and making five figures while doing it, it’s going to be tough to wipe that smile off your face! Congratulations, Doug —  ___,  Doug Massey, ASIC Digital Logic Designer  o    IBM Microelectronics Division, Burlington, Vermont           |   |    Phone: (802)769-7095 t/l: 446-7095 fax: x6752                |  /                                                                |    .   My homepage:  http://doug.obscurestuff.com                  (|)

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I had guys not even in the tournament trying to get a free beer.  Suddenly I was the most popular guy on the course.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – John, did you have any cash left after buying all the other contestants, onlookers, and event staff a round? — Ron Blanchard http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=blanchardr I took the RSG 2002 Pledge to not encourage trolls "Make Golf Difficult Again."  -  Ian MacCallister On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John

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John, did you have any cash left after buying all the other contestants, onlookers, and event staff a round? — Ron Blanchard http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=blanchardr I took the RSG 2002 Pledge to not encourage trolls "Make Golf Difficult Again."  -  Ian MacCallister

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John

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John. Please describe for us what the sentance: "The limit prescribed in Rule 3-2a applies to a prize for a hole-in-one." means. 3-2a states clearly that the prize cannot exceed $500.00. Says to me you could get $500.00 for winning an event and $500.00 for a hole in one, and that’s OK, even though you pocket $1K. Doesn’t allow for $10K though. Still sounds to me like you just turned pro! Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Hole in One" is an exemption for an Amateur according to the USGA rules.  I am allowed to accept the prize and remain an amateur and play in USGA events. Sorry, but you are incorrect. John Here is section 3-2 An amateur golfer must not: a. Accept a prize (including all prizes received in any one tournament or exhibition for any event, or series of events, in which golf skill is a factor) of a retail value greater than $500 (except for symbolic prizes); Exception: Hole-In-One Prizes The limit prescribed in Rule 3-2a applies to a prize for a hole-in-one. However, such a prize may be accepted in addition to any other prize won in the same competition. b. Accept a prize of money or the equivalent of money; c. Convert a prize into money; d. Accept expenses in any amount to a golf competition (except as provided in Rule 4); or e. Because of golf skill or reputation, accept in connection with any golfing event: (i) money, or (ii) anything else, other than merchandise of nominal value provided to all players. There goes your amateur status. Now you can’t play in USGA events, except the Opens. Rob On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )

– Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )

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"Hole in One" is an exemption for an Amateur according to the USGA rules.  I am allowed to accept the prize and remain an amateur and play in USGA events. Sorry, but you are incorrect. John Here is section 3-2 An amateur golfer must not: a. Accept a prize (including all prizes received in any one tournament or exhibition for any event, or series of events, in which golf skill is a factor) of a retail value greater than $500 (except for symbolic prizes); Exception: Hole-In-One Prizes The limit prescribed in Rule 3-2a applies to a prize for a hole-in-one. However, such a prize may be accepted in addition to any other prize won in the same competition. b. Accept a prize of money or the equivalent of money; c. Convert a prize into money; d. Accept expenses in any amount to a golf competition (except as provided in Rule 4); or e. Because of golf skill or reputation, accept in connection with any golfing event: (i) money, or (ii) anything else, other than merchandise of nominal value provided to all players.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There goes your amateur status. Now you can’t play in USGA events, except the Opens. Rob On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )

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There goes your amateur status. Now you can’t play in USGA events, except the Opens. Rob On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John

– Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )

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Cool!  Congrats! Wayne — "So It’s oppositeland!  Crooks chase cops!  Cats have puppies!"… Homer Simpson

On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John

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On Saturday I sunk a 4-iron from 175 yards into a stiff breeze for the grand hole in one prize of $10,000.  I’ve played a lot of golf and this was my first one.  What a good time to do it? Thanks, John

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