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I bet you could get a lot farther with your ban on carts if you could first get a total ban on automobiles.
This sophomorism is absurd beyond belief Does it really bother you that much that carts are driving around on other parts of the course? Do you really have to deprive everyone of the OPPORTUNITY to ride a cart to get full enjoyment from the game yourself?
Do you have difficulty reading English? Or thinking? Isn’t it obvious that motor vehicles on the golf course bothers me. Where the hell do you see that EVERYONE is going to be deprived of the opportunity to ride a cart if ONE PERCENT of the courses were cart free? Will ANYONE be deprived? Only if they insist that every goddammed course toss four hundred years of golf history into the toilet. WELL-EXCUUUUSE ME (I know you’re not talking about a TOTAL ban, but you are talking about a cartfree course.) Actually, I’m sure that if you bought your own course, you would have every right to ban carts on it. Live an let live. Just walk. Don’t try to make other people conform to your ideals. If you base your enjoyment on what OTHER people do, you’re not going to be very happy.
Why don’t you let ME live? Can I enjoy fresh air by living and let live the next guy blowing cigarette smoke in my face. You want me to conform to YOUR dumbed down version of the game-and thats OK? Where did you study philosophy-at Beavis and Butthead U? A C http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m012/acamwb
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Albert, Your too young to be mouthing off to your seniors like that. Why do use computers to do homework, they didn’t 400 years ago? You must still use Hickory shafted clubs like they did 400 years ago cause that’s how the game was meant to be played. Walk the golf courses, but don’t try and impose the same things on the rest of us who are little older and evidently much wiser. We need those carts once in awhile. Larry Clark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MORE INVECTIVE RE CARTS/CARTGOLF Minnesota has 12,000 lakes. If I want to do some fishing without the prospect of Larry, Moe or Curly using my Grumman Sportcanoe for a pylon for their mindless jetskiing, there are a couple of hundred lakes where jetskis are not allowed, BUT I have to drive three hundred miles to reach them. At least they exist. If I want to play golf without having to watch Larry, Moe and Curly zoom around the course in a cart, THERE IS NO PLACE for me to go. I received several responses from my last post from some semi-literates who suggested that 1. I boycott courses that have carts [ obligatory ] and patronize courses where walking is ALLOWED or that I play at courses that have no carts. and 2. That asking for a 3ban2 on carts was unrealistic. To answer the first is simple. THERE ARE NO COURSES WITHOUT CARTS. I play at the University course, which up until four years ago was the last course in the state without carts. Bill Clinton has a serious rival in the money grubbing department in the [ recently invited to retire ] university president. It9s money, money, money and only money now at the University. [ Why are they happy that the basketball team is ranked #2? It means MORE REVENUE.] To answer the second point is almost as simple. You can read my posts twelve times over and not find a call for a ban on carts. I merely asked that a few courses preserve the game as it was played for FOUR HUNDRED YEARS. If there were four such courses in Minnesota, that would represent ONE PERCENT of the courses. Is this asking too much? Some people thought that I was being 3unreasonable2. IMHO, I think wanting to experience the game of golf without seeing internal combustion vehicles driving back and forth over the GRASS, is entirely reasonable. Are you people so fucking greedy and selfish that you can9t allow ONE course to retain a four hundred year old physical aspect. Dave Tutleman is only partially correct in blaming the golfers. It9s the USGA that allowed this to happen. If you take the combined guts of the USGA governors and added them together, you wouldn9t even get a wimp. Their walking program is PATHETIC. It9s too late for that. The game as it existed for four hundred years is gone, kaput, finished. For thirty years they saw it disappear from around them , and their response was DUH or maybe HUH? If there is any greater bunch of more pretentious incompetents I would like to receive nominations. Well folks at the USGA, you are now irrelevant. The golf fascists have overrun golf and you think you still matter.. CARTGOLF UBER ALLES is in effect. We are moving towards a society in which the great majority cannot experience any outdoor activity, whether on snow, grass or water without planting their asses on top of a gas engine vehicle, and those who take their pleasure unaided by these pollution machines are looked on as weirdos. This is what we are now teaching the children as the norm. Kids who can9t afford the price of a golf cart actually feel they are being deprived of the 3full enjoyment2 of the golf experience by having to walk. What a sorry state of affairs. A C http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m012/acamwb
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I bet you could get a lot farther with your ban on carts if you could first get a total ban on automobiles. Does it really bother you that much that carts are driving around on other parts of the course? Do you really have to deprive everyone of the OPPORTUNITY to ride a cart to get full enjoyment from the game yourself? (I know you’re not talking about a TOTAL ban, but you are talking about a cartfree course.) Actually, I’m sure that if you bought your own course, you would have every right to ban carts on it. Live an let live. Just walk. Don’t try to make other people conform to your ideals. If you base your enjoyment on what OTHER people do, you’re not going to be very happy.
I can understand why someone would want carts banned. If carts are allowed to roam everywhere on the fairways, eventually those fairways are going to get as hard as rocks. On my home course the carts are supposed to stay on the paths but it isn’t enforced. As a result there are places that are so hard that grass won’t even grow there. They should be made to stick to the paths provided. I don’t think that they should be banned all togeather because sometimes they are needed. Older people like them and people with lite injuries need them. I sprained my ancle last summer(which seems to happen every summer) and during this time a cart was appreciated. Regards Trevor Critch
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I bet you could get a lot farther with your ban on carts if you could first get a total ban on automobiles. Does it really bother you that much that carts are driving around on other parts of the course? Do you really have to deprive everyone of the OPPORTUNITY to ride a cart to get full enjoyment from the game yourself? (I know you’re not talking about a TOTAL ban, but you are talking about a cartfree course.) Actually, I’m sure that if you bought your own course, you would have every right to ban carts on it. Live an let live. Just walk. Don’t try to make other people conform to your ideals. If you base your enjoyment on what OTHER people do, you’re not going to be very happy. -Barry
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – MORE INVECTIVE RE CARTS/CARTGOLF Minnesota has 12,000 lakes. If I want to do some fishing without the prospect of Larry, Moe or Curly using my Grumman Sportcanoe for a pylon for their mindless jetskiing, there are a couple of hundred lakes where jetskis are not allowed, BUT I have to drive three hundred miles to reach them. At least they exist. If I want to play golf without having to watch Larry, Moe and Curly zoom around the course in a cart, THERE IS NO PLACE for me to go. I received several responses from my last post from some semi-literates who suggested that 1. I boycott courses that have carts [