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Pattaya or Tibet? May-June 2000

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He’s probably jealous really — methinks he protesteth too much! LTD OM back at ya!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let me spell this out: There are a lot of horny, drunk men in Pattaya and she fears unsolicited advances. We’re simply not party to the seedier and less exquisite facets of travel. Actually the letter to the Bankok Post recently said something along the lines of "middle aged, balding, fat western men, clad in singlets, shorts and sandals, clutching their viagra in one hand, and the 18yr old object of their sexually depraved desire in the other…." I would just like to make it clear – I do not, and never have, owned a singlet. OM

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HHmmmm…sounds like heaven to me!!! John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"middle aged, balding, fat western men, clad in singlets, shorts and sandals, clutching their viagra in one hand, and the 18yr old object of their sexually depraved desire in the other

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Let me spell this out: There are a lot of horny, drunk men in Pattaya and she fears unsolicited advances. We’re simply not party to the seedier and less exquisite facets of travel.

Actually the letter to the Bankok Post recently said something along the lines of "middle aged, balding, fat western men, clad in singlets, shorts and sandals, clutching their viagra in one hand, and the 18yr old object of their sexually depraved desire in the other…." I would just like to make it clear – I do not, and never have, owned a singlet. OM

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Let me spell this out: There are a lot of horny, drunk men in Pattaya and she fears unsolicited advances. We’re simply not party to the seedier and less exquisite facets of travel.

Sean, relax. I can assure you that the horny drunk men have not travelled the distance to Thailand to make advances on a farang lady who is obviously accompanied by a farang male. Too much hassle. The more obvious source of the unsolicited advances may well be to YOU from some Thai girls you may encounter. Having said that, if it’s obvious that your girl is indeed YOUR girl, you will have no problems. The Pattaya girls will probably take to her as someone to aspire to. Regards, TMcG

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I made no reference to your ethnic origin, I was just adding to your previous comment, was it "European or American" men? Has your girlfriend been there and did she get unsolicited advances? Lawrence – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why are you worried about your girlfriend? Can’t she look after herself? Are you being over-protective or worried she may take off with one of the farangs? First of all, I AM a farang and so is she, so don’t posture. My fears about leaving her alone there stem from her own misgivings about the character of a lot of the people in Pattaya. Let me spell this out: There are a lot of horny, drunk men in Pattaya and she fears unsolicited advances. We’re simply not party to the seedier and less exquisite facets of travel. To each his own, and if you like Pattaya, by all means, go there, and encourage others to go there. I was relating my impressions and didn’t expect to be hacked for them. Sean Carrie Before you buy.

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Totally and whole-heartedly agree. If you take computer gear to Thailand, there is no need to declare it. I include copy of email from February this year re Jeep, Pattaya Computer Club and the children. Jeep’s contact details are at end ….

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Slightly off topic but seeing jeep’s name here reminds me of something that he said when I last saw him. Seems he is involved in putting computers into the hands of less well off schoolchildren at some of the local schools. He needs all the computers and computer parts he can get hold of. So, to all you netters out there, should you have upgraded your computer in recent times and have surplus bits like hard drives, ram, mother boards, video cards, sound cards, etc. please bring them to Thailand when you make your expeditions to that fair country. Complete surplus computers would be welcome but unless you already have them in the country it seems that Thai customs slap huge tariffs on them as you bring them in even though they are second hand and/or obsolete. This makes the exercise in donating them far too expensive.  The Pattaya Computer Club should not be too difficult to find. I lost his card :( so I cannot give his email address here. I am sure Marc at the Welkom Inn would be able to direct you to Jeep’s little shop on 2nd Road… It is for a worthy cause! Changnam Pattaya School of Languages & Computers – Ken, Lamai & staff Pattaya Computer Club – Jeep and Lek and Jitda

 QUOTE BEGINS HERE:- Lawrence, sorry for the delay getting back to you. I am busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest! What we are doing in addition to the pattaya mail article helping the street kids, is a large project trying to get computers in to Thai government schools through the country. Uphill battle, but we are trying. You can see what the Bangkok Post printed about us at: http://www.bkkpost.samart.co.th/news/BParchive/BP19980922/220998_Outl… tml  It was a full page article and has helped us a lot. We welcome any and all help and as you already saw, we have 2 kids that we have immediately pegged who need sponsorship up through more education. They ALL need help, but these two are exceptional. It looks like it will cost around 10,000 baht per year per kid to sponsor them up through 6 more years of education. That includes uniform, books, tuition and one meal per day. Here is a clip I just sent out to all my supporters which may be helpful to you: Here is another article written in last Friday’s local newspaper "The Pattaya Mail" about what we are doing to help the poorest of the poor local street kids in addition to our major project of trying to put computers in Thai government schools. Any and all help is appreciated. If you have a donation in the form of computer parts, please ensure they are 486 and above due to non availability of parts for anything older. For donations in the Bangkok area, please contact "Doug" or "Tina" at "Bourbon Street" Bar and Restaurant, Sukhumvit/Soi 22, phone: 259-0328. http://www.pattayamail.com/287/home.htm  Click on "features" then scroll half way down or click on "computers as an aid to literacy". "Web Page Bob" is kindly putting together a web page for us, it is still under construction at:  http://www.ptty.loxinfo.co.th/~glenp We now have a registered US charity "Eagle’s Flight, Inc." who are acting as a conduit for us for any funds donated. They are a registered 501 (c)(3) charity for IRS deductable cash donations. Their address is: Eagle’s Flight, Inc. 504 East Main Street Greenfield, IN  46140-2324 Checks should be made payable to "Eagle’s Flight, Inc." All checks should be marked for "Thai Kid’s Computers". The article for the New York Times has been submitted, and I will let you know when the author "Jonathan Stevenson" lets me know it is published. Thanks for your time and help. I look forward to meeting you in April Lawrence, and I know you will find this project rewarding. Jeep – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi Glen, I am a regular visitor to SE Asia and in particular Thailand. I have sponsored children in India via the Christian Childrens Fund World Vision. I am currently talking with World Vision about sposoring a child up-country in Thaiand. I am a Contract Computer Consultant in Australia and I speak a little Thai only. I am willing to help with time and any spare computer equipment I can arrange (basically just little bits & pieces). I would like to meet you and the children when I am in Pattaya for April 1999. I would consider sponsoring the education of 1 or 2 children in Pattaya dependant upon what costs are involved. Please see my webpage for my details. Do you wish me to help advertise your cause as advertised in the Pattaya Mail? Regards, Lawrence T Dargan +61-2-95463651 line1 +61-2-95464323 line2 +61-416-343427 cellular during working hours http://www.users.bigpond.com/lt_dargan/ my professional site http://www.magna.com.au/~ltdargan/ my interests site ICQ# 12421168 Attachment Converted: "C:EUDORAAttachLawrence T Dargan.vcf"

Glenn P. "Jeep" Holthaus, President,Pattaya Computer Club and Vice Chairman of the United Charities of the Eastern Seaboard. Jeep’s Joint, Pattaya, Thailand Snail mail: PO Box 29, Jomtien Beach, Chonburi 20261, Thailand Club Address: 313/82 M10, South Pattaya Road, Pattaya 20260, Thailand PH: 66(38) 424 998  Fax: 66(38)723 273 Home of Lek’s Monster Burgers and the Pattaya Computer Club URL: under construction http://www.ptty.loxinfo.co.th/~glenp

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If Thailand was a body, Bangkok would be its head, Chiangmai would be its heart and Pattaya would be it’s asshole.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Jesus is returning and boy is he pissed!

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Why are you worried about your girlfriend? Can’t she look after herself? Are you being over-protective or worried she may take off with one of the farangs?

First of all, I AM a farang and so is she, so don’t posture. My fears about leaving her alone there stem from her own misgivings about the character of a lot of the people in Pattaya. Let me spell this out: There are a lot of horny, drunk men in Pattaya and she fears unsolicited advances. We’re simply not party to the seedier and less exquisite facets of travel. To each his own, and if you like Pattaya, by all means, go there, and encourage others to go there. I was relating my impressions and didn’t expect to be hacked for them. Sean Carrie Before you buy.

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Yeah I gotta agree, Pattaya ain’t the greatest place. But if you can deal with all the bullshit it can be pretty fun. The one thing I really hate though are those asshole american marines who come down every year or something and think they rule the place. They always have something stupid to say to every Thai girl who goes by thinking that they’re all hookers. What pisses me off even more is when I say excuse me they get all shocked and go oh my god YOU SPEAK ENGLISH!!! SOme people are just ignorant and think that education doesn’t exit out of their home town. Anyway getting back to the point. If it’s a beach that you want. Go to Phuket, it’s the most beautiful place..it’s got a great beach that’s not over crowded and fun things to do like jet skiing and parasailing. It’s also got great parties. Don’t waste you time in Pattaya for too long. It’s fun every once in a while but no in the long run. If you want to be closer to Bangkok I suggest you also check out Hua Hin. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Look, basically anywhere is better than Pattaya. It’s an horrific place populated by horrific shallow European and American men seeking sex. And I say this as a guy. I wouldn’t leave my girlfriend alone there for 10 seconds, the beach is shitty, the people jaded and unfriendly. If you want to learn Thai, go to Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Khorat…basically anywhere else. Sean Carrie, Hong Kong Before you buy.

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