Question:
The 10.5* loft is non-conforming. The other lofts are fine at this time! Bill PA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – George, I am really curious to know who pays the extyremely high cost for drivers that 1) have a 2 percent additional "kick" due to the hardness of their surface; and 2) why the USGA allows the golf industry to worry about the absolutely minimal difference between the maximum physically achievable bounce of a club (no material is 100% elastic, as any high school physics pupil knows )– use of the "trampoline" word or "springlike effect" is euphemistic for the difference between the amount of efficiency of the rebound from clubs made before some of these newer metals. The cost situation is changing. You can buy a non-comforming "hot" driver (Integra 400cc) fitted with a graphite shaft for less than $100. Kenny Kenny Stultz RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm
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Only the 400cc Integra is banned. The 320 is legal. Here’s the list of banned clubs. http://usga.org/press/list_of_clubs.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Really? Am I the only one here who didn’t know that? <<as he sheepishly looks around The Integra IV is a 320 cc Forged Titanium head that probably has a thin face, since it’s banned by the USGA
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The Integra IV has not been banned, but the Integra 400cc has been.
I’ll take your word for it. I got that from M&M Golf’s website when giving some info to a person who asked about the Integra IV & C2.
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See Bill’s response to me. The only Integra driver on the USGA’s non-conforming list (http://www.usga.com/press/list_of_clubs.html) is the 10.5* Integra 400cc. Kenny says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Integra IV has not been banned, but the Integra 400cc has been. I’ll take your word for it. I got that from M&M Golf’s website when giving some info to a person who asked about the Integra IV & C2.
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Really? Am I the only one here who didn’t know that? <<as he sheepishly looks around
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Integra IV is a 320 cc Forged Titanium head that probably has a thin face, since it’s banned by the USGA
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I don’t think so. It’s not on the non-conforming list on the USGA web site.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Really? Am I the only one here who didn’t know that? <<as he sheepishly looks around The Integra IV is a 320 cc Forged Titanium head that probably has a thin face, since it’s banned by the USGA
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George, I am really curious to know who pays the extyremely high cost for drivers that 1) have a 2 percent additional "kick" due to the hardness of their surface; and 2) why the USGA allows the golf industry to worry about the absolutely minimal difference between the maximum physically achievable bounce of a club (no material is 100% elastic, as any high school physics pupil knows )– use of the "trampoline" word or "springlike effect" is euphemistic for the difference between the amount of efficiency of the rebound from clubs made before some of these newer metals.
The cost situation is changing. You can buy a non-comforming "hot" driver (Integra 400cc) fitted with a graphite shaft for less than $100. Kenny Kenny Stultz RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm
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The Integra IV has not been banned, but the Integra 400cc has been. See http://www.usga.com/press/list_of_clubs.html Kenny says… The Integra IV is a 320 cc Forged Titanium head that probably has a thin face, since it’s banned by the USGA. The C2, however, is a 280 cc beta Titanium head and I believe it’s USGA legal. The C2 is one of Integra’s Ion-Plating heads and was used by the winner of the World Long-Drive contest (Viktor Johansson). The C2 costs nearly twice what the Integra IV costs, but is probably worth it. I mean if a guy uses it for the long drive competition, it must be good. Those guys don’t make much $$ outside of that competition (except maybe Jason Zuback).
Kenny Stultz RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm
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I think you are incorrect. I have not seen anything; USGA or otherwise that tht IV is non-conforming! Bill PA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Integra IV is a 320 cc Forged Titanium head that probably has a thin face, since it’s banned by the USGA. The C2, however, is a 280 cc beta Titanium head and I believe it’s USGA legal. The C2 is one of Integra’s Ion-Plating heads and was used by the winner of the World Long-Drive contest (Viktor Johansson). The C2 costs nearly twice what the Integra IV costs, but is probably worth it. I mean if a guy uses it for the long drive competition, it must be good. Those guys don’t make much $$ outside of that competition (except maybe Jason Zuback).
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I am really curious to know who pays the extyremely high cost for drivers that 1) have a 2 percent additional "kick" due to the hardness of their surface; and 2) why the USGA allows the golf industry to worry about the absolutely minimal difference between the maximum physically achievable bounce of a club (no material is 100% elastic, as any high school physics pupil knows )– use of the "trampoline" word or "springlike effect" is euphemistic for the difference between the amount of efficiency of the rebound from clubs made before some of these newer metals. If you DO have anything with greater than 100% coi (coefficient of restitution), I have someone interested in an IPO and a couple of attorney friends… The stupidity of the whole circus is just beyond me. If the USGA needs to control distance, for heaven sake why don’t they lower the ball coi requirement instead; they already DO manage the golf balls in this manner. The R&A at least is sensible about it. I’m under the impression this is JNicklaus’ opinion on it too (?). But who the hell is he to say anything anyway! Maybe he didn’t pay his USGA dues last year…. Matter of fact, as I write this it occurs to me: someone there is saving face. A bit like the prosecuting attorney being interviewed as to why he won’t cooperate with the defense lawyers to get his obviously wrongly convicted client out of jail: "Even if the guy is not guilty, he is guilty. Because the system says he is guilty. don’t bother me with facts." George
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Integra IV is a 320 cc Forged Titanium head that probably has a thin face, since it’s banned by the USGA. The C2, however, is a 280 cc beta Titanium head and I believe it’s USGA legal. The C2 is one of Integra’s Ion-Plating heads and was used by the winner of the World Long-Drive contest (Viktor Johansson). The C2 costs nearly twice what the Integra IV costs, but is probably worth it. I mean if a guy uses it for the long drive competition, it must be good. Those guys don’t make much $$ outside of that competition (except maybe Jason Zuback).
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The Integra IV is a 320 cc Forged Titanium head that probably has a thin face, since it’s banned by the USGA. The C2, however, is a 280 cc beta Titanium head and I believe it’s USGA legal. The C2 is one of Integra’s Ion-Plating heads and was used by the winner of the World Long-Drive contest (Viktor Johansson). The C2 costs nearly twice what the Integra IV costs, but is probably worth it. I mean if a guy uses it for the long drive competition, it must be good. Those guys don’t make much $$ outside of that competition (except maybe Jason Zuback).