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news.net: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Although I advised using lofted driver, I will admit that I don’t, myself. I tee with a 3 wood.  I am surprised the clubmakers did not come in here and tell you that the two cannot be substitutes.  You may find a driver with the loft of a 3 wood, but it will be ligher and longer.  If you choke up or cut the shaft down, it will make it feel lighter still, not like a 3 wood at all. Puttster message Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground. Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion. Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? Those of you who use the Ping i-3 3-wood, how do you tee it and hit it?  What about the Cleveland Launcher 3-wood? Not clear to me how these are supposed to be hit.  Demo day reps and store people not always clear or consistent on this issue. Thanks for any light shed on this! Jonathan Schilling

Try a Sonartec 13* deepface #3…or #2 head. G

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I use a Taylor Made Supersteel 3 wood on the tee with no problem

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Although I advised using lofted driver, I will admit that I don’t, myself. I tee with a 3 wood.  I am surprised the clubmakers did not come in here and tell you that the two cannot be substitutes.  You may find a driver with the loft of a 3 wood, but it will be ligher and longer.  If you choke up or cut the shaft down, it will make it feel lighter still, not like a 3 wood at all. Puttster Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? Those of you who use the Ping i-3 3-wood, how do you tee it and hit it?  What about the Cleveland Launcher 3-wood?  Not clear to me how these are supposed to be hit.  Demo day reps and store people not always clear or consistent on this issue. Thanks for any light shed on this! Jonathan Schilling

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Although I advised using lofted driver, I will admit that I don’t, myself. I tee with a 3 wood.  I am surprised the clubmakers did not come in here and tell you that the two cannot be substitutes.  You may find a driver with the loft of a 3 wood, but it will be ligher and longer.  If you choke up or cut the shaft down, it will make it feel lighter still, not like a 3 wood at all. Puttster – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? Those of you who use the Ping i-3 3-wood, how do you tee it and hit it?  What about the Cleveland Launcher 3-wood?  Not clear to me how these are supposed to be hit.  Demo day reps and store people not always clear or consistent on this issue. Thanks for any light shed on this! Jonathan Schilling

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I tried a Wilson Dep Red 3W Fat Shaft (15* w/a stiff shaft) and an extra-strong version (w/a Tour Pro stiff shaft?) at a local Demo day this past weekend. Both were relatively easy to hit straight. As expected, the former launched the ball higher. I will eventually buy one of these clubs. However, I need to think which one I’d prefer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just started using the Wilson Deep Red 3 wood off the tee. The consistency is amazing. Give it a shot.

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Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions?

My Taylormade supersteel 3 wood hits very well off the tee. It also hits well off the turf and out of light rough.  They are pretty cheap now, with the introduction of the 200 and 300 series woods.  Probably get them off of E-Bay or Golf Club Exchange for about 70 bucks. Golfsmith and Dynacraft both have some larger headed 3 wood heads that you could build from, around the 220 cc range.  I don’t think that buys you that much gear effect, however.  Better to get a larger driver in 12 degree if that’s what you’re trying for.

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Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing.

I use an Integra TF360 3 wood (15*) with a Grafalloy Pro-lite 45 shaft cut to 44" and sporting a Winn all-weather grip.  The clubhead is the size of a driver (about 250cc).  I would never try to hit it off the ground, but it’s great off a tee.   Ordered it from Golf Direct.  Diamond Tour also sells them. http://www.glfdirect.com/ http://www.diamondtour.com/ Neal B.

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Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing.

If you want that, why don’t you look at the Ping i3 driver?  It comes in 44" length, and 13* loft.  Sounds like that might do it as a driving club.

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Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. If you want that, why don’t you look at the Ping i3 driver?  It comes in 44" length, and 13* loft.  Sounds like that might do it as a driving club.

13* Ping I3 driver? Ping really has many options. I saw a 12* Ping I3 3-wood last night.

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Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing.

Jonathan, If you’re looking to buy proline/OEM then I have the club for you. I was looking for a 3W that would be good off the tee and rough and then recently bought the new King Cobra SS 3+ (13*). It has the stock Aldila HM 60g shaft which has a mid kickpoint for a mid-high tradjectory. The face is fairly large with a face height about the same as a ball diameter. It is a really forgiving club with not much distance or accuracy loss on toe and heel shots. I use it just as often as my driver off the tee and can find the fairway quite easily with it. I play the ball about 4 inches ahead of center on the tee (and hit on the upswing like the driver) and about 1 inch ahead of center on the turf. The great thing about this club is you can get it for $149US which is much lower than the cost of most metalwoods. Other recomendations: 1) New Adams Tight Lies GT Strong 3 (13*) – I also tried this club but the tradjectory was lower than I was looking for. 2) Callaway Steelhead III – Really large face but I did not consider it because I know too many people who had problems with the orignial and plus models. 3) Lots of cash? Ping Ti3 and TiSI tech 3Ws Rod

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Dan, I’ve been reading about Leyland woods in RSG.  Don’t know a thing about them.  Do you have a Website location I can visit? G

Gary, It probably was something I wrote, CSG is a fairly small company and I seem to be the biggest fan of their metal woods here in RSG. I can’t speak to their irons, I play GS Tour Cavity irons. Here’s the URL to the Titan metal woods: http://www.csggolf.com/store/product.asp?id=444 I have 4 of them, the 8* and 10.5* driver heads, plus the 15* 3 wood and 21* 5 wood. The 8* has a 45" stiff Harrison 3.5 in it, the 10.5* a 44.5" stiff Prolight 35, the 15* a 43" stiff Prolight Fairway and the 21* a 6.0 Right Light Wood shaft. Keep in mind that my opinion is probably influenced by how well I hit them (except the 8*) and so YMMV. :-) — Dan Driscoll Member USGA, NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld

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<snipped the 21* a 6.0 Right Light Wood shaft. That should be "Rifle Light Wood shaft". — Dan Driscoll Member USGA, NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld

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Try this one: http://www.diamondtour.com/golfshop/woods/woods_integra260.shtml I have a Hippo Bore Through Tour Series 3 that hits great off the tee.  They are hard to find now. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? Those of you who use the Ping i-3 3-wood, how do you tee it and hit it?  What about the Cleveland Launcher 3-wood?  Not clear to me how these are supposed to be hit.  Demo day reps and store people not always clear or consistent on this issue. Thanks for any light shed on this! Jonathan Schilling

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I tee off with a Ping Ti3 14 degree fairway wood (190cc).  I still swing it with a sweeping motion similar to my 5 wood, with just a fraction of the ball above the clubface.  I used to tee it higher, but I kept skying the ball.  I cracked the stock Aldilla shaft – had Ping Wrx put on a Grafalloy Pro Lite Fairway.  Just recently, I’ve been getting up to 240 yds. off the tee (when I hit it well, of course).

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This is a component club, but CSG will assemble it for you for a nominal fee. Which shaft you should use depends on your swingspeed and personal preference. If you want a Grafalloy shaft you will have to assemble it yourself, CSG doesn’t sell that brand.

Dan, I’ve been reading about Leyland woods in RSG.  Don’t know a thing about them.  Do you have a Website location I can visit? G

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Callaway Big Bertha Titanium 3 wood. Callaway Steelhead (not plus) 3 wood. Ping i3 3 wood. I think the Ping 3 wood has the smallest face. I’ve used all three over the years off the tee with excellent results. BTW the Callaway Steelhead (not plus) driver in 12 degrees is like a 2 wood and very steady and forgiving off the tee. Hope this helps, aloha, jim

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Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing.

<snipped I love my Leyland Titan 15* 3 wood. Is is 230cc of cast 15-5 stainless steel with a blind bore hosel and weighs only 202 grams, which is typical of driver heads and is very light for a 3 wood. I have it on a stiff Grafalloy Prolight Fairway shaft cut to 43". Because the head is so light I had to add some lead tape to get the swingweight up to D3, where I prefer it. But you can put it on a 44" driver length lightweight graphite shaft and it should swingweight at about D2. I have used the Titan exclusively as my driving club since September of last year up until yesterday and never really missed the driver. Several RSG’ers who have played golf with me can attest to how well this club drives the ball. This is a component club, but CSG will assemble it for you for a nominal fee. Which shaft you should use depends on your swingspeed and personal preference. If you want a Grafalloy shaft you will have to assemble it yourself, CSG doesn’t sell that brand. — Dan Driscoll Member USGA, NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground. Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion. Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? Jonathan Schilling

Jonathan, 3wds are designed to hit from both fairway and tee.   Just that some have slightly deeper faces while others have shallower faces for fairway and somewhat ruff lies.  Deeper faces tend to be more forgiving on mis-hits.  Once you find the desired head size you’re seeking lengthen the graphite shaft to 43 1/2 or 44" depending on swing weight desired.  Check out the new Cobra 3wd+ (13*)…works off tee and fairway.  I have one, to deep and large for me. Works great off the tee (230-235 depending) and from the middle of fairway…NO good from ruff, so I use my 2i G

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Look at the 3+ woods such as the Callaway VFT which should give you pretty much what you are looking for.  Another alternative would be the 12 degree drivers or a #2 wood if you can find it. I don’t understand why you want to tee the 3-wood the same as the driver.The 3-wood face is  made to hit from the deck regardless of it’s depth. Therefore, it would appear to me that you more than likely will miss the sweet spot on the club face unless you alter the natural swing path.  It seems to me that you will be better served by a high loft driver unless you lower the tee when driving with the fairway woods.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? Those of you who use the Ping i-3 3-wood, how do you tee it and hit it?  What about the Cleveland Launcher 3-wood?  Not clear to me how these are supposed to be hit.  Demo day reps and store people not always clear or consistent on this issue. Thanks for any light shed on this! Jonathan Schilling

How about getting a higher-lofted driver head?  Titleist, for example, made a 12.5 (I’m pretty sure) degree driver in their 975D series.  You might also consider one of the major component suppliers and have a higher-lofted driver assembled for you.  Or possibly consider a ‘driving iron’ type club, if that suits your tastes. — Ron Blanchard http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=blanchardr I took the RSG 2002 Pledge to not encourage trolls "Make Golf Difficult Again."  -  Ian MacCallister

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Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? Those of you who use the Ping i-3 3-wood, how do you tee it and hit it?  What about the Cleveland Launcher 3-wood?  Not clear to me how these are supposed to be hit.  Demo day reps and store people not always clear or consistent on this issue. Thanks for any light shed on this! Jonathan Schilling

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I just started using the Wilson Deep Red 3 wood off the tee. The consistency is amazing. Give it a shot. Vik – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? Those of you who use the Ping i-3 3-wood, how do you tee it and hit it?  What about the Cleveland Launcher 3-wood?  Not clear to me how these are supposed to be hit.  Demo day reps and store people not always clear or consistent on this issue. Thanks for any light shed on this! Jonathan Schilling

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Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions?

I quit using the Callaway Big Bertha 3 wood because it was too deep-faced to hit off the fairway well (for me.)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for a 3-wood to use exclusively off the tee, instead of using a driver.  Will not use it off the ground (will use 5- and 7-woods for that).  Want to hit it off the tee in same way you hit a driver:  ball teed halfway above top of clubface, hit it while on the upswing. Problem:  most 3-woods now seem to have shallow or semi-shallow faces, to benefit when hitting off ground.  Some seem to need to be hit from tee box with ball teed just above grass, using a fairway-type sweeping motion.  Don’t want that. What 3-woods that can be hit from the tee driver-style are around? Any suggestions? I quit using the Callaway Big Bertha 3 wood because it was too deep-faced to hit off the fairway well (for me.)

My old Callaway Steelhead is my favourite club. I never fancied the idea of hitting an Orlimar-style 3wood off the tee. You could always try a Callaway 2 wood if you only intend using it off the tee. I bought one 2nd hand for a try-out. It’s relatively deep-faced, great off the tee, but a bit inconsistent off the deck.

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