Question:
Finally got to that new GOLF USA store that opened up just North of me. I was looking for a Odyssey putter and wanted to try a number of models – ended up buying the Rossie II. Although I currently own about six putters, this is my first mallet. I must admit I was influenced by comments on this list (and Watson’s win – I know his is a different model). While there, however, I looked at the TM bubble and was talking to the salesman about what make the bubble shaft different. It has been my understanding from comments in this group that the weight moved from the butt down the shaft has (among other things) the effect of increasing swingweight to about a D-7. As I recall TM tried to lower the weight to a more normal range but it just didn’t work, so they left it at D-7 or so. The salesman told me the club was much lighter than a normal club and the swingweight was also lower. I told him why my impression was different – about the larger butt and special grip (he didn’t know this – he even thought a normal butt was about .680 in.) but when he put it on the sw scale the crazy thing was a B-0 (that’s right a B-zero.) I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t seen it myself. I’m thinking of going back up there with one of my drivers (I have my own sw scale) to test their scale but haven’t done so as yet). It sure didn’t feel like a B-0 and I have played enough golf that I think I would be able to tell the difference between a D-0 and a B-0) Can anyone out there shed some light on this for me? Lee Erdman
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – While there, however, I looked at the TM bubble and was talking to the salesman about what make the bubble shaft different. It has been my understanding from comments in this group that the weight moved from the butt down the shaft has (among other things) the effect of increasing swingweight to about a D-7. As I recall TM tried to lower the weight to a more normal range but it just didn’t work, so they left it at D-7 or so. The salesman told me the club was much lighter than a normal club and the swingweight was also lower. I told him why my impression was different – about the larger butt and special grip (he didn’t know this – he even thought a normal butt was about .680 in.) but when he put it on the sw scale the crazy thing was a B-0 (that’s right a B-zero.) I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t seen it myself. I’m thinking of going back up there with one of my drivers (I have my own sw scale) to test their scale but haven’t done so as yet). It sure didn’t feel like a B-0 and I have played enough golf that I think I would be able to tell the difference between a D-0 and a B-0) Can anyone out there shed some light on this for me? Lee Erdman
I just threw mine on the scale to check it out, and it is definitely a D-7. The shop either has a faulty scale, or a faulty scale operator
BTW – The butt size is .800
Response:
Finally got to that new GOLF USA store … While there, however, I looked at the TM bubble and was talking to the salesman about what make the bubble shaft different. It has been my understanding from comments in this group that the weight moved from the butt down the shaft has (among other things) the effect of increasing swingweight to about a D-7. As I recall TM tried to lower the weight to a more normal range but it just didn’t work, so they left it at D-7 or so.
Your memory serves you well. In this newsgroup, a member of the Bubble’s design team said exactly that. The high swingweight comes mostly from a lightened butt, so when they lightened the head to compensate it felt very head-light. So they left it at a D-7 (I sorta’ remember D-6, but that’s too close to care), where it felt normal — not heavy — to most golfers. The salesman told me the club was much lighter than a normal club and the swingweight was also lower. I told him why my impression was different – about the larger butt and special grip (he didn’t know this – he even thought a normal butt was about .680 in.) but when he put it on the sw scale the crazy thing was a B-0 (that’s right a B-zero.)
Well, you’ve found a store not to shop. Consider: - The salesman obviously doesn’t know swingweight from total weight. The Bubble IS lower than average in total weight, but quite high in swingweight. - He thought a normal butt was .680" (it’s actually between .560" and .620", with most of the population .580" and .600"). BTW, the Bubble is .800". - Either he doesn’t know how to use a swingweight scale, or the store doesn’t know how to keep theirs in working order. B-0? Ridiculous. Can anyone out there shed some light on this for me?
Have you considered gross incompetence?
no, :-( Cheers! Dave
