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amount of serendipity as those of the past, and Woods seems to me to be extremely intolerant of seredipitous events.

IMHO i see it as the opposite.  Woods is handles these things *better* than most PGA tour players.     He has handled conditions in Australia &  England reasonably well with good results considering his limited experience in these places and his upbringing on manicured courses.   Fore Right!,            Mark Fairway: [faer-wai] "An unfamiliar tract of mown grass running directly from tee to the green. Your ball can usually be found immediately to the left or right of it."

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Todays players may have better swings, but they don’t know how to play the game as well..except maybe for Duval. Wonder how well Woods in particular would do on 1950s type 7200 yard courses?

just curious,  why do you say that?     what is the difference between courses then and now. Fore Right!,            Mark Fairway: [faer-wai] "An unfamiliar tract of mown grass running directly from tee to the green. Your ball can usually be found immediately to the left or right of it."

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PGA Tour courses are perfectly manicured. Greens and fairways are relatively very fast and run very true. 1950’s era courses had much slower bumpier greens. Much slower fairways (very little roll on drives) where there was grass, and places where the ball would roll and roll; burned out areas etc. There are also factors like material to be found in bunkers as well! Rob Todays players may have better swings, but they don’t know how to play the game as well..except maybe for Duval. Wonder how well Woods in particular would do on 1950s type 7200 yard courses? just curious,  why do you say that?     what is the difference between courses then and now. Fore Right!,            Mark Fairway: [faer-wai] "An unfamiliar tract of mown grass running directly from tee to the green. Your ball can usually be found immediately to the left or right of it."

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Todays players may have better swings, but they don’t know how to play the game as well..except maybe for Duval. Wonder how well Woods in particular would do on 1950s type 7200 yard courses?

Huh?  First, 7200 yard courses in the 50’s were a lot rarer than they are now.  Courses are growning in length where they can and newly designed courses usually have a set of championship tees which are quite long.  Second, without exception ALL the living legends are quite impressed with the way the current crop of superstars play.  Nelson, Snead, Palmer, Nicklaus, Casper, Watson…have frequently expressed their admiration for the quality of today’s play. It is true that many of the courses these days are in better condition but that’s only a small part of the excellence displayed by today’s PGA tour players. BDW

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Rob, your answer is not quite the question i asked :-) to be more specific, my question is Why does the writer wonder about Tigers ability to play those courses, and not wonder about Duval. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PGA Tour courses are perfectly manicured. Greens and fairways are relatively very fast and run very true. 1950’s era courses had much slower bumpier greens. Much slower fairways (very little roll on drives) where there was grass, and places where the ball would roll and roll; burned out areas etc. There are also factors like material to be found in bunkers as well! Rob Todays players may have better swings, but they don’t know how to play the game as well..except maybe for Duval. Wonder how well Woods in particular would do on 1950s type 7200 yard courses? just curious,  why do you say that?     what is the difference between courses then and now. Fore Right!,            Mark Fairway: [faer-wai] "An unfamiliar tract of mown grass running directly from tee to the green. Your ball can usually be found immediately to the left or right of it."

Fore Right!,            Mark Fairway: [faer-wai] "An unfamiliar tract of mown grass running directly from tee to the green. Your ball can usually be found immediately to the left or right of it."

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As the writer….Woods is impatient with the game and expects everything to be perfect. 30 years ago, PGA touring pros got the same weird bounces on greens and fairways as the rest of us, except when we pay to play on manicured courses. The other day I hit a nice drive that landed on a pine cone and bounced straight left into the woods. You would never see such a thing in a PGA Tour event. You never see funny bounces on greens in PGA tour events. Todays golf balls are far truer than those of 30 years ago (remember those old balata balls?). In short, todays PGA tour golfers do not have to contend with the same amount of serendipity as those of the past, and Woods seems to me to be extremely intolerant of seredipitous events. Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Rob, your answer is not quite the question i asked :-) to be more specific, my question is Why does the writer wonder about Tigers ability to play those courses, and not wonder about Duval. PGA Tour courses are perfectly manicured. Greens and fairways are relatively very fast and run very true. 1950’s era courses had much slower bumpier greens. Much slower fairways (very little roll on drives) where there was grass, and places where the ball would roll and roll; burned out areas etc. There are also factors like material to be found in bunkers as well! Rob Todays players may have better swings, but they don’t know how to play the game as well..except maybe for Duval. Wonder how well Woods in particular would do on 1950s type 7200 yard courses? just curious,  why do you say that?     what is the difference between courses then and now. Fore Right!,            Mark Fairway: [faer-wai] "An unfamiliar tract of mown grass running directly from tee to the green. Your ball can usually be found immediately to the left or right of it." Fore Right!,           Mark Fairway: [faer-wai] "An unfamiliar tract of mown grass running directly from tee to the green. Your ball can usually be found immediately to the left or right of it."

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The History Channel ran a two hour History of Golf tonight.  I didn’t get to see all of it but what I did see was pretty good.  I’ll watch the tape later after the kids are in bed.  It will be repeated later tonight and on Sunday. Happy Easter everyone. — David Lawson     A Golfer

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It was very cool.  I also saw a special about golf and scottland.. it was very cool also.. anyone have the Golf Channel?  I am thinking of getting digital cable .. since it comes with the Golf Channel?  Please advise. BIGdaddy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The History Channel ran a two hour History of Golf tonight.  I didn’t get to see all of it but what I did see was pretty good.  I’ll watch the tape later after the kids are in bed.  It will be repeated later tonight and on Sunday. Happy Easter everyone. — David Lawson     A Golfer

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The History Channel ran a two hour History of Golf tonight.  I didn’t get to see all of it but what I did see was pretty good.  I’ll watch the tape later after the kids are in bed.  It will be repeated later tonight and on Sunday. Happy Easter everyone. — David Lawson    A Golfer

You can buy the tape for 20 bucks Gary Player states that the top 3 of about 1950..Hogan, Sneed and Nelson…are better than the top 3 today, which are Duval, Woods and O’Meara. I agree. Todays players may have better swings, but they don’t know how to play the game as well..except maybe for Duval. Wonder how well Woods in particular would do on 1950s type 7200 yard courses? Rob.

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I agree… Unfortunately it would have been near impossible for Tiger to play then. It is very difficult to compare today…to the past..it is done ..but I believe it is a fine line…that I dont believe many can draw… I am a BIG David Duval Fan…. BIG D … .Masters!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The History Channel ran a two hour History of Golf tonight.  I didn’t get to see all of it but what I did see was pretty good.  I’ll watch the tape later after the kids are in bed.  It will be repeated later tonight and on Sunday. Happy Easter everyone. — David Lawson    A Golfer You can buy the tape for 20 bucks Gary Player states that the top 3 of about 1950..Hogan, Sneed and Nelson…are better than the top 3 today, which are Duval, Woods and O’Meara. I agree. Todays players may have better swings, but they don’t know how to play the game as well..except maybe for Duval. Wonder how well Woods in particular would do on 1950s type 7200 yard courses? Rob.

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