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Most of the courses I play around the Toronto area have also removed the water jugs. However, most of them have also reduced the cost of a bottle of water. I played a course yesterday that sold water in the club house and on the cart for 50 cents a bottle. Most of the courses reduced the cost to 1 dollar but 50 cents was reasonable. I don’t think selling water was a huge factor. If you think about this reasonably (unlike many of these posts on this subject) if the golf course supplies you with water then they are legally responsible for the quality of the water and therefore a huge insurance risk. If they don’t supply free water then there is no insurance risk at all. If you go anywhere like a ballgame and don’t drink and collapse from lack of fluids, the baseball team are not responsible. It was your choice not to drink. Why does everyone think that the golf course should supply water for free. I think their only responsiblity is to make sure you can get it even if it means buying it. I don’t think they have a responsibility to make sure you have free water. If you go to the beach and don’t drink is the government responsible if you colaspe? NO! Just my thoughts. Bruce
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently played at a new course in Ohio called Boulder Creek. Its got a great layout and will be a terrific overall course in a couple of years when the greens mature. It was a hot day and you can imagine my surprise when I got to the first water cooler and found a sign saying that due to Ohio Health code they could no longer provide water to golfers. When I made the turn the manager told me that since they couldn’t sanitize coolers the health department told them they couldn’t put water in coolers on the course. Of course they had plenty of water available at the clubhouse for $1.75 a pint. I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water? I know of no other course in Ohio with the same policy. Any thoughts? Ed PS The irony is a few of my golf balls drowned in the lakes surrounding two
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I haven’t found many courses here that have iced water around the course. You either buy a bottle from the pro shop/drinks cart, or just use the drinking fountains around the course. Most town water conforms to WHO standards, it might just be a little warm in summer.
Around here, virtually ALL of them have iced water available. Some even have water on the cars the marshalls ride around in. I played on one last week that had the coolers – and 3 refrigerated drinking fountains at the bathrooms.
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<<Do any of your courses just have ordinary piped town water from a drinking fountain? That’s the way they do it at my local muni (Rockledge, West Hartford, CT). The have good old drinking fountains just like we had in grade school.
Hey, you play Rockledge? My GF’s parents live a mile away from there — I’m eventually going to play against her two brothers, "Crusher" and "Low-Blow", in the "Rumble at Rockledge". Maybe I could hire you as a random walk-on fourth for the group and you could sabatoge their play . . . Doug — ___, Doug Massey, ASIC Digital Logic Designer o IBM Microelectronics Division, Burlington, Vermont | | Phone: (802)769-7095 t/l: 446-7095 fax: x6752 | / | . My homepage: http://doug.obscurestuff.com (|)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently played at a new course in Ohio called Boulder Creek. Its got a great layout and will be a terrific overall course in a couple of years when the greens mature. It was a hot day and you can imagine my surprise when I got to the first water cooler and found a sign saying that due to Ohio Health code they could no longer provide water to golfers. When I made the turn the manager told me that since they couldn’t sanitize coolers the health department told them they couldn’t put water in coolers on the course. Of course they had plenty of water available at the clubhouse for $1.75 a pint. I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water? I know of no other course in Ohio with the same policy. Any thoughts?
It’s the same thing at our country club. I freeze a couple of bottles of water the night before I tee off and throw them in the bag.
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There was a case (or two?) last year in Arizona where a couple of golfers contracted some virus from contaminated water on the course. In light of that, the Natl Golf Course Owners Assoc recommended to their members that water jugs should be removed from the course. It is more a liability issue, although increased revenue from water sales no doubt plays a part in the decision making.
Dehydration is a much bigger danger, especially in the West. One bottle of water is not sufficient, and someone will get real sick – and sue a course that no longer supplies water.
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Sounds to me like a convenient way to "sell" bottled water.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently played at a new course in Ohio called Boulder Creek. Its got a great layout and will be a terrific overall course in a couple of years when the greens mature. It was a hot day and you can imagine my surprise when I got to the first water cooler and found a sign saying that due to Ohio Health code they could no longer provide water to golfers. When I made the turn the manager told me that since they couldn’t sanitize coolers the health department told them they couldn’t put water in coolers on the course. Of course they had plenty of water available at the clubhouse for $1.75 a pint. I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water? I know of no other course in Ohio with the same policy. Any thoughts? Ed PS The irony is a few of my golf balls drowned in the lakes surrounding two
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If you play there again, bring your own, if they say something about it, tell them to go straight to hell. Water kicks ass. Read this page. I’m not affiliated with this guy, but what he says is an eye opener. http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/articles/water.html tim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently played at a new course in Ohio called Boulder Creek. Its got a great layout and will be a terrific overall course in a couple of years when the greens mature. It was a hot day and you can imagine my surprise when I got to the first water cooler and found a sign saying that due to Ohio Health code they could no longer provide water to golfers. When I made the turn the manager told me that since they couldn’t sanitize coolers the health department told them they couldn’t put water in coolers on the course. Of course they had plenty of water available at the clubhouse for $1.75 a pint. I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water? I know of no other course in Ohio with the same policy. Any thoughts? Ed PS The irony is a few of my golf balls drowned in the lakes surrounding two
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This is what they do at the semi private that I play at, they did however cut the price of water from $2 to $1. I take my own 2L bottle and get ice from the booze buggy. mark from muskoka
<<Do any of your courses just have ordinary piped town water from a drinking fountain? That’s the way they do it at my local muni (Rockledge, West Hartford, CT). The have good old drinking fountains just like we had in grade school. Lee
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That used to be common in Atlantic Canada, Colin, as well as many other places I’ve played. Water was distributed from the municipal system or, more likely, from a well on club property. Over the last twenty years or so, I’ve seen much fewer fountains and many more insulated jugs. In the last few years, nearly all these jugs have disappeared and have been replaced by bottled water, available in the clubhouse or from the cart girl. I realize there are sanitation concerns and I am also aware of the revenue potential for clubs, but I’ve often wondered about liability (not to mention basic customer service) for allowing people to play under hot summer conditions without access to a drink. A lot of people don’t want to (or can’t) fork over $2 for a simple gulp of water. I haven’t been charged for water in a restaurant…yet, but maybe that’s next. 
My course only *put in* a few drinking fountains about three or four years ago. We were concerned about golfers dehydrating in summer. We had to put in about a kilometre and a half (a mile) of black underground poly pipe to take water from the course mains entry point to fountains on the 1st, 3rd, 5th/8th, 6th/18th, 11th and 15th tees. It is just fed by Trentham town water. The only downside was a slight "plastic" taste for a few months after it was put in. Most courses I’ve played in Melbourne have the same system using Melbourne town water, the same as drinking fountains in parks and gardens. Since the water is purified and chlorinated, I can’t see a health problem, only a preference one. It’s hard to believe that in a first-world country with high health standards, people can get so fussy about water. As for me, in summer I take bottles of "pure rainwater" from my own tank … chilled or frozen in the fridge overnight. — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
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This happened on my home course but it was temporary. The installation safety office (it’s on a Navy base) test some of the water and declared it unsafe. We had to supply our own water for a couple of days. Do any of your courses just have ordinary piped town water from a drinking fountain?
There’s two drinking fountains on my course, and two restrooms with sinks and city water. You can get to one of these water sources about every three or four holes. Dave
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In rec.sport.golf Any thoughts? Sure, I remember the time I got explosive diarhea from a golf course water jug filled with a hose by some pimply faced kid that doesn’t wash his hands after picking up balls, driving carts and taking a dump. Screw that, $1.75 is cheap insurance.
He did wash his hands! From the hose while he filling your jug, probably…
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In rec.sport.golf Any thoughts? Sure, I remember the time I got explosive diarhea from a golf course water jug filled with a hose by some pimply faced kid that doesn’t wash his hands after picking up balls, driving carts and taking a dump. Screw that, $1.75 is cheap insurance.
He did wash his hands! From the hose while he was filling your jug, probably…
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Drink course provided water at your own risk. Even at private courses I NEVER trust it. Explosive decompression is never pleasant on a golf course. I freeze two small bottles of water and take those with me. They seem to defrost about as soon as I need to drink them. Ignore the signs that say you can’t bring anything onto the course you didn’t buy there. That’s bogus and probably illegal. —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—
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I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water?
Only one of 5 different courses I’ve been to this year had water on the course, all the rest had removed it (I’m north of the border). One doesn’t even have the snack cart…so if yu don’t load up before you tee off it’s tough luck. I think the courses are using the Arizona incident as a lame excuse…more people are probably killed in cart accidents but I don’t see them removing carts…
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This happened on my home course but it was temporary. The installation safety office (it’s on a Navy base) test some of the water and declared it unsafe. We had to supply our own water for a couple of days. Do any of your courses just have ordinary piped town water from a drinking fountain?
That used to be common in Atlantic Canada, Colin, as well as many other places I’ve played. Water was distributed from the municipal system or, more likely, from a well on club property. Over the last twenty years or so, I’ve seen much fewer fountains and many more insulated jugs. In the last few years, nearly all these jugs have disappeared and have been replaced by bottled water, available in the clubhouse or from the cart girl. I realize there are sanitation concerns and I am also aware of the revenue potential for clubs, but I’ve often wondered about liability (not to mention basic customer service) for allowing people to play under hot summer conditions without access to a drink. A lot of people don’t want to (or can’t) fork over $2 for a simple gulp of water. I haven’t been charged for water in a restaurant…yet, but maybe that’s next. Bruce Bruce E. Newman * Fredericton, NB, Canada http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=newmanb info at benewman dot bizland dot com * http://go.to/bruce_newman
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I recently played at a new course in Ohio called Boulder Creek. Its got a great layout and will be a terrific overall course in a couple of years when the greens mature. It was a hot day and you can imagine my surprise when I got to the first water cooler and found a sign saying that due to Ohio Health code they could no longer provide water to golfers. When I made the turn the manager told me that since they couldn’t sanitize coolers the health department told them they couldn’t put water in coolers on the course. Of course they had plenty of water available at the clubhouse for $1.75 a pint. I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water? I know of no other course in Ohio with the same policy. Any thoughts?
The staff is lazy. Cleaning a water jug with a bleach solution will kill just about anything that can make you sick. If they use a filter on the hose that they fill the jugs with it’s double insurance and not a problem. I bring my own water and use the jug water to wet a towel for cleaning clubs. Most times a clean towel soaked with jug ice water goes around my neck to help me survive the back 9. — Golfing in Arizona.
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<<Do any of your courses just have ordinary piped town water from a drinking fountain? That’s the way they do it at my local muni (Rockledge, West Hartford, CT). The have good old drinking fountains just like we had in grade school. Lee
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That’s the way they do it at my local muni (Rockledge, West Hartford, CT). The have good old drinking fountains just like we had in grade school.
I haven’t found many courses here that have iced water around the course. You either buy a bottle from the pro shop/drinks cart, or just use the drinking fountains around the course. Most town water conforms to WHO standards, it might just be a little warm in summer. — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
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Do any of your courses just have ordinary piped town water from a drinking fountain?
i never like drinking from course fountains. the water always taste very minurally. URGH!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently played at a new course in Ohio called Boulder Creek. Its got a great layout and will be a terrific overall course in a couple of years when the greens mature. It was a hot day and you can imagine my surprise when I got to the first water cooler and found a sign saying that due to Ohio Health code they could no longer provide water to golfers. When I made the turn the manager told me that since they couldn’t sanitize coolers the health department told them they couldn’t put water in coolers on the course. Of course they had plenty of water available at the clubhouse for $1.75 a pint. I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water? I know of no other course in Ohio with the same policy. Any thoughts? Ed PS The irony is a few of my golf balls drowned in the lakes surrounding two There was a case (or two?) last year in Arizona where a couple of golfers contracted some virus from contaminated water on the course. In light of that, the Natl Golf Course Owners Assoc recommended to their members that water jugs should be removed from the course. It is more a liability issue, although increased revenue from water sales no doubt plays a part in the decision making. David
Link to story of Arizona HS player’s death: http://www.ahwatukee.com/afn/community/articles/021108f.html Jay Beckman Chandler, AZ
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I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water?
This happened on my home course but it was temporary. The installation safety office (it’s on a Navy base) test some of the water and declared it unsafe. We had to supply our own water for a couple of days. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org RSG Roll Call http://www.rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=claryd
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This happened on my home course but it was temporary. The installation safety office (it’s on a Navy base) test some of the water and declared it unsafe. We had to supply our own water for a couple of days.
Do any of your courses just have ordinary piped town water from a drinking fountain? — Cheers Colin Wilson RSG Roll Call: http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=wilsonc Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
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In rec.sport.golf Any thoughts?
Sure, I remember the time I got explosive diarhea from a golf course water jug filled with a hose by some pimply faced kid that doesn’t wash his hands after picking up balls, driving carts and taking a dump. Screw that, $1.75 is cheap insurance.
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I recently played at a new course in Ohio called Boulder Creek. Its got a great layout and will be a terrific overall course in a couple of years when the greens mature. It was a hot day and you can imagine my surprise when I got to the first water cooler and found a sign saying that due to Ohio Health code they could no longer provide water to golfers. When I made the turn the manager told me that since they couldn’t sanitize coolers the health department told them they couldn’t put water in coolers on the course. Of course they had plenty of water available at the clubhouse for $1.75 a pint. I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water? I know of no other course in Ohio with the same policy. Any thoughts? Ed PS The irony is a few of my golf balls drowned in the lakes surrounding two
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently played at a new course in Ohio called Boulder Creek. Its got a great layout and will be a terrific overall course in a couple of years when the greens mature. It was a hot day and you can imagine my surprise when I got to the first water cooler and found a sign saying that due to Ohio Health code they could no longer provide water to golfers. When I made the turn the manager told me that since they couldn’t sanitize coolers the health department told them they couldn’t put water in coolers on the course. Of course they had plenty of water available at the clubhouse for $1.75 a pint. I wonder if this is for real or just another way to take a few more dollars out of everyone’s pocket? What would happen if someone died of heat stroke because they couldn’t find water? I know of no other course in Ohio with the same policy. Any thoughts? Ed PS The irony is a few of my golf balls drowned in the lakes surrounding two
There was a case (or two?) last year in Arizona where a couple of golfers contracted some virus from contaminated water on the course. In light of that, the Natl Golf Course Owners Assoc recommended to their members that water jugs should be removed from the course. It is more a liability issue, although increased revenue from water sales no doubt plays a part in the decision making. David Hi-Tech Turf – Synthetic Turf Applications RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members?rollcall=sneddond email: dsneddon AT cogeco DOT ca