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My guess is that the straight one will have the shortest roll because the spin is against the direction of the travel. If you play tennis, underspinned balls do not bounce as far as other kind of spins.
The spin is mostly against the direction of travel with a draw and fade too… dsc – acssysdsc
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With a driver, the straight ball will carry the farthest, but will have less roll than the draw. A slight fade will sometimes carry a little farther than a straight shot because it will have a little more backspin. A slice usually doen’t go anywhere since it’s such a glancing blow. A properly struck driver, fitted to the player, will have a low spin rate, 2600-2800 rpm, and a high, ~12-15 degree, launch angle. The ball should climb quickly off the club, level out about 70-100 yards off the tee. A straight shot isn’t going to have enough back spin to matter. However, I think Golf Digest showed that a player 100 mph driver swing would hit a draw 257 yards and a fade 228 with a 10 degree driver. I don’t think they defined a fade, but, IMNSHO, more than 10 yards and it’s a hook or a slice. |My guess is that the straight one will have the shortest roll because the spin |is against the direction of the travel. If you play tennis, underspinned balls |do not bounce as far as other kind of spins. — Mike Walpole | This space | Miamisburg, OH | left blank! | (513)865-1086 | |
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My guess is that the straight one will have the shortest roll because the spin is against the direction of the travel. If you play tennis, underspinned balls do not bounce as far as other kind of spins.
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I’ve always heard that a fade will land softer and a draw will run further. My question is this: Would it be the opposite for left handers?
Whatever the correct answer is for a right hander… should be the same for a left hander… If not how is a lefty hitting a draw different from a right hander hitting a fade?
Compare left handed draws to right handed draws and left handed fades to right handed fades. They are simply mirror images. Don’t compare lefty fades to righty draws or lefty draws to righty fades. They are not mirror images. dsc – acssysdsc
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Hello Joseph, If the 5 iron is hit sqaurely, would one hit the opened-face 4 iron outside in to achieve this result? Thanks, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -In my experience, fades always fly higher and land softer than straight shots of equivalent length. They do run a little bit to the side after landing, but unless aided by a slope, normal sidespin won’t move a ball more than a foot or three after it lands. Consider a straight ball hit with a 5 iron carrying, say, 180 yards, and a fade hit with a 4 iron carrying the same distance. The 4 iron has a longer shaft and greater clubhead speed as a result. The greater clubhead speed and lower loft would ordinarily mean greater distance than for the 5 iron, but opening the blade of the 4 iron adds loft, and the result is a shot hit about the same distance but with greater backspin. Which means a higher trajectory and a softer landing. -joseph Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)?*
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Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)? Thanks, Pete PS– I will probably have a follow-up question on drives :^)
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Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)?
This is just an educated guess, Peter, but all other things being equal I’d suspect the ball hit straight would land the softest. A fade and a draw are going to have some side spin on the ball, which I imagine might reduce the backspin some. On a perfectly straight shot, all of the spin should be backspin, which should enable it to hold a little better. — Don Porter Newspaper Reporter & Webmaster Web Page: http://www.datacruz.com/~dporter
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In my experience, fades always fly higher and land softer than straight shots of equivalent length. They do run a little bit to the side after landing, but unless aided by a slope, normal sidespin won’t move a ball more than a foot or three after it lands. Consider a straight ball hit with a 5 iron carrying, say, 180 yards, and a fade hit with a 4 iron carrying the same distance. The 4 iron has a longer shaft and greater clubhead speed as a result. The greater clubhead speed and lower loft would ordinarily mean greater distance than for the 5 iron, but opening the blade of the 4 iron adds loft, and the result is a shot hit about the same distance but with greater backspin. Which means a higher trajectory and a softer landing. -joseph – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)?*
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The fade will come in the highest and a more of its energy will be directed downward than with a lower shot. So I would say the fade lands the hardest, with the deepest ball mark, the draw the softest. Puttster – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)? Thanks, Pete PS– I will probably have a follow-up question on drives :^)
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The fade will land the softest from everything I have seen and heard. The advantage of a draw is increased roll after landing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)? Thanks, Pete PS– I will probably have a follow-up question on drives :^)
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schreibt: The fade will roll the shorter distance due to a higher ball flight and more backspin. Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)?
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Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)?
by "land the softest", i assume you mean roll less after it hits. if so, then the fade will land the softest. a draw is hit with a closed club face (wrt swing path) a fade is hit with an open club face (wrt swing path) a straight ball is hit with a square club face (wrt swing path) an opened club face will hit the ball higher and with more backspin, hence less forward roll after it hits. charlie Before you buy.
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Suppose I hit three five irons into a green with a fade, a draw, and a straight ball. Further suppose I use a 5+ for the fade and a 5- for the draw so they go the same distance. Which will land the softest (if there is any difference)?
Is the green perfectly level or does it slope front to back and/or side to side? It might very well change the outcome. dsc – acssysdsc
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I’ve always heard that a fade will land softer and a draw will run further. My question is this: Would it be the opposite for left handers? If not how is a lefty hitting a draw different from a right hander hitting a fade?
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The terms fade/slice and draw/hook describe the type of spin, not a specific direction. A fade is a shot typically hit with an open clubface and an outside in swingpath. A draw is typically hit with a closed clubface and an inside out swingpath. Please note that the words ‘left’ and ‘right’ are not a part of the description of either type of shot. A fade for a RHP moves left to right. A fade for a LHP moves right to left. A draw is the opposite. I’ve always heard that a fade will land softer and a draw will run further. My question is this: Would it be the opposite for left handers? If not how is a lefty hitting a draw different from a right hander hitting a fade?
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