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Colin, does your course have any call up greens, especially on par 3’s. My course has recently removed call ups on it’s par 3’s for insurance reasons. Is this also happening down there?

Personally, I think callups are stupid… besides being potentially dangerous. I don’t know of any clubs in my imediate area that require callups on par 3s or otherwise. I’ glad of that. dsc

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Here’s a tall order: trying to get people on the driving range to yell "fore" when their balls are heading over the fence and into a fairway.   I once had, not one, but two balls whiz within a few feet of me on one hole.   Perhaps these driving ranges should post signs reminding people to yell "fore" if necessary.

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Colin, does your course have any call up greens, especially on par 3’s.  My course has recently removed call ups on it’s par 3’s for insurance reasons. Is this also happening down there?

Haven’t heard anything. It wouldn’t surprise me though. We haven’t got any par-3s long enough. The longest is 157 metres (172 yards). Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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spewed this into my newsreader.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… spewed this into my newsreader.. Colin, does your course have any call up greens, especially on par 3’s.  My course has recently removed call ups on it’s par 3’s for insurance reasons. Is this also happening down there? Dean Gough call ups? That mean when you and your group arrive at the green of a par 3, you let the group on the tee hit their tee shots to the green before you putt out.

Ah. I suppose this is meant to induce faster play.. but I can see where an insurance company would have problems with it.  On the other hand, if the tee box for the next hole is relatively close to the green, the argument could be made that at least by exercising a call up, the golfers in the target area know something’s on its way and are looking for it.  They might not be looking for an errant shot to the same green that could impact in the next tee box. — Bryan S. Slick, bryan at m1a1hokie dot net "To those who preserve it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know." —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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spewed this into my newsreader.. Colin, does your course have any call up greens, especially on par 3’s.  My course has recently removed call ups on it’s par 3’s for insurance reasons. Is this also happening down there? Dean Gough call ups?

I *guess* it’s what some of the courses here do on par 3s. To relieve the normal congestion at par 3s, you tee off then walk to your ball / the green (if you’re lucky enough to be on it .) Before putting / chipping you "call up" the next group waiting on the tee. They tee off and start walking to their balls, while you’re chipping / putting and leaving the green. Process is repeated (before the group behind you chips / putts, they call up the group behind them, etc.) It *does* help the par 3 congestion, as long as everyone does it. The hazard is that you’ll most likely have people hitting into you so you’ve gotta keep your eye out ! Peasant

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Our club stopped it on the 195m par 3, apparently because a lot of the older members couldn’t see the ball coming. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Colin, does your course have any call up greens, especially on par 3’s. My course has recently removed call ups on it’s par 3’s for insurance reasons. Is this also happening down there? Dean Gough

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Not only should you yell "four" you should yell it at any time you think your ball * might * be headed where someone else is. Further you cannot be real shy about yelling " four " You have to blast it out and really  YELL or else no one will hear it 200 yards away.  I have seen  more then a few almost fights break out because someone didn’t really * yell * four and the person who almost got hit didn’t hear it and insisted that "four" was not yelled.  in one sense he was right "four " was not yelled, it was loudly announced. So let’s all have some "four" yelling practice.  Have you friend stand at the outer limit of your driving distance (in RSG that would be 550 yards) and see how loud you have to yell for himher to hear it. — The DeMented Golfer "Golf spelled backwards is flog   Rick DeMent "Time to pull a quick Hank Snow." RSG roll call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/dementr.htm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That is a good reminder, I have noticed something that might be of interest.  I have seen golfers (myself included at times)  hit a ball way offline into an area where it is unkown whether or not a people are there.  I would like to remind people that ‘fore’ should be yelled when there is even a remote possibility that someone could be in the blind area. I have also been behind a group playing so slow I have wanted to hit up on them.  But when you really think about the possible consequences it is not worth it. RSG Role Call  http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/mclaughlins.htm

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By Golly, Bryan, it sure is a good thing you don’t get hostile! Remind me, if it ever comes up, to be at least two groups in front of or, preferably, well behind you.  On second thought, never mind.  I’ll just stay away from where you are.  Yep, that’ll work.  Seeya.  Not.

Was that a bit of on-line analysis, peter?? — David RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm

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That mean when you and your group arrive at the green of a par 3, you let the group on the tee hit their tee shots to the green before you putt out. says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – spewed this into my newsreader.. Colin, does your course have any call up greens, especially on par 3’s.  My course has recently removed call ups on it’s par 3’s for insurance reasons. Is this also happening down there? Dean Gough call ups? — Bryan S. Slick, bryan at m1a1hokie dot net "To those who preserve it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know." —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

– Kenny Stultz RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm

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Colin, does your course have any call up greens, especially on par 3’s.  My course has recently removed call ups on it’s par 3’s for insurance reasons. Is this also happening down there? Dean Gough

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spewed this into my newsreader.. Colin, does your course have any call up greens, especially on par 3’s.  My course has recently removed call ups on it’s par 3’s for insurance reasons. Is this also happening down there? Dean Gough

call ups? — Bryan S. Slick, bryan at m1a1hokie dot net "To those who preserve it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know." —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Tell you what Sparky, pull a stunt like that around me and you will get a 9 iron upside your head.  You are obviously too immature to play golf. Stick to video games. Joe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How much you wanna bet this woman was playing so slow that he wanted to hit her with the golf ball?  At my course I sometimes aim for that hackers that are sittin 300 yards out saying, "I can get on from here!"  I really hate that! You might now..A local court ordered a golfer to pay $7500 in damages to a woman that he hit in the head with his golf ball. The reason he had to pay? The court said he failed to yell a warning. The report said a ball travels at speeds in excess of 156 MPH and is considered a projectile. I’ll bet he yells fore the next time. The woman complained of dizziness and nerve damage as a result of the hit.

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By Golly, Bryan, it sure is a good thing you don’t get hostile! Remind me, if it ever comes up, to be at least two groups in front of or, preferably, well behind you.  On second thought, never mind.  I’ll just stay away from where you are.  Yep, that’ll work.  Seeya.  Not. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – spewed this into my newsreader.. I don’t aim at the hackers, but when the ball accidently heads their way, I damn sure yell "fore".  Anyone that’s not considerate enough to do that has no business on the course. Hate it or not, slow play was not the issue. The question is, Is a knot in the head at 156 MPH worth $7500 out of your own pocket. The news story said he was not insured against something like that. When you "aim for the hackers" do you say fore if you get close? I could not possibly agree more with the reply (top-posted) to the original message.  I have been hit (once) and hit someone else (twice), and neither is a fun time.  The time that I was hit, no "FORE!" was forthcoming.  Oddly enough, I heard the ball just before it hit me (it was MOVING!) and turned my back to it, only to get nailed in the small of my back by what it turned out was a 2-iron shot from approximately 200 yards away.  I couldn’t finish my round, and had a nasty bruise for about a week.  The guy felt bad that I couldn’t finish, hadn’t seen me in the path of his ball, and in fact gave me his business card in case I had to go to the doc, and gave me $100, besides.  (Good guy.) The times that I’ve hit someone, it was NOT intentional, though only once did I yell ‘FORE!!’.  The first time, I was 17 years old, playing on Mount Pleasant Golf Course in Maryland, and one of the resentful old guys I was playing with stepped in front of my pitch, which I shanked right into his leg.  He wasn’t there when I surveyed my shot, and shouldn’t have stepped in front of me.  By the time I looked up, the ball had already hit him.. there was no time to yell anything at all.. though the rotten bastard did plenty of yelling afterward, as if it were MY fault that he violated common courtesy of the course and stepped in front of my shot.  I suppose it didn’t help that some damn kid that he didn’t want to play with in the first place was showing him up, scorewise.  The second time, I was playing on Virginia Tech’s course, and sliced an approach shot near the tee box for the next hole.  (Anyone who’s played Virginia Tech can tell you that the holes are CLOSE to each other, green- to-tee-wise.)  I screamed ‘FORE!’ as loud as I could, as I hit it pretty damned hard, and the guy moved… right into the path of the ball.  Oops. To my horror, the ball slammed him in the head, and he went down like a sack of potatoes.  I dropped my club and tore Hell down the fairway to see what the Hell I’d just done, and much to my relief, he was standing by the time I got there… though with a rather large knot on his head. He was a professor at Tech, and wanted no part of me having to worry about him after the round.. he’d heard the ‘FORE!’, told me I’d done all I could do to avoid hurting him, etc.  He finished his round.  By the way, he gave me an assist.. my ball?  It zinged off his head, about 50 feet in the air and came to rest, no lie, 3 feet from the cup.  *grin* Lastly, as regards hitting into someone intentionally.  I will admit that I have done this several times.  After seeing someone nearly killed by a ball, I will never do it again with a low iron, that is for certain.. but a well-placed 9-iron doesn’t hurt.  Once, on hole 12 (I think) of VT’s course, the grunge kids were crossing the course to avoid walking around it (as always).. I waved to them to hurry up.. one of them flipped me off and screamed ‘F*CK OFF.’  Well, well, well.. out came the 1-iron, a ball, and a tee.  Luckily, my aim was on, and those four jerks got the scare of their lives as a ball ROCKETED right through the middle of them without touching any of them.  They took off running to get the Hell off of the course.  Other than that, the only times I have ever hit a ball in the direction of someone else intentionally is when I’ve been hit into by someone just being inconsiderate, or a complete moron about how far they can hit the ball.  What I generally do is take the ball, grab my 7-iron, scream FORE! before I even hit it, and hit it right back where it came from.  They generally get the idea to be more careful. — Bryan S. Slick, bryan at m1a1hokie dot net "To those who preserve it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know." —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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What really makes me wonder are  folks who turn around and look at the person yelling fore. I see it all the time (from my hunched over, hands over my head position). And people who dont react at all. DUH! tom

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spewed this into my newsreader.. I don’t aim at the hackers, but when the ball accidently heads their way, I damn sure yell "fore".  Anyone that’s not considerate enough to do that has no business on the course. Hate it or not, slow play was not the issue. The question is, Is a knot in the head at 156 MPH worth $7500 out of your own pocket. The news story said he was not insured against something like that. When you "aim for the hackers" do you say fore if you get close?

I could not possibly agree more with the reply (top-posted) to the original message.  I have been hit (once) and hit someone else (twice), and neither is a fun time.  The time that I was hit, no "FORE!" was forthcoming.  Oddly enough, I heard the ball just before it hit me (it was MOVING!) and turned my back to it, only to get nailed in the small of my back by what it turned out was a 2-iron shot from approximately 200 yards away.  I couldn’t finish my round, and had a nasty bruise for about a week.  The guy felt bad that I couldn’t finish, hadn’t seen me in the path of his ball, and in fact gave me his business card in case I had to go to the doc, and gave me $100, besides.  (Good guy.) The times that I’ve hit someone, it was NOT intentional, though only once did I yell ‘FORE!!’.  The first time, I was 17 years old, playing on Mount Pleasant Golf Course in Maryland, and one of the resentful old guys I was playing with stepped in front of my pitch, which I shanked right into his leg.  He wasn’t there when I surveyed my shot, and shouldn’t have stepped in front of me.  By the time I looked up, the ball had already hit him.. there was no time to yell anything at all.. though the rotten bastard did plenty of yelling afterward, as if it were MY fault that he violated common courtesy of the course and stepped in front of my shot.  I suppose it didn’t help that some damn kid that he didn’t want to play with in the first place was showing him up, scorewise.  The second time, I was playing on Virginia Tech’s course, and sliced an approach shot near the tee box for the next hole.  (Anyone who’s played Virginia Tech can tell you that the holes are CLOSE to each other, green- to-tee-wise.)  I screamed ‘FORE!’ as loud as I could, as I hit it pretty damned hard, and the guy moved… right into the path of the ball.  Oops.   To my horror, the ball slammed him in the head, and he went down like a sack of potatoes.  I dropped my club and tore Hell down the fairway to see what the Hell I’d just done, and much to my relief, he was standing by the time I got there… though with a rather large knot on his head.   He was a professor at Tech, and wanted no part of me having to worry about him after the round.. he’d heard the ‘FORE!’, told me I’d done all I could do to avoid hurting him, etc.  He finished his round.  By the way, he gave me an assist.. my ball?  It zinged off his head, about 50 feet in the air and came to rest, no lie, 3 feet from the cup.  *grin* Lastly, as regards hitting into someone intentionally.  I will admit that I have done this several times.  After seeing someone nearly killed by a ball, I will never do it again with a low iron, that is for certain.. but a well-placed 9-iron doesn’t hurt.  Once, on hole 12 (I think) of VT’s course, the grunge kids were crossing the course to avoid walking around it (as always).. I waved to them to hurry up.. one of them flipped me off and screamed ‘F*CK OFF.’  Well, well, well.. out came the 1-iron, a ball, and a tee.  Luckily, my aim was on, and those four jerks got the scare of their lives as a ball ROCKETED right through the middle of them without touching any of them.  They took off running to get the Hell off of the course.  Other than that, the only times I have ever hit a ball in the direction of someone else intentionally is when I’ve been hit into by someone just being inconsiderate, or a complete moron about how far they can hit the ball.  What I generally do is take the ball, grab my 7-iron, scream FORE! before I even hit it, and hit it right back where it came from.  They generally get the idea to be more careful. — Bryan S. Slick, bryan at m1a1hokie dot net "To those who preserve it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know." —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Hate it or not, slow play was not the issue. The question is, Is a knot in the head at 156 MPH worth $7500 out of your own pocket. The news story said he was not insured against something like that. When you "aim for the hackers" do you say fore if you get close?

And I am sure that "they were playing slow" would not be enthusiastically received by a trial judge as a mitigating circumstance, in much the same way as "they were driving slow" is not a defence against purposely running someone off the road into a tree. We just had a guy sentenced to ten years jail here for attempted murder … he shot at someone in a road rage incident. Sometimes it appears human temper knows no bounds, and they ending up paying in years for it. Some drivers need anger management training … both on and off the golf course. As for insurance, all Australian club golfers have a liability insurance component as part of their membership fees.   Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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I don’t aim at the hackers, but when the ball accidently heads their way, I damn sure yell "fore".  Anyone that’s not considerate enough to do that has no business on the course. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hate it or not, slow play was not the issue. The question is, Is a knot in the head at 156 MPH worth $7500 out of your own pocket. The news story said he was not insured against something like that. When you "aim for the hackers" do you say fore if you get close? How much you wanna bet this woman was playing so slow that he wanted to hit her with the golf ball?  At my course I sometimes aim for that hackers that are sittin 300 yards out saying, "I can get on from here!"  I really hate that! You might now..A local court ordered a golfer to pay $7500 in damages to a woman that he hit in the head with his golf ball. The reason he had to pay? The court said he failed to yell a warning. The report said a ball travels at speeds in excess of 156 MPH and is considered a projectile. I’ll bet he yells fore the next time. The woman complained of dizziness and nerve damage as a result of the hit.

– Kenny Stultz RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm

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That is a good reminder, I have noticed something that might be of interest.  I have seen golfers (myself included at times)  hit a ball way offline into an area where it is unkown whether or not a people are there.  I would like to remind people that ‘fore’ should be yelled when there is even a remote possibility that someone could be in the blind area.   I have also been behind a group playing so slow I have wanted to hit up on them.  But when you really think about the possible consequences it is not worth it.   RSG Role Call  http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/mclaughlins.htm

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You might now..A local court ordered a golfer to pay $7500 in damages to a woman that he hit in the head with his golf ball. The reason he had to pay? The court said he failed to yell a warning. The report said a ball travels at speeds in excess of 156 MPH and is considered a projectile. I’ll bet he yells fore the next time. The woman complained of dizziness and nerve damage as a result of the hit.

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How much you wanna bet this woman was playing so slow that he wanted to hit her with the golf ball?  At my course I sometimes aim for that hackers that are sittin 300 yards out saying, "I can get on from here!"  I really hate that!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You might now..A local court ordered a golfer to pay $7500 in damages to a woman that he hit in the head with his golf ball. The reason he had to pay? The court said he failed to yell a warning. The report said a ball travels at speeds in excess of 156 MPH and is considered a projectile. I’ll bet he yells fore the next time. The woman complained of dizziness and nerve damage as a result of the hit.

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Hate it or not, slow play was not the issue. The question is, Is a knot in the head at 156 MPH worth $7500 out of your own pocket. The news story said he was not insured against something like that. When you "aim for the hackers" do you say fore if you get close?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How much you wanna bet this woman was playing so slow that he wanted to hit her with the golf ball?  At my course I sometimes aim for that hackers that are sittin 300 yards out saying, "I can get on from here!"  I really hate that! You might now..A local court ordered a golfer to pay $7500 in damages to a woman that he hit in the head with his golf ball. The reason he had to pay? The court said he failed to yell a warning. The report said a ball travels at speeds in excess of 156 MPH and is considered a projectile. I’ll bet he yells fore the next time. The woman complained of dizziness and nerve damage as a result of the hit.

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