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It’s a private club. I’ve been there three days a week for 5 years. They frown on us bringing our own refreshments. They always provide water and cold towels. Yesterday was a surprise change in policy. Especially when the temperature is 108? You can also freeze them the night before. It’s not allowed. That’s bullshit. I wish someone would tell me I can’t bring water with me.
I don’t see why a private club can’t prevent you from bringing your own water bottle, since some sports stadiums do this, but I think they are inviting a disaster. Anyone who suffers from dehydration on the course would probably have pretty good grounds for a lawsuit. Temperatures where I live don’t reach the heatstroke range very often, but most courses are very concerned about water. A couple I play at send out rangers with coolers full of ice water for players on hot days. My regular course took a lot of "heat", after the park district superintendant commandeered their water jugs for a private function on one hot day, and they wound up replacing the jugs and installing more of them, and is now very good about cleaning and refilling them every morning and topping them up on busy days. If this were my club I’d have some words with the management about the potential for a major loss, then check whether my membership might make me liable for damages caused by the club’s poor decisions. — http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery )
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They actually sell bottles of water now at the supermarket. Why would you show up at a course or a driving range without at least one? It’s a private club. I’ve been there three days a week for 5 years. They frown on us bringing our own refreshments. They always provide water and cold towels. Yesterday was a surprise change in policy. Especially when the temperature is 108? You can also freeze them the night before. It’s not allowed.
That’s bullshit. I wish someone would tell me I can’t bring water with me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s amazing that golf courses and driving ranges get away with as much as they do with their on-course drinking water. How is the drinking fountain at my club different from the tap water at my house? Brad
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Great idea. Haven’t used My camelbak in a while but with record temps in the Boston area will have to try that. Thanks Ivan
You’re welcome…it works great. I have the hose extension that I used when I used to commute to work on my recumbent bike (22 miles one way). Water for that trip was greatly needed! Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://www.rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=claryd
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We use the coolers at our club. Not only that, all our drinking water comes in from a water truck, even for the club-house. The reason being that the neighborhood is all on well water. The public safety regulations state that you have to have the water tested every single day if you want to serve it. It’s crazy. We’re surrounded by $3Million homes with the same water.
Ummm. I recall that the testing period is dependent on the population served, ie, anything over 25 "customers" become a "public" water supply, and would need to be tested every 6 months….over 100,000 needs it once per week……that kind of a sliding scale. In truth, it’s all about the county bureaucrats. They’re so pissed that the wealthiest part of the county isn’t on county water and sewage, meaning, they can’t charge them an arm and a leg for it to pay for everybody else’s. I bet it’s a similar situation in your area. It’s all about money.
that, and "empire building". The health department needs to insure they are funded by finding problems, or potential problems. The water suppliers need to be funded to ensure profits, and the engineering firms want to sell more equipment, so they paly into and support this kind of thinking. Example: If you have a private well that contains nitrates over their limit, you must treat EVERY SINGLE SPIGOT — not just one at the sink, or all inside the house — all of them — even the spigot that you use to water your flowers and water your horses….after all, they say, you MIGHT take a drink out of that hose bib…<G. Like Rush says, "Follow the money!"
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It was 108 dgrees yesterday and I wanted to go to the range for a hour to hit balls. Both nearby drinking fountains were shut down. All 10 drinking fountains at our 27 hole facility were shut down. The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains. About 2 weeks ago a teenager died hours after playing in a Jr Golf event at a nearby club. Dr’s have suspected toxicology from chemicals or unsanitized water
This mornings Arizona Republic article (front page — Thursday) says they did not find any of the bacteria in the boys body…….
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The fountains are the cooler type that give you freezing water. We do not use pots. The fountains dispense the same plumbed water that is used inside the clubhouse.
You mean they sit out in the sun, all day, every day? Gee, that is somewhat different than your house, isn’t it? People, we need to wake up. To bacteria, 50 deg water that is sitting still and out of the direct sunlight is a haven for bacterial growth. No, I’m not talking about "bad" bacteria necessarily, but nonetheless, bacteria growth. If you read the newspapers here in Phoenix, you would have seen that they found some bacteria in the water, but not e coli. They are concerned that because they foud one type of bacteria, there MIGHT be some BAD stuff, too, and they just missed it. Bacteria is everywhere — ask your pathologist what the bacteria count
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They actually sell bottles of water now at the supermarket. Why would you show up at a course or a driving range without at least one? It’s a private club. I’ve been there three days a week for 5 years. They frown on us bringing our own refreshments.
Yes, but the DO allow you to bring your own water, I would bet. I, too, live in AZ, and I have yet to go to a course where they have said anything about my two frozen bottles of water. Maybe you should ask them? I see folks doing that all of the time. BTW, my course also sells water off the beverage cart, and they also provide cups, ice and water at the clubhouse — free.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why not bring your own water? It was 108 dgrees yesterday and I wanted to go to the range for a hour to hit balls. Both nearby drinking fountains were shut down. All 10 drinking fountains at our 27 hole facility were shut down. The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains. About 2 weeks ago a teenager died hours after playing in a Jr Golf event at a nearby club. Dr’s have suspected toxicology from chemicals or unsanitized water but tests have all come back negative. The Health Dept has decided we need to install the expensive water and ice dispensing machines like you see at McDonalds, or else we cannot serve or have access to the facility’s water on the course. We do not use the jugs, that need to be fillled every day and brought out, we have actual cold drinking fountains. Guess they may suspect the integrity of the water in the pipes or something. I hit balls for 20 minutes and then couldn’t take it anymore. I usually drink about 12 glasses of water during my 2.5 hour rounds here in the summer. Now I might die waiting for a cart girl to bring me a soda that I don’t want. Brad
We use the coolers at our club. Not only that, all our drinking water comes in from a water truck, even for the club-house. The reason being that the neighborhood is all on well water. The public safety regulations state that you have to have the water tested every single day if you want to serve it. It’s crazy. We’re surrounded by $3Million homes with the same water. In truth, it’s all about the county bureaucrats. They’re so pissed that the wealthiest part of the county isn’t on county water and sewage, meaning, they can’t charge them an arm and a leg for it to pay for everybody else’s. I bet it’s a similar situation in your area. It’s all about money.
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I put a CamelBak in the garment pocket on the one course I play that doesn’t have enough water. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://www.rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=claryd
Great idea. Haven’t used My camelbak in a while but with record temps in the Boston area will have to try that. Thanks Ivan
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I put a CamelBak in the garment pocket on the one course I play that doesn’t have enough water. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://www.rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=claryd
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Why not bring your own water?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It was 108 dgrees yesterday and I wanted to go to the range for a hour to hit balls. Both nearby drinking fountains were shut down. All 10 drinking fountains at our 27 hole facility were shut down. The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains. About 2 weeks ago a teenager died hours after playing in a Jr Golf event at a nearby club. Dr’s have suspected toxicology from chemicals or unsanitized water but tests have all come back negative. The Health Dept has decided we need to install the expensive water and ice dispensing machines like you see at McDonalds, or else we cannot serve or have access to the facility’s water on the course. We do not use the jugs, that need to be fillled every day and brought out, we have actual cold drinking fountains. Guess they may suspect the integrity of the water in the pipes or something. I hit balls for 20 minutes and then couldn’t take it anymore. I usually drink about 12 glasses of water during my 2.5 hour rounds here in the summer. Now I might die waiting for a cart girl to bring me a soda that I don’t want. Brad
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains.
Come to NYC Brad. We have the best drinking water in the country. I laugh at those who buy water when we have such great water coming out of our taps. Of course, when I play in the city, I bring along Gator or Power Ade I usually drink about 12 glasses of water during my 2.5 hour rounds here in the summer.
I have no conception whatsoever of what a 2 1/2 hour round would be like. The fastest round I ever played was around 3 hours 50 minutes. Are you the only one on the course? Yes. When it is this hot nobody plays after the early tee times. You can pull into our club and there are a total of 7 cars there. I’ll play one ball in 2 hours. Two balls in 2.5 hours. If I’m a twosome, it’s about 2 hours 45 minutes. A Threesome is 3 hours. Just hit and go, everyone in his own cart. I won’t play in a foursome from June to Aug. Too much standing around. Just too hot. Watching three guys do their plumb-bob crap in 110 degree heat drives me crazy. Brad
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They actually sell bottles of water now at the supermarket. Why would you show up at a course or a driving range without at least one? It’s a private club. I’ve been there three days a week for 5 years. They frown on us bringing our own refreshments. They always provide water and cold towels. Yesterday was a surprise change in policy.
Well, that is a problem. And I would suggest to them that until the problem is fixed, that they allow you to bring your own water. Although even the private courses I’ve played have never had a problem with bringing a water bottle. Especially when the temperature is 108? You can also freeze them the night before. It’s not allowed. It’s amazing that golf courses and driving ranges get away with as much as they do with their on-course drinking water. How is the drinking fountain at my club different from the tap water at my house? Brad
I don’t know about your house. The basic problem is that most drinking facilities are left outside, and seldom cleaned/disinfected. A water fountain with good pressure, connected to a verifiably good potable water wource is probably the best alternative (aside from a drink girl!). Most courses out here have large insulated jugs of ice water (sometimes nicely built into a wooden structure). Take a *close* look at the tap on them. You might think twice about taking a drink from it. Perhaps it’s not as big a problem in the AZ climate.
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The basic problem is that most drinking facilities are left outside, and seldom cleaned/disinfected. A water fountain with good pressure, connected to a verifiably good potable water wource is probably the best alternative (aside from a drink girl!). Most courses out here have large insulated jugs of ice water (sometimes nicely built into a wooden structure). Take a *close* look at the tap on them. You might think twice about taking a drink from it. Perhaps it’s not as big a problem in the AZ climate.
The fountains are the cooler type that give you freezing water. We do not use pots. The fountains dispense the same plumbed water that is used inside the clubhouse. Brad
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They actually sell bottles of water now at the supermarket. Why would you show up at a course or a driving range without at least one?
It’s a private club. I’ve been there three days a week for 5 years. They frown on us bringing our own refreshments. They always provide water and cold towels. Yesterday was a surprise change in policy. Especially when the temperature is 108? You can also freeze them the night before.
It’s not allowed. It’s amazing that golf courses and driving ranges get away with as much as they do with their on-course drinking water.
How is the drinking fountain at my club different from the tap water at my house? Brad – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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I used to live in Phoenix, Az (Glendale) back in 95-96. There is no way I could have survived playing in June, July and August without the water fountains working. And, if there is not any breeze blowing, forget it, no matter how much water there is to drink. I usually played Maryvale over on Indian School Road. They have plenty of water fountains. Whenever I would play a "new" course I was not familiar with, I would put a 2 qt water cooler on my pull cart or take a larger cooler if I rode in a cart. I remember my skin feeling like plastic after playing in that frying pan. I am so glad I moved "back east". Arizona golf is great 9 months out of 12 but, those 3 months are just as bad with heat as Alaska is with cold during the winter. — John R "I’ll hire a teacher when I find one who can beat me" (Lee Trevino)
It was 108 dgrees yesterday and I wanted to go to the range for a hour to hit balls. Both nearby drinking fountains were shut down. All 10 drinking fountains at our 27 hole facility were shut down. The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains.
<snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I hit balls for 20 minutes and then couldn’t take it anymore. I usually drink about 12 glasses of water during my 2.5 hour rounds here in the summer. Now I might die waiting for a cart girl to bring me a soda that I don’t want. Brad
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The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains.
Come to NYC Brad. We have the best drinking water in the country. I laugh at those who buy water when we have such great water coming out of our taps. Of course, when I play in the city, I bring along Gator or Power Ade I usually drink about 12 glasses of water during my 2.5 hour rounds here in the summer.
I have no conception whatsoever of what a 2 1/2 hour round would be like. The fastest round I ever played was around 3 hours 50 minutes. Are you the only one on the course?
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I used to live in Phoenix, Az (Glendale) back in 95-96. There is no way I could have survived playing in June, July and August without the water fountains working. And, if there is not any breeze blowing, forget it, no matter how much water there is to drink. I usually played Maryvale over on Indian School Road. They have plenty of water fountains. Whenever I would play a "new" course I was not familiar with, I would put a 2 qt water cooler on my pull cart or take a larger cooler if I rode in a cart. I remember my skin feeling like plastic after playing in that frying pan. I am so glad I moved "back east". Arizona golf is great 9 months out of 12 but, those 3 months are just as bad with heat as Alaska is with cold during the winter. — John Roberson "I’ll hire a teacher when I find one who can beat me" (Lee Trevino)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It was 108 dgrees yesterday and I wanted to go to the range for a hour to hit balls. Both nearby drinking fountains were shut down. All 10 drinking fountains at our 27 hole facility were shut down. The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains. About 2 weeks ago a teenager died hours after playing in a Jr Golf event at a nearby club. Dr’s have suspected toxicology from chemicals or unsanitized water but tests have all come back negative. The Health Dept has decided we need to install the expensive water and ice dispensing machines like you see at McDonalds, or else we cannot serve or have access to the facility’s water on the course. We do not use the jugs, that need to be fillled every day and brought out, we have actual cold drinking fountains. Guess they may suspect the integrity of the water in the pipes or something. I hit balls for 20 minutes and then couldn’t take it anymore. I usually drink about 12 glasses of water during my 2.5 hour rounds here in the summer. Now I might die waiting for a cart girl to bring me a soda that I don’t want. Brad
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They actually sell bottles of water now at the supermarket. Why would you show up at a course or a driving range without at least one? Especially when the temperature is 108? You can also freeze them the night before. It’s amazing that golf courses and driving ranges get away with as much as they do with their on-course drinking water. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It was 108 dgrees yesterday and I wanted to go to the range for a hour to hit balls. Both nearby drinking fountains were shut down. All 10 drinking fountains at our 27 hole facility were shut down. The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains. About 2 weeks ago a teenager died hours after playing in a Jr Golf event at a nearby club. Dr’s have suspected toxicology from chemicals or unsanitized water but tests have all come back negative. The Health Dept has decided we need to install the expensive water and ice dispensing machines like you see at McDonalds, or else we cannot serve or have access to the facility’s water on the course. We do not use the jugs, that need to be fillled every day and brought out, we have actual cold drinking fountains. Guess they may suspect the integrity of the water in the pipes or something. I hit balls for 20 minutes and then couldn’t take it anymore. I usually drink about 12 glasses of water during my 2.5 hour rounds here in the summer. Now I might die waiting for a cart girl to bring me a soda that I don’t want. Brad
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It was 108 dgrees yesterday and I wanted to go to the range for a hour to hit balls. Both nearby drinking fountains were shut down. All 10 drinking fountains at our 27 hole facility were shut down. The AZ Health Dept decided that our club could not guarantee the integrity of the water delivery to the fountains. About 2 weeks ago a teenager died hours after playing in a Jr Golf event at a nearby club. Dr’s have suspected toxicology from chemicals or unsanitized water but tests have all come back negative. The Health Dept has decided we need to install the expensive water and ice dispensing machines like you see at McDonalds, or else we cannot serve or have access to the facility’s water on the course. We do not use the jugs, that need to be fillled every day and brought out, we have actual cold drinking fountains. Guess they may suspect the integrity of the water in the pipes or something. I hit balls for 20 minutes and then couldn’t take it anymore. I usually drink about 12 glasses of water during my 2.5 hour rounds here in the summer. Now I might die waiting for a cart girl to bring me a soda that I don’t want. Brad