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Yes Mary, it’s a gorgeous sunny day here today and yesterday too.  The temps are going to stay up for a few more days too.  I’m just loving it!  I hope it sticks around for awhile too.  I know, we never seem to get a nice Spring anymore.  As you said, it jumps from cold to hot.  I love Spring.  I hope it stays this way for a long time.  :-)  Enjoy your day. Hugs, Di – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Diane, I guess you will be sunbathing in your back yard today with this warm weather of last few days and for next few days :) . Weekend is to be in mid 70’s and sunny – outdoor cafes are busy, golfers are back in the swing and down by the lake at the Beaches, lots of people walking around. Today on my balcony which faces south, it was 84F around noon and could be a couple of degrees warmer where you are. The temp has gone down to 76F on my balcony now that its around 2 pm, and the sun is not shining on the thermometer. Evening and overnight temps are cool, not like hot humid nights in summer when it often doesn’t go below 80F. We don’t seem to get any spring any more. It seems to go from cold to hot overnight. I have been cleaning up my window air conditioner in my living room getting ready for summer. I love air conditioning. When it gets to the 80’s and up, my body doesn’t adapt very well and sometimes I feel faint when I go outside. But for now, the weather in 70’s is fine – if only it would stay that way. Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi Diane, I guess you will be sunbathing in your back yard today with this warm weather of last few days and for next few days :) . Weekend is to be in mid 70’s and sunny – outdoor cafes are busy, golfers are back in the swing and down by the lake at the Beaches, lots of people walking around. Today on my balcony which faces south, it was 84F around noon and could be a couple of degrees warmer where you are. The temp has gone down to 76F on my balcony now that its around 2 pm, and the sun is not shining on the thermometer. Evening and overnight temps are cool, not like hot humid nights in summer when it often doesn’t go below 80F. We don’t seem to get any spring any more. It seems to go from cold to hot overnight. I have been cleaning up my window air conditioner in my living room getting ready for summer. I love air conditioning. When it gets to the 80’s and up, my body doesn’t adapt very well and sometimes I feel faint when I go outside. But for now, the weather in 70’s is fine – if only it would stay that way. Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We’ve been having flurries on and off for the past few days too, Mary. We lived in the north end of Toronto.  If I drove I would’ve gotten lost there too.  :-)  When I lived in the U.S. I lived in CT. We’ve had rain for the past few days off and on. – April showers. No snow, but some areas north of here got snow and yesterday Kalamazoo,Michigan got quite a lot of snow according to videos on TV weather last night. So did Montana and Oregon and upper New York. Its to be 57F in a few days so they say. For April it has certainly been lower than average temps.  It seems to be the same in many northern states. The north end of Toronto covers a lot of territory but if you lived below Steeles. Ave which is the north boundary of the city and if it was slightly north west of Yonge, or off Yonge st. somewhere, I would probably know where it was. Yonge St. is the city’s dividing line. I know almost all areas east of Yonge but only know a few west end areas. Its strange but most people here are either east enders or west enders as if it was two different cities. Many people are born and live in certain areas, and might move away when they start to work, but a lot go back to the areas where they used to live after they marry and have a family. I would think CT would be a nice place to live.Dont you get quite a lot of snow there? Mary

We had some rain too mixed with some hail on Wed.  Today is sunny.  Our temps are supposed to go up on Mon. to 11C and then 14C on Tues.  I can’t wait.  CT is very nice to live in.  Yes, we could get a lot of snow.  One year in the 80’s we had a blizzard the second week in April and then a year or two after that, we got another blizzard in the third week of April. Crazy weather. Di — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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We’ve been having flurries on and off for the past few days too, Mary.  We lived in the north end of Toronto.  If I drove I would’ve gotten lost there too.  :-)  When I lived in the U.S. I lived in CT.

We’ve had rain for the past few days off and on. – April showers. No snow, but some areas north of here got snow and yesterday Kalamazoo,Michigan got quite a lot of snow according to videos on TV weather last night. So did Montana and Oregon and upper New York. Its to be 57F in a few days so they say. For April it has certainly been lower than average temps.  It seems to be the same in many northern states. The north end of Toronto covers a lot of territory but if you lived below Steeles. Ave which is the north boundary of the city and if it was slightly north west of Yonge, or off Yonge st. somewhere, I would probably know where it was. Yonge St. is the city’s dividing line. I know almost all areas east of Yonge but only know a few west end areas. Its strange but most people here are either east enders or west enders as if it was two different cities. Many people are born and live in certain areas, and might move away when they start to work, but a lot go back to the areas where they used to live after they marry and have a family. I would think CT would be a nice place to live.Dont you get quite a lot of snow there? Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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We’ve been having flurries on and off for the past few days too, Mary.  We lived in the north end of Toronto.  If I drove I would’ve gotten lost there too.  :-)  When I lived in the U.S. I lived in CT. Di – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, we didn’t get any snow accumulation as was predicted, though snow belts 60 miles and beyond from Toronto did. It is 36F today and cold and below normal temps for this time of year. should be around 52F. (It was 52F in January -LOL). I went for a short walk today and headed towards the store, when suddenly heavy snowflurries started and was like that for 10 mins. or so. I was in the store for approx. 20 mins. and when I came out it was nice and sunny and no sign of snow flurries. There is no snow on roads or sidewalks here. Places like New York state had snow and lower temps than here in the last few days. You must get the same weather as Detroit as you are only across the bridge or tunnel.On a map, you can see that most of Michigan is north of Toronto and many other places in Ontario and Windsor is level with the extreme lower end of Michigan. So after all the predictions about snow, we didn’t get any – just snowflurries off and on since Thursday -so far at least! Its so unpredictable at this time of year. You never know. When you lived in Toronto, what area did you live in? I’m in the East end and get lost if I go to west end. Where did you live in the US? Mary

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Well, we didn’t get any snow accumulation as was predicted, though snow belts 60 miles and beyond from Toronto did. It is 36F today and cold and below normal temps for this time of year. should be around 52F. (It was 52F in January -LOL). I went for a short walk today and headed towards the store, when suddenly heavy snowflurries started and was like that for 10 mins. or so. I was in the store for approx. 20 mins. and when I came out it was nice and sunny and no sign of snow flurries. There is no snow on roads or sidewalks here. Places like New York state had snow and lower temps than here in the last few days. You must get the same weather as Detroit as you are only across the bridge or tunnel.On a map, you can see that most of Michigan is north of Toronto and many other places in Ontario and Windsor is level with the extreme lower end of Michigan. So after all the predictions about snow, we didn’t get any – just snowflurries off and on since Thursday -so far at least! Its so unpredictable at this time of year. You never know. When you lived in Toronto, what area did you live in? I’m in the East end and get lost if I go to west end. Where did you live in the US? Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip been raining there. No wonder the weatherman is sometimes wrong. Today its raining and dull and foggy, but its around 50F. My balcony thermometer is in Fahrenheit. But many can be found in stores in both F and C and most Toronto TV stations give both temperatures when they give the weather forecast. :) Mary I know what you mean Mary.  I remember that happening too.  Dry, then rain, then dry again.  It’s about 50C here today with the sun shining.  I hope we don’t get snow at the end of the week.  :-(  Take care. No sun here today but its around 54F and quite mild. There is a pond a little bit to the west of the back of my apt. building where I face, and ducks and geese go on it. They have been gone for the last couple of months or so as the pond was frozen. Some came back a couple of days ago but many more are back today as the ice is completely melted. The weather forecast was on CityTV cable news a short time ago and the weather girl said "we are having unpredictable weather as we usually do in April" – which we know :) and said there could be snow flurries or some snow this week. I notice the temp on Thurs. is supposed to be 0C and that temp is often when you can get snow. We will have to see when the time comes. Mary

This is what I heard too and I don’t like it one bit.  :-(  It’s been so nice out I wanted it to stay nice.  Bummer! Di — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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<snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – been raining there. No wonder the weatherman is sometimes wrong. Today its raining and dull and foggy, but its around 50F. My balcony thermometer is in Fahrenheit. But many can be found in stores in both F and C and most Toronto TV stations give both temperatures when they give the weather forecast. :) Mary I know what you mean Mary.  I remember that happening too.  Dry, then rain, then dry again.  It’s about 50C here today with the sun shining.  I hope we don’t get snow at the end of the week.  :-(  Take care.

No sun here today but its around 54F and quite mild. There is a pond a little bit to the west of the back of my apt. building where I face, and ducks and geese go on it. They have been gone for the last couple of months or so as the pond was frozen. Some came back a couple of days ago but many more are back today as the ice is completely melted. The weather forecast was on CityTV cable news a short time ago and the weather girl said "we are having unpredictable weather as we usually do in April" – which we know :) and said there could be snow flurries or some snow this week. I notice the temp on Thurs. is supposed to be 0C and that temp is often when you can get snow. We will have to see when the time comes. Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It was a little chilly out yesterday with wind also.  They predict snow for Fri. and Sat. with 0C temps.  I can’t wait for May.  That’s my favorite month, with the trees budding and flowers coming up.  I also love summer, but not the humidity. Well, on the weather channel today it forecasts some snow for next Saturday, but not for Friday. Have to wait and see when the time comes. It could change.You get a little more accurate weather on local TV news and weather at 6 pm and 11 pm. The problem is, Toronto is so spread out that it can be snowing in one area of the city and not in another. Sometimes it can be clear when I leave home to drive to the doctors office, and she is about 15 miles west of me and it can start snowing when I am half way to her place and have no signs of snow when I get to her area. It can mean snow north of the city but not in the city as its about 30 miles acorss the city and 20 miles north and south.  It can happen that way sometimes. Sometimes even raining when I leave home and get to a couple of blocks west and its never been raining there. No wonder the weatherman is sometimes wrong. Today its raining and dull and foggy, but its around 50F. My balcony thermometer is in Fahrenheit. But many can be found in stores in both F and C and most Toronto TV stations give both temperatures when they give the weather forecast. :) Mary

I know what you mean Mary.  I remember that happening too.  Dry, then rain, then dry again.  It’s about 50C here today with the sun shining.  I hope we don’t get snow at the end of the week.  :-(  Take care. Hugs, Di — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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It was a little chilly out yesterday with wind also.  They predict snow for Fri. and Sat. with 0C temps.  I can’t wait for May.  That’s my favorite month, with the trees budding and flowers coming up.  I also love summer, but not the humidity. Hugs, Di – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I spoke too soon yesterday and we had a chilly wind.  I was able to wear my spring jacket too with a sweater and no gloves or hat.  They are predicting 0C on Friday with snow.  We’ll see.  I hope not.  Take care. Its very unpredictable at this time of year. It can go up and down overnight from 30F to 70F (a few degrees higher where you are). The only time of year you can count on it being hot is from mid June to mid September. In July and Aug. you can count on it being even hotter with high humidity and thunderstorms are common in August due to high humidity. It was quite cool here today but didn’t need my winter jacket. Wore my spring jacket to drive to Home Depot but had to park my car pretty far away from a mall I went to later on, and noticed it was a bit cold. I don’t feel cold very easily, but feel hot easily. :) Mary

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It was a little chilly out yesterday with wind also.  They predict snow for Fri. and Sat. with 0C temps.  I can’t wait for May.  That’s my favorite month, with the trees budding and flowers coming up.  I also love summer, but not the humidity.

About a week or so ago as I was driving to my house I finally realized that the mountain was green again.  The redbuds and dogwoods in the woods next to my yard are still blooming together.  I love spring!  Oh, last week we had lots of days in the 80’s!  I’ve been running the A/C quite a few days. Tony — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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It was a little chilly out yesterday with wind also.  They predict snow for Fri. and Sat. with 0C temps.  I can’t wait for May.  That’s my favorite month, with the trees budding and flowers coming up.  I also love summer, but not the humidity. About a week or so ago as I was driving to my house I finally realized that the mountain was green again.  The redbuds and dogwoods in the woods next to my yard are still blooming together.  I love spring!  Oh, last week we had lots of days in the 80’s!  I’ve been running the A/C quite a few days. Tony

Don’t you just love the buds!  Everything coming alive again.  I wish it was in the 80′ here.  We had one or two days like that and then it got cool again. Hugs, Di — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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It was a little chilly out yesterday with wind also.  They predict snow for Fri. and Sat. with 0C temps.  I can’t wait for May.  That’s my favorite month, with the trees budding and flowers coming up.  I also love summer, but not the humidity.

Well, on the weather channel today it forecasts some snow for next Saturday, but not for Friday. Have to wait and see when the time comes. It could change.You get a little more accurate weather on local TV news and weather at 6 pm and 11 pm. The problem is, Toronto is so spread out that it can be snowing in one area of the city and not in another. Sometimes it can be clear when I leave home to drive to the doctors office, and she is about 15 miles west of me and it can start snowing when I am half way to her place and have no signs of snow when I get to her area. It can mean snow north of the city but not in the city as its about 30 miles acorss the city and 20 miles north and south.  It can happen that way sometimes. Sometimes even raining when I leave home and get to a couple of blocks west and its never been raining there. No wonder the weatherman is sometimes wrong. Today its raining and dull and foggy, but its around 50F. My balcony thermometer is in Fahrenheit. But many can be found in stores in both F and C and most Toronto TV stations give both temperatures when they give the weather forecast. :) Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I spoke too soon yesterday and we had a chilly wind.  I was able to wear my spring jacket too with a sweater and no gloves or hat.  They are predicting 0C on Friday with snow.  We’ll see.  I hope not.  Take care.

Its very unpredictable at this time of year. It can go up and down overnight from 30F to 70F (a few degrees higher where you are). The only time of year you can count on it being hot is from mid June to mid September. In July and Aug. you can count on it being even hotter with high humidity and thunderstorms are common in August due to high humidity. It was quite cool here today but didn’t need my winter jacket. Wore my spring jacket to drive to Home Depot but had to park my car pretty far away from a mall I went to later on, and noticed it was a bit cold. I don’t feel cold very easily, but feel hot easily. :) Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hugs, Di Yesterday was about 50, but windy.  I don’t like the wind.  It makes it chillier.  Today is gorgeous out with the sun shining and no wind. It’s supposed to rain this weekend, but be warmer too.  Don heard we’re supposed to get snow in April, but as you said, it would melt fast.  That’s good. :-)  I do love the snow though.  I’d rather have it snow than rain. Most people who drive would rather have rain than snow. Snow looks beautiful and makes the city look very clean but it can create so many bad car accidents and I don’t like to drive on slippery roads and black ice is even worse. There is a stretch of the 401 between London and Chatham, where there have been some serious accidents in bad weather because of gravel shoulders. Ont. Government were supposed to pave some parts of it which is what they should be doing.  Today was quite good weather here – around 58F and not windy. I even put my spring jacket on with a cotton sweater underneath. Hat and gloves not needed. The weather says maybe some snow flurries next week, but who knows. We get these unpredictable weathers because of being between two weather patterns and because of being near the Great Lakes. We are situated between cold air from the north and warm air from Gulf of Mexico. We sometimes get snow in April, but won’t last long. We also get April showers. Have a nice day, Mary. You too Diane. :) Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I spoke too soon yesterday and we had a chilly wind.  I was able to wear my spring jacket too with a sweater and no gloves or hat.  They are predicting 0C on Friday with snow.  We’ll see.  I hope not.  Take care. Hugs, Di – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday was about 50, but windy.  I don’t like the wind.  It makes it chillier.  Today is gorgeous out with the sun shining and no wind. It’s supposed to rain this weekend, but be warmer too.  Don heard we’re supposed to get snow in April, but as you said, it would melt fast.  That’s good. :-)  I do love the snow though.  I’d rather have it snow than rain. Most people who drive would rather have rain than snow. Snow looks beautiful and makes the city look very clean but it can create so many bad car accidents and I don’t like to drive on slippery roads and black ice is even worse. There is a stretch of the 401 between London and Chatham, where there have been some serious accidents in bad weather because of gravel shoulders. Ont. Government were supposed to pave some parts of it which is what they should be doing.  Today was quite good weather here – around 58F and not windy. I even put my spring jacket on with a cotton sweater underneath. Hat and gloves not needed. The weather says maybe some snow flurries next week, but who knows. We get these unpredictable weathers because of being between two weather patterns and because of being near the Great Lakes. We are situated between cold air from the north and warm air from Gulf of Mexico. We sometimes get snow in April, but won’t last long. We also get April showers. Have a nice day, Mary. You too Diane. :) Mary

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Yesterday was about 50, but windy.  I don’t like the wind.  It makes it chillier.  Today is gorgeous out with the sun shining and no wind. It’s supposed to rain this weekend, but be warmer too.  Don heard we’re supposed to get snow in April, but as you said, it would melt fast.  That’s good. :-)  I do love the snow though.  I’d rather have it snow than rain.

Most people who drive would rather have rain than snow. Snow looks beautiful and makes the city look very clean but it can create so many bad car accidents and I don’t like to drive on slippery roads and black ice is even worse. There is a stretch of the 401 between London and Chatham, where there have been some serious accidents in bad weather because of gravel shoulders. Ont. Government were supposed to pave some parts of it which is what they should be doing.  Today was quite good weather here – around 58F and not windy. I even put my spring jacket on with a cotton sweater underneath. Hat and gloves not needed. The weather says maybe some snow flurries next week, but who knows. We get these unpredictable weathers because of being between two weather patterns and because of being near the Great Lakes. We are situated between cold air from the north and warm air from Gulf of Mexico. We sometimes get snow in April, but won’t last long. We also get April showers. Have a nice day, Mary.

You too Diane. :) Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Yesterday was about 50, but windy.  I don’t like the wind.  It makes it chillier.  Today is gorgeous out with the sun shining and no wind.  It’s supposed to rain this weekend, but be warmer too.  Don heard we’re supposed to get snow in April, but as you said, it would melt fast.  That’s good. :-)  I do love the snow though.  I’d rather have it snow than rain.  Have a nice day, Mary. Hugs, Di – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Mary, Yes, it was in the 80’s and just gorgeous!  Yesterday was 52 here also, but windy and a little chilly.  Not sure what today is going to be like, but it’s sunny at least.  I’ll just bet those golfers are out there already. :-)  Don heard we may have snow in April this year.  I hope not.  I don’t want it to get that cold again.  Have a nice day, Mary. I figured you’d be pleased with the temp in the 80’s. Yesterday it was around 48F but sunny and nice. Today was around 52F, and also sunny and nice. It wasn’t windy yesterday or today and that can make a big difference. So 52F and not much of a wind is OK with me. We can have sometimes have snow in April, which can caused traffic problems and bad roads, but one good thing is the snow does not last long on the road as the ground has warmed up some, so if its cold, it is not likely to be cold as it was in Feb.. There is no snow anywhere when I look from my balcony and I am in a high rise on a high floor and face a field. I can see Lake Ontario in the distance though its a few miles away, but its only a short drive to get to the lake, but its pretty busy as lots of people like to go to the lake. I would like to have a house within walking distance of the lake, but the prices are very high. Mary

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Hi Diane. I thought about you yesterday when watching weather on local TV and said Windsor was 82F yesterday – Pretty good consider we are still in last days of March. It was around 68F here yesterday so not as hot as Windsor, as I told you Windsor is always a few degrees warmer than here but not usually 12 degrees more. I had to go by bus somewhere yesterday and had a semi winter jacket on and I was waiting in the sun and I was sweating. Several high school students who were waiting for the bus had short shorts on and on the local news was live pics of outdoor cafe patios with summer umbrellas and people having a drink or coffee. On Sunday I talked to a cousin on the phone who lives in Windsor. He said it was 70F a couple of days before and he’s been playing some golf. Its been around 55-62F here till yesterday so that enough for the golfers to get on golf courses. So its been pretty good,considering winter didn’t begin till mid Jan. this year. It can still snow, but won’t last. Its around 52F today and sunny. I like it. Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi Mary, Yes, it was in the 80’s and just gorgeous!  Yesterday was 52 here also, but windy and a little chilly.  Not sure what today is going to be like, but it’s sunny at least.  I’ll just bet those golfers are out there already. :-)  Don heard we may have snow in April this year.  I hope not.  I don’t want it to get that cold again.  Have a nice day, Mary. Hugs, Di – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Diane. I thought about you yesterday when watching weather on local TV and said Windsor was 82F yesterday – Pretty good consider we are still in last days of March. It was around 68F here yesterday so not as hot as Windsor, as I told you Windsor is always a few degrees warmer than here but not usually 12 degrees more. I had to go by bus somewhere yesterday and had a semi winter jacket on and I was waiting in the sun and I was sweating. Several high school students who were waiting for the bus had short shorts on and on the local news was live pics of outdoor cafe patios with summer umbrellas and people having a drink or coffee. On Sunday I talked to a cousin on the phone who lives in Windsor. He said it was 70F a couple of days before and he’s been playing some golf. Its been around 55-62F here till yesterday so that enough for the golfers to get on golf courses. So its been pretty good,considering winter didn’t begin till mid Jan. this year. It can still snow, but won’t last. Its around 52F today and sunny. I like it. Mary

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Hi Mary, Yes, it was in the 80’s and just gorgeous!  Yesterday was 52 here also, but windy and a little chilly.  Not sure what today is going to be like, but it’s sunny at least.  I’ll just bet those golfers are out there already. :-)  Don heard we may have snow in April this year.  I hope not.  I don’t want it to get that cold again.  Have a nice day, Mary.

I figured you’d be pleased with the temp in the 80’s. Yesterday it was around 48F but sunny and nice. Today was around 52F, and also sunny and nice. It wasn’t windy yesterday or today and that can make a big difference. So 52F and not much of a wind is OK with me. We can have sometimes have snow in April, which can caused traffic problems and bad roads, but one good thing is the snow does not last long on the road as the ground has warmed up some, so if its cold, it is not likely to be cold as it was in Feb.. There is no snow anywhere when I look from my balcony and I am in a high rise on a high floor and face a field. I can see Lake Ontario in the distance though its a few miles away, but its only a short drive to get to the lake, but its pretty busy as lots of people like to go to the lake. I would like to have a house within walking distance of the lake, but the prices are very high. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Diane. I thought about you yesterday when watching weather on local TV and said Windsor was 82F yesterday – Pretty good consider we are still in last days of March. It was around 68F here yesterday so not as hot as Windsor, as I told you Windsor is always a few degrees warmer than here but not usually 12 degrees more. I had to go by bus somewhere yesterday and had a semi winter jacket on and I was waiting in the sun and I was sweating. Several high school students who were waiting for the bus had short shorts on and on the local news was live pics of outdoor cafe patios with summer umbrellas and people having a drink or coffee. On Sunday I talked to a cousin on the phone who lives in Windsor. He said it was 70F a couple of days before and he’s been playing some golf. Its been around 55-62F here till yesterday so that enough for the golfers to get on golf courses. So its been pretty good,considering winter didn’t begin till mid Jan. this year. It can still snow, but won’t last. Its around 52F today and sunny. I like it. Mary

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By now we’re all familiar with President Bush’s demand for legislation banning "human-animal hybrids" — namely, the gathering threat of a race of Pig Men. These half-pig, half-man monstrosities received higher billing in the State of the Union than did the rebuilding of New Orleans — so it must be important. For measure, let’s see Secretary Chertoff’s rendering of Pig Man again: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/pigman.jpg Tuesday night, I declared my support for the president on this front and have set about my patriotic duty researching and tracking this threat. What I discovered might shock you. Nestled in the Bitterroot Valley, Montana is a secret operation to build the race of Pig Men — a facility brazenly named Pigman Builders. http://www.pigmanbuilders.com/ How long have they been growing Pig Men in Matrix-style goo pods? Long enough to have achieved the self-proclaimed status of "Innovative and Award Winning." So there’s awards for this grotesque bastardization of God’s science? Worse — they give out awards for hating America? Upon further investigation, I discovered that the lab is partially operated by — you guessed it — actual Pig Men. Their staff page lists the names Chip Pigman, Ron Pigman, Ran Pigman (could be a devilish clone of Ron), Anne Pigman, and Corky Pigman. So they’re giving names to Pig Men, eh? And endearing, all American names like "Corky" and "Chip"? As if they’re like us. I wonder which liberal activist judge allowed those birth certificates to be approved. http://www.pigmanbuilders.com/about/team.php Maybe it was Superior Court Judge Robert S. Pigman. http://www.vanderburghgov.org/home/index.asp?page=15&pageno=3&recordi… Hailing from the great state of Indiana, Judge Pigman is a clear indicator of the urgency of the threat of the Pig Man. They’ve infiltrated our judicial system — probably turning a blind eye at Pig Man crime and undermining our Constitution. And what’s more frightening to President Bush than Judge Pigman? Try combining three of his least favorite things: Pig Man, Lawyers, and New Orleans. That’s right. The law offices of Stone, PIG MAN, Walther, and Whittman are located in the America-hating city of New Orleans and what nefarious law practice do they specialize in? Toxic tort law. http://www.stonepigman.com/index.php We all know how much the president loves the environment, so he’d be especially angry if he knew these Pig Man lawyers actively defend alleged polluters against environmental claims. Last but not least is an aspect of this plot which spits and oinks in the very face of God, and nestles like a disgusting wad in his otherwise pristine white beard. Pig Man Marriage. I know. It’s gross and it’s against the Bible. The book of Leviticus 11:7 says: "The pig, because he has a split hoof, and is cloven-footed, but doesn’t chew the cud, he is unclean to you." But according to the Colorado Springs Gazette, Barbara Lynn Wright married cud-hater Jeffrey Dennis Pigman on August 4, 2001. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4191/is_20020105/ai_n1000…  Odd that they were married two days prior to President Bush receiving the PBD "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within the U.S." Coincidence or evidence of a Pig Man alliance with the terrorists? If Bush had been allowed to use his warrantless spy program on the Pig Men, perhaps we’d know for sure. If Mr. and Mrs. Pigman are reading my words right now, I must ask: why are you destroying the sanctity of marriage? I turned to my wife after learning this information and asked, "If Pig Man can marry, our holy marriage is useless and artificial, no? Let’s divorce, like our heroes Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich!" And so, my marriage is over. Pig Man, you bastard! Stay vigilant, America. And support the president’s call for legislation against the Pig Man. I’m proud to join with the president in leading the charge. Are you with us, or against us?

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I missed the stateless non-union parade .. I caught the flash points from Jon Steward. If "human-animal hybrids" is what really concerns our elected (?) clan over real life troubles and problems facing everyday Americans, they need all taken out and shot in the head.

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did courageously avow: I missed the stateless non-union parade .. I caught the flash points from Jon Steward. If "human-animal hybrids" is what really concerns our elected (?) clan over real life troubles and problems facing everyday Americans, they need all taken out and shot in the head.

Why?  They’re brain-dead already if they’ve swallowed GW’s stuff that far.  You might find yourself getting cited for deliberate waste of precious metals for the expended lead.  [8-) Ken Wilson Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ For the Other Side of Things http://www.whitehouse.org/

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By now we’re all familiar with President Bush’s demand for legislation banning "human-animal hybrids" — namely, the gathering threat of a race of Pig Men. These half-pig, half-man monstrosities received higher billing in the State of the Union than did the rebuilding of New Orleans — so it must be important. For measure, let’s see Secretary Chertoff’s rendering of Pig Man again: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/pigman.jpg

It’d improve man, but really fuck the pig over.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – did courageously avow: I missed the stateless non-union parade .. I caught the flash points from Jon Steward. If "human-animal hybrids" is what really concerns our elected (?) clan over real life troubles and problems facing everyday Americans, they need all taken out and shot in the head. Why?  They’re brain-dead already if they’ve swallowed GW’s stuff that far.  You might find yourself getting cited for deliberate waste of precious metals for the expended lead.  [8-) Ken Wilson Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ For the Other Side of Things http://www.whitehouse.org/

Great, we have two morons that can’t play guitar, debating a non-truth from some comedy show like anyone gives a fuck what they think. No wonder libs have lost 7 out of the last 10 elections, they have the brain power of hybrids.

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By now we’re all familiar with President Bush’s demand for legislation banning "human-animal hybrids" — namely, the gathering threat of a race of Pig Men. These half-pig, half-man monstrosities received higher billing in the State of the Union than did the rebuilding of New Orleans — so it must be important. For measure, let’s see Secretary Chertoff’s rendering of Pig Man again:

Fuckwit here forgot about the prime time speech Bush gave on New Orleans earlier. No wonder phuctard lib loses election after election.

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http://www.geocities.com/LRampey/pigs.htm Pig men invade postal service

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Comparison of gastrin bioactivity and immunoreactivity of antral extracts from man, pig and cat EL Blair, ER Grund, PK Lund, JD Reed and DJ Sanders 1. The gastrin bioactivity and immunoreactivities of human, porcine and feline antral extracts were compared. 2. Human and porcine had similar activities but cat had much less. 3. The ratio of gastrin bioactivity to immunoreactivity was much greater with feline antral extracts than with human and porcine extracts.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6534243/ In Minnesota, pigs are being born with human blood in their veins. In Nevada, there are sheep whose livers and hearts are largely human. In California, mice peer from their cages with human brain cells firing inside their skulls. You could aquire a pig heart valve. Chimeras (ki-MER-ahs) – meaning mixtures of two or more individuals in a single body – are not inherently unnatural. Most twins carry at least a few cells from the sibling with whom they shared a womb, and most mothers carry in their blood at least a few cells from each child they have born. Recipients of organ transplants are also chimeras, as are the many people whose defective heart valves have been replaced with those from pigs or cows. And scientists for years have added human genes to bacteria and even to farm animals – feats of genetic engineering that allow those critters to make human proteins such as insulin for use as medicines. Imagine, said Robert Streiffer, a professor of philosophy and bioethics at the University of Wisconsin, a human-chimpanzee chimera endowed with speech and an enhanced potential to learn – what some have called a "humanzee." "There’s a knee-jerk reaction that enhancing the moral status of an animal is bad," Streiffer said. "But if you did it, and you gave it the protections it deserves, how could the animal complain?" Unfortunately, said Harvard political philosopher Michael J. Sandel, speaking last fall at a meeting of the President’s Council on Bioethics, such protections are unlikely. "Chances are we would make them perform menial jobs or dangerous jobs," Sandel said. "That would be an objection." The potential power of chimeras as research tools became clear about a decade ago in a series of dramatic experiments by Evan Balaban, now at McGill University in Montreal. Balaban took small sections of brain from developing quails and transplanted them into the developing brains of chickens. The resulting chickens exhibited vocal trills and head bobs unique to quails, proving that the transplanted parts of the brain contained the neural circuitry for quail calls. It also offered astonishing proof that complex behaviors could be transferred across species. More recently his team injected human neural stem cells into mouse fetuses, creating mice whose brains are about 1 percent human. By dissecting the mice at various stages, the researchers were able to see how the added brain cells moved about as they multiplied and made connections with mouse cells. Already, he said, they have learned things they "never would have learned had there been a bioethical ban." Now he wants to add human brain stem cells that have the defects that cause Parkinson’s disease, Lou Gehrig’s disease and other brain ailments – and study how those cells make connections. Scientists suspect that these diseases, though they manifest themselves in adulthood, begin when something goes wrong early in development. If those errors can be found, researchers would have a much better chance of designing useful drugs, Weissman said. And those drugs could be tested in the chimeras in ways not possible in patients. Now Weissman says he is thinking about making chimeric mice whose brains are 100 percent human. He proposes keeping tabs on the mice as they develop. If the brains look as if they are taking on a distinctly human architecture – a development that could hint at a glimmer of humanness – they could be killed, he said. If they look as if they are organizing themselves in a mouse brain architecture, they could be used for research. Maybe Dr. Weissman  can impove yours!???

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – did courageously avow: I missed the stateless non-union parade .. I caught the flash points from Jon Steward. If "human-animal hybrids" is what really concerns our elected (?) clan over real life troubles and problems facing everyday Americans, they need all taken out and shot in the head. Why?  They’re brain-dead already if they’ve swallowed GW’s stuff that far.  You might find yourself getting cited for deliberate waste of precious metals for the expended lead.  [8-) Ken Wilson Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ For the Other Side of Things http://www.whitehouse.org/ Great, we have two morons that can’t play guitar, debating a non-truth from some comedy show like anyone gives a fuck what they think.

Well, you obviously don’t think so that really doesn’t bother me.  If you’d been thinking at the time you would be sure of your allegations. How do you know the two people of whom you speak can’t play guitar? Cites?  Links if any? I thought not you fucking floater. Ken Wilson Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ For the Other Side of Things http://www.whitehouse.org/

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – By now we’re all familiar with President Bush’s demand for legislation banning "human-animal hybrids" — namely, the gathering threat of a race of Pig Men. These half-pig, half-man monstrosities received higher billing in the State of the Union than did the rebuilding of New Orleans — so it must be important. For measure, let’s see Secretary Chertoff’s rendering of Pig Man again: Fuckwit here forgot about the prime time speech Bush gave on New Orleans earlier. No wonder phuctard lib loses election after election.

This sock doesn’t fit.  I like kicking your ass better when you are that cliff hanger, coat hanger, cunt hanger or whatever sock that was. You look good in argyle by the way.  [8-) Ken Wilson Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/ For the Other Side of Things http://www.whitehouse.org/

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hey – I took guitar lessons when I was 14. I remember the first song I learned to play from a pimpley unhappy young male guitar teacher and a Mel Bay Book. It was Hang Down You Head John Dooley.  I gave up my dream of becoming a folk singer. There wasn’t room for Peter, Paul and Mary Mary. I woulda had to change my name.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It has begun to burn when I deficate. Obesity is _not_ amusing, particularly where wipe-maintenence hygeine is concerned. I’m large now. Help. Ken Wilson Sharts while typing

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Donors Underwrite DeLay’s Deluxe Lifestyle By LARRY MARGASAK and SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writers December 21, 2005 WASHINGTON (AP) – As Rep. Tom DeLay crossed the country to raise millions of dollars for himself and fellow Republicans, he also improved his lifestyle. Over the past six years, the former House majority leader or his associates have visited places of luxury most Americans have never seen, often getting there aboard corporate jets arranged by lobbyists and other special interests. Public documents reviewed by The Associated Press tell the story: at least 48 visits to golf clubs and resorts with lush fairways; 100 flights aboard company planes; 200 stays at hotels, many world-class; and 500 meals at restaurants, some averaging nearly $200 for a dinner for two. The meals and trips for DeLay and his associates were paid with donations collected by the campaign committees, political action committees and children’s charity the Texas Republican created during his rise to a top spot in Congress. Put them together and a picture of an opulent lifestyle emerges. "A life to enjoy. The excuse to escape,” Palmas del Mar, an oceanside Puerto Rican resort visited by DeLay, promised in a summer ad on its Web site as a golf ball bounced into a hole and an image of a sunset appeared. The Caribbean vacation spot has casino gambling, horseback riding, snorkeling, deep-sea fishing and private beaches. "He was very friendly. We always see the relaxed side of politicians,” said Daniel Vassi, owner of the French bistro Chez Daniel at Palmas del Mar. Vassi said DeLay has eaten at his restaurant every year for the past three, and was last there in April with about 20 other people, including the resort’s owners. The restaurant is a cozy and popular place on the yacht-lined marina at Palmas del Mar. Dishes include bouillabaisse for about $35.50, Dover sole for $37.50 and filet mignon for $28.50. Palmas del Mar is also a DeLay donor, giving $5,000 to his Americans for a Republican Majority PAC in 2000. Since he joined the House leadership as majority whip in 1995, DeLay has raised at least $35 million for his campaign, PACs, foundation and legal defense fund. He hasn’t faced a serious re-election threat in recent years, giving him more leeway than candidates in close races to spend campaign money. AP’s review found DeLay’s various organizations spent at least $1 million over the past six years on top hotels, restaurants, golf resorts and corporate jet flights for their boss and his associates. The spending shows how political power can buy access to the lifestyles of the rich and famous. While it’s illegal for a lawmaker to tap political donations for a family vacation, it is legal to spend it in luxury if the stated purpose is raising more money or talking politics. Until his recent indictment in Texas on political money laundering charges, DeLay was the second most powerful lawmaker in the House and as such, could command an audience of donors wherever he went. DeLay attorney Don McGahn declined to identify which trips listed in the reports were taken by DeLay and which by his associates. But he said all the travel was legal and not done for DeLay’s benefit. "Raising political money costs money,” the attorney said. "Mr. DeLay has done extensive fundraising, and traveled far and wide to do so, but you would be hard-pressed to find someone who has raised more for others, whether for candidates or political parties,” McGahn said. Special interests routinely make donations and attend fundraisers to gain access to government decisionmakers. And while other congressional leaders accepted trips and used political money to cover travel, none compares with DeLay: -Campaign and PAC reports filed by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R- Tenn., show several payments to companies for travel, including Cracker Barrel, Union Pacific, Schering-Plough and Home Depot. But there were few visits to golf courses, and those were mostly close to home. -Reports from Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., show expenses at resorts in South Carolina, New Mexico and Puerto Rico. But he too holds most events closer to home, such as Las Vegas casinos and Lake Tahoe resorts. -House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has held events at ritzy hotels such as The Mark in New York and the Four Seasons in Atlanta, but had few corporate flights or visits to resorts, according to her reports. House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., comes closest to rivaling DeLay’s travels, reporting fundraisers at Walt Disney Parks and Resorts in Florida, the Ritz-Carlton in Kapalua, Hawaii, the Phoenician Resort in Scottsdale, Ariz., and the Waterfall Resort in Alaska. Hastert’s groups also paid for dozens of corporate jet flights and restaurant meals. Some say DeLay pushes the limits, and risks alienating donors. "I don’t think the people that contributed to me would believe it was a good expenditure of their hard-earned dollars for me to go and play golf and enjoy life anywhere,” said former Rep. Charlie Stenholm, a fiscally conservative Texas Democrat who lost his House seat following DeLay-led redistricting. Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., a Republican author of legislation that reformed campaign finance, was just as critical of DeLay’s spending habits. "It’s excessive, it’s obscene, it distorts someone’s ability to have good judgment,” said Shays, a longtime critic of DeLay. "It’s an abuse of campaign finance law and of our ethics law. It’s harmful to Congress in general and the Republican Party in particular. We need a new leader.” Told of DeLay’s spending, a $50 contributor to DeLay’s ARMPAC said he doesn’t expect politicians to use his donations in any particular way. "I guess it’s almost an automatic fifty bucks to anybody who’s on my side, if that’s the right way to put it,” said George Wrenn, a retired architectural historian from Freedom, N.H. DeLay’s travels with recently indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff are now under criminal investigation. But those trips were paid by special interests directly under the banner of congressional fact-finding. DeLay’s own political empire has underwritten far more travel. The destinations for DeLay or his political team include a Ritz-Carlton hotel in Jamaica; the Prince Hotel in Hapuna Beach, Hawaii; the Michelangelo Hotel in New York; the Wyndham El Conquistador Resort & Golden Door Spa in Fajardo, Puerto Rico; and the Phoenician Resort in Scottsdale, Ariz. There’s also the Ritz-Carlton in Naples, Fla., offering "dazzling views of the Gulf of Mexico, warm golden sunsets and three miles of pristine beach,” plus golf, a spa, goose-down comforters, marble bathrooms and private, ocean-view balconies. Rooms cost from about $389 to more than $3,000 a night in December, the month DeLay’s PAC spent $4,570 on lodging there in 2004. "He liked to talk to people,” said Pedro Muriel, a waiter at Puerto Rico’s El Conquistador Resort. Muriel recalled DeLay staying in an enclave of privately owned red tile-roofed villas. The villas have up to three bedrooms, kitchens, living rooms and French doors that open onto terraces or balconies facing the Caribbean. Villa prices average about $1,300 a night. Guests get their own butlers. The resort offers six swimming pools and an 18-hole championship golf course. DeLay’s donors also have financed visits to country clubs and tournament- quality golf courses, including the exclusive Baltusrol Golf Club in Springfield, N.J., site of this summer’s PGA Championship; Nemacolin Woodlands Resort in Farmington, Pa., home of another PGA event; and Harbour Town Golf Links, a course at Hilton Head Island, S.C., that was designed in consultation with Jack Nicklaus. "World class. Dynamic. Luxury resort. Spend a day, spend a week, spend a lifetime,” another DeLay fundraising spot, the ChampionsGate golf resort near Orlando, Fla., invites on its Web site. Dining at fine restaurants also is routine. The stops for DeLay and his associates include Morton’s of Chicago, where the average dinner for two goes for about $170 before tax and tip, and "21” in Manhattan, a longtime glamour spot where American caviar is $38 for a taste. When DeLay wants to head somewhere without the hassle of commercial travel, he often asks a company for its jet and uses donations to pay for it. Dozens of businesses have lent DeLay their planes, including tobacco companies UST, RJ Reynolds, and Philip Morris, plus energy concerns such as El Paso, Panda, Reliant and Dynegy. R.J. Reynolds has let DeLay use a company plane at least nine times since 1999, once joining Philip Morris in making jets available for a DeLay PAC fundraiser at a Puerto Rican resort in winter 2002. R.J. Reynolds spokesman David Howard said planes are lent usually at lawmakers’ request and are only done if jets aren’t needed for company business. "It’s much more convenient as opposed to your regular commercial travel,” Howard said, noting there is no need to go through airport security.

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Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Donors Underwrite DeLay’s Deluxe Lifestyle > By LARRY MARGASAK and SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writers > December 21, 2005 > WASHINGTON (AP) – As Rep. Tom DeLay crossed the country to raise millions > of dollars for himself and fellow Republicans, he also improved his > lifestyle. > Over the past six years, the former House majority leader or his > associates have visited places of luxury most Americans have never seen, > often getting there aboard corporate jets arranged by lobbyists and other > special interests. > Public documents reviewed by The Associated Press tell the story: at > least 48 visits to golf clubs and resorts with lush fairways; 100 flights > aboard company planes; 200 stays at hotels, many world-class; and 500 > meals at restaurants, some averaging nearly $200 for a dinner for two. > The meals and trips for DeLay and his associates were paid with donations > collected by the campaign committees, political action committees and > children’s charity the Texas Republican created during his rise to a top > spot in Congress. > Put them together and a picture of an opulent lifestyle emerges. > "A life to enjoy. The excuse to escape,” Palmas del Mar, an oceanside > Puerto Rican resort visited by DeLay, promised in a summer ad on its Web > site as a golf ball bounced into a hole and an image of a sunset > appeared. > The Caribbean vacation spot has casino gambling, horseback riding, > snorkeling, deep-sea fishing and private beaches. > "He was very friendly. We always see the relaxed side of politicians,” > said Daniel Vassi, owner of the French bistro Chez Daniel at Palmas del > Mar. Vassi said DeLay has eaten at his restaurant every year for the past > three, and was last there in April with about 20 other people, including > the resort’s owners. > The restaurant is a cozy and popular place on the yacht-lined marina at > Palmas del Mar. Dishes include bouillabaisse for about $35.50, Dover sole > for $37.50 and filet mignon for $28.50. Palmas del Mar is also a DeLay > donor, giving $5,000 to his Americans for a Republican Majority PAC in > 2000. > Since he joined the House leadership as majority whip in 1995, DeLay has > raised at least $35 million for his campaign, PACs, foundation and legal > defense fund. He hasn’t faced a serious re-election threat in recent > years, giving him more leeway than candidates in close races to spend > campaign money. > AP’s review found DeLay’s various organizations spent at least $1 million > over the past six years on top hotels, restaurants, golf resorts and > corporate jet flights for their boss and his associates. > The spending shows how political power can buy access to the lifestyles > of the rich and famous. While it’s illegal for a lawmaker to tap > political donations for a family vacation, it is legal to spend it in > luxury if the stated purpose is raising more money or talking politics. > Until his recent indictment in Texas on political money laundering > charges, DeLay was the second most powerful lawmaker in the House and as > such, could command an audience of donors wherever he went. > DeLay attorney Don McGahn declined to identify which trips listed in the > reports were taken by DeLay and which by his associates. But he said all > the travel was legal and not done for DeLay’s benefit. "Raising political > money costs money,” the attorney said. > "Mr. DeLay has done extensive fundraising, and traveled far and wide to > do so, but you would be hard-pressed to find someone who has raised more > for others, whether for candidates or political parties,” McGahn said. > Special interests routinely make donations and attend fundraisers to gain > access to government decisionmakers. And while other congressional > leaders accepted trips and used political money to cover travel, none > compares with DeLay: > -Campaign and PAC reports filed by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R- > Tenn., show several payments to companies for travel, including Cracker > Barrel, Union Pacific, Schering-Plough and Home Depot. But there were few > visits to golf courses, and those were mostly close to home. > -Reports from Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., show expenses at > resorts in South Carolina, New Mexico and Puerto Rico. But he too holds > most events closer to home, such as Las Vegas casinos and Lake Tahoe > resorts. > -House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has held events at ritzy > hotels such as The Mark in New York and the Four Seasons in Atlanta, but > had few corporate flights or visits to resorts, according to her reports. > House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., comes closest to rivaling DeLay’s > travels, reporting fundraisers at Walt Disney Parks and Resorts in > Florida, the Ritz-Carlton in Kapalua, Hawaii, the Phoenician Resort in > Scottsdale, Ariz., and the Waterfall Resort in Alaska. Hastert’s groups > also paid for dozens of corporate jet flights and restaurant meals. > Some say DeLay pushes the limits, and risks alienating donors. > "I don’t think the people that contributed to me would believe it was a > good expenditure of their hard-earned dollars for me to go and play golf > and enjoy life anywhere,” said former Rep. Charlie Stenholm, a fiscally > conservative Texas Democrat who lost his House seat following DeLay-led > redistricting. > Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., a Republican author of legislation that > reformed campaign finance, was just as critical of DeLay’s spending > habits. > "It’s excessive, it’s obscene, it distorts someone’s ability to have good > judgment,” said Shays, a longtime critic of DeLay. "It’s an abuse of > campaign finance law and of our ethics law. It’s harmful to Congress in > general and the Republican Party in particular. We need a new leader.” > Told of DeLay’s spending, a $50 contributor to DeLay’s ARMPAC said he > doesn’t expect politicians to use his donations in any particular way. > "I guess it’s almost an automatic fifty bucks to anybody who’s on my > side, if that’s the right way to put it,” said George Wrenn, a retired > architectural historian from Freedom, N.H. > DeLay’s travels with recently indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff are now > under criminal investigation. But those trips were paid by special > interests directly under the banner of congressional fact-finding. > DeLay’s own political empire has underwritten far more travel. > The destinations for DeLay or his political team include a Ritz-Carlton > hotel in Jamaica; the Prince Hotel in Hapuna Beach, Hawaii; the > Michelangelo Hotel in New York; the Wyndham El Conquistador Resort & > Golden Door Spa in Fajardo, Puerto Rico; and the Phoenician Resort in > Scottsdale, Ariz. > There’s also the Ritz-Carlton in Naples, Fla., offering "dazzling views > of the Gulf of Mexico, warm golden sunsets and three miles of pristine > beach,” plus golf, a spa, goose-down comforters, marble bathrooms and > private, ocean-view balconies. Rooms cost from about $389 to more than > $3,000 a night in December, the month DeLay’s PAC spent $4,570 on lodging > there in 2004. > "He liked to talk to people,” said Pedro Muriel, a waiter at Puerto > Rico’s El Conquistador Resort. Muriel recalled DeLay staying in an > enclave of privately owned red tile-roofed villas. > The villas have up to three bedrooms, kitchens, living rooms and French > doors that open onto terraces or balconies facing the Caribbean. Villa > prices average about $1,300 a night. > Guests get their own butlers. The resort offers six swimming pools and an > 18-hole championship golf course. > DeLay’s donors also have financed visits to country clubs and tournament- > quality golf courses, including the exclusive Baltusrol Golf Club in > Springfield, N.J., site of this summer’s PGA Championship; Nemacolin > Woodlands Resort in Farmington, Pa., home of another PGA event; and > Harbour Town Golf Links, a course at Hilton Head Island, S.C., that was > designed in consultation with Jack Nicklaus. > "World class. Dynamic. Luxury resort. Spend a day, spend a week, spend a > lifetime,” another DeLay fundraising spot, the ChampionsGate golf resort > near Orlando, Fla., invites on its Web site. > Dining at fine restaurants also is routine. The stops for DeLay and his > associates include Morton’s of Chicago, where the average dinner for two > goes for about $170 before tax and tip, and "21” in Manhattan, a > longtime glamour spot where American caviar is $38 for a taste. > When DeLay wants to head somewhere without the hassle of commercial > travel, he often asks a company for its jet and uses donations to pay for > it. > Dozens of businesses have lent DeLay their planes, including tobacco > companies UST, RJ Reynolds, and Philip Morris, plus energy concerns such > as El Paso, Panda, Reliant and Dynegy. > R.J. Reynolds has let DeLay use a company plane at least nine times since > 1999, once joining Philip Morris in making jets available for a DeLay PAC > fundraiser at a Puerto Rican resort in winter 2002. R.J. Reynolds > spokesman David Howard said planes are lent usually at lawmakers’ request > and are only done if jets aren’t needed for company business. > "It’s much more convenient as opposed to your regular commercial > travel,” Howard said, noting there is no need to go through airport > security.

The ultra rich have plenty of money to throw it him.  No hardship there.  The companies can probably write the use of the jets off in some way.  Again no hardship. The little guys in the Republican ranks might feel a pinch at their contributions, but they figure it’s an investment in the way of life they’ve grown accustomed to and perceive they are entitled to enjoy. That about covers the bases, doesn’t it? The up side is that it may piss the non-voting Democrats off enough to get off their asses to vote and the voting Democrats pissed off enough to kick into … read more »

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Tom Cruise on the today show.

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lol – FWIW the nurse enjoys the art historians too. G

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are, after all, posting on *this* board for a reason. I’m here for the free drinks and I like the nurses. P. Yeah They’re both really nice guys. Bingo! I was hoping someone would say exactly this and I counted on you! P.

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Anyone want to weigh in on this??

I never watched the Today show but caught clips here and there (accidently of course ;) of Tommy boy. From my perspective, he’s been "Mr. Hollywood" and yet another example of it this time around. He hasn’t had a big hit movie in years and this is his way of exercising PR (whether it’s good or bad) and that’s about it. Anyone that would follow an actors advice especially concerning mental issues is a fool and deserves anything that comes from it. Kevin..

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Well JL, we will ultimately do better anyway – by the time our irritation with Tom Cruise is dwarfed by our overwhelming desire to see his film (?) we can rent it, for a fraction of what it would cost to go sit in some uncomfortable theatre seat (and no pause button, and expensive as hell popcorn besides).  I’m all for renting videos, and finally figured out that if you don’t go see movies, all the videos are "new releases" to you, so you are entertained cheaply, and you can sit wherever you want to….

My wife and I have been members of Netflix for years and usually just keep the movies coming through the mail.  So when we think a movie might be kind of good or get irritated with the ranting and raving of the actor, we always tell each other that we’ll catch it on Netflix. I still like to go to the movies on occasion though.  The movie theater was where I had my first full blown PA while I was watching "The Prophecy" with Christopher Walken and recovering from a good hangover from a Van Halen concert. So I feel good every time I finish a movie in the theater.   Sometimes when I look back, I think the hangover/Prophecy probably wasn’t the best combo!  If I had only known I was on the verge of an enormous PA, maybe I would have told myself that recovering from a hangover and watching a movie about fallen angels and demons might be pushing it for that particular Sunday afternoon -;)  I guess it would have gotten me sooner or later though. JL

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are, after all, posting on *this* board for a reason. I’m here for the free drinks and I like the nurses. P. Yeah They’re both really nice guys.

Bingo! I was hoping someone would say exactly this and I counted on you! P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Well JL, we will ultimately do better anyway – by the time our irritation with Tom Cruise is dwarfed by our overwhelming desire to see his film (?) we can rent it, for a fraction of what it would cost to go sit in some uncomfortable theatre seat (and no pause button, and expensive as hell popcorn besides).

OT: How To Sing The Blues

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 A Primer Most Blues begin, "Woke up this morning…" "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the Blues, ‘less you stick something nasty in the next line like, "I got a good woman, with the meanest face in town." The Blues is simple. After you get the first line right, repeat it. Then find something that rhymes . . . sort of: "Got a good woman with the meanest face in town. Yes, I got a good woman with the meanest face in town. Got teeth like Margaret Thatcher, and she weigh 500 pound." The Blues is not about choice. You stuck in a ditch, you stuck in a ditch–ain’t no way out. Blues cars: Chevys, Fords, Cadillacs and broken-down trucks. Blues don’t travel in Volvos, BMWs, or Sport Utility Vehicles. Most Blues transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train. Jet aircraft an’ state-sponsored motor pools ain’t even in the running. Walkin’ plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin’ to die. Teenagers can’t sing the Blues. Adults sing the Blues. In Blues "adulthood" means being old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis. Blues can take place in New York City but not in Hawaii or any place in Canada. Hard times in Minneapolis or Seattle is probably just clinical depression. Chicago, St. Louis, and Kansas City are still the best places to have the Blues. You cannot have the blues in any place that don’t get rain. A man with male pattern baldness ain’t the blues. A woman with male pattern baldness is. Breaking your leg cause you skiing is not the blues. Breaking your leg ’cause a alligator be chomping on it is. You can’t have no Blues in a office or a shopping mall. The lighting is wrong. Go outside to the parking lot or sit by the dumpster. Good places for the Blues: a) Highway; b) Jailhouse; c) Empty bed; d) Bottom of a whiskey glass. Bad places for the Blues: a) Dillard’s; b) Gallery openings; c) Ivy League institutions; d) Golf courses; e) Starbucks No one will believe it’s the Blues if you wear a suit, ‘less you happen to be a old ethnic person, and you slept in it. Do you have the right to sing the Blues? Yes, if a) You older than dirt; b) You blind; c) You shot a man in Memphis; d) You can’t be satisfied…No, if a) You have all your teeth; b) You were once blind but now can see; c) The man in Memphis lived; d) You have a 401K or trust fund. Blues is not a matter of color. It’s a matter of bad luck. Tiger Woods cannot sing the blues. Sonny Liston could. Ugly white people also got a leg up on the blues. If you ask for water and your darlin’ give you gasoline, it’s the Blues. Other acceptable Blues beverages are a) Cheap wine; b) Whiskey or bourbon; c) Muddy water; d) Nasty black coffee. The following are NOT Blues beverages: a) Perrier; b) Chardonnay; c) Snapple; d) Slim Fast; e) Mocha Latte If death occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it’s a Blues death. Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is another Blues way to die. So is the electric chair, substance abuse and dying lonely on a broken down cot. You can’t have a Blues death if you die during a tennis match or getting liposuction. Some Blues names for women: a) Sadie; b) Big Mama; c) Bessie; d) Fat River Dumpling Some Blues names for men a) Joe; b) Willie; c) Little Willie; d) Big Willie Persons with names like Michelle, Amber, Debbie, and Heather can’t sing the Blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis. Make your own Blues name Starter Kit: a) Name of physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Lame, etc.); b) First name (see above) plus name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, Kiwi, etc.); c) Last name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.); d) For example, Blind Lime Jefferson, Jakeleg Lemon Johnson or Cripple Kiwi Fillmore, etc. (Well, maybe not "Kiwi.") I don’t care how tragic your life, if you own a computer, you cannot sing the blues. *****Don’t Cry Because It’s Over…Smile Because It Happened.***** Visit Me At Tick’s Place… http://community-2.webtv.net/OLTICK/TICKSPLACE/

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news:20295-42857B7B-613@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net… snip> > Most Blues begin, "Woke up this morning…" > "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the Blues, ‘less you stick > something nasty in the next line like, "I got a good woman, with the > meanest face in town." > I don’t care how tragic your life, if you own a computer, you cannot > sing the blues. SNIP> > *****Don’t Cry Because It’s Over…Smile Because It Happened.***** > Visit Me At Tick’s Place… > http://community-2.webtv.net/OLTICK/TICKSPLACE/

———– Being a great appreciater of the blues, I loved this – how true it is! How about one for Country music? Dribbler

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In article <20295-42857B7B-…@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>,  OLT…@webtv.net (GT Tick) wrote: >  A Primer > Most Blues begin, "Woke up this morning…"

LOL! That’s priceless — and truer than it might appear! If you got MS, the blues royalty might make a ‘ception ’bout the computer. Have to axe Ol’ BB, ’bout dat. Y’all cn also qualify if’n you growed up po’ and never forgot it. One of the best amateur blues singers I ever heard talked like an illiterate hillbilly, had a Ph.D. in Physics, and wrote like a Nobel Prize winner. But, boy could he belt the blues!

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Latest on the Burma VISA?

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Talk like this only hurt people, it will not bring good things, it will only bring bad things. Instead of talking like this and defaming people, why not you help them by yourself? Or maybe helping people is not your goal at all? However a quick search on Google suggests that either the allegations are true or the poor government of Burma is the victim of an incredibly well-organised and well-orchestrated campaign of misinformation involving almost every news organisation and human rights group in the world.

Considering the choices, I voted for the later. News organization and human rights groups belong to ‘them’. The same goes for Google. But frankly, I would later go on with my choice, so I will vote my own option. Here’s my option. Chances are, even if the allegations are indeed true or half true, then these things are also done by ‘them’, through ‘their’ pawns. Who do you think owned the government of Burma? ‘Them’! ‘They’ did these actions through ‘their’ pawns, ‘they’ use their other pawns to defame the previous pawns, then ‘they’ use the other OTHER pawns to do things by using the reason that these are done to prevent the actions that were previously done by ‘their’ pawns, actions that were ordered by ‘them’. Oh… When it’s about doing these through proxies, ‘they’ are the experts. It’s useless to join any freedom fighter group / terrorist group / human rights group / etc (created by ‘them’) to fight against oppression (created by ‘them’). Freedom fighters, terrorists, human rights activists, and so on are the same, they are nothing more but pawns used to fight each other. You will be treated as nothing more but a pawn to play with. The object is not resource, land, redevelopment, and so on. The object is your own misery, confusion, false action (thinking that you’re doing the thing you want when it’s actually the opposite), and so on. To quote someone, "Do not resist an evil person." But the news media and human rights group probably would have accuse him of human rights violation.

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What’s different about Burma is the fact that the abuses are linked to the tourist industry. This is what the boycott groups claim and it is basically not true. Myanmar (not Burma) is a free market society where the "tourist" industry is mostly private.

What is your evidence for saying it’s not true. No one’s disputing that the tourist industry is largely privately owned when it comes to small hotels, restaurants, taxis, etc but are the places where the alleged incidents have taken place privately owned? The airports, the railways, the Royal Palace in Mandalay, the land surrounding Bagan? I very much doubt it. If you believe that these reports are lies then what do you believe are the motives of the people who invent them? "Clearing villages" happens in many SE Asian countries, from the Philippines to Indonesia to Thailand. Myanmar is no exception to that. This is of course no excuse, but one should know that the forced clearings of slums in Bangkok or Manila are not much better or different. And you feel perfectly well in Bangkok, I suppose?

Clearing slums occurs all over the world. Were these rural viillages in Bagan actually slums? I can well believe that powerful property developers in countries such as Thailand can buy the political influence to get land cleared. The issue is the degree of coercian, violence and threat used. If you know of an incident in Bangkok where this was done to create a haven for tourists then please send details. This newsgroup is about travelling in Asia and we are free to discuss this without interference from politically correct people. Please take your "morals" to the appropriate place where they belong.

Tourism and morality are inextricably linked and clearly you are not free to discuss your ‘cheap holidays in the sun’ without interference from ‘politically correct people’. This is what you might wish but alas ….. You just don’t want the rickshaw driver, hotel owner or waiter in a pub to benefit from it. You want them to live in greater poverty?

No, of course no one who advocates sanctions or boycotts actually wants that but in the short term it may well happen. You claim quite a nonsense here. Go to Myanmar instead of listening to these boycott people. This country is much more than forced labour and what the groups always claim here.

Most of the people who belong to these boycott groups are probably Burmese nationals in exile and I suspect they know alot more about the positive day-to-day aspects of life in Burma than you do. No one is claiming that all there is to Burma is forced labour and misery. If there was it wouldn’t attract tourists such as yourself who are looking for a good time and we wouldn’t be having this debate. It’s precisely because there is so much more to Burma that it is a highly attractive travel destination. You are free to think and act so. We are free to think different. There has never been a boycott which had any positive impact on the lives of the people. The opposite is true. Any boycott will harm the people first, not the government.

I think that people in South Africa might disagree with you. If there are Burmese opposition groups who question the accuracy of these reports of tourism-related abuses then I’d very much be interested to hear about them. If any Burmese exile groups (who are therefore free to speak openly) do disagree with the official NLD position then please make them known to us. Nigel

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… You are free to think and act so. We are free to think different. There has never been a boycott which had any positive impact on the lives of the people. The opposite is true. Any boycott will harm the people first, not the government. What was your position on the South Africa boycott? Did you play Sun City? The difference is that South Africa is basically an industrialised society linked to world markets, so a boycott does hurt. But Myanmar is a relatively isolated society with a rural economy, considerably less sensitive to an economic boycott. The generals can more or less hang on for ever, regardless of US efforts to topple their government. But the simple people in Myanmar are badly hurt by the boycott.

As far as Asian countries consider the burden of Burmese folks an "internal affair" there is little tools around to oust the generals from outside Burma.

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says… You are free to think and act so. We are free to think different. There has never been a boycott which had any positive impact on the lives of the people. The opposite is true. Any boycott will harm the people first, not the government. What was your position on the South Africa boycott? Did you play Sun City?

The difference is that South Africa is basically an industrialised society linked to world markets, so a boycott does hurt. But Myanmar is a relatively isolated society with a rural economy, considerably less sensitive to an economic boycott. The generals can more or less hang on for ever, regardless of US efforts to topple their government. But the simple people in Myanmar are badly hurt by the boycott. In addition, tourism is not a big economic factor in Myanmar, but it helps the local people. Just to make an example, with the money we paid to our driver he finally had enough funds to marry his girlfriend. — Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de/Galleries.htm – Photos from Myanmar, Brunei, Malaysia, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Nepal, Egypt, Austria, Prague, Budapest and Portugal

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<< 4) Tourism projects are causing forced relocation. It is well known that 5,000 villagers from Pagan were forcibly relocated by SLORC a few years ago to keep them away from tourists.   Many, including some of my friends, were evicted in the middle of the night at gunpoint, sent to the "myothit"("new city") some distance away, which was only a dusty patch in the middle of nowhere. Of course they were not compensated. Bagan, as the government now calls it, is a sterile "museum" like Ayutthaya in Thailand, with no inhabitants except the few militarily "connected". One aspect of emptying the town that is never mentioned: the rubble of ancient pagodas is excellent habitat for a number of highly venomous snakes such as the Russel’s viper. Their numbers could be increasing.

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<< A starting point is http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/reports/roadmap.htm and http://www.ibiblio.org/freeburma/humanrights/khrg/archive/khrg97/khrg… Add to the above: www.freeburmacoalition.org

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You are free to think and act so. We are free to think different. There has never been a boycott which had any positive impact on the lives of the people. The opposite is true. Any boycott will harm the people first, not the government.

What was your position on the South Africa boycott? Did you play Sun City? miguel — Hit The Road! Photos from 32 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu

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Thomas please read what I have said in my postings carefully. 1. I have been to Burma and went there BEFORE I knew about the abuses. I am only trying to encourage other people not to make what I now regard as the same mistake I did. Knowing what I know now I would not choose to go again. 2. I never said that you shouldn’t travel to any country with a poor human rights record. I agree that in some cases it is possibly beneficial to encourage contact with the outside world. What’s different about Burma is the fact that the abuses are linked to the tourist industry. If the Laotian government were clearing villages around Luang Prabang in order to pretify it for my eyes I wouldn’t go there either. 3. What also distingushes Burma from other countries is that the legitimate government of Burma (the NLD) offically asks foreign tourists not to travel to their country. I checked before going to Tibet and the Dalai Lama and the ‘Tibetan Government in Exile’ postively encourages tourists to visit Tibet. 4. It is nonsense to say that everybody who reads this newsgroup knows about the situation in Burma. I read it because I frequently travel to S.E. Asia but some just dip into it because they are thinking of travelling there for the first time. Clearly you don’t know what goes on there, or you don’t believe the allegations, or you do believe the allegations but just don’t care. In your postings you speak of ‘boycot’ groups, ’sympathizers’ and ‘idelogical pamphlets’ as if there’s a conspiracy. I’m posting as an individual who by-and-large sits back and ignores alot of the evil that’s going on in the world but when I see people posting questions about Burma as if they’re planning a trip to Disneyland I feel compelled to speak out. 5. To say that the Burmese people you have met want tourists to visit is perhaps true. This could however be for two reasons. One is that whether you’re a 5* hotel tourist or an impoverished backpacker it’s still true that nearly everyone you come into contact with while travelling is some how involved in the tourist industry – directly or indirectly. Of course they want you to come. Secondly, do you think a Burmese person would dare tell you that you shouldn’t have come to Burma as it is helping the military regime stay in power. 6. How can you say that this is a travel newsgroup and not for discussing politics? How can the two possibly be seperated? Are you so cynical about human nature that you think people who write in to ask where they can get a hotel room for $10US a night might not also be interested in what happened to the villagers who used to live on the land where the hotel currently is. Like most of the people who read this newsgroup I am a weathly, middle-class, educated westerner who enjoys spending my disposable income on exotic travel. I jet in for a few weeks and then jet out. I don’t regard this as a particularly laudable activity. I do it for myself and apart from the money I spend it’s not really helping anyone out there. I am selfish and I will turn a blind eye to some of the unpleasant aspects of a country and allow myself to enjoy the nicer aspects. BUT there are limits and Burma is one of them. 7. As for the suggestion that boycotts don’t benefit the people I think that those people who cleared out the moat around the Royal Palace in Mandalay, the forced labourers who built the regional airports and the villagers who used to live around Bagan might disagree with you. If the Burmese government didn’t have the confidence that selfish Westerners would flock in to see it all regardless of the cost in human lives they wouldn’t have bothered doing what they did. Nigel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – human rights abuses that they are not happening. I’ve just come back from Tibet but I didn’t see any nuns being tortured. In Laos I didn’t see any Hmong tribe people being killed. That doesn’t mean that it’s not happening. Ah I see. You are travelling to Tibet and Laos, not boycotting the human rights abuse there. That clearly shows your moral point. I don’t see why you think it helps your argument to just categorise people as being from a boycott group, You call for a boycott, you post the links. Enough evidence to think that you are a member or sympathizer. those who have joined have done so precisely because they have been to Burma and like me feel some affinity for the country and the people. I see. You permit yourself to travel there, but others should refrain from it. Rather than just repeat what is well-documented elsewhere people can research for themselves using the web. Probably everybody here knows what is going on there. We even know what is going on in countries with comparable human rights abuse, like Indonesia or the Philippines. But we still travel to those countries because the whole boycott issue is a nonsense and hurts the local population more than the goverment. Ask the people of Myanmar if they want to have tourists or not. I assure you, you will get only one answer.

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Below is an extract from http://www.ibiblio.org/freeburma/humanrights/khrg/archive/khrg95/1095… These notes go back to 1995 but it’s worth thinking about the suffering that’s been inflicted on the local people to make Burma beautiful and more accessible to tourists. It would have been better if the author had cited the sources of some of this information. However a quick search on Google suggests that either the allegations are true or the poor government of Burma is the victim of an incredibly well-organised and well-orchestrated campaign of misinformation involving almost every news organisation and human rights group in the world. "Tourism causes forced labour in Burma. The forced labour to clear the muck out of the bottom of the Mandalay Palace moat for the viewing pleasure of tourists has been well-documented. At least 20,000 civilians and close to as many convicts in shackles have been used for this. When commenting on the use of convicts, don

O.T. Saturday night & wine coolers…;-)

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"Rob Duncan" <robdun…@gbronline.com> wrote in message

news:cqudndDYiMn5lyDdRVn-jA@gbronline.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "bobD" <phatbh…@REMOVEshaw.ca> wrote in message > news:aS4vc.639271$oR5.210567@pd7tw3no… > > using a syringe/needle makes for some fine artwork in a glass!!! > > bobD   :^) > Bob, you ever have an Irish Car Bomb?  MMmmm, goes down smooth.  Its a mix > of Kahlua and something else in a shot glass.  You drop the shotglass into a > half pint of beer (I forgot which kind) and pound it immediately.  YUM! > Rob

not yet i havent had one!!!,, i bet they use irish whisky or cream??? but its not very gross!!! since its irish how about putting a lady finger fire cracker into it!!! for the IRA!!! sounds yummy though,, !!! bob

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news:c9ivda$rho$1@news.netins.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "bobD" <phatbh…@REMOVEshaw.ca> wrote in message > news:aS4vc.639271$oR5.210567@pd7tw3no… > > "hantayo" <hantay…@netins.net> wrote in message > > news:c9ihu1$k83$1@news.netins.net… > > > "bobD" <phatbh…@REMOVEshaw.ca> wrote in message > > > news:3s3vc.638597$oR5.309283@pd7tw3no… > > > > "hantayo" <hantay…@netins.net> wrote in message > > > > news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net… > > using a syringe/needle makes for some fine artwork in a glass!!! > > bobD   :^) >   bobD – now you have frightened me…..;-) >    Kathy K.

 and just think,, i dont take my medication no more!!!! hehehehehehe bob

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"John Husvar" <jhus…@neo.rr.com> wrote in message

news:lX5vc.11758$Ba.7329@fe2.columbus.rr.com… > bobD wrote: > <Buncha instructions for wierd ‘n’ wild shooters–> > You, sir, are truly warped, truly warped, man! > I like that. :)

 just a sec,, im wiping the acceptance speech tears from my eyes!!!! one thing bout never drinking for years and yearsss i am one cheap!!!! drunk,, 3 beers and i am looped for the night,or , one glass of nice wine(meaning over 11% alcohol,, not 7%,)!!! i am looped,, not like before when we pounded 15 beer each in a sitting,, then walked around playing pool,, like we were not even affected,,, note- all my talk about making shooters was when i was not drinking, i made them for guests!!! and laughed at the drunk people in my house the rest of the night!!!!!!! bobD  :^)

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"laura davis doe" <lodee…@yahoo.Com> wrote in message news:BCE32FD3.BE82%lodeedoe@yahoo.Com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Once upon a time Rob Duncan in cqudndDYiMn5lyDdRVn…@gbronline.com   > > Quoth; > > "bobD" <phatbh…@REMOVEshaw.ca> wrote in message > > news:aS4vc.639271$oR5.210567@pd7tw3no… > >> using a syringe/needle makes for some fine artwork in a glass!!! > >> bobD   :^) > > Bob, you ever have an Irish Car Bomb?  MMmmm, goes down smooth.  Its a mix > > of Kahlua and something else in a shot glass.  You drop the shotglass into a > > half pint of beer (I forgot which kind) and pound it immediately.  YUM! > > Rob > BobD and Rob, > My  mind is reeling with possiblities now.  My previous icky drinks were not > close to your obvious mastery of the genre. > I humbly submit:   Gin & creme soda,  and   Ouzo with non-dairy creamer. > I’m not even NEAR your genius. > Lo

 i function very well at my dads licquor cabinet!!! he has got every bottle of everything made,, its a cornacopia of shooter mixes,, sadly,,, most of my inventions have me first going to the bank machine then the licquor store,,  then watching others enjoy it!!!  since i am a weak drinker,, i could make only maybe 3 for myself,, and thats no fun!!! i have 20 shooter glasses,,, and once i start i cant stop,, so i have to still wait for more guests to test out stuff,, – many a shooter has been spit into the sink!!! bobD

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bobD wrote:

<Buncha instructions for wierd ‘n’ wild shooters–> You, sir, are truly warped, truly warped, man! I like that. :)

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news:aS4vc.639271$oR5.210567@pd7tw3no… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "hantayo" <hantay…@netins.net> wrote in message > news:c9ihu1$k83$1@news.netins.net… > > "bobD" <phatbh…@REMOVEshaw.ca> wrote in message > > news:3s3vc.638597$oR5.309283@pd7tw3no… > > > "hantayo" <hantay…@netins.net> wrote in message > > > news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net… > > > > Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. What > > > else > > > > can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray tell. ; -) > I’m > > > > having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe me – a > Seagram’s > > > > Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so refreshing! You might know > > that > > > > Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri anywhere! > > > its easy to find your own!!!,, buy some fresh strawberries!!!  we have > an > > > early bumper crop here in the Strawberry capital of Canada!!! langley > > bc!!! > > >  take blender,, add lots of berries,,, some crushed ice,,, lotsa rum,, > > > add in some frozen yogurt too,, to smooth it out,, mmm, > > > best daiquari in the world,,, !!! > > >  grrrrrrrr Life is so > > > > unfair…:-( > > > >    Kathy (hick-up…) K. > > > yup i know i have no rum!!! but lots of berries,,, > > > bobD > >   Thanks a lot, bobD – now I’m salivating (and that’s not a pretty > > picture…). Gee – could you please send me some strawberries & I’ll try > to > > come up with the rum…. ;-) > >     Kathy K. > thanks to global warming,, our berries are early this year,,, all my > blueberries will be ready to start eating in a month,, early july not > august!!! >  plus langley has a bumper crop of strawberries,, raspberries, etc etc,, > this year,, since stuff started growing months ago it has been sooo warm > here,, > bad news,– forest fires,,  the Kootneys are the dryest they have been in > over 80 years ,, no snow pack either, since we did not get our usual rainy > winter here,, > already they have started with water restrictions,, !!!!  for your lawns!!! > what happened to the super wet Vancouver??? its more like california, than > any other city in Canada!!!   golfers pounding balls in end of january on > green golf courses!!! bare of any snow!!!!  if it isnt frozen it is usually > tooo wet to walk on!!! full of ducks too. >  her is a cool shooter i make!!!!!! or gross looking!! > take a shooter of grandmarnier,, then a CLEAN syringe(no needle) from your > betaseron kit,etc,, draw into the syringe some bailey’s or somethng else > creamy and pale or white in colour,carolannes,, > inject into the shooter,, very slowly and carefully( it takes to get good at > this),,  and make a small  human shaped body,, in the middle,, (i use a big > 2 ounce shooter glass) , > – then clean out the syringe,, of bailey’s,,  then take the Needle , and > attach to the syringe, again,, > now use something like blue curacaoa or whatever its called,, and slowly > insert the needle into the shooter,, and make a line type thing starting at > the human shaped things Belly button,, outward to the side of the glass, > stop, remove > now you just made a ”test tube baby”  shooter,, more realistic than any > bartender can do!!! secret is the needle/syringe!!!! > if it dont look quite good enough,, then no problen,, just give the shooter > a shake,, and it becomes an ”abortion” shooter!!!!!!!!!! > i tried using grenaadine to make some blood coloured membrane along the > umbilical chord,, but it tasted rude,, !!! looked cool though,, > yah i have too much time on my hands,, but when i didnt drink for the last 7 > years ,, cause of meds,,  i made other  people weird shooters,,    like my > grandmarnier/ kahlua/coffee bean – ”diarrea” creation,,, looks likeit,, > but tastes ,, better?? > i cut up small pieces of marshmallow for my -”menstruation creation” not > gonna describe this one,    ok,,,, lets just say, white thread tied to the > marshmallow piece,, add colour!!! makes you sick,,and you get drunk!!! > someone dared me to make a gross looking shooter,,  i made 30!!! > ”gummy bear drowning pool”’  ,, for more effect- ”headless gummy bears” > or my ‘’sex posing gummy bears”!!!!  in a shooter,gummy bears stick > together !!!!, kinda limited on postioning them,, only done 2 pages of kama > sutra!!! > my jeffrey dahmer shooter,, just about 10 gummy bear left over cut off > heads in a shooter,, > or , cut up arms , legs, from gunmy bears,,,  in vodka for clarity of > view!!!!! add some grenadine for blood,,, you make a ”airplane crash site” > shooter,, > LSD  shooter-  put a few smarties in some grandmarnier!!! freaky!! plus > chocolate goes well with grandmarnier!!! > using a syringe/needle makes for some fine artwork in a glass!!! > bobD   :^)

  bobD – now you have frightened me…..;-)    Kathy K.

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news:aS4vc.639271$oR5.210567@pd7tw3no… > using a syringe/needle makes for some fine artwork in a glass!!! > bobD   :^)

Bob, you ever have an Irish Car Bomb?  MMmmm, goes down smooth.  Its a mix of Kahlua and something else in a shot glass.  You drop the shotglass into a half pint of beer (I forgot which kind) and pound it immediately.  YUM! Rob

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Once upon a time Rob Duncan in cqudndDYiMn5lyDdRVn…@gbronline.com   > Quoth; – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "bobD" <phatbh…@REMOVEshaw.ca> wrote in message > news:aS4vc.639271$oR5.210567@pd7tw3no… >> using a syringe/needle makes for some fine artwork in a glass!!! >> bobD   :^) > Bob, you ever have an Irish Car Bomb?  MMmmm, goes down smooth.  Its a mix > of Kahlua and something else in a shot glass.  You drop the shotglass into a > half pint of beer (I forgot which kind) and pound it immediately.  YUM! > Rob

BobD and Rob,   My  mind is reeling with possiblities now.  My previous icky drinks were not close to your obvious mastery of the genre. I humbly submit:   Gin & creme soda,  and   Ouzo with non-dairy creamer. I’m not even NEAR your genius. Lo

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news:c9ihu1$k83$1@news.netins.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "bobD" <phatbh…@REMOVEshaw.ca> wrote in message > news:3s3vc.638597$oR5.309283@pd7tw3no… > > "hantayo" <hantay…@netins.net> wrote in message > > news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net… > > > Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. What > > else > > > can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray tell. ; -) I’m > > > having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe me – a Seagram’s > > > Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so refreshing! You might know > that > > > Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri anywhere! > > its easy to find your own!!!,, buy some fresh strawberries!!!  we have an > > early bumper crop here in the Strawberry capital of Canada!!! langley > bc!!! > >  take blender,, add lots of berries,,, some crushed ice,,, lotsa rum,, > > add in some frozen yogurt too,, to smooth it out,, mmm, > > best daiquari in the world,,, !!! > >  grrrrrrrr Life is so > > > unfair…:-( > > >    Kathy (hick-up…) K. > > yup i know i have no rum!!! but lots of berries,,, > > bobD >   Thanks a lot, bobD – now I’m salivating (and that’s not a pretty > picture…). Gee – could you please send me some strawberries & I’ll try to > come up with the rum…. ;-) >     Kathy K.

thanks to global warming,, our berries are early this year,,, all my blueberries will be ready to start eating in a month,, early july not august!!!  plus langley has a bumper crop of strawberries,, raspberries, etc etc,, this year,, since stuff started growing months ago it has been sooo warm here,, bad news,– forest fires,,  the Kootneys are the dryest they have been in over 80 years ,, no snow pack either, since we did not get our usual rainy winter here,, already they have started with water restrictions,, !!!!  for your lawns!!! what happened to the super wet Vancouver??? its more like california, than any other city in Canada!!!   golfers pounding balls in end of january on green golf courses!!! bare of any snow!!!!  if it isnt frozen it is usually tooo wet to walk on!!! full of ducks too.  her is a cool shooter i make!!!!!! or gross looking!! take a shooter of grandmarnier,, then a CLEAN syringe(no needle) from your betaseron kit,etc,, draw into the syringe some bailey’s or somethng else creamy and pale or white in colour,carolannes,, inject into the shooter,, very slowly and carefully( it takes to get good at this),,  and make a small  human shaped body,, in the middle,, (i use a big 2 ounce shooter glass) , – then clean out the syringe,, of bailey’s,,  then take the Needle , and attach to the syringe, again,, now use something like blue curacaoa or whatever its called,, and slowly insert the needle into the shooter,, and make a line type thing starting at the human shaped things Belly button,, outward to the side of the glass, stop, remove now you just made a ”test tube baby”  shooter,, more realistic than any bartender can do!!! secret is the needle/syringe!!!! if it dont look quite good enough,, then no problen,, just give the shooter a shake,, and it becomes an ”abortion” shooter!!!!!!!!!! i tried using grenaadine to make some blood coloured membrane along the umbilical chord,, but it tasted rude,, !!! looked cool though,, yah i have too much time on my hands,, but when i didnt drink for the last 7 years ,, cause of meds,,  i made other  people weird shooters,,    like my grandmarnier/ kahlua/coffee bean – ”diarrea” creation,,, looks likeit,, but tastes ,, better?? i cut up small pieces of marshmallow for my -”menstruation creation” not gonna describe this one,    ok,,,, lets just say, white thread tied to the marshmallow piece,, add colour!!! makes you sick,,and you get drunk!!! someone dared me to make a gross looking shooter,,  i made 30!!! ”gummy bear drowning pool”’  ,, for more effect- ”headless gummy bears” or my ‘’sex posing gummy bears”!!!!  in a shooter,gummy bears stick together !!!!, kinda limited on postioning them,, only done 2 pages of kama sutra!!! my jeffrey dahmer shooter,, just about 10 gummy bear left over cut off heads in a shooter,, or , cut up arms , legs, from gunmy bears,,,  in vodka for clarity of view!!!!! add some grenadine for blood,,, you make a ”airplane crash site” shooter,, LSD  shooter-  put a few smarties in some grandmarnier!!! freaky!! plus chocolate goes well with grandmarnier!!! using a syringe/needle makes for some fine artwork in a glass!!! bobD   :^)

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news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net… > Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. What else > can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray tell. ; -) I’m > having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe me – a Seagram’s > Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so refreshing! You might know that > Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri anywhere!

its easy to find your own!!!,, buy some fresh strawberries!!!  we have an early bumper crop here in the Strawberry capital of Canada!!! langley bc!!!  take blender,, add lots of berries,,, some crushed ice,,, lotsa rum,, add in some frozen yogurt too,, to smooth it out,, mmm, best daiquari in the world,,, !!!  grrrrrrrr Life is so > unfair…:-( >    Kathy (hick-up…) K.

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news:3s3vc.638597$oR5.309283@pd7tw3no… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "hantayo" <hantay…@netins.net> wrote in message > news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net… > > Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. What > else > > can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray tell. ; -) I’m > > having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe me – a Seagram’s > > Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so refreshing! You might know that > > Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri anywhere! > its easy to find your own!!!,, buy some fresh strawberries!!!  we have an > early bumper crop here in the Strawberry capital of Canada!!! langley bc!!! >  take blender,, add lots of berries,,, some crushed ice,,, lotsa rum,, > add in some frozen yogurt too,, to smooth it out,, mmm, > best daiquari in the world,,, !!! >  grrrrrrrr Life is so > > unfair…:-( > >    Kathy (hick-up…) K. > yup i know i have no rum!!! but lots of berries,,, > bobD

  Thanks a lot, bobD – now I’m salivating (and that’s not a pretty picture…). Gee – could you please send me some strawberries & I’ll try to come up with the rum…. ;-)     Kathy K.

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news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net… > Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. What else > can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray tell. ; -) I’m > having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe me – a Seagram’s > Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so refreshing! You might know that > Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri anywhere! grrrrrrrr Life is so > unfair…:-( >    Kathy (hick-up…) K.

Party on K!  I think well join ya tonight if thats allright.  Im in the mood for some cool brew myself. Rob

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news:cLCdnZ0htuSc1iTdRVn-jg@gbronline.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "hantayo" <hantay…@netins.net> wrote in message > news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net… > > Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. What > else > > can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray tell. ; -) I’m > > having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe me – a Seagram’s > > Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so refreshing! You might know that > > Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri anywhere! grrrrrrrr Life is > so > > unfair…:-( > >    Kathy (hick-up…) K. > Party on K!  I think well join ya tonight if thats allright.  Im in the mood > for some cool brew myself. > Rob

 Party on R.! You better be a good boy & behave yourself Rob….;-)    Kathy K.

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 Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. What else can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray tell. ; -) I’m having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe me – a Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so refreshing! You might know that Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri anywhere! grrrrrrrr Life is so unfair…:-(    Kathy (hick-up…) K.

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In <news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net>, hantayo said: > Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. > What else can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray > tell. ; -) I’m having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe > me – a Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so > refreshing! You might know that Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry > Daiquiri anywhere! grrrrrrrr Life is so unfair…:-( >    Kathy (hick-up…) K.

Coolers? Beer. Well… beer or scotch whisky. Uhhh… beer or scotch whisky or moonshine. Hmmm… beer or scotch whisky or moonshine or shiraz. Yeah… beer or scotch whisky or moonshine or shiraz or Glacierberry cider. Tonight, it’s beer.   One can of beer.    One 950ml, 8%alc. can of "Mongoose" beer. <belches>   ‘Scuzi. ((U))   M

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news:2hsu33Fgn9k0U1@uni-berlin.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In <news:c9beja$lpm$1@news.netins.net>, > hantayo said: > > Wine coolers & Saturday night just go together – don’t you think. > > What else can one do while they wait for more thunderstorms – pray > > tell. ; -) I’m having a Seagram’s Wild Berries tonight. But – believe > > me – a Seagram’s Strawberry Daiquiri is the best & it is so > > refreshing! You might know that Dale can’t find Seagram’s Strawberry > > Daiquiri anywhere! grrrrrrrr Life is so unfair…:-( > >    Kathy (hick-up…) K. > Coolers? > Beer. > Well… beer or scotch whisky. > Uhhh… beer or scotch whisky or moonshine. > Hmmm… beer or scotch whisky or moonshine or shiraz. > Yeah… beer or scotch whisky or moonshine or shiraz or Glacierberry cider. > Tonight, it’s beer.   One can of beer.    One 950ml, 8%alc. can of > "Mongoose" beer. > <belches>   ‘Scuzi. > ((U)) >   M

  Yous scuz… Well – it’z gud nots to dink aaaaloon — I meanz aaaalooone…     Kathy (whoopsy daisy…) K.

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Taking my wife up for the first time

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Even more embarassing, I got a call a few hours later saying that they found the problem with COM1. They turned the volume up. Ha!  It’s not every day someone makes coffee come out my nose…  Great way to start the day… Thanks for sharing that.  We’ve all done equally stupid things, and this is a good place to share those experiences. — Jay Honeck

It kinda reminds me of this joke: You guys probably have all seen all these before: these are (supposedly!!) complaints of Quantas pilots to their mechanics … and their response. (P = The problem logged by the pilot.) (S = The solution and action taken by the engineers.) P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement. S: Almost replaced left inside main tire. P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough. S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft. P: Something loose in cockpit. S: Something tightened in cockpit. P: Dead bugs on windshield. S: Live bugs on back-order. P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent. S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground. P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear. S: Evidence removed. P: DME volume unbelievably loud. S: DME volume set to more believable level. P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick. S: That’s what they’re there for P: Suspected crack in windshield. S: Suspect you’re right P: Number 3 engine missing. S: Engine found on right wing after brief search. P: Aircraft handles funny. S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious. P: Target radar hums. S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics. P: Mouse in cockpit. S: Cat installed. P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer. S: Took hammer away from midget. — Marco Rispoli – NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community – http://www.thepilotlounge.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Most would say that it is a good thing to not use words like "dangerous" while in the plane, until there is a ongoing, real time situation.  Other things can be said to get the point across, without fear.  Like, "There is a lot going on in the pattern, so I will be at my peak concentration, and not interacting with you very much."  Much more confidence inspiring. :-)  Use the positive, and not the negative. — Jim in NC — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Yeah that’s what I told her, I didn’t use the word dangerous: I told her that in the pattern things get VERY busy and I need to talk on the radio frequently and listen to it. Also: my briefings to my wife are done on the ground. Not in the air. By the time we are up I don’t want to have to explain too much. She should already know the basics she needs to know for that flight. The word "Dangerous" related to a pattern is only in my head. — Marco Rispoli – NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community – http://www.thepilotlounge.com

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For the first time last week, on Sunday evening I took my wife up with me in the Piper 180 at Central Jersey. I have to confess that I was a lot more scared than she was. In fact she was COMPLETELY indifferent to the point of annoyance. I on the other hand was utterly terrified. I mean, what if the engine quits? Oh I can maneuver that thing on the ground a probably land it in a field (PLENTY of fields around Central Jersey) but … my wife is in it with me. I can’t bear the thought of her going down with the plane and me.

Delightful story, Marco. I’ve been there. We want to protect the family we love but we want to push farther into the sky we love. It can be a dilemma. — Gene Seibel Hangar 131 – http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html Because I fly, I envy no one.

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most guys are actually concerned with taking her down for the first time… HECTOP PP-ASEL-IA http://www.maxho.com maxho_at_maxho.com

LOL!! Bravo!!! Bravo!!!!

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I wonder what the FAR have to say about "topless-flying" … hehe Not original to me: http://www.panix.com/~jac/aviation/mhc.html

LOL!  No way!  Wouldn’t that be fun calling FBOs.  "Hi, um…well, I’ve got my instrument and commercial and I was looking into getting my Mile High Club Rating….no, seriously.  Hello?  Hello?" -gattman PP/SEL   IFR&MHCR-in-training

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I wonder what the FAR have to say about "topless-flying" … hehe http://www.panix.com/~jac/aviation/mhc.html LOL!  No way!  Wouldn’t that be fun calling FBOs.  "Hi, um…well, I’ve got my instrument and commercial and I was looking into getting my Mile High Club Rating….no, seriously.  Hello?  Hello?" -gattman PP/SEL   IFR&MHCR-in-training

Be careful who you choose for an instructor.  Not all have the MHC add-on rating, and student/instructor compatibility becomes much more important… John —

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Nice story man.  Thanks! For the first time last week, on Sunday evening I took my wife up with me in the Piper 180 at Central Jersey.

– Mike Flyin’8

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I have to confess that I was a lot more scared than she was. In fact she was COMPLETELY indifferent to the point of annoyance.

That describes my first flight with my own plane perfectly.  Now I’m feeling a little guilty that I was more worried about bending my plane than bending my wife! — Ben Jackson http://www.ben.com/

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I do a radio check and the lady at the school answers with "I hear you loud and clear Marco".

Get used to it. Half the time somebody says "Hello George" when I announce on approach, and I haven’t been based there for years. Not much danger that they’ll start calling you "Tennessee", though.  :-) George Patterson      I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

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Right on, Marco, well done.  Don’t worry, it gets easier.  My wife and son were my first passengers. They were also the passengers on board when the nosewheel collapsed in our "new" plane and we slammed nose-first onto the pavement and slid 500 feet to a stop, and one of my first thoughts as we were running into the field was that they would never go up with me again.  It took almost a year, but they did. They are still the passengers I take up most often, and definitely the most enthusiastic.  Never underestimate your non-pilot family.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Marco, Moral(s) of the story: 1.  Make sure someone else flies the plane for an hour after its next annual before me. 2. Check the volume. 3. Use COM2 4. If I had it to do over again, I would have fixed the problem on the ground before taking it in the air. I REALLY hope I never am that stupid again.  Especially because next week I am taking my wife up for the first time. We’re not just going around the patch, either. Adam P.S.  Please don’t chastise me.  I realize how stupid I was!

Please don’t feel bad! Your problem is not stupidity: your problem is that you never had to deal with a "prankster" instructor: you have no idea how often I had to put up with my instructor turning things off on me while I wasn’t looking. More than once he would ask me to close my eyes for "supposedly" unusual attitude recovery. He would twist and turn the plane while I wasn’t looking and then make me recover it. Little did i know that he would turn the volume of the radio down to nothing. Or that time that I was so engrossed in the runup and he turned off the radios. He didn’t let me take off. He asked me "Why didn’t you do a radio check?" "Oh" goes I "Sure! Linden unicom radio check please" Nothing. "Linden unicom radio check please" Silence. "ahhh … Linden unicom, radio check please?" Nada. "Maybe they are in the bathroom?" Blank stare from my instructor (god I don’t wanna play poker with him). My instructor was in "asshole" mode that day, since I was about to get ready for my X-country checkride. "I don’t know. You are PIC. What do YOU think?" he asks. And from the tone of his voice I can tell his feet are on the brakes and the plane is NOT moving. He looks at a plane turning from base to final. Nothing is coming out of the radio. My newbie brain finally reaches a new level of conciousness and awarenees washes over my neurons as I finally realize that maybe just MAYBE I should be chacking the dang radios instead of just pouding on the mike button in the yoke. A quick search … lets me discover that the frequency is not on 123.00 but on the practice area frequency … he was sneaky enough NOT to turn off the radios (I would have noticed the silence with the engine at low RPMS on the ground) and he set it to the practice area frequency so that I could still hear the static. Yes my instructor was a prank-star. I am still burning for that one … Trust me … I triple check the radios every single time now. — Marco Rispoli – NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community – http://www.thepilotlounge.com

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Even more embarassing, I got a call a few hours later saying that they found the problem with COM1. They turned the volume up.

Ha!  It’s not every day someone makes coffee come out my nose…  Great way to start the day… Thanks for sharing that.  We’ve all done equally stupid things, and this is a good place to share those experiences. — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"

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As soon as I hit the 45 my brain goes in overdrive and nothing else exists other than the pattern, the radio and the plane. I knew this was going to happen. So I told her before-hand that in the pattern I have to pay attention to traffic cause it’s a dangerous area. — Marco Rispoli

Most would say that it is a good thing to not use words like "dangerous" while in the plane, until there is a ongoing, real time situation.  Other things can be said to get the point across, without fear.  Like, "There is a lot going on in the pattern, so I will be at my peak concentration, and not interacting with you very much."  Much more confidence inspiring. :-)  Use the positive, and not the negative. — Jim in NC — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Marco, I just took my first passenger up today!  I took a friend who is a student pilot (I’m taking my wife next weekend). Unfortunately, my first flight wasn’t all that smooth. Actually, the flight was fine, but the plane was a little quirky. The plane literally came out of annual right before I flew it. There were lots of little things that weren’t quite right, but nothing serious. For example, when the mechanic lubed the throttle, he forgot to screw the throttle-friction cap back on. It was just hanging on the throttle rod. Anyway, after a relatively uneventful preflight (little stuff like I said), we taxied out and did our run up. Did the run up, then did a clearing turn. To my surprise, there was a plane on short final…no radio call or anything! I began to think maybe the radio wasn’t working, and called for a radio check…no answer It was 7:00am, so maybe the plane that didn’t use the radio was the only one out there. I decided to do a quick pattern and check if the radio worked by turning on the pilot-controlled VASI lights. Sure enough, the lights came on!  It must have been that other plane! In the mean time, I failed to notice that my friend was digging his nails into his legs! We decided to go to another nearby uncontrolled airport to shoot some patterns. Again, I saw more traffic, but heard nothing.  I finally figured that my transmitter was working, but receiver wasn’t. We kept an eagle-eye for traffic and announced our position at every turn. When we got back I told my flight instructor (who I rent the plane from) about COM1 not working. He got in another plane and tried to contact me. Sure enough.  I told him I couldn’t hear him on COM1, but COM2 was just fine! COM2??? Why didn’t I think of that in the air? Chalk it up to experience. Even more embarassing, I got a call a few hours later saying that they found the problem with COM1. They turned the volume up. Even more lessons learned. In 50 hours of flying that plane, I never once had to touch the volume on the radio. I didn’t even think of it. Moral(s) of the story: 1.  Make sure someone else flies the plane for an hour after its next annual before me. 2. Check the volume. 3. Use COM2 4. If I had it to do over again, I would have fixed the problem on the ground before taking it in the air. I REALLY hope I never am that stupid again.  Especially because next week I am taking my wife up for the first time. We’re not just going around the patch, either. Adam P.S.  Please don’t chastise me.  I realize how stupid I was!

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… until I entered the pattern, and then I went stone silent.  She thought that something must be wrong.  I wasn’t aware of it at all, just concentrating on the landing.

I do the same. As soon as I hit the 45 my brain goes in overdrive and nothing else exists other than the pattern, the radio and the plane. I knew this was going to happen. So I told her before-hand that in the pattern I have to pay attention to traffic cause it’s a dangerous area. — Marco Rispoli – NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community – http://www.thepilotlounge.com

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I wonder what the FAR have to say about "topless-flying" … hehe

Not original to me: http://www.panix.com/~jac/aviation/mhc.html –jac —

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One time in college I took a date up over the campus and she promptly decided she wanted to try flying in a plane topless.  Whatdayado?! That was the harde…excuse me, most difficult…time I’ve ever had staying focused on flying the plane.  I can say however with absolute clarity that there was no other traffic out there between the one o’clock and four o’clock portion of my scan.  I know, ’cause I checked. A lot. -c

I wonder what the FAR have to say about "topless-flying" … hehe :-P — Marco Rispoli – NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community – http://www.thepilotlounge.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do a radio check and the lady at the school answers with "I hear you loud and clear Marco". Get used to it. Half the time somebody says "Hello George" when I announce on approach, and I haven’t been based there for years. Not much danger that they’ll start calling you "Tennessee", though.  :-) George Patterson      I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

Marco "Tennessee" Rispoli. I kinda like the sound of that, though! hehe … — Marco Rispoli – NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community – http://www.thepilotlounge.com

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Right on, Marco, well done.  Don’t worry, it gets easier.  My wife and son were my first passengers. They were also the passengers on board when the nosewheel collapsed in our "new" plane and we slammed nose-first onto the pavement and slid 500 feet to a stop, and one of my first thoughts as we were running into the field was that they would never go up with me again.  It took almost a year, but they did. They are still the passengers I take up most often, and definitely the most enthusiastic.  Never underestimate your non-pilot family.

Ouch! Well I feel the same way. I know that if my engine quits I know enough to put the plane down (in good weather that is) without killing myself and possibly (if I have a good field) without hurting the plane (too much). But an "accident" like that, with my wife on board would probably wake up the same fearful thought: "Now she won’t fly with me anymore". That’s it! You nailed it. — Marco Rispoli – NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community – http://www.thepilotlounge.com

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I on the other hand was utterly terrified.

Great story, Marco!  Thanks for writing it. If it makes you feel any better, I still get nervous when taking first-time passengers up. Taking responsibility for another person’s life is not to be trivialized — although strangely, after you’ve taken the same person up a number of times, that nervousness goes away. I suppose I figure they’ve become resigned to their fate — whatever that fate may be — by their third flight with me!   :-) — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"

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Good story, Marco.  Congratulations on getting through it.  When I took my wife up as my "first passenger" at SMQ, she was similarly very relaxed. Afterwards though, she pointed out that I was telling her everything I was doing (I’m a teacher at heart) until I entered the pattern, and then I went stone silent.  She thought that something must be wrong.  I wasn’t aware of it at all, just concentrating on the landing.  She still flies with me, though. — Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways) I don’t have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love America

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For the first time last week, on Sunday evening I took my wife up with me in the Piper 180 at Central Jersey.

Women!  Can’t live with ‘em?  Can’t live with ‘em is what I always say. I’ve read hundreds of "best stories I’ve read on RAP" over the years.  This one will be added to the list.  Thanks for sharing. — Jim Fisher

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One time in college I took a date up over the campus and she promptly decided she wanted to try flying in a plane topless.  Whatdayado?! That was the harde…excuse me, most difficult…time I’ve ever had staying focused on flying the plane.  I can say however with absolute clarity that there was no other traffic out there between the one o’clock and four o’clock portion of my scan.  I know, ’cause I checked. A lot. -c

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most guys are actually concerned with taking her down for the first time… HECTOP PP-ASEL-IA http://www.maxho.com maxho_at_maxho.com

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For the first time last week, on Sunday evening I took my wife up with me in the Piper 180 at Central Jersey. I have to confess that I was a lot more scared than she was. In fact she was COMPLETELY indifferent to the point of annoyance. I on the other hand was utterly terrified. I mean, what if the engine quits? Oh I can maneuver that thing on the ground a probably land it in a field (PLENTY of fields around Central Jersey) but … my wife is in it with me. I can’t bear the thought of her going down with the plane and me. So I did the most thorough pre-flight of Piper history. It took me 45 minutes to preflight the plane while i surgically peeked at every cable, bolt, rivet, shone a flashlight in every corner of the engine, triple checked the fuel levels, etc. If I could have taken the plane apart I would have. Throughout all this my wife is lying in the grass, under the shade of the considerably huge rudder of the Cherokee, perfectly calm (as usual) humming to herself and eying the few puffy clouds that were passing by. There’s 5 quarts of oil… there’s supposed to be 5 to 7. Unacceptable. I need another quart. We are just going around for a bit. I just wanted my wife to get used to the idea of flying with me … … actually, let me rephrase that: I just wanted to get used to the idea of me flying with my wife … or any other hapless, clueless passenger for that matter. This was the first time I took someone up. I never took anyone up other than myself and my butt … and various flight instructors. After adding some oil it’s time to start loading the plane. My wife dons the headset sits in and looks at me half annoyed half amused while I try to explain to her how to unbuckle herself or open the piper’s door. She gives me a look as if to say "I figured that out by myself about half a second after taking a look at it dear". So here I am … sitting in the left seat. Wondering … no. No more wondering. Thank God for training is all I have to say. The moment I am in the left seat the pilot side of the brain takes over and my hands and eyes start moving around the cockpit to start the engine. THe engine purrs to life and we are moving. My wife quietly sits in the right seat while I preflight the plane, unwondering and unaffected and generally stone faced … except that when I look at her, she looks at me and she gives me a "You’ll be all right" smile. Wait … I am the PIC. I am supposed to smile the "You’ll be all right smile". Whatever. Engine is good. Nice and smooth (and noisy) as usual. I do a radio check and the lady at the school answers with "I hear you loud and clear Marco". Dang my Italian accent. I don’t really wanna know how funny I sound on the radio … Now that I am in the routine though … I am far less nervous. I am in the plane. All the sounds and lights and clues indicate that the bird wants to fly. Pattern is clear and here we go. We fly around a little bit. South of Central Jersey at around 2500 feet. So nice and peaceful up here. Nice fields and small groups of trees. Farms and houses and golf courses. For some reason this is very relaxing to me. My wife stops paying attention to me or the plane and starts going "Uuuuhhh" and "Ahhhh" over the landscape and takes a few pictures. After about 20 minutes of flying around we head back and I decide to do a couple of patterns with her in the right seat. In the pattern my wife disappears from my mind and the only thing left is the plane and traffic (which is ZERO for today). I line up and do a really nice smooth landing and what does my do? She makes a face of "approval" and nods once, like an expert wine taster would nod and approve after tasting some fancy wine that is decent .. nothing too special but good to get you rid of that scratch in the back of your throat. For some reason I think I get a B+ in her head. Yes honey. You probably have hundreds of flight as a passenger in your background. Yes you can probably tell if the pilot sneezed during the flare by every little jerky movement of the plane. I shake my head in wry amusement … and I was worried. Jeez, God forbid she becomes and FAA examiner. I feel pity for the miserable student that will fly with her. I do another run in the pattern, then she decides to get off the plane and go look for food while I finish practicing a few more landings. That was the end of it. My first passenger and my first flight with my wife. Anti-climactic to say the least. Here are the pictures she took: http://www.thepilotlounge.com/scripts/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=749 — Marco Rispoli – NJ, USA / PP-ASEL My on-line aviation community – http://www.thepilotlounge.com

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Where in the blue blazes…

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I got lost in the woods today. It’s finally nice enough to run outside – mud season is over.  I had about 50 minutes before my first client of the morning and I decided to go on a measured two mile run and be back in time to shower and be ready for the client. Unfortunately, the route I had chosen starts out for the first half mile going up a narrow winding road (called "Mountain Road" for reasons I’d never before contemplated) and I kept having to keep my dog in close check to avoid the traffic – no sidewalks or shoulder.  But we got to the park and ran up the park trail (and I do mean UP, it goes up a steep hill to a lookout tower.)  I let the dog off-leash and we ran/walked on the mountain trail mile loop.  But then I was back to where I had to go back via the steep winding road. But just across the street, beckoning me with pretty blue blazes, was a trail through the woods.  The trail head said "Sachem’s Head .9 miles" and I know where Sachem’s Head is and it’s in the right direction for my house, so off I went, figuring the joining trails would be just as well marked. Well. I found the mountain.  In fact, that geological feature is referred to around here as "Rocky Ridge" and more specifically, I found the ridge. I went the entire mile at the TOP OF A CLIFF.  There was absolutely no way down and no intersecting trails.  I could see my house most of the way… but I could see pretty much all of the houses in our town and a few in the next town, too. I ended up over-shooting my house by maybe 3/4 of a mile and having to backtrack once I found a path down from Sachem’s Head (a very pretty lookout point deep in the woods that I’d been to before, but not ever accidently).  It was very tough climbing down – holding onto rock crevices, sapling trees, etc.  I put the dog back on the leash just to help catch her if she fell. Once I got down off the mountain-goat trail I really had to run hard – I had a client waiting!  My poor dog was having trouble keeping up.  None of her dog-walkers do this to her!  But when I got home (over an hour after I left) the client had called in saying he’d be late.  He arrived about two minutes after I did.  Phew! Yes, I saw a client while dressed in sweaty running clothes.  But I was mostly just happy to be alive.  Next time I’ll take a water bottle and flare gun! Dally, who really ought to take a look at those trail maps sometime

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Glad to hear you got home ok, tired and sweaty but ok. That sort of thing can be quite frightening. Michelle : Ozzie in Switzerland 69.8/59.5/61kg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got lost in the woods today. It’s finally nice enough to run outside – mud season is over.  I had about 50 minutes before my first client of the morning and I decided to go on a measured two mile run and be back in time to shower and be ready for the client. Unfortunately, the route I had chosen starts out for the first half mile going up a narrow winding road (called "Mountain Road" for reasons I’d never before contemplated) and I kept having to keep my dog in close check to avoid the traffic – no sidewalks or shoulder.  But we got to the park and ran up the park trail (and I do mean UP, it goes up a steep hill to a lookout tower.)  I let the dog off-leash and we ran/walked on the mountain trail mile loop.  But then I was back to where I had to go back via the steep winding road. But just across the street, beckoning me with pretty blue blazes, was a trail through the woods.  The trail head said "Sachem’s Head .9 miles" and I know where Sachem’s Head is and it’s in the right direction for my house, so off I went, figuring the joining trails would be just as well marked. Well. I found the mountain.  In fact, that geological feature is referred to around here as "Rocky Ridge" and more specifically, I found the ridge. I went the entire mile at the TOP OF A CLIFF.  There was absolutely no way down and no intersecting trails.  I could see my house most of the way… but I could see pretty much all of the houses in our town and a few in the next town, too. I ended up over-shooting my house by maybe 3/4 of a mile and having to backtrack once I found a path down from Sachem’s Head (a very pretty lookout point deep in the woods that I’d been to before, but not ever accidently).  It was very tough climbing down – holding onto rock crevices, sapling trees, etc.  I put the dog back on the leash just to help catch her if she fell. Once I got down off the mountain-goat trail I really had to run hard – I had a client waiting!  My poor dog was having trouble keeping up.  None of her dog-walkers do this to her!  But when I got home (over an hour after I left) the client had called in saying he’d be late.  He arrived about two minutes after I did.  Phew! Yes, I saw a client while dressed in sweaty running clothes.  But I was mostly just happy to be alive.  Next time I’ll take a water bottle and flare gun! Dally, who really ought to take a look at those trail maps sometime

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I got lost in the woods today.

Well – hell – with the lack of posting from you this week, I thought you got lost getting home from FL last weekend!  :-) But, I have to say, your adventure sounds fun, dispite being long…  

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I got lost in the woods today. Well – hell – with the lack of posting from you this week, I thought you got lost getting home from FL last weekend!  :-)

Hey, you just missed it.  I posted my most recent pictures in the Dally’s trip thread. Meanwhile, I see you inviting people to come visit you… HA!  HA! I say again.  Like that would work! (No worries, I’ll try again next year.)  :-) But, I have to say, your adventure sounds fun, dispite being long…  

I think it would have been if I hadn’t had the time pressure.  I’ve got to look up trail maps, though.  I’ve got this huge park right next door to me and I really only know a few strolling paths through it.  The local high school runs cross country races in there and I can’t even imagine what route they take. This ridge is maybe 10 miles long and maybe two miles wide – I won’t figure this out without some outside help.  Or a lot of adventures.  :-) Dally

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Sounds like a good run!  A bit of adventure :-) . Chris

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Hey, you just missed it.  I posted my most recent pictures in the Dally’s trip thread.

I don’t see that thread…  must be hidden in another older thread hanging out there somewhere on my browser. Meanwhile, I see you inviting people to come visit you… HA!  HA! I say again.  Like that would work! (No worries, I’ll try again next year.)  :-)

Yea, this year was bad timing.   And on Sunday morning as DH and I were out for a bike ride I was totally kicking myself for not trying to hook up even early on sunday before you left.  Hell – I missed seeing you at this lower weight and I was looking forward to it.    <kick, kick, kick   And I coulda ridden to your place, then I coulda riden while you jogged.  :)   (the knee won’t let me jog yet).   Stupid me…. I just got off another 12hr day, and I’m going back to work tomorrow for another 12+ hr day again.   This working 75 – 80 hr weeks is for the birds! Granted, its nice on the wallet, but it sucks for the social life and personal life. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But, I have to say, your adventure sounds fun, dispite being long… I think it would have been if I hadn’t had the time pressure.  I’ve got to look up trail maps, though.  I’ve got this huge park right next door to me and I really only know a few strolling paths through it.  The local high school runs cross country races in there and I can’t even imagine what route they take. This ridge is maybe 10 miles long and maybe two miles wide – I won’t figure this out without some outside help.  Or a lot of adventures.  :-) Dally

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Hey, you just missed it.  I posted my most recent pictures in the Dally’s trip thread. I don’t see that thread…  must be hidden in another older thread hanging out there somewhere on my browser.

Here’s another link – I added more pictures to the front view showing the whole series.  You saw me at around week 36 – I’ve improved in the year since then.  :-) http://www.body-for-life-tracker.com/showphotos.cfm?id=34 I just got off another 12hr day, and I’m going back to work tomorrow for another 12+ hr day again.   This working 75 – 80 hr weeks is for the birds! Granted, its nice on the wallet, but it sucks for the social life and personal life.

I wondered if you were salaried or get over-time.  It *really* sucks to be salaried when this sort of thing comes up.  BTDT. But, I have to say, your adventure sounds fun, dispite being long… I think it would have been if I hadn’t had the time pressure.  I’ve got to look up trail maps, though.  I’ve got this huge park right next door to me and I really only know a few strolling paths through it.  The local high school runs cross country races in there and I can’t even imagine what route they take. This ridge is maybe 10 miles long and maybe two miles wide – I won’t figure this out without some outside help.  Or a lot of adventures.  :-)

Just to follow up on myself, I’ve been searching for maps.  I’ve found a topo map but it doesn’t show trails.  I also found a link citing the 19 miles of trails through-out the park… I guess I was lucky to only have added an extra mile and a half to my run this morning! Dally

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I got lost in the woods today.

<adventure snipped Dally, who really ought to take a look at those trail maps sometime

This is precisely the reason DH bought me my GPS (Garmin Forerunner) for Christmas…ok, well that and because I asked for one.  Anyway, I plan to hit some serious trails & out of the way logging roads in heavily wooded & unpopulated areas to go biking (and some running if the legs get better) and he knows I will get lost and eaten by bears as I have no natural ability to find my way out if I get off track.  I *can* tell the difference between north and south as long as the sun is out, but that only works when you know you have to head north or south. Jenn also planning to find my way around a lot of golf courses this summer – but they have signs posted

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Sounds like a good run!  A bit of adventure :-) .

Yup.  I had my MP3 player on and Supertramp came on singing "take the long way home" and it seemed appropriate.  I never got really SCARED (I mean, seriously, I could *see* my roof) but I was worried about the client.  And feeling a bit foolish about getting lost within sight of my house. I found another link calling it a mountain not a ridge.  Isn’t it funny how you can live on the side of a mountain and not notice it?  BTW, the reason they call it "Mountain Road" is because it’s the only road that goes near there.  Duh.  I’m really too stupid to live sometime. Happy birthday! Dally, hoping to make it to 56

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sounds like a good run!  A bit of adventure :-) . Yup.  I had my MP3 player on and Supertramp came on singing "take the long way home" and it seemed appropriate.  I never got really SCARED (I mean, seriously, I could *see* my roof) but I was worried about the client.  And feeling a bit foolish about getting lost within sight of my house. I found another link calling it a mountain not a ridge.  Isn’t it funny how you can live on the side of a mountain and not notice it?  BTW, the reason they call it "Mountain Road" is because it’s the only road that goes near there.  Duh.  I’m really too stupid to live sometime. Happy birthday! Dally, hoping to make it to 56

I expect you’ll make it to 56 :-) . We also live very close to a small mountain range — the Bull Run Mountains — and there’s a Mountain Road that runs along the base of it.  However, I don’t think I’d want to go running around there, as once you get off the main roads there are some small enclaves of kind of scary hillbilly people — like they’ll come out with gun pointed at you if you show up where you’re not expected.  They’re just people who live rough, not serious criminals, I think, but still… Chris

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Oh my!! I’m glad your okay. What a experience. Glad you got back in time for your client. Dianne

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got lost in the woods today. It’s finally nice enough to run outside – mud season is over.  I had about 50 minutes before my first client of the morning and I decided to go on a measured two mile run and be back in time to shower and be ready for the client. Unfortunately, the route I had chosen starts out for the first half mile going up a narrow winding road (called "Mountain Road" for reasons I’d never before contemplated) and I kept having to keep my dog in close check to avoid the traffic – no sidewalks or shoulder.  But we got to the park and ran up the park trail (and I do mean UP, it goes up a steep hill to a lookout tower.)  I let the dog off-leash and we ran/walked on the mountain trail mile loop.  But then I was back to where I had to go back via the steep winding road. But just across the street, beckoning me with pretty blue blazes, was a trail through the woods.  The trail head said "Sachem’s Head .9 miles" and I know where Sachem’s Head is and it’s in the right direction for my house, so off I went, figuring the joining trails would be just as well marked. Well. I found the mountain.  In fact, that geological feature is referred to around here as "Rocky Ridge" and more specifically, I found the ridge. I went the entire mile at the TOP OF A CLIFF.  There was absolutely no way down and no intersecting trails.  I could see my house most of the way… but I could see pretty much all of the houses in our town and a few in the next town, too. I ended up over-shooting my house by maybe 3/4 of a mile and having to backtrack once I found a path down from Sachem’s Head (a very pretty lookout point deep in the woods that I’d been to before, but not ever accidently).  It was very tough climbing down – holding onto rock crevices, sapling trees, etc.  I put the dog back on the leash just to help catch her if she fell. Once I got down off the mountain-goat trail I really had to run hard – I had a client waiting!  My poor dog was having trouble keeping up.  None of her dog-walkers do this to her!  But when I got home (over an hour after I left) the client had called in saying he’d be late.  He arrived about two minutes after I did.  Phew! Yes, I saw a client while dressed in sweaty running clothes.  But I was mostly just happy to be alive.  Next time I’ll take a water bottle and flare gun! Dally, who really ought to take a look at those trail maps sometime

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Dally, Do cell phones work in those wooded areas? I have no inner sense of direction. I could tell stories for days about being lost.  It is always amusing after the fact but at the time, there is this almost primal feeling of insecurity! j

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got lost in the woods today. It’s finally nice enough to run outside – mud season is over.  I had about 50 minutes before my first client of the morning and I decided to go on a measured two mile run and be back in time to shower and be ready for the client. Unfortunately, the route I had chosen starts out for the first half mile going up a narrow winding road (called "Mountain Road" for reasons I’d never before contemplated) and I kept having to keep my dog in close check to avoid the traffic – no sidewalks or shoulder.  But we got to the park and ran up the park trail (and I do mean UP, it goes up a steep hill to a lookout tower.)  I let the dog off-leash and we ran/walked on the mountain trail mile loop.  But then I was back to where I had to go back via the steep winding road. But just across the street, beckoning me with pretty blue blazes, was a trail through the woods.  The trail head said "Sachem’s Head .9 miles" and I know where Sachem’s Head is and it’s in the right direction for my house, so off I went, figuring the joining trails would be just as well marked. Well. I found the mountain.  In fact, that geological feature is referred to around here as "Rocky Ridge" and more specifically, I found the ridge. I went the entire mile at the TOP OF A CLIFF.  There was absolutely no way down and no intersecting trails.  I could see my house most of the way… but I could see pretty much all of the houses in our town and a few in the next town, too. I ended up over-shooting my house by maybe 3/4 of a mile and having to backtrack once I found a path down from Sachem’s Head (a very pretty lookout point deep in the woods that I’d been to before, but not ever accidently).  It was very tough climbing down – holding onto rock crevices, sapling trees, etc.  I put the dog back on the leash just to help catch her if she fell. Once I got down off the mountain-goat trail I really had to run hard – I had a client waiting!  My poor dog was having trouble keeping up.  None of her dog-walkers do this to her!  But when I got home (over an hour after I left) the client had called in saying he’d be late.  He arrived about two minutes after I did.  Phew! Yes, I saw a client while dressed in sweaty running clothes.  But I was mostly just happy to be alive.  Next time I’ll take a water bottle and flare gun! Dally, who really ought to take a look at those trail maps sometime

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Dally, Do cell phones work in those wooded areas? I have no inner sense of direction. I could tell stories for days about being lost.  It is always amusing after the fact but at the time, there is this almost primal feeling of insecurity! j

Yes, cellphones work.  Mind you, it’s only like 1/3 of a mile from my house – straight up.  It probably has better cell than I do in my office. But… I don’t carry my cellphone when I run.  Do you?  Remember, I was just going out for a measured two mile run with my dog.  I had the leash in one hand and my mp3 player in the other and no pockets. Today while I was at the mall (with two 13 year olds – being lost in the woods was easier) I bought a trail guide AND running shorts with lots of pockets. Sadly, I also bought bras in the next size down.  No more 40C – these were 38B.  :-( Dally, shrinking in all ways

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Here’s another link – I added more pictures to the front view showing the whole series.  You saw me at around week 36 – I’ve improved in the year since then.  :-)

Front:   WOW!!!! Side:  WOW!!!! Back:   Damn woman, your ass looks like a dog!    :-) Ela is cute!

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Sounds like a good run!  A bit of adventure :-) . Yup.  I had my MP3 player on and Supertramp came on singing "take the long way home" and it seemed appropriate.

hehe!  This one made me smile!  <VBG — jmk in NC

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dally, Do cell phones work in those wooded areas? I have no inner sense of direction. I could tell stories for days about being lost.  It is always amusing after the fact but at the time, there is this almost primal feeling of insecurity! j Yes, cellphones work.  Mind you, it’s only like 1/3 of a mile from my house – straight up.  It probably has better cell than I do in my office. But… I don’t carry my cellphone when I run.  Do you?  Remember, I was just going out for a measured two mile run with my dog.  I had the leash in one hand and my mp3 player in the other and no pockets. Today while I was at the mall (with two 13 year olds – being lost in the woods was easier) I bought a trail guide AND running shorts with lots of pockets. Sadly, I also bought bras in the next size down.  No more 40C – these were 38B.  :-( Dally, shrinking in all ways

I will try to feel badly about your 38B bra size.  Don’t wait up for me to succeed – 34A here on my way to 32. I do carry my cell phone with me when I do anything outdoors.  We’ve just had our second serial killer arrested in less than a year!  I suspect it is no more dangerous to live here than anywhere else but the press innundates with perceived threats of being brutally murdered.  This last one obviously grew up in an age of equal opportunity – he killed just about any woman – old or young, rich or poor, black or white, etc. Very unusual for a serial killer but maybe his confessions are not true according to some. Serial killers and crime aside, 1/3 of a mile from your house is a very long way in the event you hurt yourself.  I realize it is very unlikely but people can really screw up joints and tendons, etc. when they try to bear weight directly after a fresh injury compounding a minor sprain into a full blown orthopedic affair.  Also, being that I am neurotic and all, I feel better knowing that if anyone needs me, I am available.  I don’t have to rush back to check messages.  My kid, my parents, the BF and yes, even clients know how to reach me.  Mind you, I don’t always answer the phone.  I just have it with me. All that being said, people lived for centuries without being immediately accessible to the world without any recorded harm. j

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Increased International Sales?

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<Snip nope they are up, not so much for me on ebay.  but on abebooks i’m sending a lot of books to england. </Snip By comparison our sales to the US from England are down both on eBay and ABE,  presumably because of the high value of the pound against the dollar.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We have had absolutely no change in our international sales over the last five years. We are now in a global economy and ship worldwide.  Since our international policy dictates that the world is flat and only has 48 states we are happy to take foreign orders. Rita We do ship to New Mexico, though. Come to think of it, that is the only state I have never made a sale to.  Do they even have electricity?  The two states, Alaska and Hawaii, are the ones I really shouldn’t have any sales to, but do, since the bulk of my items are bulky and extremely heavy, which add drastically to shipping fees. Rita New Mexico does provide a vital function in that it protects Arizona from Texas.

True. — "Be advised that although this is actually a live broadcast and is being sent out at this very moment, it is quite possible that it might arrive tomorrow, right now, or perhaps yesterday."

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I’ve noticed a dramatic increase in international sales. I used rarely get sales to other countries. Now for the past month or two, I’m consistently selling about 10% internationally. I’m still listing about the same stuff. Anyone else see this or is it just an anomaly in my life?

Assuming you’re in the USA, it’s been like that ever since the US dollar went into the tank. A year ago the Euro bought you US$1.07, now in $1.20. A year ago a British Pound bought US$1.56, now it’s at $1.83.  So the widget I sold a Brit a month or so back for (to me) $1300 cost him over 100 UKP less than it would have a year ago.

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I’ve noticed a dramatic increase in international sales. I used rarely get sales to other countries. Now for the past month or two, I’m consistently selling about 10% internationally. I’m still listing about the same stuff. Anyone else see this or is it just an anomaly in my life? — Michael Redman — Film reviews archive: http://us.imdb.com/ReviewsBy?Michael+Redman

 We have had absolutely no change in our international sales over the last five years. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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 We have had absolutely no change in our international sales over the last five years.

We are now in a global economy and ship worldwide.  Since our international policy dictates that the world is flat and only has 48 states we are happy to take foreign orders. Rita

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I’ve noticed a dramatic increase in international sales. I used rarely get sales to other countries. Now for the past month or two, I’m consistently selling about 10% internationally. I’m still listing about the same stuff. Anyone else see this or is it just an anomaly in my life?

nope they are up, not so much for me on ebay.  but on abebooks i’m sending a lot of books to england. Robert The sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I’m getting used to it now Lived in a brownstone, lived in the ghetto, I’ve lived all over this town This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no fooling around

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve noticed a dramatic increase in international sales. I used rarely get sales to other countries. Now for the past month or two, I’m consistently selling about 10% internationally. I’m still listing about the same stuff. Anyone else see this or is it just an anomaly in my life? — Michael Redman — Film reviews archive: http://us.imdb.com/ReviewsBy?Michael+Redman  We have had absolutely no change in our international sales over the last five years.

I don’t keep figures on domestic vs foreign sales, but I had been thinking that overseas sales had gone up some (I live in the US) Jason — Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. Euripides Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain – and most fools do. Dale Carnegie Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. Plato

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 We have had absolutely no change in our international sales over the last five years. We are now in a global economy and ship worldwide.  Since our international policy dictates that the world is flat and only has 48 states we are happy to take foreign orders. Rita

We do ship to New Mexico, though. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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 We have had absolutely no change in our international sales over the last five years. We are now in a global economy and ship worldwide.  Since our international policy dictates that the world is flat and only has 48 states we are happy to take foreign orders. Rita We do ship to New Mexico, though.

Come to think of it, that is the only state I have never made a sale to.  Do they even have electricity?  The two states, Alaska and Hawaii, are the ones I really shouldn’t have any sales to, but do, since the bulk of my items are bulky and extremely heavy, which add drastically to shipping fees. Rita

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  We have had absolutely no change in our international sales over the last five years. We are now in a global economy and ship worldwide.  Since our international policy dictates that the world is flat and only has 48 states we are happy to take foreign orders. Rita We do ship to New Mexico, though. Come to think of it, that is the only state I have never made a sale to.  Do they even have electricity?  The two states, Alaska and Hawaii, are the ones I really shouldn’t have any sales to, but do, since the bulk of my items are bulky and extremely heavy, which add drastically to shipping fees. Rita

New Mexico does provide a vital function in that it protects Arizona from Texas. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – New Mexico does provide a vital function in that it protects Arizona from Texas. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

The White House was just the first to fall, we will own it all one day & the capital of the good ole USA will be Amarillo! Jeez, when we left to you own devices you elected a inbred couple from Arkansas & almost let some Tennessee tree hugger in after that.  Fortunately out secret operative in Florida fixed that one Blissfully ignorant in Tejas

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We have had absolutely no change in our international sales over the last five years. We are now in a global economy and ship worldwide.  Since our international policy dictates that the world is flat and only has 48 states we are happy to take foreign orders. Rita We do ship to New Mexico, though. Come to think of it, that is the only state I have never made a sale to.  Do they even have electricity?

In most large cities and midsize towns, yes.  Out in the boonies, that’s iffy.  Electricity we got, water may become a maybe (damn golf courses in the desert–what were those developers thinking?). — "Be advised that although this is actually a live broadcast and is being sent out at this very moment, it is quite possible that it might arrive tomorrow, right now, or perhaps yesterday."

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I’ve noticed a dramatic increase in international sales. I used rarely get sales to other countries. Now for the past month or two, I’m consistently selling about 10% internationally. I’m still listing about the same stuff. Anyone else see this or is it just an anomaly in my life? — Michael Redman — Film reviews archive: http://us.imdb.com/ReviewsBy?Michael+Redman

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