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Talk about getting in late in the game. I finally read the book this weekend. After that experience (and reading it IS an experience), I immediately downloaded the trailer that has cast commentary on it (sorry guys, it’s over 7MB) in .mov format. I haven’t been to a movie lately…is a preview now running in theaters? My understanding is that Dreamworks has decided it is "not a summer movie" and thus pushed the release date from August to November. BTW, the site where I downloaded the trailer is http://spielberg-dreamworks.com/legendofbaggervance/ — Allen Van Camp (To reply, replace spammers-are-scum with earthlink) Fairway? What’s a fairway?!?!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Lobshot694" wrote … Saw the ads last night for the new golf movie called Legend of Bagger Vance. (I think that was the name). The Legend of Bagger Vance. It has Will Smith and Matt Damon and looked like it might be worth seeing. Has anyone else heard anything about this flick? I’ve heard nothing but good reviews, although they’ve come mostly from critics, not golfers. I saw Matt Damon talk about the movie on The Golf Channel a few weeks ago and he was quite pleased with the way the movie turned out. I haven’t yet seen any previews. How come there is so few good golf movies? Because they’re produced by movie people, not golfers. This one, however, had some fairly credible "technical advisors," so I’ll bet it’s quite good. "Tin Cup," which was almost universally panned by RSG’ers was, IMHO, the best "golf movie" in recent years. Best ever of course is Caddy Shack. See above. Sorry, I guess I’m a lone voice on this, as I’ve never much cared for CaddyShack. But then again, in my mind, it’s not a golf movie, it’s a comedy. And I will admit, it *is* funny. What will be really worth seeing, I think, is if Clint Eastwood ever gets around to producing "Golf In the Kingdom." He owns the movie rights to it, and is, as we all know, an avid golfer and part owner of the Pebble Beach Company, so I imagine he’ll give it the treatment it deserves. I interviewed him a couple of years ago about it, and he admitted they were having difficulty adapting the story to film, and had rejected a couple of rough drafts on scripts already. It could be a while before this one ever makes it to the big screen. But it may be worth the wait. For now, I’ll be satisfied seeing Rocky & Bullwinkle. Randy
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<clip Sorry, I guess I’m a lone voice on this, as I’ve never much cared for CaddyShack. But then again, in my mind, it’s not a golf movie, it’s a comedy. And I will admit, it *is* funny.
You’re not alone. I go crazy when people refer to this a golf movie. NOT! "Someone likes every shot" bk
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I’m with you guys here – it was a Comedy which happened to be centered around a golf course. NEVER a "golf movie" David — RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <clip Sorry, I guess I’m a lone voice on this, as I’ve never much cared for CaddyShack. But then again, in my mind, it’s not a golf movie, it’s a comedy. And I will admit, it *is* funny. You’re not alone. I go crazy when people refer to this a golf movie. NOT! "Someone likes every shot" bk
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"Lobshot694" wrote … Saw the ads last night for the new golf movie called Legend of Bagger Vance. (I think that was the name).
The Legend of Bagger Vance. It has Will Smith and Matt Damon and looked like it might be worth seeing. Has anyone else heard anything about this flick?
I’ve heard nothing but good reviews, although they’ve come mostly from critics, not golfers. I saw Matt Damon talk about the movie on The Golf Channel a few weeks ago and he was quite pleased with the way the movie turned out. I haven’t yet seen any previews. How come there is so few good golf movies?
Because they’re produced by movie people, not golfers. This one, however, had some fairly credible "technical advisors," so I’ll bet it’s quite good. "Tin Cup," which was almost universally panned by RSG’ers was, IMHO, the best "golf movie" in recent years. Best ever of course is Caddy Shack.
See above. Sorry, I guess I’m a lone voice on this, as I’ve never much cared for CaddyShack. But then again, in my mind, it’s not a golf movie, it’s a comedy. And I will admit, it *is* funny. What will be really worth seeing, I think, is if Clint Eastwood ever gets around to producing "Golf In the Kingdom." He owns the movie rights to it, and is, as we all know, an avid golfer and part owner of the Pebble Beach Company, so I imagine he’ll give it the treatment it deserves. I interviewed him a couple of years ago about it, and he admitted they were having difficulty adapting the story to film, and had rejected a couple of rough drafts on scripts already. It could be a while before this one ever makes it to the big screen. But it may be worth the wait. For now, I’ll be satisfied seeing Rocky & Bullwinkle. Randy
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"Be the ball, Billy, be the ball" You are right, it was a comedy…about golf (I wont even mention how much I detest Happy Gilmore). But it just hit the spot. Tin Cup on the other hand was kind of a comedy also, right? I liked it fine, but it wont ever have a quote that is used 20 years later. See above. Randy wrote…See above. Sorry, I guess I’m a lone voice on this, as I’ve
never much – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -cared for CaddyShack. But then again, in my mind, it’s not a golf movie, it’s a comedy. And I will admit, it *is* funny. What will be really worth seeing, I think, is if Clint Eastwood ever gets around to producing "Golf In the Kingdom." He owns the movie rights to it, and is, as we all know, an avid golfer and part owner of the Pebble Beach Company, so I imagine he’ll give it the treatment it deserves. I interviewed him a couple of years ago about it, and he admitted they were having difficulty adapting the story to film, and had rejected a couple of rough drafts on scripts already. It could be a while before this one ever makes it to the big screen. But it may be worth the wait. For now, I’ll be satisfied seeing Rocky & Bullwinkle. Randy
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It is here beside me and you are quite correct on the title. I found a bit of humour in it, but did not enjoy his style of writing, found him to be rather condescending towards anything not "American". But, just my opinion, and of course YMMV!!!!! Really? I guess he might have been condescending about the hotels, roads, etc., on his travels to British courses, but he was VERY complimentary of the golf courses themselves and the golfers that he found there. In fact, I think he reserved his utmost contempt for other Americans travelers that he met at the British courses. Matter of fact, I think the majority of his book was about playing all of those great British courses, and the last chapter (in which he played the 12 best courses in America) looked like an afterthought…
He certainly waxed poetic over several of the US courses, Pebble in particular, and I certainly would never blame him for that!! I don’t know, Jeffrey – I just did not take to his style and some of his usage and it probably set the tone, for me at least, for the entire book. I have read his columns in GD, and thoroughly enjoyed them, but I’m afraid this book wasn’t, for me, an extremely enjoyable read, especially coming right behind Bamberger’s book. David — RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm
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It was a great book. I was really disappointed in the casting when I heard that they had picked Will Smith to play Bagger Vance. Not that I have a problem with Will Smith, but I had visualized Morgan Freeman In the part as I was reading the book. Rick Rewerts
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Saw the ads last night for the new golf movie called Legend of Bagger Vance. (I think that was the name). It has Will Smith and Matt Damon and looked like it might be worth seeing. Has anyone else heard anything about this flick? How come there is so few good golf movies? Best ever of course is Caddy Shack. Tom
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Bagger Vance was a Xmas Gift, and I thoroughly enjoyed it – one of the best books I’ve read in a long time IMHO, and it started me back reading golf books again, something I hadn’t done in over 25 years. I’ve since read "To the LInksland" by Michael Bamberger – fantastic read, and David Owen’s " My Unusual Game" – terrible read – didn’t like it at all.(Thanks to Patrick Inglis for lending me the books!!)
David Owen’s book is called "My Usual Game." I actually liked it a lot– very funny in some places, too. — Jeff Rogers http://www.rogersnetwork.com/
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Bagger Vance was a Xmas Gift, and I thoroughly enjoyed it – one of the best books I’ve read in a long time IMHO, and it started me back reading golf books again, something I hadn’t done in over 25 years. I’ve since read "To the LInksland" by Michael Bamberger – fantastic read, and David Owen’s " My Unusual Game" – terrible read – didn’t like it at all.(Thanks to Patrick Inglis for lending me the books!!) David Owen’s book is called "My Usual Game." I actually liked it a lot– very funny in some places, too. Jeff Rogers
It is here beside me and you are quite correct on the title. I found a bit of humour in it, but did not enjoy his style of writing, found him to be rather condescending towards anything not "American". But, just my opinion, and of course YMMV!!!!! David — RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bagger Vance was a Xmas Gift, and I thoroughly enjoyed it – one of the best books I’ve read in a long time IMHO, and it started me back reading golf books again, something I hadn’t done in over 25 years. I’ve since read "To the LInksland" by Michael Bamberger – fantastic read, and David Owen’s " My Unusual Game" – terrible read – didn’t like it at all.(Thanks to Patrick Inglis for lending me the books!!) David Owen’s book is called "My Usual Game." I actually liked it a lot– very funny in some places, too. Jeff Rogers It is here beside me and you are quite correct on the title. I found a bit of humour in it, but did not enjoy his style of writing, found him to be rather condescending towards anything not "American". But, just my opinion, and of course YMMV!!!!!
Really? I guess he might have been condescending about the hotels, roads, etc., on his travels to British courses, but he was VERY complimentary of the golf courses themselves and the golfers that he found there. In fact, I think he reserved his utmost contempt for other Americans travelers that he met at the British courses. Matter of fact, I think the majority of his book was about playing all of those great British courses, and the last chapter (in which he played the 12 best courses in America) looked like an afterthought… — Jeff Rogers http://www.rogersnetwork.com/
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In DeadSolidPerfect, Quaid played a struggling tour player who ends up winning the US Open.
<clip This movie never did justice to the book. It is actually on of my favorite of all times. The only one that I ever have make me laugh out loud every time I read it. "Someone likes every shot" bk
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In DeadSolidPerfect, Quaid played a struggling tour player who ends up winning the US Open. One scene, where he **was** hustling a guy who ended up being his sponsor, was filmed at GlenGarden CC, my former club and boyhood home of Hogan and Nelson. Other FortWorth stuff, scenes at Cattlemen’s SteakHouse and Joe T Garcia’s, a favorite Mexican food place (bring cash, no credit cards). DeadSolidPerfect was written by famous FortWorth author and SI/GolfDigest columnist DanJenkins. Jenkins is probably best known for the football comic epic, Semi-Tough. I enjoyed the HBO version of DeadSolidPerfect. Oh, Quaid’s girlfriend for part of the story was an absolute stunner named CorrineBohrer. Jenkins and his wife made a cameo appearance gawking at her running naked down a hotel hallway to get ice. I sure wish I had a copy of that movie. I wonder if HBO would sell me one. Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Come to think of it, there was one other movie, I think an HBO job called "Dead Solid Perfect". It was really good and had of all people as a golf hustler Randy Quaid. I hadnt seen "Follow the Sun" for a long, long time and just the other day found it as I was flipping channels. I hadnt remembered it being that BAD. Guess I’ve been living in a cave….didnt know Bagger Vance was a book. On my way to the bookstore to find that sucker. Tom
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gotta agree with Bobby – although, the "A deer???" scene in the movie is great stuff Tom
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This movie [Dead Solid Perfect] never did justice to the book. It is actually on of my favorite of all times. The only one that I ever have make me laugh out loud every time I read it.
Agree, Bobby. Fiction or non-fiction, Jenkins is the world’s funniest golf writer. Are you familiar with his memoir about "Goat Hills"? — "Strange indeed, and sorrowful, are the streets of the City of Pain." — Rilke.
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Usually the movie takes certain liberties with the story as written in the book, and is a bit of a dissapointment if you read the book first. I have found that generally the book is 99/100 much better than the movie. The movie does allow you to picture the characters and surroundings, put faces to names, just like an RSG event!!!! I think "Braveheart" was the exception that proved the rule – just cannot picture little Mel Gibson as 6′ 7" William Wallace!!!! Bagger Vance was a Xmas Gift, and I thoroughly enjoyed it – one of the best books I’ve read in a long time IMHO, and it started me back reading golf books again, something I hadn’t done in over 25 years. I’ve since read "To the LInksland" by Michael Bamberger – fantastic read, and David Owen’s " My Unusual Game" – terrible read – didn’t like it at all.(Thanks to Patrick Inglis for lending me the books!!) David — RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Never read the book first and then see the movie. The movie will always disappoint. I read the book "The Firm" and thought it was great. I saw the movie afterwards and thought it sucked! Well it didn’t suck but I kept going "wait a sec… this didn’t happen in the book". On the other hand, my brother saw the movie first, loved it, then read the book afterwards. He thought the *book* sucked! Go figure.
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Come to think of it, there was one other movie, I think an HBO job called "Dead Solid Perfect". It was really good and had of all people as a golf hustler Randy Quaid. I hadnt seen "Follow the Sun" for a long, long time and just the other day found it as I was flipping channels. I hadnt remembered it being that BAD. Guess I’ve been living in a cave….didnt know Bagger Vance was a book. On my way to the bookstore to find that sucker. Tom
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Didn’t "Dead Solid Perfect" have Jim Belusi in it? Great golf flick……
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Come to think of it, there was one other movie, I think an HBO job called "Dead Solid Perfect". It was really good and had of all people as a golf hustler Randy Quaid. I hadnt seen "Follow the Sun" for a long, long time and just the other day found it as I was flipping channels. I hadnt remembered it being that BAD. Guess I’ve been living in a cave….didnt know Bagger Vance was a book. On my way to the bookstore to find that sucker. Tom
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I never really thought of Kenny Lee (the Randy Quaid character) as a hustler so much as one of those guys who never gets his name in lights on the tour (regular cut-misser, struggles to keep his card). The interesting thing is that it came out a few years before Tin Cup and I found myself comparing a lot of similarities between the two, but in the end, I found each one entertaining. — Allen Van Camp (To reply, replace spammers-are-scum with earthlink) Fairway? What’s a fairway?!?!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Come to think of it, there was one other movie, I think an HBO job called "Dead Solid Perfect". It was really good and had of all people as a golf hustler Randy Quaid. I hadnt seen "Follow the Sun" for a long, long time and just the other day found it as I was flipping channels. I hadnt remembered it being that BAD. Guess I’ve been living in a cave….didnt know Bagger Vance was a book. On my way to the bookstore to find that sucker. Tom
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I am really looking forward to it as well. I am about 1/3 of the way through the book and will probably finish it by the end of the weekend but I can already see that if Redford stayed true to the book, this is going to be something special. However, I am really looking forward to the project that hasn’t been announced yet. So here is my plea to all those Hollywood types out there: Please pick up a copy of a book by Troon McCallister called "The Green." — Allen Van Camp (To reply, replace spammers-are-scum with earthlink) Fairway? What’s a fairway?!?!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The previews look really good – I’m betting it has a real chance to be the best golf movie ever. It’s nice to see someone make a serious golf movie, instead of a farce like "Caddyshack". This may be the first one since "Follow the Sun". — http://home.midsouth.rr.com/joecartpath RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/reedj.htm
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I think TinCup was as good. I saw MattDamon on GolfTalkLive. He and Kessler spent an hour talking about how he had to learn to play from ground zero. Now he is hooked and plays with his dad all the time. His short term goal is to beat his dad. With RobtRedford involved, this should be a good one. Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Saw the ads last night for the new golf movie called Legend of Bagger Vance. (I think that was the name). It has Will Smith and Matt Damon and looked like it might be worth seeing. Has anyone else heard anything about this flick? How come there is so few good golf movies? Best ever of course is Caddy Shack. Tom
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Saw the ads last night for the new golf movie called Legend of Bagger Vance. (I think that was the name). It has Will Smith and Matt Damon and looked like it might be worth seeing. Has anyone else heard anything about this flick? How come there is so few good golf movies? Best ever of course is Caddy Shack. Tom
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This was a great book…..Redford is going to have a tough time doing the book justice on the big screen.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Saw the ads last night for the new golf movie called Legend of Bagger Vance. (I think that was the name). It has Will Smith and Matt Damon and looked like it might be worth seeing. Has anyone else heard anything about this flick? How come there is so few good golf movies? Best ever of course is Caddy Shack. Tom
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This was a great book…..Redford is going to have a tough time doing the book justice on the big screen.
It’s possible, though. I loved the book, but didn’t see anything that would need to be changed to make a great movie of it. If Redford stays true to the book, then I’ll love the movie. — Jeff Rogers http://www.rogersnetwork.com/
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The previews look really good – I’m betting it has a real chance to be the best golf movie ever. It’s nice to see someone make a serious golf movie, instead of a farce like "Caddyshack". This may be the first one since "Follow the Sun". — http://home.midsouth.rr.com/joecartpath RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/reedj.htm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This was a great book…..Redford is going to have a tough time doing the book justice on the big screen. It’s possible, though. I loved the book, but didn’t see anything that would need to be changed to make a great movie of it. If Redford stays true to the book, then I’ll love the movie. — Jeff Rogers http://www.rogersnetwork.com/
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It will be interesting to see how they handle some of the more surreal scenes. I thought they did a good job of casting the film. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This was a great book…..Redford is going to have a tough time doing the book justice on the big screen. It’s possible, though. I loved the book, but didn’t see anything that would need to be changed to make a great movie of it. If Redford stays true to the book, then I’ll love the movie. — Jeff Rogers http://www.rogersnetwork.com/