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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – have screws on the face? The screws aren’t holding down anything…. Well, they usually did hold something down…the face plate. I’m no physicist but it was made of something considered harder or more danse–epoxy, plastic, etc.–that would give more distance. I’m not so sure that it wasn’t just as much for decoration. Bruce RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/newmanb.htm http://go.to/bruce_newman
I cannot imagine ANY kind of wood sufficiently hard to take the impact of golf balls directly. It seems to me quite reasonable that when hard golf balls became the norm that it was QUITE necessary to use a hard insert to protect the wood from getting all beat up. I know I murdered the toe of many of my old wood clubs from my mis-hits, but the inserts never showed any deterioration from their much more frequent poundings. For the record, I did hit more balls on the face plate than the toe. - a few ( : -) George Hibbard www.perfectimpact.com Pendulum Press
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Must have been that 20 compression ball that you were using!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, but when I hit a golf ball, I literally hit it on all the screws. You see, my swing is so powerful that at the point of impact the ball compressed such that it physically touches all four screws at once.
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The funny part about that old saying is that, if taken literally, it would be that the ball was mishit! Very few clubheads actually had a screw at the sweet spot. They were usually in some sort of array *around* the sweet spot – such as a diamond shape. I’ve seen a few that had the screws on a horiziotal line across the center of the face, so one of those might have been on the sweetspot – but I doubt it.
Yes, but when I hit a golf ball, I literally hit it on all the screws. You see, my swing is so powerful that at the point of impact the ball compressed such that it physically touches all four screws at once.
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I don’t know. Um, perhaps because otherwise the saying "he really hit that one on the screws" would been meaningless? Tim T – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – have screws on the face? The screws aren’t holding down anything….
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The funny part about that old saying is that, if taken literally, it would be that the ball was mishit! Very few clubheads actually had a screw at the sweet spot. They were usually in some sort of array *around* the sweet spot – such as a diamond shape. I’ve seen a few that had the screws on a horiziotal line across the center of the face, so one of those might have been on the sweetspot – but I doubt it. I’ve never heard anyone say " I really hit that one on the point that would be the intersection of the lines scribed between the horizontally and vertically oriented screws!". I suppose that would be too geeky, even for golfers 
— Joe Cartpath – www.joecartpath.com Basic Golf Clubmaking & Memphis Area Golf Course Guide
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know. Um, perhaps because otherwise the saying "he really hit that one on the screws" would been meaningless? Tim T have screws on the face? The screws aren’t holding down anything….
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Used to: They used to hold down a laminated "extra strong & wear resistant" face plate to the body of the driver. [made of various materials over time]. There were 4 of them around the sweet spot, hence, the expression, "He hit that one between the screws." [ie, very well] The plates were, on some drivers, replaceable after they wore down. The screws were also used when laminated maple heads were created – they helped keep the laminate together.
How would they hold the laminate together? They are inserted on the same plane as the layers of wood, parallel to the glue joints. — Eliyahu Rooff www.geocities.com/Area51/Underworld/8096/HomePage.htm RSG Rollcall http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/rooffe.htm
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have screws on the face? The screws aren’t holding down anything…. Well, they usually did hold something down…the face plate. I’m no physicist but it was made of something considered harder or more danse–epoxy, plastic, etc.–that would give more distance. I’m not so sure that it wasn’t just as much for decoration. Bruce
The inserts were I believe, more dense and harder composite than just persimmon, however your point on decoration is well taken. Some of the inserts were a real work of art. David — RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm
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Used to: They used to hold down a laminated "extra strong & wear resistant" face plate to the body of the driver. [made of various materials over time]. There were 4 of them around the sweet spot, hence, the expression, "He hit that one between the screws." [ie, very well] The plates were, on some drivers, replaceable after they wore down. The screws were also used when laminated maple heads were created – they helped keep the laminate together.
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I imagine in the earlier days of inserts, the screws actually *did* serve the function of holding the insert into place. In later years, modern epoxy was sufficient to retain the insert – you’ll see quite a few later clubs that did not have face screws. At that point, the screws were more or less for decoration. — Joe Cartpath, Ancient Clubmaker – www.joecartpath.com Basic Golf Clubmaking & Memphis Area Golf Course Guide
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – have screws on the face? The screws aren’t holding down anything…. Well, they usually did hold something down…the face plate. I’m no physicist but it was made of something considered harder or more danse–epoxy, plastic, etc.–that would give more distance. I’m not so sure that it wasn’t just as much for decoration. Bruce The inserts were I believe, more dense and harder composite than just persimmon, however your point on decoration is well taken. Some of the inserts were a real work of art. David — RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm
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Usually the scews held the plastic/composite insert in the middle of the wooden face. I still have a driver built for me 35 years ago that has no insert – a plain wood face. David — RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/sneddond.htm
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have screws on the face? The screws aren’t holding down anything….
Well, they usually did hold something down…the face plate. I’m no physicist but it was made of something considered harder or more danse–epoxy, plastic, etc.–that would give more distance. I’m not so sure that it wasn’t just as much for decoration. Bruce RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/newmanb.htm http://go.to/bruce_newman