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You know, I don’t think anyone could offend you. You have to have principals to be offended.
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You know, I don’t think anyone could offend you. You have to have principals to be offended. What are your principals, Z? Can you think of any? Can you think of one you’d defend? Tolerance…
As in tolerating your ignorance??? I tolerate you, Z, but not quietly if you don’t mind. Can you tolerate the way I choose to tolerate you? I can’t wait to hear your next insipid remark. You’re becoming very predictable. But then, shallow people of little substance usually are. Send in the pirates…please…
Huh? What a clever retort! It sounds likes a non sequitor to me from someone who doesn’t have a clue as to what to say. I didn’t think there was much there. Shot your wad already. ]]]Z[[[
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How are you at tolerating committed Christians? Just wondering. 2Katz - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - You know, I don't think anyone could offend you. You have to have principals to be offended. What are your principals, Z? Can you think of any? Can you think of one you'd defend? Tolerance... I can't wait to hear your next insipid remark. You're becoming very predictable. But then, shallow people of little substance usually are. Send in the pirates...please... ]]]Z[[[
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You know, I don't think anyone could offend you. You have to have principals to be offended. What are your principals, Z? Can you think of any? Can you think of one you'd defend?
Tolerance... I can't wait to hear your next insipid remark. You're becoming very predictable. But then, shallow people of little substance usually are.
Send in the pirates...please... ]]]Z[[[
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I have no desire to argue semantics with you or anyone else in this NG. What Z first said was insensitive at least. And his response in defense of his insensitivity went one step further to insult. You and Z claim the right to say things that offend my principals. Well I have the right to defend those principals. Get used to it. See other responses below. I intitated no attack, nor did Zamuel, you judged the post as an
attack. So the attacker is the sole judge of what an attack is??? You know that doesn't play in this PC world. (Ain't that ironic!!!) You found the post "insulting". You have no greater (or no less) claim to being a person of faith than I or Zamuel. You know nothing of me or Zamuel.
I only know what you say and I find what you say insulting. And if it hurts to be insulted back, then why don't you go eat some worms. You and you alone made this an issue by jumping on Zamuel with your self-righteous indignation and bogus claim to be speaking for people of faith in general.
I speak for myself and no one else. I don't need to talk for anyone else. You want to justify yourself as a Christian with this garbage,
I don't have to justify anything. You insult someone and that someone just might insult you back. Get used to it!!! fine, but neither I, nor Zamuel, nor the other posters to this group are the final arbitrators of this issue (as far as we know!), so why bring it up?
Because I'm sick and tired of peope who think they can say whatever they want simply because of the 1st ammendment and the ability to find the right letters on the keyboard. I'll accept ignorance as an excuse the first time. But now you've been told and you still try to tell me what shouldn't offend me. You aren't the judge. The advocate to whom you seem similar IMHO (I speak here only for myself) is the one (and context) mentioned in Job 1: 6-12, and to me, you are a very strong resemblance in form (your implication that others have to prove themselves to you) if not substance (I really don't know if you have actively dragged anyone down, if you have, then the substance is there also).
While you may be able to find the right keys (usually), your sentence structure leaves a lot to be desired. If I understand you correctly, you feel I remind you of someone from the bible. Well, the following is the passage you reference and I just don't see the connection: Job 1:6-12 "[6] One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. [7] The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it." [8] Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil." [9] "Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. [10] "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. [11] But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face." [12] The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger." Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD." Now let me see. Whom, in this passage, do you remind me of????? I’m not asking anyone to prove anything to me. I’m just telling you that if you choose to say something that offends me, I’ll respond whether it’s about religion, politics, my mother, or, oh yeh, golf. Get used to it. With respect to 2Katz, I will terminate any furthur responses to this thread.
Sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor. Now let’s just see if you can keep it up. Terry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rob Unlike your "advocate" I didn’t initiate the attack. If you’ll remember correctly, it was you who insulted people of faith by refering to what is dear to them as "dusty old rituals". You maintain the right to criticize what others hold dear with your cute little witticisms but let someone respond and, according to the almighty you, they’re weak minded fanatics. You open your mouth, you get responses. Ain’t America wonderful!
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It doesn’t assure you are a pagen or a heretic, Scott, but it does tend to increase the odds that you aren’t the best person you could be.
Perhaps, but probably not in my case. My mind buzzes all the time. I reflect on my actions and replay events many times throughout the day. Then I focus on the task(s) at hand and perhaps let the mind wander a bit on other projects, the girl I talked to last night, my racquetball game, etc. Maybe I’m unique, though I doubt it. I can easily focus with a lot of distraction so I don’t need to seek out quiet areas. Upon further reflection…… (see I’m doing it right now 
Your civil explanation to my somewhat stinging reply to you at first is admirable. I tend to be too critical of people who come off as politically correct. Your explanation of your faith was good to hear and in complete contrast to your first post. Such is the nature of the written word however. I wish you the best TerryG. Scott In today’s world, we need all the help we can get. And spending time, at least every week, doing nothing but reflecting on one’s relationship with God, what we are doing on this planet, and how well we did this past week, day, hour doesn’t hurt. Maybe I’m unique but I can’t imagine striving to be a good person without spending dedicated time thinking about it. Seems to me it’s something like trying to be a mathematician without ever putting a pencil in your hand. It doesn’t just happen. My preference is to spend that time in a dusty old ritual.
Some would call that superstition. ;) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I don’t know how to describe to someone who has never experienced the affect of the dusty old rituals, how being there facilitates the thoughts I want to have. I suppose, with great effort, I could achieve the same end while watching the baseball playoffs or while driving to and from work. But it’s just so much easier to do it in a church (or temple, mosque, etc.) where there are no distractions and lots of things to reinforce and reaffirm what I am trying to do. There’s an enormous belief that going to church is the height of hypocracy. I’m sure some people could be fairly accused of such. The way I see it is, I haven’t met the perfect person yet. Perfection just isn’t our lot here. The least I can do is to set aside some time to think about how I can get as close as is humanly possible. You’d be amazed at how peaceful and therapeutic it is. I can only hope (dare I pray??) that some day you experience how it feels.
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You know, I don’t think anyone could offend you. You have to have principals to be offended. What are your principals, Z? Can you think of any? Can you think of one you’d defend? I can’t wait to hear your next insipid remark. You’re becoming very predictable. But then, shallow people of little substance usually are. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect – if it exists in your vocabulary. We’ve gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can’t stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I’m tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I’ll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks. Didn’t like it huh…??? ]]]Z[[[
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Sorry, but I find your response unintelligible. I think you and I are on totally different planes making true communication difficult at best. I wish you grace and inspiration (the latter does not come without the former and the former does not come without.... oh, never mind).
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Unlike your "advocate" I didn't initiate the attack. If you'll remember correctly, it was you who insulted people of faith by refering to what is dear to them as "dusty old rituals". You maintain the right to criticize what others hold dear with your cute little witticisms but let someone respond and, according to the almighty you, they're weak minded fanatics. You open your mouth, you get responses. Ain't America wonderful! - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - With that statement, I guess you claim the role of the "advocate". Rob God help the likes of you. There is some story about some religious figure...middle eastern, I'm certain....who ridiculed people who made a big show of their attendance at religious rituals, getting all dressed up for the "appearance" and making sure that their contributions were "accounted for". The character suggested that if that is how you practice your religion, it has no spiritual value. In that light, repeating some dusty old ritual doesn't have any more significance than golf, so what's the big deal? The rituals mean nothing, the meaning comes in how you live your life, not bowing to a hunk of metal on the end of a stick. Knowing a well known prayer well enough to make a decent parody means one thing, I guess; while comming up with some knee jerk judgemental response (something about a Matt and the numbers 7:1 come to mind here) is another. You certainly represent nothing I practice. There is some guy (some sort of religious advocate) who runs around our town giving people a hard time for mowing their lawn on Sunday (the "sabbath"). The religious character I mentioned at the beginning of this post also "worked" on "the sabbath", and was criticized for it..so who are you, the "worker" or the "advocate"? Rob It wasn't Z's original post that I was reacting to. It was his reponse to 2Katz in which he seems to have revealed how he really feels. I doubt Zam meant any disrespect, nor did the priests/ministers I've heard telling jokes involving Peter and Jesus competing at golf. For all our sakes, I hope (and believe) the Almighty does have a sense of humor. Ortherwise, Judgement Day could be kinda traumatic. In fact, I expect He doesn't take himself as seriously as some golfers take themselves... Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect - if it exists in your vocabulary. We've gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can't stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I'm tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I'll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks. One thing about Usenet. It sure is a constant reminder of how far society has degraded. As a parent, I worry about how representative folks like you, for whom playing golf gives your life meaning, are. See you in the foxhole, Z. Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn't really considered flaming anymore. Nope...Not after all the Bon-Fires lit by the churchs... I know, I'm supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord's Prayer for a few laughs? ??? None that I know of..."Be thee not lukewarm" and all that bit... But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. If some dusty old ritual is all that gives your life meaning...I'd reccommend playing LOTS MORE GOLF...! Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass. I don't mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I'd appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. I'm real sorry that you can't share a laugh with a few of us 2katz...I've never considered merriment and the lifting of the spirits...crap. ]]]Z[[[ -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy. -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy. -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy.
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With that statement, I guess you claim the role of the "advocate". Rob God help the likes of you.
Hmmmm... interesting theological point... If "GOD HELPS" us...That would make Terry the *Adversary*... ??? Get thee behind me Terry! Hmmm...not so sure I'm comfortable with that either... (G)... ]]]Z[[[
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Sorry, but I find your response unintelligible. I think you and I are on totally different planes making true communication difficult at best. I wish you grace and inspiration (the latter does not come without the former and the former does not come without.... oh, never mind). - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Nice solioquy, that still leaves the issue begging. Reflection in no way requires any "dusty ritual", and I can state from personal experience that such refelction is common on golf courses. This too leaves the issue begging, as the issue is not personal reflection, but "reflection" on the actions of others. To make such reflections requires the notion that you are to somehow "patrol" some part of the planet, making sure everyone else is properly respectful of something, at least in the sense of your major post on the issue, which is the issue. Rob It doesn't assure you are a pagen or a heretic, Scott, but it does tend to increase the odds that you aren't the best person you could be. In today's world, we need all the help we can get. And spending time, at least every week, doing nothing but reflecting on one's relationship with God, what we are doing on this planet, and how well we did this past week, day, hour doesn't hurt. Maybe I'm unique but I can't imagine striving to be a good person without spending dedicated time thinking about it. Seems to me it's something like trying to be a mathematician without ever putting a pencil in your hand. It doesn't just happen. My preference is to spend that time in a dusty old ritual. I don't know how to describe to someone who has never experienced the affect of the dusty old rituals, how being there facilitates the thoughts I want to have. I suppose, with great effort, I could achieve the same end while watching the baseball playoffs or while driving to and from work. But it's just so much easier to do it in a church (or temple, mosque, etc.) where there are no distractions and lots of things to reinforce and reaffirm what I am trying to do. There's an enormous belief that going to church is the height of hypocracy. I'm sure some people could be fairly accused of such. The way I see it is, I haven't met the perfect person yet. Perfection just isn't our lot here. The least I can do is to set aside some time to think about how I can get as close as is humanly possible. You'd be amazed at how peaceful and therapeutic it is. I can only hope (dare I pray??) that some day you experience how it feels.
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It doesn't assure you are a pagen or a heretic, Scott, but it does tend to increase the odds that you aren't the best person you could be. In today's world, we need all the help we can get. And spending time, at least every week, doing nothing but reflecting on one's relationship with God, what we are doing on this planet, and how well we did this past week, day, hour doesn't hurt. Maybe I'm unique but I can't imagine striving to be a good person without spending dedicated time thinking about it. Seems to me it's something like trying to be a mathematician without ever putting a pencil in your hand. It doesn't just happen. My preference is to spend that time in a dusty old ritual. I don't know how to describe to someone who has never experienced the affect of the dusty old rituals, how being there facilitates the thoughts I want to have. I suppose, with great effort, I could achieve the same end while watching the baseball playoffs or while driving to and from work. But it's just so much easier to do it in a church (or temple, mosque, etc.) where there are no distractions and lots of things to reinforce and reaffirm what I am trying to do. There's an enormous belief that going to church is the height of hypocracy. I'm sure some people could be fairly accused of such. The way I see it is, I haven't met the perfect person yet. Perfection just isn't our lot here. The least I can do is to set aside some time to think about how I can get as close as is humanly possible. You'd be amazed at how peaceful and therapeutic it is. I can only hope (dare I pray??) that some day you experience how it feels. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - God help the likes of you. Is that the best you can come back with, TerryG? I guess passing on a phrase like the one above and turning the other cheek suits you well. That sure beats having to use your brain. I'm with Rob on this. It is what is in your heart and your dealings with your fellow man that count. If that makes me a pagan or a heretic..... so be it. Scott Organized religion tends to attract the sheep and the wolves. The sheep need "something" to give their lives meaning and a set of rules to live by. The wolves always find their way into the "flock", don't they? There is some story about some religious figure...middle eastern, I'm certain....who ridiculed people who made a big show of their attendance at religious rituals, getting all dressed up for the "appearance" and making sure that their contributions were "accounted for". The character suggested that if that is how you practice your religion, it has no spiritual value. In that light, repeating some dusty old ritual doesn't have any more significance than golf, so what's the big deal? The rituals mean nothing, the meaning comes in how you live your life, not bowing to a hunk of metal on the end of a stick. Knowing a well known prayer well enough to make a decent parody means one thing, I guess; while comming up with some knee jerk judgemental response (something about a Matt and the numbers 7:1 come to mind here) is another. You certainly represent nothing I practice. There is some guy (some sort of religious advocate) who runs around our town giving people a hard time for mowing their lawn on Sunday (the "sabbath"). The religious character I mentioned at the beginning of this post also "worked" on "the sabbath", and was criticized for it..so who are you, the "worker" or the "advocate"? Rob It wasn't Z's original post that I was reacting to. It was his reponse to 2Katz in which he seems to have revealed how he really feels. I doubt Zam meant any disrespect, nor did the priests/ministers I've heard telling jokes involving Peter and Jesus competing at golf. For all our sakes, I hope (and believe) the Almighty does have a sense of humor. Ortherwise, Judgement Day could be kinda traumatic. In fact, I expect He doesn't take himself as seriously as some golfers take themselves... Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect - if it exists in your vocabulary. We've gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can't stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I'm tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I'll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks. One thing about Usenet. It sure is a constant reminder of how far society has degraded. As a parent, I worry about how representative folks like you, for whom playing golf gives your life meaning, are. See you in the foxhole, Z. Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn't really considered flaming anymore. Nope...Not after all the Bon-Fires lit by the churchs... I know, I'm supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord's Prayer for a few laughs? ??? None that I know of..."Be thee not lukewarm" and all that bit... But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. If some dusty old ritual is all that gives your life meaning...I'd reccommend playing LOTS MORE GOLF...! Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass. I don't mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I'd appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. I'm real sorry that you can't share a laugh with a few of us 2katz...I've never considered merriment and the lifting of the spirits...crap. ]]]Z[[[ -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy. -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy.
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God help the likes of you.
Is that the best you can come back with, TerryG? I guess passing on a phrase like the one above and turning the other cheek suits you well. That sure beats having to use your brain. I'm with Rob on this. It is what is in your heart and your dealings with your fellow man that count. If that makes me a pagan or a heretic..... so be it. Scott Organized religion tends to attract the sheep and the wolves. The sheep need "something" to give their lives meaning and a set of rules to live by. The wolves always find their way into the "flock", don't they? - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - There is some story about some religious figure...middle eastern, I'm certain....who ridiculed people who made a big show of their attendance at religious rituals, getting all dressed up for the "appearance" and making sure that their contributions were "accounted for". The character suggested that if that is how you practice your religion, it has no spiritual value. In that light, repeating some dusty old ritual doesn't have any more significance than golf, so what's the big deal? The rituals mean nothing, the meaning comes in how you live your life, not bowing to a hunk of metal on the end of a stick. Knowing a well known prayer well enough to make a decent parody means one thing, I guess; while comming up with some knee jerk judgemental response (something about a Matt and the numbers 7:1 come to mind here) is another. You certainly represent nothing I practice. There is some guy (some sort of religious advocate) who runs around our town giving people a hard time for mowing their lawn on Sunday (the "sabbath"). The religious character I mentioned at the beginning of this post also "worked" on "the sabbath", and was criticized for it..so who are you, the "worker" or the "advocate"? Rob It wasn't Z's original post that I was reacting to. It was his reponse to 2Katz in which he seems to have revealed how he really feels. I doubt Zam meant any disrespect, nor did the priests/ministers I've heard telling jokes involving Peter and Jesus competing at golf. For all our sakes, I hope (and believe) the Almighty does have a sense of humor. Ortherwise, Judgement Day could be kinda traumatic. In fact, I expect He doesn't take himself as seriously as some golfers take themselves... Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect - if it exists in your vocabulary. We've gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can't stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I'm tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I'll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks. One thing about Usenet. It sure is a constant reminder of how far society has degraded. As a parent, I worry about how representative folks like you, for whom playing golf gives your life meaning, are. See you in the foxhole, Z. Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn't really considered flaming anymore. Nope...Not after all the Bon-Fires lit by the churchs... I know, I'm supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord's Prayer for a few laughs? ??? None that I know of..."Be thee not lukewarm" and all that bit... But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. If some dusty old ritual is all that gives your life meaning...I'd reccommend playing LOTS MORE GOLF...! Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass. I don't mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I'd appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. I'm real sorry that you can't share a laugh with a few of us 2katz...I've never considered merriment and the lifting of the spirits...crap. ]]]Z[[[ -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy. -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy.
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It wasn't Z's original post that I was reacting to. It was his reponse to 2Katz in which he seems to have revealed how he really feels. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - I doubt Zam meant any disrespect, nor did the priests/ministers I've heard telling jokes involving Peter and Jesus competing at golf. For all our sakes, I hope (and believe) the Almighty does have a sense of humor. Ortherwise, Judgement Day could be kinda traumatic. In fact, I expect He doesn't take himself as seriously as some golfers take themselves... Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect - if it exists in your vocabulary. We've gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can't stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I'm tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I'll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks. One thing about Usenet. It sure is a constant reminder of how far society has degraded. As a parent, I worry about how representative folks like you, for whom playing golf gives your life meaning, are. See you in the foxhole, Z. Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn't really considered flaming anymore. Nope...Not after all the Bon-Fires lit by the churchs... I know, I'm supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord's Prayer for a few laughs? ??? None that I know of..."Be thee not lukewarm" and all that bit... But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. If some dusty old ritual is all that gives your life meaning...I'd reccommend playing LOTS MORE GOLF...! Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass. I don't mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I'd appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. I'm real sorry that you can't share a laugh with a few of us 2katz...I've never considered merriment and the lifting of the spirits...crap. ]]]Z[[[ -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy.
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God help the likes of you. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - There is some story about some religious figure...middle eastern, I'm certain....who ridiculed people who made a big show of their attendance at religious rituals, getting all dressed up for the "appearance" and making sure that their contributions were "accounted for". The character suggested that if that is how you practice your religion, it has no spiritual value. In that light, repeating some dusty old ritual doesn't have any more significance than golf, so what's the big deal? The rituals mean nothing, the meaning comes in how you live your life, not bowing to a hunk of metal on the end of a stick. Knowing a well known prayer well enough to make a decent parody means one thing, I guess; while comming up with some knee jerk judgemental response (something about a Matt and the numbers 7:1 come to mind here) is another. You certainly represent nothing I practice. There is some guy (some sort of religious advocate) who runs around our town giving people a hard time for mowing their lawn on Sunday (the "sabbath"). The religious character I mentioned at the beginning of this post also "worked" on "the sabbath", and was criticized for it..so who are you, the "worker" or the "advocate"? Rob It wasn't Z's original post that I was reacting to. It was his reponse to 2Katz in which he seems to have revealed how he really feels. I doubt Zam meant any disrespect, nor did the priests/ministers I've heard telling jokes involving Peter and Jesus competing at golf. For all our sakes, I hope (and believe) the Almighty does have a sense of humor. Ortherwise, Judgement Day could be kinda traumatic. In fact, I expect He doesn't take himself as seriously as some golfers take themselves... Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect - if it exists in your vocabulary. We've gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can't stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I'm tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I'll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks. One thing about Usenet. It sure is a constant reminder of how far society has degraded. As a parent, I worry about how representative folks like you, for whom playing golf gives your life meaning, are. See you in the foxhole, Z. Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn't really considered flaming anymore. Nope...Not after all the Bon-Fires lit by the churchs... I know, I'm supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord's Prayer for a few laughs? ??? None that I know of..."Be thee not lukewarm" and all that bit... But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. If some dusty old ritual is all that gives your life meaning...I'd reccommend playing LOTS MORE GOLF...! Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass. I don't mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I'd appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. I'm real sorry that you can't share a laugh with a few of us 2katz...I've never considered merriment and the lifting of the spirits...crap. ]]]Z[[[ -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy. -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy.
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Coleman, The only time someone (even you! 
is beyond help is when they give up. Somehow I just can't picture you ever giving up. Heh, heh. I do have my moments if I must say so myself! .. But, I am beyond help, thanks for tip anyhow... Coleman
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Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect - if it exists in your vocabulary. We've gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can't stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I'm tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I'll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks. One thing about Usenet. It sure is a constant reminder of how far society has degraded. As a parent, I worry about how representative folks like you, for whom playing golf gives your life meaning, are. See you in the foxhole, Z. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn't really considered flaming anymore. Nope...Not after all the Bon-Fires lit by the churchs... I know, I'm supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord's Prayer for a few laughs? ??? None that I know of..."Be thee not lukewarm" and all that bit... But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. If some dusty old ritual is all that gives your life meaning...I'd reccommend playing LOTS MORE GOLF...! Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass. I don't mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I'd appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. I'm real sorry that you can't share a laugh with a few of us 2katz...I've never considered merriment and the lifting of the spirits...crap. ]]]Z[[[
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I doubt Zam meant any disrespect, nor did the priests/ministers I've heard telling jokes involving Peter and Jesus competing at golf. For all our sakes, I hope (and believe) the Almighty does have a sense of humor. Ortherwise, Judgement Day could be kinda traumatic. In fact, I expect He doesn't take himself as seriously as some golfers take themselves... - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect - if it exists in your vocabulary. We've gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can't stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I'm tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I'll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks. One thing about Usenet. It sure is a constant reminder of how far society has degraded. As a parent, I worry about how representative folks like you, for whom playing golf gives your life meaning, are. See you in the foxhole, Z. Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn't really considered flaming anymore. Nope...Not after all the Bon-Fires lit by the churchs... I know, I'm supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord's Prayer for a few laughs? ??? None that I know of..."Be thee not lukewarm" and all that bit... But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. If some dusty old ritual is all that gives your life meaning...I'd reccommend playing LOTS MORE GOLF...! Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass. I don't mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I'd appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. I'm real sorry that you can't share a laugh with a few of us 2katz...I've never considered merriment and the lifting of the spirits...crap. ]]]Z[[[ -- What we're all involved in here is an exercise in communications. Before you buy.
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Very revealing post, Z. So there are no sacred cows. Anything and everything is fair game. Gee, I wonder how you define the word respect - if it exists in your vocabulary. We've gone from a "respect first, question when you have good reason" mentality thru "everyone must earn your respect" to "anyone that can't stand ridicule and disrespect has no sense of humor". While I'm tempted to try to figure out what kind of attack would incense you, I'll refrain out of respect for the rest of the RSG folks.
Didn't like it huh...??? ]]]Z[[[
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(excess snipped) : : BTW, I shot my worst round to today, even the ladies who are just beginning : to play golf are beating me! : : Coleman : Coleman, you sly dog. That is a great way to get some free "lessons" : on the driving range with the girls. ;) : Scott Heh, heh. I do have my moments if I must say so myself! .. But, I am beyond help, thanks for tip anyhow... Coleman
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Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn't really considered flaming anymore.
Nope...Not after all the Bon-Fires lit by the churchs... I know, I'm supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord's Prayer for a few laughs?
??? None that I know of..."Be thee not lukewarm" and all that bit... But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning.
If some dusty old ritual is all that gives your life meaning...I'd reccommend playing LOTS MORE GOLF...! Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass. I don't mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I'd appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf.
I'm real sorry that you can't share a laugh with a few of us 2katz...I've never considered merriment and the lifting of the spirits...crap. ]]]Z[[[
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn’t really considered flaming anymore. I know, I’m supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord’s Prayer for a few laughs? Golf is my hobby — make fun of that, if you want. Play a round with me sometime and you’ll have all the ammunition you need for a lifetime of "2Katz can’t golf" jokes. I’ll be the first to laugh. But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. Sorry if I’m sounding like an ass. I don’t mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I’d appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. Thanks Buddy. 2Katz — "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese." Spare me! out of new found respect for the RSG posters, I am "not" going to give you some examples of religion, the down side. Yes, I can give you some examples, and they are not pretty. I think this post would have been better left "unsaid"..It will draw "counterposts", then we will have a religion thread going on in the RSG! BTW, I shot my worst round to today, even the ladies who are just beginning to play golf are beating me! Coleman
Coleman, you sly dog. That is a great way to get some free "lessons" on the driving range with the girls. ;) Scott
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn’t really considered flaming anymore. I know, I’m supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord’s Prayer for a few laughs? Golf is my hobby — make fun of that, if you want. Play a round with me sometime and you’ll have all the ammunition you need for a lifetime of "2Katz can’t golf" jokes. I’ll be the first to laugh. But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. Sorry if I’m sounding like an ass. I don’t mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I’d appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. Thanks Buddy. 2Katz — "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."
Spare me! out of new found respect for the RSG posters, I am "not" going to give you some examples of religion, the down side. Yes, I can give you some examples, and they are not pretty. I think this post would have been better left "unsaid"..It will draw "counterposts", then we will have a religion thread going on in the RSG! BTW, I shot my worst round to today, even the ladies who are just beginning to play golf are beating me! Coleman
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Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn’t really considered flaming anymore. I know, I’m supposed to lighten up, right?
Right, lighten up. It’s called parody. After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord’s Prayer for a few laughs?
Absolutely none! Golf is my hobby — make fun of that, if you want. Play a round with me sometime and you’ll have all the ammunition you need for a lifetime of "2Katz can’t golf" jokes. I’ll be the first to laugh. But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning.
You know, even God has a sence of humor, after all, we are made in his image, therefor, he must laugh a lot. Sorry if I’m sounding like an ass. I don’t mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I’d appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. Thanks Buddy.
Thanks for the sermon, but I am Baptist. Now you want to talk about making fun of each other? Andy
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Never took you for a flamer. But, then again, I guess in our society, flaming Christians and their beliefs isn’t really considered flaming anymore. I know, I’m supposed to lighten up, right? After all, what harm can it do to rewrite the Lord’s Prayer for a few laughs? Golf is my hobby — make fun of that, if you want. Play a round with me sometime and you’ll have all the ammunition you need for a lifetime of "2Katz can’t golf" jokes. I’ll be the first to laugh. But lay off of that one thing that gives my life meaning. Sorry if I’m sounding like an ass. I don’t mean to. I just get too much crap from too many places nowadays. I’d appreciate not getting it from rec.sport.golf. Thanks Buddy. 2Katz — "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."