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We meet again, Mr. Kook. Well I meet a lot of people Mr. Jeff Connelly , but I am sorry I do not recall making your acquantance previously
Oh yes you do, you big Kook.
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We meet again, Mr. Kook. Well I meet a lot of people Mr. Jeff Connelly , but I am sorry I do not recall making your acquantance previously Oh yes you do, you big Kook.
Are you one of my patients?
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses..
This is the kind of false impression one can get from watching golfers only on TV. True, Perry’s swing is not classic or picturesque — hence doesn’t photography well on the telly. But I guarantee that if you were out on the course actually following him around, you would get an entirely different impression. Kenny Perry actually has one of the most effortless and powerful swings on tour. Takes it back really slow (and yes sort of loopy and wierd) but then . . . wham!. The ball absolutely rockets off the clubface. KP is long. Very nice chap too. — "Philosophy: a route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing." — Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary. — Home Page: http://condor.depaul.edu/~dsimpson
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-snipped- Peter. How typical. Typical of which stereotype exactly
Who’s stereotyping? Is the term ‘pampered american courses’ an example? You somehow equate manicured conditions to ease of play, and fluidity of swing to skill. More like ability to cope with a wide range of conditions actually
What does his swing have to do with playing conditions? And, is a ‘british’ course a finer test of golf? A tougher test of golf? Can’t we just agree that it is just one of many types of venues that present challenges to the top players, without maligning U.S. courses? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -And, you may want to note who won those last 6 Opens: 2001 David Duval 2000 Tiger Woods 1999 Paul Lawrie (fluke) 1998 Mark O’Meara 1997 Justin Leonard 1996 Tom Lehman Your point being ? I don’t see Kenny Perrys name there , nor John Cook for that matter:-) Why do you take my comments about Kenny Perry as an attack on american golf per se.
It might have had something to do with the apparent tone of your initial post. :-) The guy is a one-trick pony
As are probably most PGA/EPGA types. Some excel on the West coast, others the East, some overseas, on various types of tracks. Only a select few seem to have mastered all conditions. It’s presumptuous to suggest that Perry, given his length, patience, and course management skills, would not play well at the Open. So what if you don’t like Perry’s swing. It has nothing to do whatsoever with the recent American domination of the Open. Correct
My ‘jab’ about U.S. domination was a friendly one at that. I’m not so sure the Royal Ancients were overjoyed by Tiger’s mopping up of St. Andrews. But neither were Hootie or the U.S. Open folks either when he destroyed their venues. :-) — Ron Blanchard http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=blanchardr I took the RSG 2002 Pledge to not encourage trolls "Make Golf Difficult Again." - Ian MacCallister
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We meet again, Mr. Kook. Well I meet a lot of people Mr. Jeff Connelly , but I am sorry I do not recall making your acquantance previously Oh yes you do, you big Kook. Are you one of my patients? Ah, "Dr. Kook" it is then. I like that better anyway.
more like Dr. Hook at the moment 
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. I agree — you definitely should invite him over and play him for a few thousand pounds per hole. That swing has got to break down when the weeds are high and the clubhead won’t know how to get to the ball going through UK air. (It’s a good thing the US has its own tour so pitiful golfers like him can make a living.) Zane
I haven’t seen the swing in question, but I wonder if ‘unorthodox’ swings are more likely to break down in bad conditions. I guess it is easier to make adjustments for high winds and bad lies when you are starting from an orthodox, straight-hitting swing, rather than if you normally hit high fades or low draws.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We meet again, Mr. Kook. Well I meet a lot of people Mr. Jeff Connelly , but I am sorry I do not recall making your acquantance previously Oh yes you do, you big Kook. Are you one of my patients?
Ah, "Dr. Kook" it is then. I like that better anyway.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. This is the kind of false impression one can get from watching golfers only on TV. True, Perry’s swing is not classic or picturesque — hence doesn’t photography well on the telly. But I guarantee that if you were out on the course actually following him around, you would get an entirely different impression. Kenny Perry actually has one of the most effortless and powerful swings on tour. Takes it back really slow (and yes sort of loopy and wierd) but then . . . wham!. The ball absolutely rockets off the clubface. KP is long. Very nice chap too.
Shuts the face and low draws everything doesn’t he?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen. So a super-smooth swinger with all the right mechanics like Steve Elkington finished 3 over, and Kenny Perry finished 8-under. I wonder what that tells us … hmmm? I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. Brits have been dissing American golfers ever since Walter Travis came over with his weird putter and won the British Amateur nearly a century ago. I suppose the fact that the current British Open champion is an American without the world’s most perfect swing escaped you? Cheers Colin Wilson American golfers with less than "perfect" swings have done quite well on Open links courses. Arnold Palmer’s name, for one, seems to ring a bell. Regardless of how Kenny Perry’s swing looks – it seems to do the job consistently, and that is what matters. He is a fine player and would, IMNSHO, do quite well if he played on a links course. Methinks Mr Kook is playing the jingoistic card here.
Not so much the jingoistic card as the wind somebody card. Crispin Roche
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. We meet again, Mr. Kook.
Well I meet a lot of people Mr. Jeff Connelly , but I am sorry I do not recall making your acquantance previously
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Regardless of how Kenny Perry’s swing looks – it seems to do the job consistently, and that is what matters. He is a fine player and would, IMNSHO, do quite well if he played on a links course. Methinks Mr Kook is playing the jingoistic card here.
You thinks completely wrong matey, although I would love to see our Kenny in the US Ryder Cup team.
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. Peter. How typical. You somehow equate manicured conditions to ease of play, and fluidity of swing to skill. Should I also suggest to you that *most* ‘british’ players would fall apart quickly on any U.S. Open layout? Would that be fair? Get a grip. It’s not the pureness or fluidness of the swing, it’s how the clubface contacts the ball. And what exactly does a fluid swing have to do with success on ‘british’ links courses? Are you suggesting that ‘british’ tracks are a more robust test of golf? Let’s examine a couple of *our* favorite ‘british’ golfer types and see how they fared in the last half dozen Opens: Colin ‘Jiggles’ Montgomery Lee ‘Jaws’ Westwood 2001 T13th T47th 2000 T26th T64th 1999 T15th T18th 1998 T79th T67th 1997 T24th T10th 1996 T105th T86th Only *one* top ten in six tries between the two of them. And, you may want to note who won those last 6 Opens: 2001 David Duval 2000 Tiger Woods 1999 Paul Lawrie (fluke) 1998 Mark O’Meara 1997 Justin Leonard 1996 Tom Lehman That would be five wins in six tries. Not to mention how many Americans finished in the top ten. So what if you don’t like Perry’s swing. It has nothing to do whatsoever with the recent American domination of the Open. No offense to our RSG friends across the pond. — Ron Blanchard http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=blanchardr I took the RSG 2002 Pledge to not encourage trolls "Make Golf Difficult Again." - Ian MacCallister — Ron Blanchard http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=blanchardr I took the RSG 2002 Pledge to not encourage trolls "Make Golf Difficult Again." - Ian MacCallister
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Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen. So a super-smooth swinger with all the right mechanics like Steve Elkington finished 3 over, and Kenny Perry finished 8-under. I wonder what that tells us … hmmm?
It tells us Elkington has a super smooth swing that he can employ to good efffect all around the world and Perry has in inelegant and technicaly weak style that would not equip him to do the same. Lets see this guy in Britain. I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. Brits have been dissing American golfers ever since Walter Travis came over with his weird putter and won the British Amateur nearly a century ago.
LOL I forgot about that one . I suppose the fact that the current British Open champion is an American without the world’s most perfect swing escaped you?
Duval is the Open Champion not the British Open champion actually old bean. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. Peter. How typical. You somehow equate manicured conditions to ease of play, and fluidity of swing to skill. Should I also suggest to you that *most* ‘british’ players would fall apart quickly on any U.S. Open layout? Would that be fair? Get a grip. It’s not the pureness or fluidness of the swing, it’s how the clubface contacts the ball. And what exactly does a fluid swing have to do with success on ‘british’ links courses? Are you suggesting that ‘british’ tracks are a more robust test of golf? Let’s examine a couple of *our* favorite ‘british’ golfer types and see how they fared in the last half dozen Opens: Colin ‘Jiggles’ Montgomery Lee ‘Jaws’ Westwood 2001 T13th T47th 2000 T26th T64th 1999 T15th T18th 1998 T79th T67th 1997 T24th T10th 1996 T105th T86th Only *one* top ten in six tries between the two of them. And, you may want to note who won those last 6 Opens: 2001 David Duval 2000 Tiger Woods 1999 Paul Lawrie (fluke) 1998 Mark O’Meara 1997 Justin Leonard 1996 Tom Lehman
That should be: Colin ‘Jiggles’ Montgomery 2001 – T13th 2000 – T26th 1999 – T15th 1998 – T79th 1997 – T24th 1996 – T105th Lee ‘Jaws’ Westwood 2001 – T47th 2000 – T64th 1999 – T18th 1998 – T67th 1997 – T10th 1996 – T86th For some reason Netscape Mail fouled up the formatting… oh, well. :- That would be five wins in six tries. Not to mention how many Americans finished in the top ten. So what if you don’t like Perry’s swing. It has nothing to do whatsoever with the recent American domination of the Open. No offense to our RSG friends across the pond. — Ron Blanchard http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=blanchardr I took the RSG 2002 Pledge to not encourage trolls "Make Golf Difficult Again." - Ian MacCallister
Ron
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. Peter. How typical.
Typical of which stereotype exactly You somehow equate manicured conditions to ease of play, and fluidity of swing to skill.
More like ability to cope with a wide range of conditions actually And, you may want to note who won those last 6 Opens: 2001 David Duval 2000 Tiger Woods 1999 Paul Lawrie (fluke) 1998 Mark O’Meara 1997 Justin Leonard 1996 Tom Lehman
Your point being ? I don’t see Kenny Perrys name there , nor John Cook for that matter:-) Why do you take my comments about Kenny Perry as an attack on american golf per se. The guy is a one-trick pony So what if you don’t like Perry’s swing. It has nothing to do whatsoever with the recent American domination of the Open.
Correct
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How about Kenny Perry kicking some euro butt over at Muirfield? I would love for kook to have to endure that.
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses..
We meet again, Mr. Kook.
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It tells us Elkington has a super smooth swing that he can employ to good efffect all around the world and Perry has in inelegant and technicaly weak style that would not equip him to do the same. Lets see this guy in Britain.
It tells me that it’s not how the swing looks, it’s how effective it is mechanically that counts. You can look a bit inelegant and still score well. Take Peter Lonard for example. No one would call his swing "text-book". Yet he’s currently about 40th on the USPGA Tour Money List in his rookie year. And he’s won outside the USA in totally different conditions. Duval is the Open Champion not the British Open champion actually old bean.
Regardless of your pedantics about the name, he still won with a very effective but less than perfect swing. They didn’t call him "Duval the Shovel" for nothing. Purists still comment on his "look-up" impact position. You may also like to know that Kenny Perry’s "Homer Simpson" swing currently has him 10th on the USPGA Tour for Driving Distance (291 yards). Not bad for someone who’s 41 years old. So based on these stats, Perry is quite a bit longer than both Peter Lonard and Steve Elkington. He is also quite a bit better in driving accuracy than both. Come to think of it, he might have *just* the game for your Open courses. Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses.. You really are clueless. It ain’t how…it’s how many.
Well here is a clue – I am telling you that this, Homer Simpson turns pro golfer, clone would have difficulty remembering ‘how many’ round a British links .
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses..
He does have the worst "form" of any pro golfer I have seen. Even his putting stance is lousy…
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Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen.
So a super-smooth swinger with all the right mechanics like Steve Elkington finished 3 over, and Kenny Perry finished 8-under. I wonder what that tells us … hmmm? I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses..
Brits have been dissing American golfers ever since Walter Travis came over with his weird putter and won the British Amateur nearly a century ago. I suppose the fact that the current British Open champion is an American without the world’s most perfect swing escaped you? Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses..
I agree — you definitely should invite him over and play him for a few thousand pounds per hole. That swing has got to break down when the weeds are high and the clubhead won’t know how to get to the ball going through UK air. (It’s a good thing the US has its own tour so pitiful golfers like him can make a living.) Zane
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses..
You really are clueless. It ain’t how…it’s how many. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi,TX Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://www.rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=claryd
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Through the delights of Sky sports have seen this guy for the first time, playing in Fort Worth (The windy city – I always thought that was chicago). Is this guy for real he looks and swings like Homer Simpson. He has the worst looking swing I have seen . I would love to see this guy come to Britain and play in the Open – there is no way this guy would survive or even break 100 away from pampered american courses..
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Wins #3 on the season. But no Tiger in the field, so it doesn’t count.
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Wins #3 on the season. But no Tiger in the field, so it doesn’t count.
Are they taking back his prize money?
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I’m pretty much thinking that it’s an official win no matter which way it goes. Chris S.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wins #3 on the season. But no Tiger in the field, so it doesn’t count. Are they taking back his prize money?
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Shows how much you know about golf. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wins #3 on the season. But no Tiger in the field, so it doesn’t count.