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When should I look at lie angles?

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If you are not a "standard" build. I have been playing with a set of irons for 4 years.  The shafts where a bit short and the lie was a bit flat, causing me to hunch over at address. This forced me to take the club inside the line too quickly and my weight then feel back on to my heals.  Sound familiar ? I’m getting a new set of clubs soon with 1/2 inch extra on the shaft with the lie 1 degree upright. PS I’m 6.2.

What kind of clubs? -Greg

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Without getting to technical, when you address the ball the toe of the club should be slightly of the ground (2 to 3 millimetres). If yo have a good swing and setup but continually hit pulls or pushes (particularly with the short clubs) then the lie is likely to be out. Everyone can benefit from haveing their equipment setup to match their swing, I recently read an article suggesting that equipment setup equates to 30 percent of a golfers accuracy!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a general question – applicable to anybody. What might a pro observe in my game or swing that would have him suggest that I get my lie angle checked?

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Everytime you’re thinking about new irons.  Get them bent to your specs – how to know?, get tested. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Without getting to technical, when you address the ball the toe of the club should be slightly of the ground (2 to 3 millimetres). If yo have a good swing and setup but continually hit pulls or pushes (particularly with the short clubs) then the lie is likely to be out. Everyone can benefit from haveing their equipment setup to match their swing, I recently read an article suggesting that equipment setup equates to 30 percent of a golfers accuracy! This is a general question – applicable to anybody. What might a pro observe in my game or swing that would have him suggest that I get my lie angle checked?

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Roger that !. PS the demo club I got from the pro was a 6 iron.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Its worth getting it checked out.  Before, when I was using the other clubs, everything seemed too contrived.  I got a demo club from my pro, plus 1/2 inch extra in length and 2 degree upright.  Although the lie is 1 degree too upright for me, the lenght is spot on. By the way, not to nitpick, but for others listening in: a lot of people talk about correct length for their clubs.  The critical attribute for fitting is the lie.  There really isn’t any way you could tell that your club length is "spot on".  That’s more of a judgement call anyway, except when you get to the shortest clubs and there is no way for you to take a good posture with them.  If you are "spot on" with your 5 iron, then you’d be off with every other club because they’re longer or shorter, right? The point is that the lie has to fit.  Your 5 iron and your 7 iron both fit you because they have different lie angles, while the 7 iron is shorter.

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Conversely, I have shorted my driver by an inch.   I have often though, that if all the clubs in your bag were the same length, golf would be much easier.

Do you really want the same length for your lob wedge and your driver?

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Conversely, I have shorted my driver by an inch.   I have often thought, that if all the clubs in your bag were the same length, golf would be much easier. Do you really want the same length for your lob wedge and your driver?

My driver is 6.2 and will kick your bum PS whats a lob wedge ? lol

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I have often though, that if all the clubs in your bag were the same lenght, golf would be much easier.

I think it would be easier from the standpoint of being able to swing every club exactly the same way. But it would probably be much harder overall because it would be hard to hit really short shots with a long shaft (wedges) and impossible to hit long drives with a short shaft. — Spam sink email address, sorry

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If you are not a "standard" build. I have been playing with a set of irons for 4 years.  The shafts where a bit short and the lie was a bit flat, causing me to hunch over at address.  This forced me to take the club inside the line too quickly and my weight then feel back on to my heals.  Sound familiar ? I’m getting a new set of clubs soon with 1/2 inch extra on the shaft with the lie 1 degree upright. PS I’m 6.2.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is a general question – applicable to anybody. What might a pro observe in my game or swing that would have him suggest that I get my lie angle checked?

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If you are not a "standard" build. I have been playing with a set of irons for 4 years.  The shafts where a bit short and the lie was a bit flat, causing me to hunch over at address.  This forced me to take the club inside the line too quickly and my weight then feel back on to my heals.  Sound familiar ? I’m getting a new set of clubs soon with 1/2 inch extra on the shaft with the lie 1 degree upright. PS I’m 6.2.

This is almost exactly my situation. I’m 6′3". — Spam sink email address, sorry

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Its worth getting it checked out.  Before, when I was using the other clubs, everything seemed too contrived.  I got a demo club from my pro, plus 1/2 inch extra in length and 2 degree upright.  Although the lie is 1 degree too upright for me, the lenght is spot on.  My posture has dramatically changed (for the better), more natural in feeling, more relaxed. Conversely, I have shorted my driver by an inch.   I have often though, that if all the clubs in your bag were the same lenght, golf would be much easier.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you are not a "standard" build. I have been playing with a set of irons for 4 years.  The shafts where a bit short and the lie was a bit flat, causing me to hunch over at address. This forced me to take the club inside the line too quickly and my weight then feel back on to my heals.  Sound familiar ? I’m getting a new set of clubs soon with 1/2 inch extra on the shaft with the lie 1 degree upright. PS I’m 6.2. This is almost exactly my situation. I’m 6′3". — Spam sink email address, sorry

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Its worth getting it checked out.  Before, when I was using the other clubs, everything seemed too contrived.  I got a demo club from my pro, plus 1/2 inch extra in length and 2 degree upright.  Although the lie is 1 degree too upright for me, the lenght is spot on.

By the way, not to nitpick, but for others listening in: a lot of people talk about correct length for their clubs.  The critical attribute for fitting is the lie.  There really isn’t any way you could tell that your club length is "spot on".  That’s more of a judgement call anyway, except when you get to the shortest clubs and there is no way for you to take a good posture with them.  If you are "spot on" with your 5 iron, then you’d be off with every other club because they’re longer or shorter, right?  The point is that the lie has to fit.  Your 5 iron and your 7 iron both fit you because they have different lie angles, while the 7 iron is shorter.

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This is a general question – applicable to anybody. What might a pro observe in my game or swing that would have him suggest that I get my lie angle checked?

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This is a general question – applicable to anybody. What might a pro observe in my game or swing that would have him suggest that I get my lie angle checked?

Your shots tend to go toward one side or another, but you’re attacking the ball down the line. In other words, if you have too-flat lie angles, your shots will tend to leak right, even if you’ve applied a perfect swing.  You see, the face is pointing to the right, which will send the ball there. Upright lie angles?  Ball will leak left, even with a perfectly straight down-the-line swing.   You can infer what might be lie-angle problems from such ballflight.  If you suspect you might have such issues, doing a dynamic test with a lie board (or tape on the bottom of the clubs) is in order. Mike Mike Dalecki  GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://www.dalecki.net/clubdoctor RSG-Wisconsin 2003:  http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2003 RSG Roll Call:  http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=daleckim I do not patronize spammers.  Help keep RSG clean!  

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This is a general question – applicable to anybody. What might a pro observe in my game or swing that would have him suggest that I get my lie angle checked?

The obvious – the toe or the heel dig into the ground (divots aren’t flat at the bottom.)  The not so obvious – if your clubs are too upright, shots will tend to go left.  (This is why many manufacturers make the long irons and woods more upright than the rest of the set.)  Needless to say, if your swing isn’t dead on, or you’re making compensations for your clubs, you won’t be able to determine this.

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