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I can give you this information from 1904 to 1986, do you want it? (will take a while to type it out, thats all) BTW you should be able to get this info from any good Golf Encyclopedia or Almanac and not necessarily an Australian one. I have a list of the winners in the "Illustrated Encyclopedia of World Golf" which has the results for 16 ‘major’ worldwide events. I am trying to get my hands on the winners scores for each round since the Australian Open began. Can anyone help me as where I might find them. Thanks, Todd.

Regards,  Mark Friends:  please just respond to the newsgroup

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I am trying to get my hands on the winners scores for each round since the Australian Open began. Can anyone help me as where I might find them. Thanks, Todd.

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Hi,  All scores, from 1904 when the Open was won by M Scott with 315, are contained in "The Australian Golfer’s Handbook", the official handbook of the Australian Golf Union.  They may well be on their webb site – www.agu.org.au. Cheers, Bob Howe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am trying to get my hands on the winners scores for each round since the Australian Open began. Can anyone help me as where I might find them. Thanks, Todd.

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The 1999 Australian Open returns to Royal Sydney, from November 25-28.

if anyones interested, livescoring; http://www.agu.org.au/hao99/livescores.sps regards            Mark Blake Fairway: [faer-wai] "An unfamiliar tract of mown grass running directly from tee to the green. Your ball can usually be found immediately to the left or right of it." RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/blakem.htm

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The 1999 Australian Open returns to Royal Sydney, from November 25-28. The early odds are apparently:  8 Montgomerie 12 Appleby 14 Norman, Parry 16 Moseley, Campbell, Leaney 20 Faldo, Allenby, Pampling, O’Malley 25 Chalmers, Goggin, Allan, Hughes 33 Ogilvy, Senior, Lonard 40 Van de Velde 50 Spence, Davis 66 Green Campbell and Ogilvy might shorten a little after their performance in the Johnnie Walker Classic. Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call – http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm Visit one of Australia’s best club web sites: Trentham Golf Club – http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/trentham

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The 1999 Australian Open returns to Royal Sydney, from November 25-28. The early odds are apparently:  8 Montgomerie 12 Appleby 14 Norman, Parry 16 Moseley, Campbell, Leaney 20 Faldo, Allenby, Pampling, O’Malley 25 Chalmers, Goggin, Allan, Hughes 33 Ogilvy, Senior, Lonard 40 Van de Velde 50 Spence, Davis 66 Green Campbell and Ogilvy might shorten a little after their performance in the Johnnie Walker Classic. Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call – http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm Visit one of Australia’s best club web sites: Trentham Golf Club – http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/trentham

Coly-Baby I love a bet on the golf and will be throwing a few dollars Sportsbet’s way this summer. I think there are wins this summer for both Ogilvy and Kenny Druce. Old pete Senior appears to be getting into form but hasn’t won for a while. If you put a dollar on Druce in every tournament you will finish in front. Cheers

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Starts on November 21. Looks like the field is well up in quality this year. USPGA Tour players ALLAN, Steve (Vic) ALLENBY, Robert (Vic) APPLEBY, Stuart (Vic) BADDELEY, Aaron (Vic) BEEM, Rich (USA) CHALMERS, Greg (WA) COLES, Gavin (NSW) GOGGIN Mathew (Tas) GOW, Paul (NSW) HOWELL III, Charles (USA) LONARD, Peter (NSW) LONG, Michael (NZ) OGILVY, Geoff (Vic) PAMPLING, Rod (Qld) PARRY, Craig (WA) PERKS, Craig (NZ) PERRY, Kenny (USA) SENDEN, John (Qld) TATAURANGI, Phil (NZ) European Tour players DOUGHERTY, Nick (Eng) FOWLER, Peter (NSW) GARDINER, Scott (NSW) GREEN, Richard (Vic) JOHNSON, Richard (Swe) LEANEY, Stephen (WA) MOSELEY, Jarrod (WA) NILSSON, Jens (Swe) NORGREN, Marcus (Swe) O’HERN, Nick (WA) O’MALLEY, Peter (NSW) RUMFORD, Brett (WA) SCOTT, Adam (Qld) TURNER, Greg (NZ) Buy.com/Nationwide Tour players ALKER, Steven (NZ) GREEN, Nathan (NSW) PAINTER, Anthony (NSW) Japanese Tour players CAROLAN, Tony (Qld) JONES, Brendan (NSW) LAYCOCK, Scott (Vic) And also: BUCKLE, Andrew (Qld) FRASER, Adam (Vic) FRASER, Marcus (Vic) GRADY, Wayne (Qld) LEE, Richard (NZ) McLEAN, James (Vic) PADDISON, Gareth (NZ) SENIOR, Peter (Qld) STOLZ, Andre (NSW) Plus there’ll be a few interesting names trying through final qualifying, like: DRUCE, Kenny (NSW) McWHINNEY, Peter (Qld) PARSONS Lucas (NSW) PODLICH, David (Qld) SCAHILL, Stephen (NZ) SPENCE, Craig (Vic) — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Starts on November 21. Looks like the field is well up in quality this year. USPGA Tour players ALLAN, Steve (Vic) ALLENBY, Robert (Vic) APPLEBY, Stuart (Vic) BADDELEY, Aaron (Vic) BEEM, Rich (USA) CHALMERS, Greg (WA) COLES, Gavin (NSW) GOGGIN Mathew (Tas) GOW, Paul (NSW) HOWELL III, Charles (USA) LONARD, Peter (NSW) LONG, Michael (NZ) OGILVY, Geoff (Vic) PAMPLING, Rod (Qld) PARRY, Craig (WA) PERKS, Craig (NZ) PERRY, Kenny (USA) SENDEN, John (Qld) TATAURANGI, Phil (NZ) European Tour players DOUGHERTY, Nick (Eng) FOWLER, Peter (NSW) GARDINER, Scott (NSW) GREEN, Richard (Vic) JOHNSON, Richard (Swe) LEANEY, Stephen (WA) MOSELEY, Jarrod (WA) NILSSON, Jens (Swe) NORGREN, Marcus (Swe) O’HERN, Nick (WA) O’MALLEY, Peter (NSW) RUMFORD, Brett (WA) SCOTT, Adam (Qld) TURNER, Greg (NZ) Buy.com/Nationwide Tour players ALKER, Steven (NZ) GREEN, Nathan (NSW) PAINTER, Anthony (NSW) Japanese Tour players CAROLAN, Tony (Qld) JONES, Brendan (NSW) LAYCOCK, Scott (Vic) And also: BUCKLE, Andrew (Qld) FRASER, Adam (Vic) FRASER, Marcus (Vic) GRADY, Wayne (Qld) LEE, Richard (NZ) McLEAN, James (Vic) PADDISON, Gareth (NZ) SENIOR, Peter (Qld) STOLZ, Andre (NSW) Plus there’ll be a few interesting names trying through final qualifying, like: DRUCE, Kenny (NSW) McWHINNEY, Peter (Qld) PARSONS Lucas (NSW) PODLICH, David (Qld) SCAHILL, Stephen (NZ) SPENCE, Craig (Vic)

Colin, to be perfectly honest, I think it looks a rather weak field for such a prestigious national Open. Just 1 top 20 player, no top Europeans and only one top US player Charles Howell. I know it’s a difficult time of the year to get the top players there but don’t kid yourself – it’s a very poor field in world terms.

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Starts on November 21. Looks like the field is well up in quality this year.

Bugger!  John Daly is missing.  Read somewhere he was coming.  Really was hoping to see him… Saw Marcus Fraser in Golf Australia last week.  Looked darn good… — Cheers Nuno Souto

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Colin, to be perfectly honest, I think it looks a rather weak field for such a prestigious national Open. Just 1 top 20 player, no top Europeans and only one top US player Charles Howell.

"Weak" is relative. If you want to go by world rankings alone, granted it’s nothing like a major field, or even a run-of-the-mill USPGA Tour event. But do you think if, say, a couple of "Top 10" players were in this field they’d find it "easy" to win? The world rankings don’t necessarily determine the quality of the golf. Anyone in the World Top 200 is an outstanding golfer. And even Adam Groom, an Australian "unknown" in the field, finished higher than Tiger Woods in the NZ Open last year … and he was an *amateur* at the time. However, there are 7 players in the world Top 50 (Allenby 18, Howell 24, Beem 25, Perry 28 Appleby 36, Parry 41, Scott 47) and 12 in the world Top 100 (Lonard 57, Leaney 60, O’Malley 74, Tataurangi 80 and Perks 86). The field also contains a current major champion (Beem), the current holder of the USPGA Player’s Championship (Perks), the winner of a 2002 WGC event (Parry), a dual 2002 European Tour event winner (Scott), and several previous USPGA Tour winners (Allenby, Appleby, Howell, Tataurangi, Perry). BTW, how come you include Howell (24th in the world rankings) in the category of "Top US player", but don’t include Beem (25th) and Perry (28th)? So "weak" or not, I’ll gladly pay my A$30 (US$15) entry fee to see that field for a day. I know it’s a difficult time of the year to get the top players there but don’t kid yourself – it’s a very poor field in world terms.

I wouldn’t contest your argument about relative field strength compared to other Tours, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call it "very poor", for the reasons outlined above. In Australian Open terms it’s actually rather good. The AO only offers A$1,500,000 (about US$800,000) *total* prize money. I bet many organisers would kill to get a field like this for that little money (any appearance fees to the three US players notwithstanding). And I know I’d rather watch this whole field than, say, Tiger as the one stand-out player for a A$2 million appearance fee. The AO organisers have got heaps of change relative to that. — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Colin, to be perfectly honest, I think it looks a rather weak field for such a prestigious national Open. Just 1 top 20 player, no top Europeans and only one top US player Charles Howell. "Weak" is relative. If you want to go by world rankings alone, granted it’s nothing like a major field, or even a run-of-the-mill USPGA Tour event. But do you think if, say, a couple of "Top 10" players were in this field they’d find it "easy" to win? The world rankings don’t necessarily determine the quality of the golf. Anyone in the World Top 200 is an outstanding golfer. And even Adam Groom, an Australian "unknown" in the field, finished higher than Tiger Woods in the NZ Open last year … and he was an *amateur* at the time. However, there are 7 players in the world Top 50 (Allenby 18, Howell 24, Beem 25, Perry 28 Appleby 36, Parry 41, Scott 47) and 12 in the world Top 100 (Lonard 57, Leaney 60, O’Malley 74, Tataurangi 80 and Perks 86). The field also contains a current major champion (Beem), the current holder of the USPGA Player’s Championship (Perks), the winner of a 2002 WGC event (Parry), a dual 2002 European Tour event winner (Scott), and several previous USPGA Tour winners (Allenby, Appleby, Howell, Tataurangi, Perry). BTW, how come you include Howell (24th in the world rankings) in the category of "Top US player", but don’t include Beem (25th) and Perry (28th)? So "weak" or not, I’ll gladly pay my A$30 (US$15) entry fee to see that field for a day. I know it’s a difficult time of the year to get the top players there but don’t kid yourself – it’s a very poor field in world terms. I wouldn’t contest your argument about relative field strength compared to other Tours, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call it "very poor", for the reasons outlined above. In Australian Open terms it’s actually rather good. The AO only offers A$1,500,000 (about US$800,000) *total* prize money. I bet many organisers would kill to get a field like this for that little money (any appearance fees to the three US players notwithstanding). And I know I’d rather watch this whole field than, say, Tiger as the one stand-out player for a A$2 million appearance fee. The AO organisers have got heaps of change relative to that.

Great reply Colin. My post was actually a little tongue in cheek. I’ve been discussing the merits of the world rankings in relation to tournament fields elsewhere. I happen to agree with everything you wrote. By the way, I didn’t notice Rich Beem in the field and I wouldn’t class Kenny Perry as a top US players despite his 28 ranking.

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I’ve been discussing the merits of the world rankings in relation to tournament fields elsewhere.

World rankings exist solely for the purposes of determining entry to certain competitions, like majors and WGC events. They don’t necessarily guarantee the highest quality play simply by having the highest-ranked players present. And if you take out Tiger Woods, who seems to stand out on his own, the difference in *scoring average* between players in the Top 10 and the player who is 200th is only a stroke or two. If the 200th-ranked player has a good day, and the 10th-ranked player has a slightly off day, the 200th-ranked player will win, relatively easily. There’s also the question of environment. If you sent some Top 10 players down here, like Els, Goosen and Singh, they’d do well, because of familiarity. Els and Goosen are recent event winners in Australia, Goosen rather spectacularly at Lake Karrinyup. But send us Mickelson, Toms and Love, and I’d wager on the lesser-ranked locals like Allenby, Parry, Appleby and Lonard, simply because of their wide experience in the conditions. I’ll be waiting with bated breath to see how Howell, Beem and Perry adapt. At least Howell has had prior experience in Australia, albeit rather mediocre. Also, it’s a dry drought year here, with a *lot* of wind to date, so they can expect difficult playing conditions and hard, fast greens. Some days are already reaching mid-30C (95F) and it’s not even summer yet. BTW, I think the way Lonard has been playing he might be a good bet. Victoria is a course for precise shotmaking, especially iron play, and that’s what Lonard’s really good at. — Cheers Colin Wilson here RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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Harumph!! Twice as many Americans as English players, including the reigning US PGA champion. English golfers just don’t get into the international spirit of golf; hardly ever travelling outside of Europe! ;^) Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Starts on November 21. Looks like the field is well up in quality this year. USPGA Tour players ALLAN, Steve (Vic) ALLENBY, Robert (Vic) APPLEBY, Stuart (Vic) BADDELEY, Aaron (Vic) BEEM, Rich (USA) CHALMERS, Greg (WA) COLES, Gavin (NSW) GOGGIN Mathew (Tas) GOW, Paul (NSW) HOWELL III, Charles (USA) LONARD, Peter (NSW) LONG, Michael (NZ) OGILVY, Geoff (Vic) PAMPLING, Rod (Qld) PARRY, Craig (WA) PERKS, Craig (NZ) PERRY, Kenny (USA) SENDEN, John (Qld) TATAURANGI, Phil (NZ) European Tour players DOUGHERTY, Nick (Eng) FOWLER, Peter (NSW) GARDINER, Scott (NSW) GREEN, Richard (Vic) JOHNSON, Richard (Swe) LEANEY, Stephen (WA) MOSELEY, Jarrod (WA) NILSSON, Jens (Swe) NORGREN, Marcus (Swe) O’HERN, Nick (WA) O’MALLEY, Peter (NSW) RUMFORD, Brett (WA) SCOTT, Adam (Qld) TURNER, Greg (NZ) Buy.com/Nationwide Tour players ALKER, Steven (NZ) GREEN, Nathan (NSW) PAINTER, Anthony (NSW) Japanese Tour players CAROLAN, Tony (Qld) JONES, Brendan (NSW) LAYCOCK, Scott (Vic) And also: BUCKLE, Andrew (Qld) FRASER, Adam (Vic) FRASER, Marcus (Vic) GRADY, Wayne (Qld) LEE, Richard (NZ) McLEAN, James (Vic) PADDISON, Gareth (NZ) SENIOR, Peter (Qld) STOLZ, Andre (NSW) Plus there’ll be a few interesting names trying through final qualifying, like: DRUCE, Kenny (NSW) McWHINNEY, Peter (Qld) PARSONS Lucas (NSW) PODLICH, David (Qld) SCAHILL, Stephen (NZ) SPENCE, Craig (Vic) — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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Colin, to be perfectly honest, I think it looks a rather weak field for such a prestigious national Open. Just 1 top 20 player, no top Europeans and only one top US player Charles Howell. I know it’s a difficult time of the year to get the top players there but don’t kid yourself – it’s a very poor field in world terms.

Whoops…make that 3X as many Americans as English! The only top US player is Howell? Are you kiddin’ me or what? Howell has one lesseer PGA TOur win Beem has three PGA Tour wins and a major! So none of the Euro Tours top players are in. There are some great Aussie and NZ players there who will make it a great event anyways. Rob — Service is the rent we pay for being RSG Masters 2002 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS_02.html ) RSG Masters 2003 ( http://home.att.net/~janellenrob/RSG-MS-03P.html )

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Harumph!! Twice as many Americans as English players, including the reigning US PGA champion. English golfers just don’t get into the international spirit of golf; hardly ever travelling outside of Europe! ;^)

Yeah, but see what the count is, and who travels here, for the three Euro Tour co-sanctioned events after Christmas! At least we’ll get your secondary (Nationwide) Tour players in abundance in February/March. ;-) — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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Xcellent!….now does anyone know how to score some freebie tix to this??? :) ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Starts on November 21. Looks like the field is well up in quality this year. USPGA Tour players ALLAN, Steve (Vic) ALLENBY, Robert (Vic) APPLEBY, Stuart (Vic) BADDELEY, Aaron (Vic) BEEM, Rich (USA) CHALMERS, Greg (WA) COLES, Gavin (NSW) GOGGIN Mathew (Tas) GOW, Paul (NSW) HOWELL III, Charles (USA) LONARD, Peter (NSW) LONG, Michael (NZ) OGILVY, Geoff (Vic) PAMPLING, Rod (Qld) PARRY, Craig (WA) PERKS, Craig (NZ) PERRY, Kenny (USA) SENDEN, John (Qld) TATAURANGI, Phil (NZ) European Tour players DOUGHERTY, Nick (Eng) FOWLER, Peter (NSW) GARDINER, Scott (NSW) GREEN, Richard (Vic) JOHNSON, Richard (Swe) LEANEY, Stephen (WA) MOSELEY, Jarrod (WA) NILSSON, Jens (Swe) NORGREN, Marcus (Swe) O’HERN, Nick (WA) O’MALLEY, Peter (NSW) RUMFORD, Brett (WA) SCOTT, Adam (Qld) TURNER, Greg (NZ) Buy.com/Nationwide Tour players ALKER, Steven (NZ) GREEN, Nathan (NSW) PAINTER, Anthony (NSW) Japanese Tour players CAROLAN, Tony (Qld) JONES, Brendan (NSW) LAYCOCK, Scott (Vic) And also: BUCKLE, Andrew (Qld) FRASER, Adam (Vic) FRASER, Marcus (Vic) GRADY, Wayne (Qld) LEE, Richard (NZ) McLEAN, James (Vic) PADDISON, Gareth (NZ) SENIOR, Peter (Qld) STOLZ, Andre (NSW) Plus there’ll be a few interesting names trying through final qualifying, like: DRUCE, Kenny (NSW) McWHINNEY, Peter (Qld) PARSONS Lucas (NSW) PODLICH, David (Qld) SCAHILL, Stephen (NZ) SPENCE, Craig (Vic)

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rec.sport.golf with his/her presence, and uttered…..: <snip No mention of Michael Campbell!? — Mad’Doug Trentham Camp GC, New Zealand RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=stokesd Please remove the apostrophe (‘) to email me

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No mention of Michael Campbell!?

No. And according to the entry form, entries closed on 25th October. — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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Greetings all… Kenny Perry has withdrawn today .. snip from http://www.holdenaustralianopengolf.com/ "Kenny Perry, the world’s 25th ranked player, has today advised of his withdrawal from this year’s Holden Australian Open. Perry said that due to personal reasons he had no option but to scratch from the Championship." Still a great field tho’ cya.. markj

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No mention of Michael Campbell!? No. And according to the entry form, entries closed on 25th October. — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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Xcellent!….now does anyone know how to score some freebie tix to this??? :) )

Find a member of Cheltenham. They’ve taken it over for carparking, driving range and the like so the Chelt members have been given freebies. My mum’s come good already ;-)

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Starts on November 21. Looks like the field is well up in quality this year. Bugger!  John Daly is missing.  Read somewhere he was coming.  Really was hoping to see him…

He’s playing in the PGA? in Queensland Adrian

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Harumph!! Twice as many Americans as English players, including the reigning US PGA champion. English golfers just don’t get into the international spirit of golf; hardly ever travelling outside of Europe!

As far as I can tell from the Australian Open website the field contains as many Americans (Beem and Howell) as English (Dougherty and Hazelden) golfers. Crispin Roche

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Harumph!! Twice as many Americans as English players, including the reigning US PGA champion. English golfers just don’t get into the international spirit of golf; hardly ever travelling outside of Europe!

Also the Australian Open coincides with the BMW Asian Open which is a joint Asian-European Tour sanctioned event, and if last years event is anything to go by there will be a sizeable contingent of European Tour players at that tournament. Crispin Roche

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rec.sport.golf with his/her presence, and uttered…..: No mention of Michael Campbell!? No. And according to the entry form, entries closed on 25th October.

hmmm… that’s strange. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find what he’s up to that week, as his website only has this years schedule. Maybe he has the qualify ;-) — Mad’Doug Trentham Camp GC, New Zealand RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=stokesd Please remove the apostrophe (‘) to email me

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rec.sport.golf with his/her presence, and uttered…..: No mention of Michael Campbell!? No. And according to the entry form, entries closed on 25th October. hmmm… that’s strange. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find what he’s up to that week, as his website only has this years schedule.

Maybe he is playing in the BMW Asian Open in Taiwan.  After all he came 6th there last year and it is a joint European-Asian Tour sanctioned event. Crispin Roche

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Also the Australian Open coincides with the BMW Asian Open which is a joint Asian-European Tour sanctioned event, and if last years event is anything to go by there will be a sizeable contingent of European Tour players at that tournament.

I think the general programming philosophy of the Australasian Tour now is that in terms of main events there is a fairly narrow window between when the US and Euro Tours stop and when they start again. This time of the year (November-December) is also problematic because of some end-of-year overseas tour events, Tour qualifying schools etc. So before Christmas the Oz Tour is programming national events ilke the Australian Open, the Australian PGA and the Australian Masters. These are of more interest (maybe) to the Aussie "regulars", who come back from their overseas tours to play or in some cases to be here for Christmas. After the New Year in January-March come the co-sanctioned Euro Tour events (which are the richest on the Australian calendar) and the Nationwide Tour events, which are now seen as a lead-in or "Australian opening swing" to that tour. From an Australian golf follower’s perspective, I think it works well. I think it would be great one day for an Australian event to be co-sanctioned with the main USPGA Tour, but it would cost a fortune comparatively and would need a good sponsor. It couldn’t be the Australian Open, as it would limit Australian national entries too much. — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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oh damn!!. i new i should have joined that club Xcellent!….now does anyone know how to score some freebie tix to this??? :) ) Find a member of Cheltenham. They’ve taken it over for carparking, driving range and the like so the Chelt members have been given freebies. My mum’s come good already ;-)

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He’s playing in the PGA? in Queensland

Yup.  Sorry, got the two confused.  Darn, I can’t take any days off until the end of the year!… — Cheers Nuno Souto

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rec.sport.golf with his/her presence, and uttered…..: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – rec.sport.golf with his/her presence, and uttered…..: No mention of Michael Campbell!? No. And according to the entry form, entries closed on 25th October. hmmm… that’s strange. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find what he’s up to that week, as his website only has this years schedule. Maybe he is playing in the BMW Asian Open in Taiwan.  After all he came 6th there last year and it is a joint European-Asian Tour sanctioned event.

That’ll be it!  Cheers Crispin. — Mad’Doug Trentham Camp GC, New Zealand RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=stokesd Please remove the apostrophe (‘) to email me

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So this year sees a "changing of the guard". Some have suggested that a group like Baddeley, Scott and Lamb will arouse as much spectator interest as the forty-somethings like Norman and O’Meara.

I would love to see a shootout between appleby & allenby. That would be something to watch. I always love it when the commentators get them mixed up… its pretty easy to differentiate them. I suspect the course might not be as tough as it could be (weather has been fairly kind with plenty of recent rain). We will see what the weather holds over the next four days. Some of the more "marquee" groupings on the first two days are: Norman/Allenby/O’Hern Faldo/Goggin/Moseley Chalmers/Fulke/Kuchar Baddeley/Scott/Lamb O’Meara/Appleby/O’Malley Gardiner/Smith/Gow Parry/Ilonen/Turner I’m going on Sunday. I walked Kingston Heath with my son when he played a junior tournament there in March, so it’s good to know a bit about the course and the holes when watching, either in reality or on TV.

I’m going thursday. I will be following the appleby group for a bit in the afternoon. Probably goggin & gaunt a little earlier. Will post a report to rsg when my travels are complete. — Andrew Cassin

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The Australian Open starts tomorrow at Melbourne’s Kingston Heath GC. The event is covered at http://www.holdenaustralianopengolf.com The field is not a bad one. Australians from the USPGA Tour include Norman, Allenby, Appleby, Parry, Goggin, Chalmers, Grady and 2001 rookies Paul Gow and Mark Hensby. Australians from the European Tour include O’Hern, Senior, Lonard, Moseley, O’Malley, Druce, Senden, Green and Parsons. Brett Ogle is also teeing off. There’s a few overseas players like Faldo, O’Meara, Fulke and Webster, although Harrington pulled out, as did Michael Campbell (his wife is expecting a child this week). Of much interest though will be that the field contains a lot of fresh young faces with the potential to be great golfers. Apart from defending champion Aaron Baddeley, there’s Adam Scott, Mikko Ilonen (current British Amateur champion), Matt Kuchar, James McLean, Scott Gardiner, Andrew Webster (current Australian Amateur champion) and Brad Lamb. There are 13 amateurs invited to the event. So this year sees a "changing of the guard". Some have suggested that a group like Baddeley, Scott and Lamb will arouse as much spectator interest as the forty-somethings like Norman and O’Meara. Some of the more "marquee" groupings on the first two days are: Norman/Allenby/O’Hern Faldo/Goggin/Moseley Chalmers/Fulke/Kuchar Baddeley/Scott/Lamb O’Meara/Appleby/O’Malley Gardiner/Smith/Gow Parry/Ilonen/Turner I’m going on Sunday. I walked Kingston Heath with my son when he played a junior tournament there in March, so it’s good to know a bit about the course and the holes when watching, either in reality or on TV. Looking forward to it. Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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Big Col My boxed trifecta is : Allenby Wayne Smith Adam Scott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Australian Open starts tomorrow at Melbourne’s Kingston Heath GC. The event is covered at http://www.holdenaustralianopengolf.com The field is not a bad one. Australians from the USPGA Tour include Norman, Allenby, Appleby, Parry, Goggin, Chalmers, Grady and 2001 rookies Paul Gow and Mark Hensby. Australians from the European Tour include O’Hern, Senior, Lonard, Moseley, O’Malley, Druce, Senden, Green and Parsons. Brett Ogle is also teeing off. There’s a few overseas players like Faldo, O’Meara, Fulke and Webster, although Harrington pulled out, as did Michael Campbell (his wife is expecting a child this week). Of much interest though will be that the field contains a lot of fresh young faces with the potential to be great golfers. Apart from defending champion Aaron Baddeley, there’s Adam Scott, Mikko Ilonen (current British Amateur champion), Matt Kuchar, James McLean, Scott Gardiner, Andrew Webster (current Australian Amateur champion) and Brad Lamb. There are 13 amateurs invited to the event. So this year sees a "changing of the guard". Some have suggested that a group like Baddeley, Scott and Lamb will arouse as much spectator interest as the forty-somethings like Norman and O’Meara. Some of the more "marquee" groupings on the first two days are: Norman/Allenby/O’Hern Faldo/Goggin/Moseley Chalmers/Fulke/Kuchar Baddeley/Scott/Lamb O’Meara/Appleby/O’Malley Gardiner/Smith/Gow Parry/Ilonen/Turner I’m going on Sunday. I walked Kingston Heath with my son when he played a junior tournament there in March, so it’s good to know a bit about the course and the holes when watching, either in reality or on TV. Looking forward to it. Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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I suspect the course might not be as tough as it could be (weather has been fairly kind with plenty of recent rain). We will see what the weather holds over the next four days.

I think this will be the case. They’ll be able to shoot a little more at the pins, less need for the bump and run. The forecast for the weekend is for quite warm weather, but Kingston Heath in February would be a different proposition. Who this will advantage though is anyone’s guess. Personally I’m looking out for O’Hern, Scott, Allenby and Goggin to finish near the top. Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com

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The Australian Open starts tomorrow at Melbourne’s Kingston Heath GC. The event is covered at http://www.holdenaustralianopengolf.com

Yikes, gate prices are not cheap – $33!!! its a rip off when you consider that the majority of people involved in the tournament ie. players, caddies, marshals, media etc dont pay ….not to mention the hundreds of employees of sponsors and their friends will be getting free tickets

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Well, considering the money the sponsors inject, I wouldn’t call them "free" tickets. McBain

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its a company expense. what they inject goes into setting up the tournament, the advertising, the marquee’s, tv stuff etc….then they print several thousand tickets and hand them out to employee’s, friends of employees/clients. my point being is that hardly anyone connected with the tournament actually pays….its a free for all! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, considering the money the sponsors inject, I wouldn’t call them "free" tickets. McBain SNIP hundreds of employees of sponsors and their friends will be getting free tickets

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