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That’s funny they call it a mountain! In the Southwest flat level ground is often higher than 5000 feet. 
ABQ Intl is higher than this. -Robert
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of the NIMBYs who always seem to move right across the road from airports (and then start trying to shut them
down). Heh, heh, After they buy- They claim that they didn’t expect the airport to become busier. One of those NIMBYs near me is a county commissioner. When I found out that he was also a private pilot, I had to go blast him during a commission meeting. Luckily, the houses next to Andrews-Murphy won’t be under the traffic pattern for quite some time since they are nearly at traffic pattern altitude. The east runway has a right-hand pattern for a granite reason. D.
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That’s funny they call it a mountain! In the Southwest flat level ground is often higher than 5000 feet. ABQ Intl is higher than this.
But, do these flat and level 5,000 ft MSL airports have "squirrelly" winds? Density altitude is not the only hazard when one thinks of mountain flying. — Peter —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—
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But, do these flat and level 5,000 ft MSL airports have "squirrelly" winds? Density altitude is not the only hazard when one thinks of mountain flying.
It can get very interesting landing and taking off when the winds blow upslope and over the trees. Depending on how tall the trees are makes for guesswork as to where the swirling stops and the calm begins.
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Yes, I know that the conditions can be very different on the other side of the mountains. But the original poster is in Louisville, KY. To get to Mountain Air or Asheville, etc., he still has to fly over/through/around any weather that we may have on the west side and on top of the hills.
True – I didn’t notice that. Having had a few unfortunate experiences trying to go direct in the mountains, I would probably run SE out of Louisville until I got on the other side and then come in from the north. Long run, but it keeps the time over the hills to a minimum. George Patterson A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that cannot be learned any other way. Samuel Clemens
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That’s funny they call it a mountain!
Regardless of the altitude, they call it a mountain because the only flat ground around is vertical. George Patterson A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that cannot be learned any other way. Samuel Clemens
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if I remember correctly.. this is the place that "requires" landing at another "valley" airport first.. to get a "mountain checkout".. before landing at their Private airstrip.. for the "romantic" … There was an article on an old hotel set into the Appalachian with a runway, nice big "luxury" rooms.. and out door activities like golf, tennis and such.. I’ll see if I can find it.. BT
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anybody visited Maountain Air in NC? Looks like it has an 18 hole course right off the airstrip, hiking trails etc. Claims to be the highest strip in the Eastern U.S. 75 degress in July…sounds like heaven…but I wonder about January…I sure would hate to have an engine failure half way down the runway….check it out www.flymountainair.com. For the most part it looks like a private fly in community, but then again there is a lodge. From the website it sure looks swanky. I am anxious to hear if anyone has made a visit and can shed some light… I discovered this site while searching for a romantic place to fly my girlfriend for a very important romantic weekend getaway. Any ideas…I am based out of Louisville, KY (KLOU)and fly a Cherokee (120 hr VFR pilot)…I’m looking for something within a few hours. I have considered Gatlinberg (sp?)TN but that may be a little crass…wax museums are not exactly what I had in mind. Then again, I know there are some nice secluded areas around there too. I also considered Chicago…but that doesn’t sound like much fun anymore (what’s it like flying into the other airports now?). A resort similar to Mountain Air would be ideal. I am willing to shell out a few bucks for this weekend trip so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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if I remember correctly.. this is the place that "requires" landing at another "valley" airport first.. to get a "mountain checkout".. before landing at their Private airstrip..
Imagine what a crash straight off the runway into the ninth hole or into one of those nearby homes would do to their future sales. — Peter —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—
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An acquaintance of mine’s parents live there. If you are not a resident, you must have prior permission to land there. If you do not have any mountain flying experience, you are well advised to obtain specific training prior to attempting to operate out of such an airstrip. Recognizing visual and weather cues are extremely important for approaches and departures.
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Has anybody visited Maountain Air in NC?
One of the aviation writers did a short blurb on it last year. I think it was Richard Collins. He pointed out that there are frequently strong winds on mountain slopes, so this is a true "crosswind city" airport. George Patterson A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that cannot be learned any other way. Samuel Clemens
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looking for a nice airpark home a few years ago. The big problem there is that there is no provision for hangars or hangar homes — it is all tiedowns.
Might consider going down the road a bit to Andrews-Murphy. It’s public, so you can’t put a house on it, but you can put a hangar on it and build a house on the mountain across the road. D.
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Might consider going down the road a bit to Andrews-Murphy. It’s public, so you can’t put a house on it, but you can put a hangar on it and build a house on the mountain across the road.
Or better yet, buy a house from one of the NIMBYs who always seem to move right across the road from airports (and then start trying to shut them down). George Patterson A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that cannot be learned any other way. Samuel Clemens
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Hello, I’d recommend Nemacolin in a heartbeat if you’re looking for a romantic getaway. I’ve spent time here, and it’s top notch. 2 golf courses are adjacent, horseback riding is available and then of course there’s the spa… A ski resort is nearby; I think Fallingwater is also in the vicinity. Can’t go wrong. They have a private airstrip right on the property, however I’m just a student pilot and couldn’t give you much information about its suitability at the time of year you’re planning. Here’s the link: http://www.nemacolin.com/contact_privateAirfield.asp Good luck to you – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Has anybody visited Maountain Air in NC? Looks like it has an 18 hole course right off the airstrip, hiking trails etc. Claims to be the highest strip in the Eastern U.S. 75 degress in July…sounds like heaven…but I wonder about January…I sure would hate to have an engine failure half way down the runway….check it out www.flymountainair.com. For the most part it looks like a private fly in community, but then again there is a lodge. From the website it sure looks swanky. I am anxious to hear if anyone has made a visit and can shed some light… I discovered this site while searching for a romantic place to fly my girlfriend for a very important romantic weekend getaway. Any ideas…I am based out of Louisville, KY (KLOU)and fly a Cherokee (120 hr VFR pilot)…I’m looking for something within a few hours. I have considered Gatlinberg (sp?)TN but that may be a little crass…wax museums are not exactly what I had in mind. Then again, I know there are some nice secluded areas around there too. I also considered Chicago…but that doesn’t sound like much fun anymore (what’s it like flying into the other airports now?). A resort similar to Mountain Air would be ideal. I am willing to shell out a few bucks for this weekend trip so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Greg, January weather in the mountains there will be very iffy. When the skys are cloudy, you may have rain or snow. When the skys ar clear, you will likely have high winds and turbulance. I fly out of nearby Knoxville, TN, so I’m very familiar with the conditions even though I haven’t specifically been to Mountain Air. Agree that Gatlinburg is pretty touristy, though it’s a good bit nicer than the nearby Pigeon Forge (home of Dollywood). Gatlinburg has some very nice hotels and some excellent eats. The aquarium is really good. I’m pretty sure you can find some romance there. The airport is great, although it’s actually in nearby Sevierville. Wide 5000′ runway and a pretty good FBO. Avgas is expensive, though. You will need to rent a car. Why not go a few miles further to Asheville? Go to Biltmore House. Lots of B&Bs. Yuck weather over the mountains could still prevent you from getting there VFR. If golf (even in January) is your thing, try Crossville, TN (KCSV). Long wide runway and a super FBO. There must be a million golf courses there. How ’bout Chattanooga? They have a fantastic aquarium plus Lookout Mountain is a real nice place. Nashville is also a good trip. Stay in one of the fancy old-school hotels downtown. Good food and lots of good music on Broadway. 3 airports to choose from. The main one (KBNA) is HUGE, but it’s easy to get into, even for us small fry. How ’bout Memphis? Stay at the Peabody Hotel, eat at the Rendezvous, and go to B.B. King’s. Or go a few extra miles to Tunica, MS for some really good casinos if that’s your thing. How ’bout St. Louis? Going up in the Arch really is cool. Tour the brewery. Go to a St. Louis Blues hockey game. Really fab Italian food in that town. Best regards, Steve Robertson N4732J 1967 Beechcraft A23-24 Musketeer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anybody visited Maountain Air in NC? Looks like it has an 18 hole course right off the airstrip, hiking trails etc. Claims to be the highest strip in the Eastern U.S. 75 degress in July…sounds like heaven…but I wonder about January…I sure would hate to have an engine failure half way down the runway….check it out www.flymountainair.com. For the most part it looks like a private fly in community, but then again there is a lodge. From the website it sure looks swanky. I am anxious to hear if anyone has made a visit and can shed some light… I discovered this site while searching for a romantic place to fly my girlfriend for a very important romantic weekend getaway. Any ideas…I am based out of Louisville, KY (KLOU)and fly a Cherokee (120 hr VFR pilot)…I’m looking for something within a few hours. I have considered Gatlinberg (sp?)TN but that may be a little crass…wax museums are not exactly what I had in mind. Then again, I know there are some nice secluded areas around there too. I also considered Chicago…but that doesn’t sound like much fun anymore (what’s it like flying into the other airports now?). A resort similar to Mountain Air would be ideal. I am willing to shell out a few bucks for this weekend trip so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It does look nice in the pictures. Id be a bit concerned by the quote "our 2,875-foot paved private runway promises a memorable arrival to Mountain Air". I dont like memorable arrivals! January would be a good time to go because the Pressure Altitude will be lower. If its dry for a few days on either side you might not get fog-bound. I got a brochure from this place once – nothing to do with flying – the Lodge is where they want you to stay if you "tour" the community (eg a sales pitch). I bet they will perk up if you tell them you are coming in your own plane. There’s a nice place in French Lick Indiana which would be less of a haul for you & hilly (for Indiana) but not mountains. French Lick Springs Resort & Spa 4 miles from French Lick Municipal Airport (KFRH)! Have fun…
I looked into Mountain Air when I was looking for a nice airpark home a few years ago. The big problem there is that there is no provision for hangars or hangar homes — it is all tiedowns. From the looks of it, I’d say that it is more for fly-in visitors than full-time residents (at least those who own airplanes). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anybody visited Maountain Air in NC? Looks like it has an 18 hole course right off the airstrip, hiking trails etc. Claims to be the highest strip in the Eastern U.S. 75 degress in July…sounds like heaven…but I wonder about January…I sure would hate to have an engine failure half way down the runway….check it out www.flymountainair.com. For the most part it looks like a private fly in community, but then again there is a lodge. From the website it sure looks swanky. I am anxious to hear if anyone has made a visit and can shed some light… I discovered this site while searching for a romantic place to fly my girlfriend for a very important romantic weekend getaway. Any ideas…I am based out of Louisville, KY (KLOU)and fly a Cherokee (120 hr VFR pilot)…I’m looking for something within a few hours. I have considered Gatlinberg (sp?)TN but that may be a little crass…wax museums are not exactly what I had in mind. Then again, I know there are some nice secluded areas around there too. I also considered Chicago…but that doesn’t sound like much fun anymore (what’s it like flying into the other airports now?). A resort similar to Mountain Air would be ideal. I am willing to shell out a few bucks for this weekend trip so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Greg, A couple of things. First, I believe that this is the place that has a very tricky approach in and if you go around, you must do it early. A couple of alternatives are French Lick, In. I was just there not long ago. It is a wonderful, romantic place. Call ahead and they will pick you up. Secondly is Nemacolin, Pa (www.nemacolin.com). Bush was there no very long ago. They have a wide range of prices depending on what you want. I have not been there yet, but I plan on going soon. It also has an very nice stip. Kevin
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Yes, I know that the conditions can be very different on the other side of the mountains. But the original poster is in Louisville, KY. To get to Mountain Air or Asheville, etc., he still has to fly over/through/around any weather that we may have on the west side and on top of the hills. And with him being a 120-hour VFR pilot, I just want to make sure he understands the weather conditions that might be encountered. Best, Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – January weather in the mountains there will be very iffy. When the skys are cloudy, you may have rain or snow. When the skys ar clear, you will likely have high winds and turbulance. I fly out of nearby Knoxville, TN, so I’m very familiar with the conditions even though I haven’t specifically been to Mountain Air. Mountain Air is on the other side of the mountains, so it’s in a completely different weather pattern than K-town. Conditions will be similar to those at Asheville, but I’d guess that there will be fewer days of flyable weather. That strip is likely to be socked in anytime the briefing lists "mountain obscuration". George Patterson A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that cannot be learned any other way. Samuel Clemens
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January weather in the mountains there will be very iffy. When the skys are cloudy, you may have rain or snow. When the skys ar clear, you will likely have high winds and turbulance. I fly out of nearby Knoxville, TN, so I’m very familiar with the conditions even though I haven’t specifically been to Mountain Air.
Mountain Air is on the other side of the mountains, so it’s in a completely different weather pattern than K-town. Conditions will be similar to those at Asheville, but I’d guess that there will be fewer days of flyable weather. That strip is likely to be socked in anytime the briefing lists "mountain obscuration". George Patterson A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that cannot be learned any other way. Samuel Clemens
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Has anybody visited Maountain Air in NC? Looks like it has an 18 hole course right off the airstrip, hiking trails etc. Claims to be the highest strip in the Eastern U.S. 75 degress in July…sounds like heaven…but I wonder about January…I sure would hate to have an engine failure half way down the runway….check it out www.flymountainair.com. For the most part it looks like a private fly in community, but then again there is a lodge. From the website it sure looks swanky. I am anxious to hear if anyone has made a visit and can shed some light… I discovered this site while searching for a romantic place to fly my girlfriend for a very important romantic weekend getaway. Any ideas…I am based out of Louisville, KY (KLOU)and fly a Cherokee (120 hr VFR pilot)…I’m looking for something within a few hours. I have considered Gatlinberg (sp?)TN but that may be a little crass…wax museums are not exactly what I had in mind. Then again, I know there are some nice secluded areas around there too. I also considered Chicago…but that doesn’t sound like much fun anymore (what’s it like flying into the other airports now?). A resort similar to Mountain Air would be ideal. I am willing to shell out a few bucks for this weekend trip so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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It does look nice in the pictures. Id be a bit concerned by the quote "our 2,875-foot paved private runway promises a memorable arrival to Mountain Air". I dont like memorable arrivals! January would be a good time to go because the Pressure Altitude will be lower. If its dry for a few days on either side you might not get fog-bound. I got a brochure from this place once – nothing to do with flying – the Lodge is where they want you to stay if you "tour" the community (eg a sales pitch). I bet they will perk up if you tell them you are coming in your own plane. There’s a nice place in French Lick Indiana which would be less of a haul for you & hilly (for Indiana) but not mountains. French Lick Springs Resort & Spa 4 miles from French Lick Municipal Airport (KFRH)! Have fun…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anybody visited Maountain Air in NC? Looks like it has an 18 hole course right off the airstrip, hiking trails etc. Claims to be the highest strip in the Eastern U.S. 75 degress in July…sounds like heaven…but I wonder about January…I sure would hate to have an engine failure half way down the runway….check it out www.flymountainair.com. For the most part it looks like a private fly in community, but then again there is a lodge. From the website it sure looks swanky. I am anxious to hear if anyone has made a visit and can shed some light… I discovered this site while searching for a romantic place to fly my girlfriend for a very important romantic weekend getaway. Any ideas…I am based out of Louisville, KY (KLOU)and fly a Cherokee (120 hr VFR pilot)…I’m looking for something within a few hours. I have considered Gatlinberg (sp?)TN but that may be a little crass…wax museums are not exactly what I had in mind. Then again, I know there are some nice secluded areas around there too. I also considered Chicago…but that doesn’t sound like much fun anymore (what’s it like flying into the other airports now?). A resort similar to Mountain Air would be ideal. I am willing to shell out a few bucks for this weekend trip so any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!