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OT: Question of the day…. 8/25/06

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8/25/06 Today`s question is being brought to you by one of our very own anon posters  :)   What is the most unusual wedding cake you`ve ever eaten or seen? Describe it. Jackie ~*~I`m an angel! Honest :) The horns are just there to keep my halo up straight~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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8/25/06 Today`s question is being brought to you by one of our very own anon posters  :) What is the most unusual wedding cake you`ve ever eaten or seen? Describe it.

My best friend’s new husband is an avid golfer.  The groom’s cake looked like a bucket of golf balls.  It was a cake, of course, but it looked very real.  I wish I had a picture to show you.  I had never seen anything like it. Vicki — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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John was right

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don`t know whether you are able to work or not. Only you can answer that. I talked to God about this last night. (It was my one moment of emotional peace and quiet.) I just can’t work. Just because I do absolutely zero all day long doesn’t mean I’m lazy or anything. I’m in a lot of pain, and every day is a real struggle. I really hate living. Well, not living, but living on Earth, in this day and age. I keep thinking if I find a great woman, that’ll make things better, but seeing as I’m one step above bed-ridden, I have nothing to offer these potential Aphrodites, other than love, which isn’t enough. I don’t want to lower my standards, which are high, but then I sort of have to, because there aren’t any takers. So salvation through love is out. There’s my writing, but I don’t know what to write about. I’ve been in writer’s block since my teens. I want to write a great novel, and don’t have the skills. I should write every day to improve them, but I absolutely detest my own work. There’s always something wrong with it. It’s like I want to write without having a voice, but that’s impossible. OTOH, there is a voice in me, that I can’t find, and thus can’t express myself, because I’m worried that all I really have to say is a big, 64 pt swear word, with lots of exclamation points. Then there’s money. I have none of that, and as long as I can get some food in me every day, that’s fine … but all I do is spend my money on food. About all of it, actually, minus bills. Food is so damned expensive, and I’m *way* below the poverty line here on disability. What if I could afford a car? What if I could afford a house? What if I could afford to travel? You know. Stuff like that. Plus, I would be able to bring something to the Aphroditic table, as it were, and some wonderful soul of a woman would take me home with her, or rather let me take her to my own palatial, um, palace, because that’s what everyone wants. Or sort of. What does all this mean? There is no hope. My only hope is to get a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to sit and do nothing. Or else get put on medical marijuana for life, and sit here, do nothing, and just laugh about it. But neither of those things are going to happen, despite Bill having gotten $37bn for his foundation from William Buffet today, considered the largest single donation in American history. That was the high point of my day, actually, to see such a wonderful thing in the news. Not because I’d get even a cent of that money, but because it meant that somewhere on this planet there was righteousness, mercy, love. If the world felt better, I would feel better. But this world is full of violence and hatred, prejudice, poverty, and overall terrible suffering … which seems to send its painful vibes my way. Oy vey, what can be done? Nothing, I guess. Sorry to have rambled. You can tell I’m lonely for talk, and could rattle on like this for two more screens. Hope you’re well, and thanks for listening. Ian

Ian, I can relate to many of your issues.  You’re not alone and at least you can always express yourself here. kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I am so sorry your friend did this to you.  He should be ashamed.  I truly hope you are not.

No, I handled it okay. It was creepy, but I got it over with. I told him he had to leave, end of story. Never saw him again. It was one of the only times I’d ever been hit on, and my luck it had to be a guy. :-( Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some of you may know my old friend John. Well, actually, that’s not true. None of you do. We had an eventful last night as friends. He hit on me in a very forceful manner, which I won’t describe, and I told him I was going on disability (this was in ‘94). He got very angry, and told me I’d get fat and sit around all the time. Well, I never heard from him after that. My not wanting to sleep with a guy pretty much sealed that door. But he was right about the disability. I’m weak, folks. I’m weak. Not mentally. I’m very strong mentally. I’m very strong in my beliefs and convictions, and my knowledge. Sitting in front of the computer 24/7 for years has taught me more than 6 yrs of the nightmare that was college ever could. But I’m physically weak, and I’m emotionally weak, and that means I can’t get a job. It may not be fair. I was working right up to the point I got on disability. True, I called in sick a lot, and hated every second of it, but most minimum wage workers feel the same way about *their* jobs. But I found out that being psychotic, I could get on disability, and sure enough it was as easy as filling out the forms. Being in a few psych wards kind of greases the skids there. John was right. Disability weakened me. It gave me the time off to mature as a person, which has pretty much saved my life. In 1995 I had my stomach pumped three times because of pill overdoses, I was in jail, in two psych wards, in a group home, and all immediately after leaving college with *one class to go* because I had spent my rent money on drugs. If I hadn’t had the time to reassess my situation, I would be dead today. None of you would be reading this (and, as far as I know, none of you are). What am I saying? The mind wanders. I guess it’s 2.30 am, no one’s up to talk to, I’m dying to unload, and so once again I write what someone on here called horseshit, but hey, those horses have to shit sometimes. I don’t know what to do. I can’t get out of this chair, because the pain I feel is non-stop. I’m constantly exhausted. Right now I feel like I can’t even write this, yet I can’t sleep, I can’t make coffee, I can’t write, I can’t listen to music. When you can’t even muster the strength to *sit down and entertain yourself* that’s exhaustion. That’s where I’m at, and where I’ve been at for yrs. I hope someone out there knows what the hell I’m talking about. I’m drained, and there isn’t much hope, but I’m going to keep on pushing anyway, on the off-chance that I get out of this. Thanks for listening, ASAPM, yet again. Ian

Find something that you can dedicate some of that free time to.  There are a lot of Open Source projects that could use help with writing documentation, art work, web design, even programming.  Wikipedia needs tons of volunteer proof readers and researchers.  There is project Gutenburg that could use help with getting books out for public consumption.  If you have a decent speaking voice you can volunteer your time to read a book or even just a chapter of books to make audio books for Project Gutenberg or LibriVox. I think feeling a sense of requirement or dedication to a project/task can really help in motivation.  Taking that first step is hardest.  Find something small you can volunteer your time to.  Even if it is 1 hour a day or 1 hour every other day.  It will still give you something to focus your energies on. Jim —          _|/_          (o o) |  You roll an 18 in Dex and see if you  | |  don’t end up with a girlfriend        | |  JimD – Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol    | — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Living with depressed humans would be a complete waste of time if it weren’t for the food and the head scratching. Yeah, I know, and I’m going back to sleep, and probably won’t feed her her Fancy Feast until I wake up, which drives her nuts. She’s addicted to that stuff. Lots of fat and protein, designed, it would seem, for the sole purpose of driving cats insane with desire for it. It’s after 4 — maybe I’ll try to get some sleep. I hope you’re doing the same. Yeah, I just konked out very suddenly. I’m so glad I don’t suffer from insomnia. I can’t sleep on a schedule, but when I’m finally sleepy, I just lay down and bam, I’m asleep. Hope you’re doin’ well, Ian

I give Bert some really boring kibble and water all week, with a few hand-fed treats at night.  On Sundays he gets a can of real tuna in water.  I think this may be the only thing that keeps him around. Well, that and letting him chew my feet. He’s a perv, but I love him. Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I can relate to many of your issues.  You’re not alone and at least you can always express yourself here.

Thanks, Kili. This is a wonderful group of people. Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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What kind of jobs do you think of when daydreaming about joining the workforce?

I want to work with sewage. It’s a dream. No, actually, I have no daydreams about getting out into the workforce. I can barely handle cleaning the cat’s litter box, and so I doubt that I’d be able to handle anything other than miniature golf course guy, which I did for a few weeks one summer. It was a very unpopular course. I just sat there and read Jane Austen, and sometimes people would come up, and I would give them their clubs and golf balls. Oh, and a scorecard. Then I would put their money in the till and go back to reading. I was supposed to clean the course, but I never did. That was against the whole purpose of the job: to sit and do nothing. IOW, I look for a job where I can do nothing. The problem is, of course, that when you get hired for a job, typically it’s because someone *needs something done*. What are you gonna do? Maybe I should enter politics. My platform will be simple. About six inches off the ground, plain white tarp, and a chair for me to sit in. I will promise vast wealth to all my constituents, and free health care at the Mayo Clinic, without waiting in line. I will then promise an end to world violence, and the beginning of a galactic empire, and just watch the votes roll in. Then, when I get to Washington, I’ll just forget all those pledges and just vote along party lines. Seems like a decent job. Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Making someone smile, laugh or just think is a Good Thing(tm) in my book.  ;-)

using System; namespace ThanksJim {         class YourWordsAreMuchAppreciated         {                 static void Main()                 {                         Console.WriteLine("It made me feel better.");                 }         } }

<geek appreciation Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi Jim. I have my books site, and I do need to get back to it. I was helping out at Distributed Proofreaders for a while, but that got to be pretty stressful. Pretty much everything stresses me out. I have to update my books site RSS feed every day, and that’s stressful, even though it takes about two minutes. I hate knowing I *have* to do it.

Try not to let those things stress you out.  Remember you are doing them for you and for your enjoyment.  Do them if you want, or don’t.  No pressure :-) Whatever I do, I have to get out of this chair for a while every day, because it’s dragging me down. Thanks for the advice, though. I wish I could do more. My friend Bob is egging me on to learn C#, so I’m doing that, albeit slowly. Still stuck in loops, literally. Mostly do…while loops.

There are several looping constructs for a reason.  If you don’t like one, use one of the others.  I mostly use for loops and while loops. The do…while will just execute the body of the loop at least once before the while condition is checked. // this will execute the body of the loop i = 5; do {    j = i * 2;    i++; } while ( i < 2);

or // this will not execute the body of the loop i = 5; while (i < 2) {    j = i * 2;    i++; } Then it’s a boring chapter on operators, most of which I already know. Then it’s the really hard stuff: objects, methods, and classes, which somewhat mystify me. I know how they *work*, but not how I would implement them in a program. I mean, I can construct my own type, but why would I?

Once you create more advanced programs, you will see the need for creating your own objects.  For example, say you want to represent a customer.  You can create a customer object that knows how to handle all the specifics of a customer.  This is a simplified class/object.  Once you learn more advanced object constructs, you would used properties, constructors, etc. class Customer {    protected string custName = "";    protected string custAddr = "";    public void InitializeCustomerData(int custID)    {      // do code here to initiaize customer data like      // connect to a database, etc.    } }

Now your program can just work with this Customer object any time it needs to work with a "customer".  An object is really just a tidy way to package up common functionality and traits of a "thing" to make it easier to work with that "thing". I’m so depressed. I sit and listen to Air America radio for hours, and then get even more depressed, because there’s nothing I can do to help this world, other than my books site, which helps this planet’s inhabitants about as much as burping on the sidewalk. Probably less. By burping on the sidewalk, I’m helping to add nutrients to the atmosphere. <sigh

Don’t think you have to "help" the world to have purpose.  All humans take more from the world then they ever give back.  It is just part of survival.  Think of how much food, wood, energy, etc the average person uses during their lifetime.  It adds up to a lot of resources that all of us use and none of us ever give back an equal amount.  The best you can do is to just do the best with the hand you have been dealt. Think of how many people on this list you have helped by just writing something funny or witty.  Making someone smile, laugh or just think is a Good Thing(tm) in my book.  ;-) Jim —          _|/_          (o o) |  You roll an 18 in Dex and see if you  | |  don’t end up with a girlfriend        | |  JimD – Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol    | — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I don`t know whether you are able to work or not. Only you can answer that.

I talked to God about this last night. (It was my one moment of emotional peace and quiet.) I just can’t work. Just because I do absolutely zero all day long doesn’t mean I’m lazy or anything. I’m in a lot of pain, and every day is a real struggle. I really hate living. Well, not living, but living on Earth, in this day and age. I keep thinking if I find a great woman, that’ll make things better, but seeing as I’m one step above bed-ridden, I have nothing to offer these potential Aphrodites, other than love, which isn’t enough. I don’t want to lower my standards, which are high, but then I sort of have to, because there aren’t any takers. So salvation through love is out. There’s my writing, but I don’t know what to write about. I’ve been in writer’s block since my teens. I want to write a great novel, and don’t have the skills. I should write every day to improve them, but I absolutely detest my own work. There’s always something wrong with it. It’s like I want to write without having a voice, but that’s impossible. OTOH, there is a voice in me, that I can’t find, and thus can’t express myself, because I’m worried that all I really have to say is a big, 64 pt swear word, with lots of exclamation points. Then there’s money. I have none of that, and as long as I can get some food in me every day, that’s fine … but all I do is spend my money on food. About all of it, actually, minus bills. Food is so damned expensive, and I’m *way* below the poverty line here on disability. What if I could afford a car? What if I could afford a house? What if I could afford to travel? You know. Stuff like that. Plus, I would be able to bring something to the Aphroditic table, as it were, and some wonderful soul of a woman would take me home with her, or rather let me take her to my own palatial, um, palace, because that’s what everyone wants. Or sort of. What does all this mean? There is no hope. My only hope is to get a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to sit and do nothing. Or else get put on medical marijuana for life, and sit here, do nothing, and just laugh about it. But neither of those things are going to happen, despite Bill having gotten $37bn for his foundation from William Buffet today, considered the largest single donation in American history. That was the high point of my day, actually, to see such a wonderful thing in the news. Not because I’d get even a cent of that money, but because it meant that somewhere on this planet there was righteousness, mercy, love. If the world felt better, I would feel better. But this world is full of violence and hatred, prejudice, poverty, and overall terrible suffering … which seems to send its painful vibes my way. Oy vey, what can be done? Nothing, I guess. Sorry to have rambled. You can tell I’m lonely for talk, and could rattle on like this for two more screens. Hope you’re well, and thanks for listening. Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Find something small you can volunteer your time to.  Even if it is 1 hour a day or 1 hour every other day.  It will still give you something to focus your energies on.

Hi Jim. I have my books site, and I do need to get back to it. I was helping out at Distributed Proofreaders for a while, but that got to be pretty stressful. Pretty much everything stresses me out. I have to update my books site RSS feed every day, and that’s stressful, even though it takes about two minutes. I hate knowing I *have* to do it. Whatever I do, I have to get out of this chair for a while every day, because it’s dragging me down. Thanks for the advice, though. I wish I could do more. My friend Bob is egging me on to learn C#, so I’m doing that, albeit slowly. Still stuck in loops, literally. Mostly do…while loops. Then it’s a boring chapter on operators, most of which I already know. Then it’s the really hard stuff: objects, methods, and classes, which somewhat mystify me. I know how they *work*, but not how I would implement them in a program. I mean, I can construct my own type, but why would I? My programs, up to this point, look like: What does Bob do? <Bob will type in something like "sleep" No, that’s not what Bob does. What does Bob do? <finally, after many attempts, he knows what the answer is anyway, so he types in "rocks" Yes, that is what Bob does. That’s my most advanced console application. It’s about ten lines long, one while loop, a couple variables, a couple WriteLine and ReadLine, and that’s it. I’m so depressed. I sit and listen to Air America radio for hours, and then get even more depressed, because there’s nothing I can do to help this world, other than my books site, which helps this planet’s inhabitants about as much as burping on the sidewalk. Probably less. By burping on the sidewalk, I’m helping to add nutrients to the atmosphere. <sigh Anyway, hope you’re well, Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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<gently snipped ::I don’t know what to do. I can’t get out of this chair, because the ::pain I feel is non-stop. I’m constantly exhausted. Right now I feel ::like I can’t even write this, yet I can’t sleep, I can’t make coffee, ::I can’t write, I can’t listen to music. When you can’t even muster the ::strength to *sit down and entertain yourself* that’s exhaustion. ::That’s where I’m at, and where I’ve been at for yrs. I hope someone ::out there knows what the hell I’m talking about. I’m drained, and ::there isn’t much hope, but I’m going to keep on pushing anyway, on the ::off-chance that I get out of this. Dear Ian, John was wrong. While I strongly believe that if one can work, even with a mental or physical disability, one should do so. I also believe that some people cannot work. There have been many times during my long battle with panic disorder that I could not have worked. You could have put a gun to my head…..and I would have taken the bullet instead of walking out my front door and forcing myself to work. Today, I can work. Sometimes it is hard though. Yesterday was not a good day. I kept asking myself what the fick did I get myself into :) Today I was thankful I could work. LOL! I don`t know whether you are able to work or not. Only you can answer that. If a part of you feels like it would like to give employment a try, then go for it. You are NOT weak at all. It takes a lot of courage…. and a lot of work to get through yet another day. But you always do. Instead of focusing on what you aren`t able to do, focus on what you do accomplish everyday. I hope you are feeling better today! (((((Ian))))) Jackie ~*~It takes a real storm in the average person’s life to make him realize how much worrying he has done over the squalls~*~   ~ Bruce Fairchild Barton — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I know how you feel.  When you are that exhausted the only thing to do is sleep.  If you are so tired you can’t even sleep then it’s time for some sleepy-time drugs!  A couple of days/weeks of taking it super-easy and you’ll bounce back again. I’ve been out of work for 4 years and it sucks – but at least I get to live life at my own pace.  I wouldn’t worry too much about that as it is par for the course with this type of condition.  When you are disabled you have to expect  your body to be a bit screwy now and then. Don’t forget, we are always here for you, so keep posting as long as you have enough energy left to bounce your crazy fingers up and down on the keyboard! :-) — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some of you may know my old friend John. Well, actually, that’s not true. None of you do. We had an eventful last night as friends. He hit on me in a very forceful manner, which I won’t describe, and I told him I was going on disability (this was in ‘94). He got very angry, and told me I’d get fat and sit around all the time. Well, I never heard from him after that. My not wanting to sleep with a guy pretty much sealed that door. But he was right about the disability. I’m weak, folks. I’m weak. Not mentally. I’m very strong mentally. I’m very strong in my beliefs and convictions, and my knowledge. Sitting in front of the computer 24/7 for years has taught me more than 6 yrs of the nightmare that was college ever could. But I’m physically weak, and I’m emotionally weak, and that means I can’t get a job. It may not be fair. I was working right up to the point I got on disability. True, I called in sick a lot, and hated every second of it, but most minimum wage workers feel the same way about *their* jobs. But I found out that being psychotic, I could get on disability, and sure enough it was as easy as filling out the forms. Being in a few psych wards kind of greases the skids there. John was right. Disability weakened me. It gave me the time off to mature as a person, which has pretty much saved my life. In 1995 I had my stomach pumped three times because of pill overdoses, I was in jail, in two psych wards, in a group home, and all immediately after leaving college with *one class to go* because I had spent my rent money on drugs. If I hadn’t had the time to reassess my situation, I would be dead today. None of you would be reading this (and, as far as I know, none of you are). What am I saying? The mind wanders. I guess it’s 2.30 am, no one’s up to talk to, I’m dying to unload, and so once again I write what someone on here called horseshit, but hey, those horses have to shit sometimes. I don’t know what to do. I can’t get out of this chair, because the pain I feel is non-stop. I’m constantly exhausted. Right now I feel like I can’t even write this, yet I can’t sleep, I can’t make coffee, I can’t write, I can’t listen to music. When you can’t even muster the strength to *sit down and entertain yourself* that’s exhaustion. That’s where I’m at, and where I’ve been at for yrs. I hope someone out there knows what the hell I’m talking about. I’m drained, and there isn’t much hope, but I’m going to keep on pushing anyway, on the off-chance that I get out of this. Thanks for listening, ASAPM, yet again. Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Living with depressed humans would be a complete waste of time if it weren’t for the food and the head scratching.

Yeah, I know, and I’m going back to sleep, and probably won’t feed her her Fancy Feast until I wake up, which drives her nuts. She’s addicted to that stuff. Lots of fat and protein, designed, it would seem, for the sole purpose of driving cats insane with desire for it. It’s after 4 — maybe I’ll try to get some sleep. I hope you’re doing the same.

Yeah, I just konked out very suddenly. I’m so glad I don’t suffer from insomnia. I can’t sleep on a schedule, but when I’m finally sleepy, I just lay down and bam, I’m asleep. Hope you’re doin’ well, Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Some of you may know my old friend John. Well, actually, that’s not true. None of you do. We had an eventful last night as friends. He hit on me in a very forceful manner, which I won’t describe, and I told him I was going on disability (this was in ‘94). He got very angry, and told me I’d get fat and sit around all the time.

<snip Hi Ian, I know exactly what it’s like to sit around and get fat.  I’ve been trying various part time jobs lately.  Hopefully I can find something that I’m both physically and mentally able to do.  Hauling cement block and mud has proved to be too much in the heat.  I was hoping the hard work would help me loose weight, but the summer sun is simply too much for me. I just picked up an application at a smaller grocery store.  I’m not sure what I’d like to do though.  Every job there that I can think of gives me anxiety just thinking about it. :-( What kind of jobs do you think of when daydreaming about joining the workforce?  Maybe I should just go for cart pusher?  (buggies to those in the old land, and those down south like me.) Tony — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some of you may know my old friend John. Well, actually, that’s not true. None of you do. We had an eventful last night as friends. He hit on me in a very forceful manner, which I won’t describe, and I told him I was going on disability (this was in ‘94). He got very angry, and told me I’d get fat and sit around all the time. Well, I never heard from him after that. My not wanting to sleep with a guy pretty much sealed that door. But he was right about the disability. I’m weak, folks. I’m weak. Not mentally. I’m very strong mentally. I’m very strong in my beliefs and convictions, and my knowledge. Sitting in front of the computer 24/7 for years has taught me more than 6 yrs of the nightmare that was college ever could. But I’m physically weak, and I’m emotionally weak, and that means I can’t get a job. It may not be fair. I was working right up to the point I got on disability. True, I called in sick a lot, and hated every second of it, but most minimum wage workers feel the same way about *their* jobs. But I found out that being psychotic, I could get on disability, and sure enough it was as easy as filling out the forms. Being in a few psych wards kind of greases the skids there. John was right. Disability weakened me. It gave me the time off to mature as a person, which has pretty much saved my life. In 1995 I had my stomach pumped three times because of pill overdoses, I was in jail, in two psych wards, in a group home, and all immediately after leaving college with *one class to go* because I had spent my rent money on drugs. If I hadn’t had the time to reassess my situation, I would be dead today. None of you would be reading this (and, as far as I know, none of you are). What am I saying? The mind wanders. I guess it’s 2.30 am, no one’s up to talk to, I’m dying to unload, and so once again I write what someone on here called horseshit, but hey, those horses have to shit sometimes. I don’t know what to do. I can’t get out of this chair, because the pain I feel is non-stop. I’m constantly exhausted. Right now I feel like I can’t even write this, yet I can’t sleep, I can’t make coffee, I can’t write, I can’t listen to music. When you can’t even muster the strength to *sit down and entertain yourself* that’s exhaustion. That’s where I’m at, and where I’ve been at for yrs. I hope someone out there knows what the hell I’m talking about. I’m drained, and there isn’t much hope, but I’m going to keep on pushing anyway, on the off-chance that I get out of this. Thanks for listening, ASAPM, yet again. Ian —

Ian, I haven’t read any answers you have gotten.  This is coming from my heart. He obviously is not your friend.  It’s horrible when a friend hits on you and then gets mad.  That leaves you feeling so empty and lost.  He is not worth it, apparently.  I hope I am not stepping on your toes.  I have no idea what your sexual orientation is and I don’t, care,  cause it doesn’t matter. I am so sorry your friend did this to you.  He should be ashamed.  I truly hope you are not.  You are a very kind and wonderful person.’ Vicki — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Wishing you only the best…

Thanks, Elise. Maybe it’s time to try and break out of the rut. Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Ian, Maybe it’s time for you to do some self reflection on your own life.  Answer the questions you have put into the email. Maybe going back into the work world wouldn’t be good for you or maybe it would be a new beginning for you. Wishing you only the best… smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some of you may know my old friend John. Well, actually, that’s not true. None of you do. We had an eventful last night as friends. He hit on me in a very forceful manner, which I won’t describe, and I told him I was going on disability (this was in ‘94). He got very angry, and told me I’d get fat and sit around all the time. Well, I never heard from him after that. My not wanting to sleep with a guy pretty much sealed that door. But he was right about the disability. I’m weak, folks. I’m weak. Not mentally. I’m very strong mentally. I’m very strong in my beliefs and convictions, and my knowledge. Sitting in front of the computer 24/7 for years has taught me more than 6 yrs of the nightmare that was college ever could. But I’m physically weak, and I’m emotionally weak, and that means I can’t get a job. It may not be fair. I was working right up to the point I got on disability. True, I called in sick a lot, and hated every second of it, but most minimum wage workers feel the same way about *their* jobs. But I found out that being psychotic, I could get on disability, and sure enough it was as easy as filling out the forms. Being in a few psych wards kind of greases the skids there. John was right. Disability weakened me. It gave me the time off to mature as a person, which has pretty much saved my life. In 1995 I had my stomach pumped three times because of pill overdoses, I was in jail, in two psych wards, in a group home, and all immediately after leaving college with *one class to go* because I had spent my rent money on drugs. If I hadn’t had the time to reassess my situation, I would be dead today. None of you would be reading this (and, as far as I know, none of you are). What am I saying? The mind wanders. I guess it’s 2.30 am, no one’s up to talk to, I’m dying to unload, and so once again I write what someone on here called horseshit, but hey, those horses have to shit sometimes. I don’t know what to do. I can’t get out of this chair, because the pain I feel is non-stop. I’m constantly exhausted. Right now I feel like I can’t even write this, yet I can’t sleep, I can’t make coffee, I can’t write, I can’t listen to music. When you can’t even muster the strength to *sit down and entertain yourself* that’s exhaustion. That’s where I’m at, and where I’ve been at for yrs. I hope someone out there knows what the hell I’m talking about. I’m drained, and there isn’t much hope, but I’m going to keep on pushing anyway, on the off-chance that I get out of this. Thanks for listening, ASAPM, yet again. Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Some of you may know my old friend John. Well, actually, that’s not true. None of you do. We had an eventful last night as friends. He hit on me in a very forceful manner, which I won’t describe, and I told him I was going on disability (this was in ‘94). He got very angry, and told me I’d get fat and sit around all the time. Well, I never heard from him after that. My not wanting to sleep with a guy pretty much sealed that door. But he was right about the disability. I’m weak, folks. I’m weak. Not mentally. I’m very strong mentally. I’m very strong in my beliefs and convictions, and my knowledge. Sitting in front of the computer 24/7 for years has taught me more than 6 yrs of the nightmare that was college ever could. But I’m physically weak, and I’m emotionally weak, and that means I can’t get a job. It may not be fair. I was working right up to the point I got on disability. True, I called in sick a lot, and hated every second of it, but most minimum wage workers feel the same way about *their* jobs. But I found out that being psychotic, I could get on disability, and sure enough it was as easy as filling out the forms. Being in a few psych wards kind of greases the skids there. John was right. Disability weakened me. It gave me the time off to mature as a person, which has pretty much saved my life. In 1995 I had my stomach pumped three times because of pill overdoses, I was in jail, in two psych wards, in a group home, and all immediately after leaving college with *one class to go* because I had spent my rent money on drugs. If I hadn’t had the time to reassess my situation, I would be dead today. None of you would be reading this (and, as far as I know, none of you are). What am I saying? The mind wanders. I guess it’s 2.30 am, no one’s up to talk to, I’m dying to unload, and so once again I write what someone on here called horseshit, but hey, those horses have to shit sometimes. I don’t know what to do. I can’t get out of this chair, because the pain I feel is non-stop. I’m constantly exhausted. Right now I feel like I can’t even write this, yet I can’t sleep, I can’t make coffee, I can’t write, I can’t listen to music. When you can’t even muster the strength to *sit down and entertain yourself* that’s exhaustion. That’s where I’m at, and where I’ve been at for yrs. I hope someone out there knows what the hell I’m talking about. I’m drained, and there isn’t much hope, but I’m going to keep on pushing anyway, on the off-chance that I get out of this. Thanks for listening, ASAPM, yet again. Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I dont think the term "you need a good kick up the ass " is sutable advice for any one to give to anyone else,but when you are alone in your own hell you have to decide how much is your doing .Life can be far better than it is now if you try real hard,and it is really  worth it ,you can get there but it will cost you your current comfort zone if you can call it that ,so why dont you tell your self what you need yourself .We can all help you on this journey,but you have to put in the hard work yourself .I pass on all the strength I can  use it wisely — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I didn’t see any horseshit here. There are approximately 20 places in this post where I could write "me too", but that’s really boring, so I’ll just say it once. Me too. Before I forget — Bert wants Tennis Ball to know he feels his pain. Living with depressed humans would be a complete waste of time if it weren’t for the food and the head scratching. It’s after 4 — maybe I’ll try to get some sleep. I hope you’re doing the same. Deirdre – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some of you may know my old friend John. Well, actually, that’s not true. None of you do. We had an eventful last night as friends. He hit on me in a very forceful manner, which I won’t describe, and I told him I was going on disability (this was in ‘94). He got very angry, and told me I’d get fat and sit around all the time. Well, I never heard from him after that. My not wanting to sleep with a guy pretty much sealed that door. But he was right about the disability. I’m weak, folks. I’m weak. Not mentally. I’m very strong mentally. I’m very strong in my beliefs and convictions, and my knowledge. Sitting in front of the computer 24/7 for years has taught me more than 6 yrs of the nightmare that was college ever could. But I’m physically weak, and I’m emotionally weak, and that means I can’t get a job. It may not be fair. I was working right up to the point I got on disability. True, I called in sick a lot, and hated every second of it, but most minimum wage workers feel the same way about *their* jobs. But I found out that being psychotic, I could get on disability, and sure enough it was as easy as filling out the forms. Being in a few psych wards kind of greases the skids there. John was right. Disability weakened me. It gave me the time off to mature as a person, which has pretty much saved my life. In 1995 I had my stomach pumped three times because of pill overdoses, I was in jail, in two psych wards, in a group home, and all immediately after leaving college with *one class to go* because I had spent my rent money on drugs. If I hadn’t had the time to reassess my situation, I would be dead today. None of you would be reading this (and, as far as I know, none of you are). What am I saying? The mind wanders. I guess it’s 2.30 am, no one’s up to talk to, I’m dying to unload, and so once again I write what someone on here called horseshit, but hey, those horses have to shit sometimes. I don’t know what to do. I can’t get out of this chair, because the pain I feel is non-stop. I’m constantly exhausted. Right now I feel like I can’t even write this, yet I can’t sleep, I can’t make coffee, I can’t write, I can’t listen to music. When you can’t even muster the strength to *sit down and entertain yourself* that’s exhaustion. That’s where I’m at, and where I’ve been at for yrs. I hope someone out there knows what the hell I’m talking about. I’m drained, and there isn’t much hope, but I’m going to keep on pushing anyway, on the off-chance that I get out of this. Thanks for listening, ASAPM, yet again. Ian

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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you can get there but it will cost you your current comfort zone

You know, one of the wisest things a psychologist ever told me was, "Try to stay as uncomfortable as possible." This really works, but it’s hard to keep up. The comfort zone is a defense mechanism, and these things, while always well-intentioned, rarely help out in the long run. My defense mechanism is to flee from reality, and if I hurt, I don’t move. It’s important to remember that it won’t hurt that much more if I *do* move, and moving tends to lead to accomplishment, while not moving tends to lead to failure. I’m totally with you on this, and I hope I never receive the metaphorical kick in the ass, because that might involve eviction or loss of benefits, and that would lead me to an edgy situation, wherein I teetered between suicide and accomplishment. I’m trying to find the easier, softer way, as they say in AA, and so far no luck. I will try to stay uncomfortable. Hope you’re well, Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedburg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Speed cameras

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tried to die it brown later on, it did not work very well. Hmmmm…. Also made a mess of the washing machine. I once washed 2000 golf balls in the washing machine.  It worked quite well. I bet the washing machine drum was not to happy about that. {Suspects wind up} I was economical with the truth.  I did not put them all in at once.  It

made a nice rhythmic CLLLLLUNK  CLLLLLUNK. You lied. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dustbin got it –

Shooting

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>Why don’t you launch potatoes with that gun?  I’m too poor to buy a >gun, although I could probably get a cheap pistol from a pawn shop. >I am thinking about buying a scanner, so I’ll have something to >listen to at work.  I need a scanner that can receive the 800 and >1200Mhzs. bands and analog trunking, so I can hear both sides of >the conversation. ><chesucat twitched>

Good idea about the potato! I’ve seen people fire tennis balls and some guy makes an adapter that fires golf balls. My Yugo SKS 59/66 cost me $125. Most dealers will let you pay them off too. If you end up with a semi-auto, make sure you are allowed to fire it at your shooting range. Pistols are neat, but I’ve never had the desire to own one. I just sold my fathers scanner, I think it was a pro-39…not positive tho.  I have an old pro-46 which can be modified by turning it on whilst holding certain keys down…2,9 and Enter I think.. Back in the day, most every cordless phone ran somewhere in the 46.00-47.00 range and it was sooo easy to spy on people..lol Best, Chris

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Anyone here own a rifle? If so, whats your favorite thing to blaze away at? So far I’ve slaughtered a toy doll, annihilated my old computer and blown a bowling ball to bits. I have a Yugo SKS 59/66 semi-auto that holds ten round, tho I do have a larger magazine that holds 30 rounds. It also fires grenades. This weekend I got an inert grenade and launcher. You can take the grenade out and fire tennis balls too if so desired, which I’ll probably do. All I need to do is to buy some blanks or make my own and I can fire this thing. Supposed to go up to 300 yards..lol I’ve also modified it a bit..Put a vented handguard on it which makes it look meaner than it already does, put a small scope on it and now have the launcher. I want to modify the trigger as well. Right now the trigger feels like crap and has a 32-35 pound pull. I want to get it down to a 20 pound pull. The other day at the range, some guy let me fire his blackpowder rifle, which had a 7 pound pull! It was such a hairtrigger that all I did was touch it and it went off…the guy should have told me this cause it scared the hell out of me. Best, Chris

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Coconut, I don’t like guns. That’s one of the reasons I don’t like guns. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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>I might some day try to get myself a legal rifle. I’d like to go hunt >deers and elks. I have thought about it, but yet I have not dared asked >my psychiatrist if it would be theorethically possible. I can see some >preduce in regards a nutty owning a gun. >I’ve thought it would be cool to get permit to buy explosives, then I >would annihilate a bunch of my computers on a wide open field. >5-4-3-2-1-0-LIFTOFF. Which one flies higher, a Pentium or 486.. >Well, this one is one of these would-be-cool things.

I can’t hunt, I can’t kill things… When I first got my semi, I never told my shrink. Much MUCH later I told him (and my therapist) that I was an avid target shooter. Neither of them said a word really, nothing negative that is…  I believe that if I had asked if I should get one, that they both would have said no, flat-out.  I know I’m not going to go killing people with it, or myself. I trust myself and am extremely safe around it.. As for explosives, I never had a chance to play with them…Could be fun, but it scares me because of potential shrapnel.. I would guess the Pentium would fly higher because its smaller and lighter than a 486?  When I shot apart my 486 at 100 yards, the damage it did to the comp was unreal. The bullet (7.62×39) would have a very  small entry hole and a huge hole ripped in the back. The bullet would also ‘drag’ things right out the back of the comp. One even ripped half the hard drive right out…lol Best, Chris Best, Chris

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Around the bend again

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I feel quite disturbed at the moment. I would probably describe it as psychic disturbance. I wrote a suicide note to myself, and it made me feel better in a way. Just the only way I could think of to get the shit feelings out without hurting anyone.

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youre 27 right? im 26. has nothing to do with anything you wrote, which in my opinion is good. I like you. Hate to see youre upset. Hope you got it all out. Maybe you should go drive some golfballs.. that helps me.. I get SO PISSED at the golf balls I cant hit.. that I forget why I was there and pissed / disturbed in the first place. I dont think i have ever once actually hit the ball, unless it was a putt. "Lix Tetrax" <scopethel…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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 :)

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where are you at? us? uk? canada eh? What time is it there?   it is now 1:15 am here.. oregon usa. "Lix Tetrax" <scopethel…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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It’s 8:20 pm down here in NZ. Time to smoke some pot! :)

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I just sent an email to  <scopethel…@hotmail.com> is it a fake email or did you get it? NZ  huh.. I dig the accent  :) Atleast the ones Ive seen on TV Kim

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OT: 2004 Election Still An Issue In Ohio

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Since the 2004 election in Ohio has been discussed again here….and those who would suggest it’s "over" seem to deny there are still ongoing developments of any kind, I thought I’d share this bit I found on A.P. It’s excerpted from the end of an article regarding the State of Ohio’s recent purchase of touch screen voting machines, and the concern over their accuracy. Apparently, things are still moving along, though quietly. This won’t change anything of course…unless further investigation uncovers something.  Even that won’t change the result, but next the next election may bring a tidal wave of anger votes… This is only the "tip of the iceberg", of what’s still going on in Ohio. "In Cleveland, up to 10 subpoenas have been issued in the handling of the presidential recount in December by the Cuyahoga County elections board, according to special prosecutor Kevin J. Baxter. The Erie County prosecutor said the investigation was in the fact-finding stage. The investigation was prompted by complaints from Green Party candidate David Cobb and Libertarian Party candidate Michael Badnarik. They claimed the sample recount precincts weren’t randomly selected and a test-run recount was done without witnesses. Cobb and Badnarik together received less than 0.5 percent of the vote in Ohio, which President Bush won to ensure his re-election."

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You lost.  Get over it. LV

(the usual)

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You lost.  Get over it. LV (the usual)

somebody, please make him say it again. I wanna see how many times we can make Lord Valve post "You lost. Get Over it." Winner gets a new roll of solder.

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did courageously avow: You lost.  Get over it. LV (the usual)

You’re going to lose.  Get ready for it. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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You’re going to lose.  Get ready for it.

Yawn. Heard it before; right here, all through the summer and fall of 2002 and 2004. You want quotes? ‘Cause I’m sure I can find you some. Lars

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You lost.

Nope. Having an election stolen isn’t the same as losing.

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Having an election stolen isn’t the same as losing.

Indeed not: claiming the latter wouldn’t necessarily be evidence of mental illness. Lars

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(the usual)

You’re annoying. Quit it. The Repair Guy http://repairguy1993.netfirms.com/

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message Having an election stolen isn’t the same as losing. Indeed not: claiming the latter wouldn’t

necessarily be evidence of mental illness. Lars

The only way the fraudulent Duh-bya adminsistration can "win" is either by cheating or telling lies to a bunch of credulous retards, morons and superstitious zealots who ironically had the right to vote.

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The only way the fraudulent Duh-bya adminsistration can "win" is either by cheating or telling lies to a bunch of credulous retards, morons and superstitious zealots who ironically had the right to vote.

Either that, or the only way a bunch of liberal losers can salve their battered egos over the utter rejection of their policies by the voting public time and time again, is the trap of thinking that everyone else but themselves must be stupid. I’ll take a real Honda over an empty parking place that some liberal SAYS contains a Ferrari, any day. Lars

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The only way the fraudulent Duh-bya adminsistration can "win" is either by cheating or telling lies to a bunch of credulous retards, morons and superstitious zealots who ironically had the right to vote. Either that, or the only way a bunch of liberal losers can salve their battered egos over the utter rejection of their policies by the voting public time and time again, is the trap of thinking that everyone else but themselves must be stupid. I’ll take a real Honda over an empty parking place that some liberal SAYS contains a Ferrari, any day. Lars

You’ll take a Honda because you can’t afford a Ferrari.

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The only way the fraudulent Duh-bya adminsistration can "win" is either by cheating or telling lies to a bunch of credulous retards, morons and superstitious zealots who ironically had the right to vote. Either that, or the only way a bunch of liberal losers can salve their battered egos over the utter rejection of their policies by the voting public time and time again, is the trap of thinking that everyone else but themselves must be stupid. I’ll take a real Honda over an empty parking place that some liberal SAYS contains a Ferrari, any day. Lars You’ll take a Honda because you can’t afford a Ferrari.

I see him as more Yugo material myself.  That’s if he can get a deal on a used one. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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You’ll take a Honda because you can’t afford a Ferrari.

Have you *priced* a Honda NS-X lately? Wasn’t THAT long ago you *could* buy a Ferrari with that money. I’m happy enough with mine. It turns heads, goes like stink, and sticks in a turn like ugly on a zootwoman. If you’ll pardon the expression, Lars

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You’ll take a Honda because you can’t afford a Ferrari. Have you *priced* a Honda NS-X lately? Wasn’t THAT long ago you *could* buy a Ferrari with that money. I’m happy enough with mine. It turns heads, goes like stink, and sticks in a turn like ugly on a zootwoman. If you’ll pardon the expression, Lars

I’ll pardon your expression but only because you asked. I drive a Cooper Mini S. dark silver with white racing stripes. It sucks the road like…..wellllll I’ll leave it to your imagination old man.

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I drive a Cooper Mini S.

Heh. So it turns out you’re a lot farther from being able to afford a Ferrari than I am. Funny that someone who has to drive one of those, is worrying and talking about what luxuries OTHERS can and can’t afford. Let me guess: YOU’RE not a liberal either, right? It is to laugh. Lars

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I drive a Cooper Mini S. Heh. So it turns out you’re a lot farther from being able to afford a Ferrari than I am. Funny that someone who has to drive one of those, is worrying and talking about what luxuries OTHERS can and can’t afford. Let me guess: YOU’RE not a liberal either, right? It is to laugh. Lars

I drive it because I like it. It’s fun to drive, it’s easy on the gas and I have hauled as much as 42 gallons of paint in it. I wouldn’t buy a Ferrari because it doesn’t appeal to me. There are a lot of cars i would not buy. I would not buy a Mercedes. I might buy a Beemer. I have bought Saabs. I might buy a Swatch car for fashion kicks if Mercedes ever makes it. You know, Sam Walton never drove a new car or truck. What does Bill Gates drive? This article doesn’t actually say but Bill Gates says that money doesn’t have meaning. PLAYBOY: Even though your parents are well off on their own, how have they reacted to your extreme wealth? GATES: I don’t show it to them. I hide it from them. I have it buried in the lawn. It’s bulging a little bit, and I hope it doesn’t rain. PLAYBOY: Bad bet, living in Seattle. GATES: My money is meaningless to them. Meaningless. It has no effect on anything I do with my parents. [Pauses] If somebody’s sick we can get the best doctors, so it has that impact. But we talk about things that money doesn’t affect. PLAYBOY: We’re not suggesting that you talk only about money. GATES: We never talk about money. PLAYBOY: Does your net worth of multi-billions, despite the fact that it’s mostly in stock and the value varies daily, boggle your mind? GATES: It’s a ridiculous number. But remember, 95 percent of it I’m just going to give away. [Smiles] Don’t tell people to write me letters. I’m saving that for when I’m in my 50s. It’s a lot to give away and it’s going to take time. PLAYBOY: Where will you donate it? GATES: To charitable things, scientific things. I don’t believe in burdening any children I might have with that. They’ll have enough. They’ll be comfortable. PLAYBOY: Youll give them only a billion, maybe? GATES: No, no, are you kidding? Nothing like that. One percent of that. PLAYBOY: But they’ll grow up thinking, Gee, if Dad leaves me some of the money. . . . GATES: I’ll make it clear that it’ll be a modest amount. PLAYBOY: So you want them to be as self-made as you? GATES: No, that’s not the point. The point is that ridiculous sums of money can be confusing. PLAYBOY: In general, or only to the young or inexperienced? GATES: I think to anyone. PLAYBOY: Is it confusing to you? GATES: I’m very well grounded because of my parents and my job and what I believe in. Some people ask me why I don’t own a plane, for instance. Why? Because you can get used to that kind of stuff, and I think that’s bad. It takes you away from normal experiences in a way that is probably debilitating. So I control that kind of thing intentionally. It’s one of those discipline things. If my discipline ever broke down it would confuse me, too. So I try to prevent that. PLAYBOY: So why not give the kid a billion dollars and let him try to control it as well? GATES: Not earning it yourself, knowing you have it from a young age, being so different in that respect from the other kids you grow up with, would be very confusing. PLAYBOY: Won’t your being their dad be confusing enough? GATES: I will seek to minimize that in every way possible. I’ll be as creative as I can. That experience is bad for a kid. PLAYBOY: How do you entertain yourself with your money? GATES: I swallow quarters, burn dollar bills, that kind of thing. I mean, when I buy golf balls I buy used golf balls, and that entertains me. Ha, ha, ha. PLAYBOY: Seriously. GATES: I’m building a house. It has serious functions, but entertainment is most of it. It has a screening room. And I’m putting in these huge video screens and buying the digital rights to the world’s masterpieces and all sorts of art. I guess that’s indulgent. PLAYBOY: Rumor has it the house is mostly underground. GATES: Completely false. PLAYBOY: When will it be done? GATES: I thought it would take four years. It will take five, then I’ll move into the project. PLAYBOY: What else entertains you? GATES: I like to learn. I like puzzles. Ive even played some golf the past year and a half, because everybody else in my family does. Actually, right now I’m a little addicted. I get a kick out of being out there on the green grass. I’m just getting into the 90s now. PLAYBOY: We hear you don’t watch TV. GATES: I do watch television. I don’t have any TVs with their over-the-air receivers connected in my house. But when I’m in a hotel room or other places that have a TV, then I turn it on and flip the channels just like everybody else. I was watching cartoons on Nickelodeon on Sunday. Its amazing. PLAYBOY: What was on? GATES: Ren & Stimpy and Rugrats. Great! Cartoons have improved a lot since I was a kid. I’m not immune to the lures of television. I just try to stay away from it because I like to read. PLAYBOY: What do you read? GATES: The Economist, every page. Also The Wall Street Journal and Business Week. And I read Time. If I’m traveling, every once in a while I’ll pick up an issue of People. I read USA Today. PLAYBOY: What’s the most random thing you read? GATES: Fiction. That’s true randomness. My older sister has read all the trashy books. So, occasionally, I have her recommend one. Otherwise, I’m in the same traffic as everybody else. I’m in the same airplane delay as everybody else. I sit in the same coach seat as everybody else. Yeah, I’m here in meetings all day. Here at Microsoft I work hard. There are a lot of experiences I haven’t had. There are a lot of sitcoms I haven’t seen. I haven’t had a child yet. There are religions I don’t belong to. I think we all have our own slice of life. I eat at McDonald’s more than most people, but that’s because I don’t cook. PLAYBOY: You’re back to eating meat? GATES: Yes. That was only a three-year period when I was proving to myself I could do it. But in terms of fast food and deep understanding of the culture of fast food, I’m your man. PLAYBOY: Jack-in-the-Box? McDonald’s? GATES: Well, McDonald’s is more pervasive around here. We also have Jack-in-the-Box. I’m not the kind of guy who decides that just because a few people got sick, it’s necessarily going to happen to me. It wasn’t very crowded for a while, but I thought that was fine. PLAYBOY: The recent biographies of Bill Gates and Microsoft, Gates and Hard Drive, both explore the mythology that’s developed about your quirks, habits and exploits. We’d like to sort the actual from the apocryphal. GATES: Fine. PLAYBOY: We’ll start with an easy one. It’s always written that you rock compulsively in your chair, and we can attest that you’re doing it now and have been for most of this interview. GATES: Right. PLAYBOY: What about your penchant for driving fast and accumulating speeding tickets? GATES: [Smiles] I get fewer speeding tickets than I used to. PLAYBOY: Did you once get a cop fired for giving you a speeding ticket? GATES: Thats false. PLAYBOY: What about the story that while driving from Albuquerque to Seattle, you got three speeding tickets in one day from the same cop? GATES: No, no, no. I’ve always told the truth about that one. I got twospeeding tickets from the same cop. Two. Not three. I got three tickets on the drive, but only two from the same cop. But I don’t think anybody ever suggested that I said I got three from the same cop. PLAYBOY: There’s the story that your mother chooses your clothes and helps you color-coordinate by pinning them together this from a former girlfriend, who seems to repeat it without incurring your disapproval. GATES: There was one point in my life when my mother was trying to explain to me about what color shirt to wear with what ties. But this goes way back. And I think people listen to their mother’s advice when it relates to fashion. It’s not an area in which I claim to know more than she does. And it’s not that much effort to pick one shirt versus the other. I don’t look down at the color I’m wearing during the day. So if it pleases other people that I know a little bit more about which shirt to pick with which tie, thats fine. At that time I didn’t know much about it. I think I know a little bit about it now, but below average. PLAYBOY: Is it true that you cornered the market in McGovern-Eagleton buttons after Eagleton was dumped as a running mate? GATES: It’s certainly true that I made a lot of money selling McGovern-Eagleton campaign buttons. I’ll be glad to show them to you, but I don’t think it matters how much I made. It doesn’t aggrandize me when things get less and less accurate the farther they get from the source. PLAYBOY: Next: the $242 that you supposedly paid for a pizza to be delivered one night. GATES: That is just reporters’ randomness to the max. PLAYBOY: Did you have a million-dollar trust fund while you were at Harvard? GATES: Not true. [Throws up his hands, stands and starts pacing] Where does this randomness come from? You think it’s a better myth to have started with a bunch of money and made money than to have started without? In what sense? My parents are very successful, and I went to the nicest private school in the Seattle area. I was lucky. But I never had any trust funds of any kind, though my dad did pay my tuition at Harvard, which was quite expensive. PLAYBOY: How did he feel when you dropped out? GATES: I told him it was a leave of absence, that I was going back. PLAYBOY: Nice move. GATES: Hey, if I had completely failed I would have gone back, of course. Harvard was willing to take me back. I was a student on leave. PLAYBOY: When you were at Harvard, did you frequent the Combat Zone, home of hookers, drugs and adult films? GATES: That’s true. [Laughs] But just because I went there doesn’t mean I … read more »

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I drive it because I like it. It’s fun to drive, it’s easy on the gas and I have hauled as much as 42 gallons of paint in it. I wouldn’t buy a Ferrari because it doesn’t appeal to me. There are a lot of cars i would not buy. I would not buy a Mercedes. [more boring self-justifying along these lines snipped...]

Presumably because you couldn’t afford them. It must be, since it was the only reason you could imagine for MY not driving a Ferrari. And they say *we Republicans* are money-obsessed… I guess now we know why they say it. That was fun. Lars

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no, I was insulting you and THAT Lars is a non-partisan endeavor, a universal reaction to insultees, unless you’re Ghandi. That was fun too.

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I’ll pardon your expression but only because you asked. I drive a Cooper Mini S. dark silver with white racing stripes. It sucks the road like…..wellllll I’ll leave it to your imagination old man.

OK, those are *cool* little cars!  I see them driving around and one of these days, I’m going to have to take a closer look. It’s good to hear they are easy on the gas, too.  My current car gets *very* good mileage.  I’ve been resisting getting a newere one, mainly for that very reason (38 mpg–highway). Mike

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll pardon your expression but only because you asked. I drive a Cooper Mini S. dark silver with white racing stripes. It sucks the road like…..wellllll I’ll leave it to your imagination old man. OK, those are *cool* little cars!  I see them driving around and one of these days, I’m going to have to take a closer look. It’s good to hear they are easy on the gas, too.  My current car gets *very* good mileage.  I’ve been resisting getting a newere one, mainly for that very reason (38 mpg–highway). Mike

My Sportster gets 55 mpg, in town.  And half the number of wheels is twice as much fun. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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I say easy but since it’s supercharged, it ain’t all that easy. Just 31 highway. If you are very serious about gas milage – there are better cars. I am really getting a kick out of all the whining at the hardware store about gas prices. It’s up to $2.75 here. All those suburbans and F150s parked outside next to my Mini – anyway easy is relative. I liked the lines of the HOnda Insight, it reminded me of my first Saab, a Saab 96. I tried to look at the Insight but the Austin Honda dealer I went to didn’t want to sell it to me and he didn’t have any on the lot. His attitude was why would I want a two seater car? (I bought my Mini 2002). I decided I needed more trunk space than the Insight (as I said I could haul 45 gallons of paint in the back of that Mini – looks are deceiving) and I don’t mind admitting that the interior did it for me, it is totally cool design. I get suckered by design all the time. And I am having fun driving it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll pardon your expression but only because you asked. I drive a Cooper Mini S. dark silver with white racing stripes. It sucks the road like…..wellllll I’ll leave it to your imagination old man. OK, those are *cool* little cars!  I see them driving around and one of these days, I’m going to have to take a closer look. It’s good to hear they are easy on the gas, too.  My current car gets *very* good mileage.  I’ve been resisting getting a newere one, mainly for that very reason (38 mpg–highway). Mike

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I say easy but since it’s supercharged, it ain’t all that easy. Just 31 highway. If you are very serious about gas milage – there are better cars. I am really getting a kick out of all the whining at the hardware store about gas prices. It’s up to $2.75 here. All those suburbans and F150s parked outside next to my Mini – anyway easy is relative. I liked the lines of the HOnda Insight, it reminded me of my first Saab, a Saab 96. I tried to look at the Insight but the Austin Honda dealer I went to didn’t want to sell it to me and he didn’t have any on the lot. His attitude was why would I want a two seater car? (I bought my Mini 2002). I decided I needed more trunk space than the Insight (as I said I could haul 45 gallons of paint in the back of that Mini – looks are deceiving) and I don’t mind admitting that the interior did it for me, it is totally cool design. I get suckered by design all the time. And I am having fun driving it.

How do you deal with those whiners about gas prices?  Ask them to calculate what they’re paying for bottled water and see how much they bitch.  Particularly when tap water in North America is safe for the most part.  Bottled water still costs more than gasoline here in Canada.  And we’re not even talking the designer types for the really snooty. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas,  Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, the rest of the  Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE)  and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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Destruction?

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What have you destroyed lately? trust? brain cells? a computer? a TV? a relationship? an apartment? a doctor’s office? nothing? what have you build lately? — Peter Timusk B.Math Just trying to stay linear www.crystalcomputing.net >blog> http://logbook.crystalcomputing.net www.webpagex.org >blog> http://notebook.webpagex.org

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> what have you build lately?

Are you a ‘builder’ Peter?  The freemasons may want you in their ranks. How will you be tried, by the square, and all that…. Jim

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I am a buyer of finished goods. I have built my knowledge of law this summer and slightly destroyed my apartment with leaky air conditioner. I guess that means I am closer to being a homeless laywer. — Peter Timusk B.Math Just trying to stay linear www.crystalcomputing.net >blog> http://logbook.crystalcomputing.net www.webpagex.org >blog> http://notebook.webpagex.org "lazy dog" <arf…@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:8ueMe.554$tB5.437@okepread06… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> what have you build lately? > Are you a ‘builder’ Peter?  The freemasons may want you in their ranks. > How will you be tried, by the square, and all that…. > Jim

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Thousands Of People Waking Up Without Electricity This Morning Last Update: 8/15/2005         7:17:25 AM (New York) AP 08/15/05  – Thousands of people in the tri-state area are waking up Monday morning without electricity. The severe thunderstorms that passed through the area last night knocked out power on Long Island and in the northern suburbs of Rockland and Orange counties. The Long Island Power Authority says there are about 2,600 customers without electricity at dawn. Most of the outages are in Glen Cove and Massapequa. Officials are trying to verify if a tornado touched down in Glen Cove, leaving a swirl of broken utility poles and trees. Orange and Rockland Utilities had about 10,000 customers out at the height of the storm. But just over 1,000 remain blacked out as of dawn this morning. Four hundred of them are in Rockland County – mostlyy in Valley Cottage and Pearl River. In Orange County, 261 customers remain without power, 200 of them clustered in Port Jervis. And in Bergen County abut 393 customers are without power – more than half of them in Closter. ************************************ Thousands still without power from Northeast storms Monday, August 15, 2005; Posted: 8:04 p.m. EDT (00:04 GMT) Drivers brave the flooded streets of Boston, Massachusetts, on Sunday. NEW YORK (AP) — Power is still out for many of the thousands of people in New York, New Jersey and several New England states who had to start their Monday without brewed coffee or hair dryers, after fierce thunderstorms ripped through much of the Northeast Sunday night. New Jersey officials said some of the more than 80,000 homes and businesses that lost power may not get it back until late Tuesday, particularly in the state’s northern part. A police dispatcher said half of the Massachusetts town of Brockton is under water. And Stamford, Connecticut’s mayor said he’s never seen damage like what his town was socked with. Wind gusting to 80 mph knocked trees onto power lines, lightning started fires and torrential rain flooded streets in parts of eastern Pennsylvania, northern New Jersey, southeastern New York, Connecticut and eastern Massachusetts on Sunday. Boston’s South Shore was hit particularly hard, with severe flooding in Quincy, Braintree, Weymouth and Brockton. "Half of the city is under water," Brockton police dispatcher Darrelyn Jordan said Sunday night. "We have reports of water going into basements all over the city. We’ve had people stuck in cars all over the city. We even had to tow a police cruiser out of there with water flowing over the hood." Stamford, Connecticut, Mayor Dannel Malloy said the damage was the worst since an ice storm in 1973: "We’ve never seen anything like it." More than 50,000 homes and businesses in Massachusetts also lost power. Thousands more were blacked out in the New York City suburbs. The severe weather on Sunday also forced a suspension of final round play at the PGA Championship in Springfield, New Jersey, and caused a 90-minute interruption of the MLS soccer game between the MetroStars and the Columbus Crew at New Jersey’s Meadowlands. However, the storms brought at least a little relief from a stifling heat wave that had driven temperatures above 100 degrees with high humidity. Before the storms, Consolidated Edison in New York had record demand for power during the weekend, spokesman Chris Olert said. ******************************************** Storm pummels region Monday, August 15, 2005 By ELISE YOUNG STAFF WRITER Some 25,000 homes in Bergen County were without power Sunday night after a thunderstorm wrought what one official called "20 minutes or a half-hour of havoc." In Glen Rock, firefighters raced to a burning house believed to have been struck by lightning. Trees and utility lines were down on both sides of the town. On Route 17 from Saddle River to Rutherford, flooding and downed power lines caused closures of parts of the busy road moments after the storm blew in about 6 p.m. "The storm came from the north and just rolled down and created 20 minutes or a half-hour of havoc in each town," said county police Sgt. Michael Devine. Deann Muzikar, a spokeswoman for Public Service Electric and Gas Co., said the hardest-hit towns were Ridgewood, Paramus, Westwood, Little Ferry, Glen Rock and Washington Township. She said the utility estimated that power would be fully restored by 9 p.m. Tuesday. "We’re sure some of the people will come back up before then," she said. Muzikar said most of the outages were caused by lightning striking power lines. A power substation in Westwood also was hit. The change in weather was abrupt. At Teterboro Airport at 6 p.m., the National Weather Service recorded a temperature of 86 degrees. An hour later, the temperature had dropped 11 degrees. During 15 minutes in Lodi, a North Jersey Weather Observer member recorded rainfall of 1.48 inches. A member in Hawthorne recorded 1.74 inches of precipitation between 6 and 6:30 p.m. Some members reported severe thunder and lightning for a half-hour or longer. Prior to the storm, "the air was just soaked" with humidity, said Robert Ziff of Ramsey, a spokesman for the group. "The air was so unstable," he said, "the only way to stabilize it is with storms." Police in Wayne and Oakland, each with flood-prone areas, said they had little rainfall and no trouble to report. "It’s kind of unusual," Ziff remarked. "We get squall lines at this time of year. These are hit-and-miss storms." Residents in Emerson and Westwood said entire neighborhoods, including streetlamps and traffic lights, were without power. In Glen Rock, Patrolman Peter Tuchol said the regular shift was held over to deal with downed trees and power lines on both the east and west sides of town. "It should be cleared up in a few hours," he said at 8 p.m. The Bergen County Police Department reported flooding along Route 17, forcing closures in Ridgewood, Paramus, Hasbrouck Heights, East Rutherford and Rutherford. In Rochelle Park, southbound Passaic Street was closed because of downed utility lines. NJ Transit trains and buses and PATH reported no major problems. At the Baltusrol Golf Club in Springfield, temperatures reached 100 degrees for the second day, and thunderstorms led officials to suspend the PGA Championship for about 40 minutes. Fourth-round play will resume today at 10:05 a.m.

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The air conditioning units went off in some rooms at the motel because of the freaky power outages, and somebody threw a chair through the big window of their motel room to get some air. The broken glass from the window stopped a foot short of the front bumper on my parents’ car.  No sign of chair damage to the hood of the car. The air conditioning in my parents’ car died Monday, and they had to drive through 90 degree heat with their windows open at 70 mph. "Pierre Anoid" <ptim…@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

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I guess they off the net then eh? I have been thinking of buying a portable battery pack and solar panel thing they keep advertising on TV. These cost about 400$ together but are on sale usually. The last big power outage I could use the phone but did yet have a laptop with battery so no net access. my battery operated flash lights and radios were all that worked. I have since bought about 8 solar falsh lights and given some away to friends. We still are expecting a black out just North West of NY in Ontario. — Peter Timusk B.Math Just trying to stay linear www.crystalcomputing.net >blog> http://logbook.crystalcomputing.net www.webpagex.org >blog> http://notebook.webpagex.org "Cymbal Man Freq." <Don’t Bot…@ForgedPostsAnonymous.unorg> wrote in message news:56fMe.15543$Hx4.10969@twister.nyroc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thousands Of People Waking Up Without Electricity This Morning > Last Update: 8/15/2005         7:17:25 AM > (New York) AP 08/15/05  – Thousands of people in the tri-state area are > waking > up Monday morning without electricity. The severe thunderstorms that > passed > through the area last night knocked out power on Long Island and in the > northern > suburbs of Rockland and Orange counties. > The Long Island Power Authority says there are about 2,600 customers > without > electricity at dawn. Most of the outages are in Glen Cove and Massapequa. > Officials are trying to verify if a tornado touched down in Glen Cove, > leaving a > swirl of broken utility poles and trees. > Orange and Rockland Utilities had about 10,000 customers out at the height > of > the storm. But just over 1,000 remain blacked out as of dawn this morning. > Four > hundred of them are in Rockland County – mostlyy in Valley Cottage and > Pearl > River. In Orange County, 261 customers remain without power, 200 of them > clustered in Port Jervis. > And in Bergen County abut 393 customers are without power – more than half > of > them in Closter. > ************************************ > Thousands still without power from Northeast storms > Monday, August 15, 2005; Posted: 8:04 p.m. EDT (00:04 GMT) > Drivers brave the flooded streets of Boston, Massachusetts, on Sunday. > NEW YORK (AP) — Power is still out for many of the thousands of people in > New > York, New Jersey and several New England states who had to start their > Monday > without brewed coffee or hair dryers, after fierce thunderstorms ripped > through > much of the Northeast Sunday night. > New Jersey officials said some of the more than 80,000 homes and > businesses that > lost power may not get it back until late Tuesday, particularly in the > state’s > northern part. > A police dispatcher said half of the Massachusetts town of Brockton is > under > water. And Stamford, Connecticut’s mayor said he’s never seen damage like > what > his town was socked with. > Wind gusting to 80 mph knocked trees onto power lines, lightning started > fires > and torrential rain flooded streets in parts of eastern Pennsylvania, > northern > New Jersey, southeastern New York, Connecticut and eastern Massachusetts > on > Sunday. > Boston’s South Shore was hit particularly hard, with severe flooding in > Quincy, > Braintree, Weymouth and Brockton. > "Half of the city is under water," Brockton police dispatcher Darrelyn > Jordan > said Sunday night. "We have reports of water going into basements all over > the > city. We’ve had people stuck in cars all over the city. We even had to tow > a > police cruiser out of there with water flowing over the hood." > Stamford, Connecticut, Mayor Dannel Malloy said the damage was the worst > since > an ice storm in 1973: "We’ve never seen anything like it." > More than 50,000 homes and businesses in Massachusetts also lost power. > Thousands more were blacked out in the New York City suburbs. > The severe weather on Sunday also forced a suspension of final round play > at the > PGA Championship in Springfield, New Jersey, and caused a 90-minute > interruption > of the MLS soccer game between the MetroStars and the Columbus Crew at New > Jersey’s Meadowlands. > However, the storms brought at least a little relief from a stifling heat > wave > that had driven temperatures above 100 degrees with high humidity. Before > the > storms, Consolidated Edison in New York had record demand for power during > the > weekend, spokesman Chris Olert said. > ******************************************** > Storm pummels region > Monday, August 15, 2005 > By ELISE YOUNG > STAFF WRITER > Some 25,000 homes in Bergen County were without power Sunday night after a > thunderstorm wrought what one official called "20 minutes or a half-hour > of > havoc." > In Glen Rock, firefighters raced to a burning house believed to have been > struck > by lightning. Trees and utility lines were down on both sides of the town. > On > Route 17 from Saddle River to Rutherford, flooding and downed power lines > caused > closures of parts of the busy road moments after the storm blew in about 6 > p.m. > "The storm came from the north and just rolled down and created 20 minutes > or a > half-hour of havoc in each town," said county police Sgt. Michael Devine. > Deann Muzikar, a spokeswoman for Public Service Electric and Gas Co., said > the > hardest-hit towns were Ridgewood, Paramus, Westwood, Little Ferry, Glen > Rock and > Washington Township. She said the utility estimated that power would be > fully > restored by 9 p.m. Tuesday. > "We’re sure some of the people will come back up before then," she said. > Muzikar said most of the outages were caused by lightning striking power > lines. > A power substation in Westwood also was hit. > The change in weather was abrupt. At Teterboro Airport at 6 p.m., the > National > Weather Service recorded a temperature of 86 degrees. An hour later, the > temperature had dropped 11 degrees. > During 15 minutes in Lodi, a North Jersey Weather Observer member recorded > rainfall of 1.48 inches. A member in Hawthorne recorded 1.74 inches of > precipitation between 6 and 6:30 p.m. Some members reported severe thunder > and > lightning for a half-hour or longer. > Prior to the storm, "the air was just soaked" with humidity, said Robert > Ziff of > Ramsey, a spokesman for the group. > "The air was so unstable," he said, "the only way to stabilize it is with > storms." > Police in Wayne and Oakland, each with flood-prone areas, said they had > little > rainfall and no trouble to report. > "It’s kind of unusual," Ziff remarked. "We get squall lines at this time > of > year. These are hit-and-miss storms." > Residents in Emerson and Westwood said entire neighborhoods, including > streetlamps and traffic lights, were without power. In Glen Rock, > Patrolman > Peter Tuchol said the regular shift was held over to deal with downed > trees and > power lines on both the east and west sides of town. > "It should be cleared up in a few hours," he said at 8 p.m. > The Bergen County Police Department reported flooding along Route 17, > forcing > closures in Ridgewood, Paramus, Hasbrouck Heights, East Rutherford and > Rutherford. > In Rochelle Park, southbound Passaic Street was closed because of downed > utility > lines. > NJ Transit trains and buses and PATH reported no major problems. > At the Baltusrol Golf Club in Springfield, temperatures reached 100 > degrees for > the second day, and thunderstorms led officials to suspend the PGA > Championship > for about 40 minutes. > Fourth-round play will resume today at 10:05 a.m.

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I am supposed to painting our bathroom. It took me about two months to paint the baseboard once and do the polyfila work on holes in the wall. I bought sandpaper on Saturday to san the polyfila now. I still need to paint the walls. The room will be canary yellow. I also want to build a mixer rack case for my new mixer. Building a plain wooden box is more difficult than it seems. — Peter Timusk B.Math Just trying to stay linear www.crystalcomputing.net >blog> http://logbook.crystalcomputing.net www.webpagex.org >blog> http://notebook.webpagex.org "lazy dog" <arf…@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:8ueMe.554$tB5.437@okepread06… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> what have you build lately? > Are you a ‘builder’ Peter?  The freemasons may want you in their ranks. > How will you be tried, by the square, and all that…. > Jim

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Pierre Anoid wrote: > What have you destroyed lately?

I wiped my Redhat 9 partition, hadn’t booted into it for over a year. > what have you build lately?

A 2.6.12 kernel and an xorg.conf .

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"Pierre Anoid" <ptim…@sympatico.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:b8eMe.6706$7R.378413@news20.bellglobal.com… > What have you destroyed lately? > trust? > brain cells?

yes > a computer? > a TV? > a relationship? > an apartment? > a doctor’s office? > nothing? > what have you build lately?

beerbelly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Peter Timusk B.Math Just trying to stay linear > www.crystalcomputing.net >blog> http://logbook.crystalcomputing.net > www.webpagex.org >blog> http://notebook.webpagex.org

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"Pierre Anoid" <ptim…@sympatico.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:_tfMe.6729$7R.389900@news20.bellglobal.com… >I am supposed to painting our bathroom. It took me about two months to >paint the baseboard once and do the polyfila work on holes in the wall. > I bought sandpaper on Saturday to san the polyfila now. I still need to > paint the walls. The room will be canary yellow.

My witch friend told me, that yellow affects the soul very positivly. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I also want to build a mixer rack case for my new mixer. Building a plain > wooden box is more difficult than it seems. > — > Peter Timusk B.Math Just trying to stay linear > www.crystalcomputing.net >blog> http://logbook.crystalcomputing.net > www.webpagex.org >blog> http://notebook.webpagex.org > "lazy dog" <arf…@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:8ueMe.554$tB5.437@okepread06… >>> what have you build lately? >> Are you a ‘builder’ Peter?  The freemasons may want you in their ranks. >> How will you be tried, by the square, and all that…. >> Jim

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My cable internet went caput for the night, last night, just after I posted this.  Should I be paranoid? "lazy dog" <arf…@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:8ueMe.554$tB5.437@okepread06… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> what have you build lately? > Are you a ‘builder’ Peter?  The freemasons may want you in their ranks. > How will you be tried, by the square, and all that…. > Jim

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I’ve destroyed an old 486 computer, a doll and numerous paper targets at the firing range lately with my SKS 59/66. I’ve built up more courage for some reason and restored a very rusty, pitted .22 rifle. Best, Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:41:44 -0400, "Pierre Anoid" <ptim…@sympatico.ca> wrote: >What have you destroyed lately? >trust? >brain cells? >a computer? >a TV? >a relationship? >an apartment? >a doctor’s office? >nothing? >what have you build lately?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:33:00 -0400, alphacat <m…@privacy.net> wrote: >X-No-Archive: yes >Coconut wrote: >> I’ve destroyed an old 486 computer, a doll and numerous paper targets >> at the firing range lately with my SKS 59/66. >> I’ve built up more courage for some reason and restored a very rusty, >> pitted .22 rifle. >> Best, >> Chris >That SKS 59/66 is very gun!  I would like to own one sometime in the >future.  Where did you buy it from and how much did you pay for it? ><alphacat blinks>

I got it at a local gunshop in Tannersville, PA – Paid 115.00 for it and he gave me two boxes of Wolf ammo for it as well.  It took two hours of cleaning to get all the damn cosmoline off it – I had to break down the entire gun, which was fairly easy. It has the fold-in bayonet and a grenade launcher too. Some guy makes adapters for the grenade launcher so you can launch golf balls..lol Its a fabulous beginners rifle and neat for old timers too, just because its a semi-automatic.  A week ago I found a thirty round magazine for it, but it worked like crap; kept jamming on me. Strip-clips work great for it, especially with Bear ammo – makes loading a snap.. I plan on getting a small scope for it real soon because after about 40 rounds, my eyes just blur out when looking at the sights… Best, Chris

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:37:37 -0500, "lazy dog" <arf…@nospam.com> wrote: >X-No-Archive: yes >"alphacat" <m…@privacy.net> wrote in message >news:4302a2c5$0$34683$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net… >> X-No-Archive: yes >> Coconut wrote: >>> I’ve destroyed an old 486 computer, a doll and numerous paper targets >>> at the firing range lately with my SKS 59/66. >>> I’ve built up more courage for some reason and restored a very rusty, >>> pitted .22 rifle. >>> Best, >>> Chris >> That SKS 59/66 is very gun!  I would like to own one sometime in the >> future.  Where did you buy it from and how much did you pay for it? >> <alphacat blinks> >I like the SKS too.  I got one before I got the sz dx.  Not sure what model >it is, but it cost me about $100 back in 1992.  I am afraid it may be rusty >and pitted due to neglect.  I have only used it a few times though. >I believe in the right to keep and bear arms, especially with the state of >the US govt these days.

Its probably a 59/66 or a 59.  Rust and pits look horrible, but its not too hard to get them off/out with a wire wheel attachment for a dril or a wire wheel for a grinder. Inside the barrel can be a real pain tho..

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I was in the military for 8 years.. and learned to shoot pretty well. ( shot 39 of 40 – that was  my best. average 35 though) I think shooting is good for recreation but I am afraid to own a gun. With my night time paranoia, I would end up shooting someone who lives in my house or the shadow of my cat or something. Also, I have a baby so guns in the  house make me worse. We do have an sks though, which is why I have decided to chime in – We also have 38 … the bolts are kept in a locking hutch thing.. in the drawer, and the rest in the closet of the bedroom. -kim

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>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:30:07 -0700, "Caprinardo Delirio" <monotre…@hotmail.com> wrote: >I was in the military for 8 years.. and learned to shoot pretty well. ( shot >39 of 40 – that was  my best. average 35 though) >I think shooting is good for recreation but I am afraid to own a gun. With >my night time paranoia, I would end up shooting someone who lives in my >house or the shadow of my cat or something. Also, I have a baby so guns in >the  house make me worse. We do have an sks though, which is why I have >decided to chime in – We also have 38 … the bolts are kept in a locking >hutch thing.. in the drawer, and the rest in the closet of the bedroom. >-kim

I’m lucky, I don’t have the extreme paranoia anymore, so nighttime shadows don’t bother me much. I used to be really paranoid, so I can easily sympathize.  Its good you have the 38 locked up, especially with a baby in the house.. Best, Chris

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<< I don’t see why they don’t let people with "mental illness" own guns>> My boyfriends brother had sz for many many years.. he went right down to the local sports store and bought a 22.. twice! once when his parents locked it up and would take him to the gun range to use it.. and the 2nd time, when he killed himself.. SO! He had to go through the background check blah blah.. and he still was able to buy them. I dont know how, I thought they checked for illness etc. -kim

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>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:10:49 -0700, "Caprinardo Delirio" <monotre…@hotmail.com> wrote: ><< I don’t see why they don’t let people with "mental >illness" own guns>> >My boyfriends brother had sz for many many years.. he went right down to the >local sports store and bought a 22.. twice! once when his parents locked it >up and would take him to the gun range to use it.. and the 2nd time, when he >killed himself.. SO! He had to go through the background check blah blah.. >and he still was able to buy them. >I dont know how, I thought they checked for illness etc. >-kim

I think it depends on where you live, as to the background check – I think that some states don’t do it at all. Here in Pennsylvania, they do it and I went right through in about 15 minutes. My father made some purchases as well and his went through in about three minutes. I’m not sure, buy I think they call the BATF, who looks up your name, social security number and drivers license and checks for felonies and past arrests.. We got a rifle at a gun show last week and the guy was a dealer from the other side of PA. He just made a call using his cell phone and in minutes we were cleared – It took longer to fill out the paperwork.. Best, Chris

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i have a sleeve of golf balls that are in their original carton…the plastic has rottened because of their age. flying scot on the side it says george mcgovern in 72 their value? would take offers coach

did you say balls?  is this part of the human penis necklace scam someone posted earlier?   sure sounds like it.

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i have a sleeve of golf balls that are in their original carton…the plastic has rottened because of their age. flying scot on the side it says george mcgovern in 72 their value?

Put them on eBay and find out. Sheesh. A

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i have a sleeve of golf balls that are in their original carton…the plastic has rottened because of their age. flying scot on the side it says george mcgovern in 72 their value? zero. He’s got balls spamming this group.

I like the American Express radio ad where the woman says "I can only keep so many balls in the air at once" then slightly laughs, it’s very subtle, but makes the meaning crystal clear.

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i have a sleeve of golf balls that are in their original carton…the plastic has rottened because of their age. flying scot on the side it says george mcgovern in 72 their value?

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on the side it says george mcgovern in 72 their value?

Wrong newsgroup.  You want:  alt.values.rottened.golfballs ef

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i have a sleeve of golf balls that are in their original carton…the plastic has rottened because of their age. flying scot on the side it says george mcgovern in 72 their value? zero.

He’s got balls spamming this group. — To reply by email, remove the word "space"

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" I promise to vote for McGovern in ‘72.  Better him than that pesky Tricky Dick guy".

Good thinking, it would have required balls to vote McGovern in ‘72

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" I promise to vote for McGovern in ‘72.  Better him than that pesky Tricky Dick guy". Good thinking, it would have required balls to vote McGovern in ‘72

What’s a button like this one worth? www.speff.com/buttons.jpg

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" I promise to vote for McGovern in ‘72.  Better him than that pesky Tricky Dick guy". Good thinking, it would have required balls to vote McGovern in ‘72 What’s a button like this one worth? www.speff.com/buttons.jpg

I’ll bid $10, if the shipping is reasonable. — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. –Edward Abbey

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i have a sleeve of golf balls that are in their original carton…the plastic has rottened because of their age. flying scot on the side it says george mcgovern in 72 their value? would take offers coach

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i have a sleeve of golf balls …on the side it says george mcgovern in 72 …would take offers

I promise to vote for McGovern in ‘72.  Better him than that pesky Tricky Dick guy. Now send those golf balls. Loren

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My weight loss story (LONG)

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So you are just talking trash from behind the safety of your keyboard again. — Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.  – MFW

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bunch of golf balls

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we had this huge thing of like 500 golf balls.  even if they were rejects or surplus, that’s 50 cents a ball.  probably $200 worth at least. sure enough, some kids ended up hitting them all in the woods.  i’m not going to go search for all of them.  i guess i’ll have to spend about $50 getting a bunch of new ones. my swing is improving.  big swinger i am.  i can really knock it out of the park with a 5 wood.  anyone want to swing with me? michael

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I can swing, baby. "gravity" <grav…@example.net> wrote in message

news:buLpd.180$6K5.117@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> we had this huge thing of like 500 golf balls.  even if they were rejects or > surplus, that’s 50 cents a ball.  probably $200 worth at least. > sure enough, some kids ended up hitting them all in the woods.  i’m not > going to go search for all of them.  i guess i’ll have to spend about $50 > getting a bunch of new ones. > my swing is improving.  big swinger i am.  i can really knock it out of the > park with a 5 wood.  anyone want to swing with me? > michael

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