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I think that IS the weekday rate. Check their webpage. I’m probably going to play Pasatiempo sometime this summer, maybe during the week. I’ve heard from someone who should know that I should be able to get a reduced rate being a Santa Cruz County resident, but I haven’t verified it yet. But I’ll also look into setting up an RSG-DeLaveaga for all you tightwads. I’m booked until mid-July, so it won’t happen before then. I’ll have to check into what it takes to get a weekend reservation there. I’ve never even attempted it.
I’m not restricted to weekends, as long as I can get some advance notice. There’s actually a good chance I’ll be going to 4 day work weeks sometime in July, my company wants everyone to use an additional 7 days of vacation this summer. — Dan Driscoll Member – NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – DeLaveaga is nice, but it requires a lot of course management. You won’t use your driver much on the front nine and there are lots of uneven lies, but it’s not as tough as either of the Poppy’s. Scott Mc I’ve never played DeLaveaga or Seascape, but would like to try all 3. If some puts together an outing down there I would definitely be interested. I haven’t played Pasatiempo, either, the weekend rate is too much for me. What’s the weekday rate? I think that IS the weekday rate. Check their webpage. I’m probably going to play Pasatiempo sometime this summer, maybe during the week. I’ve heard from someone who should know that I should be able to get a reduced rate being a Santa Cruz County resident, but I haven’t verified it yet. But I’ll also look into setting up an RSG-DeLaveaga for all you tightwads. I’m booked until mid-July, so it won’t happen before then. I’ll have to check into what it takes to get a weekend reservation there. I’ve never even attempted it.
Bill, and others: what about during the week? Is that ever a possibility for you folks? Never a problem for us retired types! But we always prefer lower rates. Does DeLaveaga have senior rates? That’d help a great deal, what with my fixed (or, these days, broken) income. But if weekends are the only option for the working classes, I’ll go for it anyhow. I’ll just skip a payment on my cemetery plot <sniff. Anything for golf. Peter
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyway, I think you’re on to the right solution. Participate in more RSG events. Perhaps somewhere along the coast in your neck of the woods next time? Yeah, maybe… DeLaveaga or Seascape? Or even… Pasatiempo? Anyone willing to spend $150 to play a top 100 ranked course? It would have to be a month or two from now. Been to Seascape a few times…that’d be ok. Forget PasaT for that money, for me. Too rich for my blood. Just checked the DeLaveaga website. Looks nice! That’d work for me, too. Actually, I’d prefer that to Seascape. Always like to play a new course. (Barring, of course, bad war news.) Peter
DeLaveaga is nice, but it requires a lot of course management. You won’t use your driver much on the front nine and there are lots of uneven lies, but it’s not as tough as either of the Poppy’s. Scott Mc
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DeLaveaga is nice, but it requires a lot of course management. You won’t use your driver much on the front nine and there are lots of uneven lies, but it’s not as tough as either of the Poppy’s. Scott Mc
I’ve never played DeLaveaga or Seascape, but would like to try all 3. If some puts together an outing down there I would definitely be interested. I haven’t played Pasatiempo, either, the weekend rate is too much for me. What’s the weekday rate? — Dan Driscoll Member – NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld
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DeLaveaga is nice, but it requires a lot of course management. You won’t use your driver much on the front nine and there are lots of uneven lies, but it’s not as tough as either of the Poppy’s. Scott Mc I’ve never played DeLaveaga or Seascape, but would like to try all 3. If some puts together an outing down there I would definitely be interested. I haven’t played Pasatiempo, either, the weekend rate is too much for me. What’s the weekday rate?
I think that IS the weekday rate. Check their webpage. I’m probably going to play Pasatiempo sometime this summer, maybe during the week. I’ve heard from someone who should know that I should be able to get a reduced rate being a Santa Cruz County resident, but I haven’t verified it yet. But I’ll also look into setting up an RSG-DeLaveaga for all you tightwads. I’m booked until mid-July, so it won’t happen before then. I’ll have to check into what it takes to get a weekend reservation there. I’ve never even attempted it.
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What is a "RSG event" ?
The newsgroup here. I didn’t know it either. Rec.Sport.Golf
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I have to say, though, the companionship was a lot better than the golf. The cart girl wasn’t too bad, either, although a bit on the slutty side 
. You just answered your own question. Get new glasses. It’ll help your golf, and undoubtedly will help you to more appropriate observations of aging I’m-here-because-the-aging-bargirls-wouldn’t-let-me-join-and-my-motorcycle- club-threw-me-out cartpeople.
Let’s just say I’m not that selective, and I liked her attitude. She had a few words to say about you, too, BTW. :-) (Ask Dorst, if you don’t believe me.)
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Anyway, I think you’re on to the right solution. Participate in more RSG events. Perhaps somewhere along the coast in your neck of the woods next time?
Yeah, maybe… DeLaveaga or Seascape? Or even… Pasatiempo? Anyone willing to spend $150 to play a top 100 ranked course? It would have to be a month or two from now.
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Anyway, I think you’re on to the right solution. Participate in more RSG events. Perhaps somewhere along the coast in your neck of the woods next time? Yeah, maybe… DeLaveaga or Seascape? Or even… Pasatiempo? Anyone willing to spend $150 to play a top 100 ranked course? It would have to be a month or two from now.
Been to Seascape a few times…that’d be ok. Forget PasaT for that money, for me. Too rich for my blood. Just checked the DeLaveaga website. Looks nice! That’d work for me, too. Actually, I’d prefer that to Seascape. Always like to play a new course. (Barring, of course, bad war news.) Peter
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Hmmm….a little bit of subtle gamesmanship from Mr Strauss, eh?? I’d better be sure to remember to carry my car-keys in my pocket and use the Bic lighter that ran out of gas, a couple of months ago, at RSG-Ohio.
Yep, that’s Peter, Subtle is his middle name. ;- — Dan Driscoll Member – NCGA RSG FAQ: http://ttsoft.com/thor/rsggolf.html RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=driscolld
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But I think the real reason is obvious. Expectations, pressure, and choking. I know how you feel Bill. After scoring my PB just the week before at SJ Muni and posting my experience here at RSG, I was wondering how I would do the next time I played. So naturally it’s an RSG event on the very same course. I imagine I would have felt a bit nervous regardless of the situation, but of course having Peter Strauss blurt out "let’s see you live up to that post" on the first tee doesn’t help.
Hmmm….a little bit of subtle gamesmanship from Mr Strauss, eh?? I’d better be sure to remember to carry my car-keys in my pocket and use the Bic lighter that ran out of gas, a couple of months ago, at RSG-Ohio. — David Hi-Tech Turf – Synthetic Turf Applications RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members?rollcall=sneddond email: dsneddon AT cogeco DOT ca
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I have to say, though, the companionship was a lot better than the golf. The cart girl wasn’t too bad, either, although a bit on the slutty side .
You just answered your own question. Get new glasses. It’ll help your golf, and undoubtedly will help you to more appropriate observations of aging I’m-here-because-the-aging-bargirls-wouldn’t-let-me-join-and-my-motorcycle- club-threw-me-out cartpeople.
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First off, go in with a goal. RSG-NW is three rounds; points through the first two flight you for Skins Madness on Sunday. My goal was simple: make the A Flight for Sunday. I’ve come to realize since that I should have aimed higher (and will in the future – you hear me Aamold? , but since this was my first competition ever, I figured that was a goal that was within my reach. I was right.
You have the same goal as I do next year…should be interesting
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But I think the real reason is obvious. Expectations, pressure, and choking.
I know how you feel Bill. After scoring my PB just the week before at SJ Muni and posting my experience here at RSG, I was wondering how I would do the next time I played. So naturally it’s an RSG event on the very same course. I imagine I would have felt a bit nervous regardless of the situation, but of course having Peter Strauss blurt out "let’s see you live up to that post" on the first tee doesn’t help. My expectations are much higher now also. I expect to at least keep my score in the mid 80’s. Shooting an 89 felt like shooting a 100 used to. I actually was swinging the club OK the first few holes, but after a while the nerves got to me and my tempo was just a little too quick. Couldn’t get control of the driver and I was pulling too many approach shots. I did have a couple of nice pitch shots, including an up and down to save par on 17. It appears Pelz is right (at least in my case) about his technique being effective against the forces of adrenaline. The pitch on 17 was a 7:30 and I had a nice 9:00 shot on 1 that worked well. But I also had a couple of other pitches that I hit too soft and came up short, so it may have gotten the better of me for those two shots. Just have to swing with confidence and not let fear trick you in to decelerating. I think the only viable options are either to quit playing in RSG events, or else to play in so many that they just become commonplace, just like any other round. I’m leaning towards the second option.
Anyway, I think you’re on to the right solution. Participate in more RSG events. Perhaps somewhere along the coast in your neck of the woods next time? Hang in there, Scott Mc
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Man I wish I’d known you guys were that nervous when we played, it might have helped me calm down a bit. I was so nervous I couldn’t believe it. Every shot felt like the first tee with 50 people standing around watching you hit. I will not go into the gory (and I mean GORY!) details here. Let’s just say I didn’t have my "A game." I was duffing and shanking shots like crazy. Hey, perhaps it is my moniker that did me in? Maybe I’ll change my name from Duffy McShanksalot to Rob Van HitsTheBallExactlyWhereHeIntendsToWithTheExactBallFlightRequiredBurg. Yeah, that’s it. The power of positive thinking. Just wait til next time… Because I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and doggone it, people like me, Rob VanHitsTheBallExactlyWhereHeIntendsToWithTheExactBallFlightRequiredBurg.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But I think the real reason is obvious. Expectations, pressure, and choking. I know how you feel Bill. After scoring my PB just the week before at SJ Muni and posting my experience here at RSG, I was wondering how I would do the next time I played. So naturally it’s an RSG event on the very same course. I imagine I would have felt a bit nervous regardless of the situation, but of course having Peter Strauss blurt out "let’s see you live up to that post" on the first tee doesn’t help. My expectations are much higher now also. I expect to at least keep my score in the mid 80’s. Shooting an 89 felt like shooting a 100 used to. I actually was swinging the club OK the first few holes, but after a while the nerves got to me and my tempo was just a little too quick. Couldn’t get control of the driver and I was pulling too many approach shots. I did have a couple of nice pitch shots, including an up and down to save par on 17. It appears Pelz is right (at least in my case) about his technique being effective against the forces of adrenaline. The pitch on 17 was a 7:30 and I had a nice 9:00 shot on 1 that worked well. But I also had a couple of other pitches that I hit too soft and came up short, so it may have gotten the better of me for those two shots. Just have to swing with confidence and not let fear trick you in to decelerating. I think the only viable options are either to quit playing in RSG events, or else to play in so many that they just become commonplace, just like any other round. I’m leaning towards the second option. Anyway, I think you’re on to the right solution. Participate in more RSG events. Perhaps somewhere along the coast in your neck of the woods next time? Hang in there, Scott Mc
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I have a dream. I started reading Rotella again the other day, and he said that all great athletes must have dreams and goals to motivate them. Well, I don’t put myself in the "great athlete" class, or even the "athlete" class, but I do have my goals. One of them is to post a non-sucking score at an RSG event. WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT???
Well, I can only comment from my one event’s worth of experience (RSG-NW, less than a month ago), but I’d be willing to give it a shot. You sound like you’ve got a game much like mine (I average around five-over for nine). First off, go in with a goal. RSG-NW is three rounds; points through the first two flight you for Skins Madness on Sunday. My goal was simple: make the A Flight for Sunday. I’ve come to realize since that I should have aimed higher (and will in the future – you hear me Aamold? , but since this was my first competition ever, I figured that was a goal that was within my reach. I was right. Second off – as Mike and Bret said, play YOUR game. You brought a game to the event – maybe not your "A" game, but you brought a game. Now you get to live with it. Trust all the work that came previous; this is not a time for questioning. You know what you’re capable of – now you just have a chance to do it again. Or better. I showed up with a driver that was on, irons were okay, a short game that was awesome…and I was putting like Watson when he’s off the wine, couldn’t buy a putt. Ask Newell – we ended up playing four rounds together…especially that debacle during the practice-for-the-practice-for-the-practice round at his home course near Pullman But I had a mini-epiphany Friday night – that this was the game I brought, and it’s the one I’m gonna make work. And it did, mostly Third – you gotta get yourself in these situations a few times before you play your best golf. I took a lot of heart from Mike Weir’s Masters win; mostly from being Canadian, but especially because I remember his 81 in the last group at the ‘99 PGA. One of Mike’s favorite media cliches is about "just giving myself the chance". You gotta give yourself the chance. I had a 17-hour drive to think about that on my way down…there’s a certain amount of shock and awe, walking into one of these events. This place takes on myth – listening to us hanging around here, you’d think we were all a bunch of touring pros who just can’t be arsed to waste our time with Fortune and Glory. Guess what? We’re a bunch of golfers, just like the golfers at your club. Our shit still stinks. And just like the golfers at your club, we can be beaten…if you need that kind of motivation. I dunno. I was more excited about meeting everyone than actually playing (although I was excited about that, too). I wanted to play well, but I wanted to make a bunch of friends, too…RSG events are meant to be social, aren’t they? I mean, Christ, we weren’t playing for a million bucks and a five-year exemption into all RSG events…we were playing for a Geiger counter. My favorite memories are after the rounds, just sitting around and talkin’ smack. Enjoy that; the golf will come. Finally, the finest advice ever: organize a beer bash the night before the event starts, and get all the old guys drunk. You’ll be the one that gets the dirty look from a large Texan who says "You obviously didn’t have enough to drink last night." Todd – and a skanky cart girl is always a bonus Prof. Rev. Todd "Runyan" McGillivray, Esq. http://cplhicks.tripod.com/ Emailing me? tmcg at sasktel dot net "Nice out." – Mark Koenig, RSG-NW
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I have a dream. I started reading Rotella again the other day, and he said that all great athletes must have dreams and goals to motivate them. Well, I don’t put myself in the "great athlete" class, or even the "athlete" class, but I do have my goals. One of them is to post a non-sucking score at an RSG event. WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT???
<snip I think there are two issues that affect these kinds of rounds: The first issue is that often people are playing at courses that are unfamiliar to them. I don’t know about others, but I tend to cringe at playing a new course. I like to manage my way around, know where the good spots to lay up are, know where the risk/reward is rewarding and unrewarding, and so on. Sometimes, you don’t know how bad things are behind the green until you see it the first time; unless you know, how do you decide whether to make your error short or long? Sometimes you just can’t know how a green rewards an approach shot by how it looks from 150 yards. It’s why, at RSG-Wisconsin this year, we’ll have a practice round before the tournament round, in hopes to at least familiarize people with the layout enough that they have a decent chance to *score*. Heck, there are so many shots that you just can’t know about unless you’ve seen the course at least once–cutting the corner on doglegs, for instance. And why not? I expect people to have a good time, and scoring well is part of that. And so, to the extent you are playing courses unfamiliar to you, that’s a contributing factor to your performance. The second issue is the mind-games you play with yourself. You want to "show well" at these events (doesn’t everybody? , and that creates extra pressure. I suspect that this self-imposed pressure, in combination with unfamiliarity of the courses, is what is driving you nuts. So if there’s added pressure, you must play the game in such a way to reduce the effect of that pressure. When I’ve played well at RSG events, I’ve stayed within myself. I had a couple low-80s scores at Deer Valley last year during RSG-Wisconsin. Why? I didn’t take too many chances. I played to the middle of the green when possible, I didn’t try too many "hero" shots, I tried to take double out of the equation. It was the first time I’d seen the course, and playing "to the middle" turned out to work pretty well. On Sunday at University Ridge last year, I ballooned big-time to something like 99. Some was the heat (90s and humid), some was being tired after so much golf in so few days, and some was my unfamiliarity with University Ridge (I came away from that round just HATING the course). I got back on May 1 w/ Don Ward and Dave Jakubowsky, and while my putting and short game were HORRIFIC, I did drop my score to an 89 (from the Blues; last year was from the Whites). I played better, but I understood the course better. I’m looking forward to our RSG-W round there this year because my familiarity with the course will allow me to play it better. So my suggestion to you would be simply to stay within yourself. Play the best round you can play that day, playing conservatively when called for, going for it when risk/reward warrants, and trying to take what the course gives you. And to me, that’s the key: Take what the course gives you. If you do that, I’m sure you’ll find your scores coming down to a more enjoyable level. Mike — Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com RSG-Wisconsin 2003 Information: http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2003 RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=daleckim I do not patronize spammers. Help keep RSG clean!
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I have a dream. I started reading Rotella again the other day, and he said that all great athletes must have dreams and goals to motivate them.
I dream like that, too. I dream of playing in the Masters. Unfortunately, I score 77-81 and miss the cut.
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I have a dream. I started reading Rotella again the other day, and he said that all great athletes must have dreams and goals to motivate them. I dream like that, too. I dream of playing in the Masters. Unfortunately, I score 77-81 and miss the cut.
I’d take that dream. — http://rec-sport-golf.com/?rc=hayesd
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I have a dream. I started reading Rotella again the other day, and he said that all great athletes must have dreams and goals to motivate them. Well, I don’t put myself in the "great athlete" class, or even the "athlete" class, but I do have my goals. One of them is to post a non-sucking score at an RSG event. WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT??? << SNIP I usually run into problems at RSG events on the first hole. This time, though, I parred it. It felt good; this time would be different! I remember thinking that just before I took the quad bogey on #2. Eight! Snowman! Dog Balls!
<<SNIP ROFLMAO Ok, that’s not a term I’ve ever heard before. Snowman, sure. Even "side-by-side" threes. But never "dog balls." I’m gonna have to use that one, if you’ll forgive me for laughing at your misery. I’ve been there many a time when playing with guys I play with infrequently and wish I were as good as. I have to say, though, the companionship was a lot better than the golf. The cart girl wasn’t too bad, either, although a bit on the slutty side .
"Slut." Always loved that term. Slut: n., 1)Someone who gets more sex than you. 2) Someone you want to sleep with who doesn’t want to sleep with you. 
Bob Ontario, California Still waiting for someone to ask for help setting up RSG SoCal. I’ll pitch in, but I’m not coordinated to do the whole 9 yards.
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<good advice snipped Of course, a positive mental outlook can be helped by a cute drink girl.
Truer words were never spoken. — bill-o Host of RSG-StL July 11-13, 2003 http://www.geocities.com/billo39206/
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I have to say, though, the companionship was a lot better than the golf. The cart girl wasn’t too bad, either, although a bit on the slutty side .
We’ll need pics !!! Most people fight their nerves in any round that is important to them. You normally aren’t nervous when you’re playing your home course with your normal buds because they’ve all seen you play, seen your good shots and your bad shots, and you really don’t have anything to prove. But joining another group who you want to impress is a whole different ballgame. Your nerves kick in because it is a different situation than what you are used to. The trick is to embrace your nervousness. Being nervous is a good thing, not a bad thing. It means you are going to try your best on every shot, which is about all you can really do. If you can turn some of the nervousness into confidence then you’ll play better. Of course, you have to learn how to do this and the only way I know is to keep exposing yourself to pressure situations. I’ve played in all kinds of tournaments …. club tournaments, state ams, state opens, RSG events, you name it. I’ve lost them all at least once. Sure, I’ve won on rare occasions, but most of the time I lose. Tiger loses over 70% of the tournaments he plays and he’s the best ever, so everybody loses. So forget winning and losing …. you can’t control that anyway. All you can ever control is your preparation and your positive mental outlook when you get on the first tee. Never lose that positive feeling. Think that the next hole is gonna be the best hole you ever played. If you play the game long enough you’ll have streaks where you feel like you can do no wrong. I’ve had birdie streaks of up to 6 holes in a row where I felt like I could beat Tiger Woods. The trick is to capture that feeling and start the round with it on the first tee, and every hole after that. If you stink up a hole, forget it … it’s over. Pretend you just birdied the SOB and go to the next tee thinking birdie. Of course, a positive mental outlook can be helped by a cute drink girl.
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What is a "RSG event" ?
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What is a "RSG event" ?
People who are regulars on Rec.Sport.Golf (RSG) organize golf events all over the place. Most appear to be held in the US, though I’ve seen a few in the UK and in Australia. It’s a way for RSG’ers to get together and golf and have a good time. As an example, check out the RSG-Wisconsin link in my sig below. Mike — Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com RSG-Wisconsin 2003 Information: http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2003 RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=daleckim I do not patronize spammers. Help keep RSG clean!
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I have a dream. I started reading Rotella again the other day, and he said that all great athletes must have dreams and goals to motivate them. Well, I don’t put myself in the "great athlete" class, or even the "athlete" class, but I do have my goals. One of them is to post a non-sucking score at an RSG event. WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT??? I came pretty close on New Year’s Day, when I shot a 90, but that still really sucks. It’s got to be at least in the 80’s to be considered a non-sucking score IMHO. I don’t seem to have problems in other competitions. I took third place gross in the last tournament of the Men’s Club I belong to, with an 8 over par for 18 holes (disclaimer: easy course). I usually run into problems at RSG events on the first hole. This time, though, I parred it. It felt good; this time would be different! I remember thinking that just before I took the quad bogey on #2. Eight! Snowman! Dog Balls! Well, the confidence took a big dip, there. But I managed to patch things back up where I was making mostly bogies due to missed chips and putts, and even managed another par or two. And then came the 400+ yd par 4 #8 hole. After two not very steller efforts I’m still lying 150 yds from the hole, in the fairway. So I think to myself, "a 5 isn’t a bad score for this hole." Little did I know! I promptly pull the shot 30 yds to the left of the hole over by a tree. So as I’m walking over, I see what looks like a ball on the ground, with a pretty good lie and clear shot to the green. Oh, this won’t be so bad, after all. I’ll just pitch it up close and take my 5, or 6 worst case. As I get closer, the ball turns into a piece of white paper. Then I see my ball lying under the tree. Now, this isn’t just some ordinary tree. The tree is quite large, with room for me to walk underneath it, but it is like a weeping willow with branches that hang almost all the way down to the ground. There’s a 2 foot gap between the ground and the branches. The grass under and around the tree is about 4" deep, and my ball is right in the middle of all this. I consider taking an unplayable, but two club lengths would still leave me under the tree, and I wasn’t about to walk 150yds back up the fairway. Besides, I’m the master of disaster; I can escape from anything. So what to do? I have to keep it low, but I’m also hitting out of rough. I probably should have taken my rescue club, but I was afraid that would get the ball up too high, so I take my 3W. My first attempt moved the ball about 6 inches, the second about a foot and a half, and the third finally cleared the tree. A mediocre chip, and 2 putts later I walk off with my 9. Quintuple bogey! The worst score I’ve had on a hole since… Poppy Hills! What do these two events have in common? RSG!!! The back nine was better, but just barely (52 + 47 = 99). My swing sucked all day, I had no feel for hitting chips and pitches out of the rough, and I couldn’t get the speed right on the greens. On the way home, I stopped by my home course and played 9 holes. I started out bogey, double-bogey, but then… birdie! My swing returned, and I started sinking putts. I even chipped in on one hole to save par. Ended up shooting 5 over for nine holes. Not great for this course, but non-sucking (by my standards). So what was different? Well, there’s no denying that the little course I play at most of the time is short and easier, but I’ve managed to post some OK scores from full length courses, so that can’t be the full story. I’m certainly more at home on those greens, too; the weather was a lot cooler for the second round; and the pace of play was reasonable, as opposed to the 5 1/2 hrs we spent earlier in the day. But I think the real reason is obvious. Expectations, pressure, and choking. If I screw up in a club tournament, nobody remembers or cares. Screw up in an RSG event and your score is there in google forever for thousands of unknown strangers to laugh at. I know I’m not helping things by posting my score, but I really can’t make a post like this without the question coming up, so there it is. So what to do about this sorry state of affairs? I know, take it one hole at a time, and focus on performance, not results. Easy to say, hard to do. I think the only viable options are either to quit playing in RSG events, or else to play in so many that they just become commonplace, just like any other round. I’m leaning towards the second option. I have to say, though, the companionship was a lot better than the golf. The cart girl wasn’t too bad, either, although a bit on the slutty side .