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avaliability of club head/grif/ball cleaning detergents/ sprays/ foams/desinfectants or mayby even golf club ultrasonic turbo wachine machines ?

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I can’t point you to any online articles.  There may be some archived, I don’t know.  But I know I’ve seen articles in golf periodicals concerning the dangers of pesticides.  The rule of thumb is, don’t lick your balls. (Golf balls.) Honestly, are you so timid about everything outdoors that you dare not come out of your domecile?  I know the world is scary, but really…. — Randy        Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com        BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com  "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Welcome to the kinder and gentler RSG where if Randy never heard of it, then it never happened. Lookit, Mr. "Kinder and Gentler," I asked a simple question.  I read all the golf magazines.  I keep up on all the golfstuff on websites, etc., etc., and I’ve NEVER heard of anyone getting Poison Ivy from their golf clubs. I’ve read articles about the dangers of pesticides, Could you kindly poin me to some on-line articles on dangers of pesticides ?  snakes, over-exposure to the elements and other things that golfers should be aware of.  Yet I’ve never seen an article where we’ve been warned that our golf clubs could give us poison ivy. I didn’t say such an article has never been published.  I merely asked if you could point me to it.  I would be interested to learn about such a thing (even though, thank God, I’m not allergic to poison ivy). Ok. Querring internet I got the following interesting links related to Poison Ivy http://poisonivy.aesir.com/ http://www.NetStoreUSA.com/mnbooks/082/0823954153.shtml http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/allergies/ http://ceinfo.unh.edu/Common/Documents/poisnivy.htm http://www.poison-ivy-protection.com/

http://www.altavista.com/sites/search/web?q=%2Bpoison+%2Bivy+%2Bgolf&… =XX – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (cut) Jacek

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Mark, I absolutely loved the Web page at http://www.clubtub.com/ It has a "before" picture but no "after" (!!) LOL

Actually it does.  It’s a script page, and the before picture becomes the after picture.  Hang in there, you’ll see it.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Welcome to the kinder and gentler RSG where if Randy never heard of it, then it never happened. Poison Ivy is ubiquitous. People get it off of cats, dogs, golf clubs, and long dead Poison Ivy plants because a dead plant is still full of the resin. If one is susceptible to Poison Ivy and all some people need to do is walk past some, they need balance the cost of golf balls against the cost of medications. Tom, Poison Ivy is not ubiquitous, we do not have it here in the UK and I believe it only exists in North America. And what about claws, very small creatures, walking under a skin and drinking your blood, very common in Europe , bringing some health risks as a virus carrier ? Jacek

Possibly in some parts, but a lot depends on the local vegetation. (I am assuming you mean ticks?) — Alan Campbell

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Mark, I absolutely loved the Web page at http://www.clubtub.com/ It has a "before" picture but no "after" (!!) LOL Vic – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Check out http://www.soniclean.com.au/golf.htm http://cleanpro.hypermart.net/catalog/golfclubcleaner.html http://www.clubtub.com/ http://www.shineablind.com/gframe.html and many more from http://www.google.com/search?q=ultrasonic+golf+club+cleaner lots of ultrasonic golf club cleaners on the market already. Mark A Just curious on avaliability of club head/grif/ball cleaning detergents/ sprays/ foams/desinfectants or mayby even golf club turbo wachine machines applied on a daily basis and after the season. Think that golf ball/club head ultrasonic wash machine would be welcome by most golfers at golf workshop or at entrance to club house. I really don’t like to wash club head with a brush manually. If interested i can test ultrasonic washing of club heads and balls. Jacek

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Check out http://www.soniclean.com.au/golf.htm http://cleanpro.hypermart.net/catalog/golfclubcleaner.html http://www.clubtub.com/ http://www.shineablind.com/gframe.html and many more from http://www.google.com/search?q=ultrasonic+golf+club+cleaner lots of ultrasonic golf club cleaners on the market already. Mark A – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just curious on avaliability of club head/grif/ball cleaning detergents/ sprays/ foams/desinfectants or mayby even golf club turbo wachine machines applied on a daily basis and after the season. Think that golf ball/club head ultrasonic wash machine would be welcome by most golfers at golf workshop or at entrance to club house. I really don’t like to wash club head with a brush manually. If interested i can test ultrasonic washing of club heads and balls. Jacek

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Welcome to the kinder and gentler RSG where if Randy never heard of it, then it never happened. Lookit, Mr. "Kinder and Gentler," I asked a simple question.  I read all the golf magazines.  I keep up on all the golfstuff on websites, etc., etc., and I’ve NEVER heard of anyone getting Poison Ivy from their golf clubs.  I’ve read articles about the dangers of pesticides,

Could you kindly poin me to some on-line articles on dangers of pesticides ?  snakes, over-exposure to the elements and other things that golfers should be aware of.  Yet I’ve never seen an article where we’ve been warned that our golf clubs could give us poison ivy. I didn’t say such an article has never been published.  I merely asked if you could point me to it.  I would be interested to learn about such a thing (even though, thank God, I’m not allergic to poison ivy).

Ok. Querring internet I got the following interesting links related to Poison Ivy http://poisonivy.aesir.com/ http://www.NetStoreUSA.com/mnbooks/082/0823954153.shtml http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/allergies/ http://ceinfo.unh.edu/Common/Documents/poisnivy.htm http://www.poison-ivy-protection.com/ http://www.altavista.com/sites/search/web?q=%2Bpoison+%2Bivy+%2Bgolf&… (cut) Jacek

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Welcome to the kinder and gentler RSG where if Randy never heard of it, then it never happened. Poison Ivy is ubiquitous. People get it off of cats, dogs, golf clubs, and long dead Poison Ivy plants because a dead plant is still full of the resin. If one is susceptible to Poison Ivy and all some people need to do is walk past some, they need balance the cost of golf balls against the cost of medications.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There can be some bad stuff on golf course so wanting to do more than wiping off the club heads is valid. A dumb thing people do is using a club to poke around the weeds looking for a ball. Really nice way to transfer Poison Ivy from the plant to you. If not your club, then what would you use to poke around in the weeds? Your hands?  Your feet (risking a snake bite)?  Poking around with the club is the ONLY sensible thing to do, unless you just wish to not even attempt to look. Frankly, I’ve never heard of anyone getting poison ivy from their golf clubs.  Maybe it happens, but it would be the first time I’d ever heard of it.  Can you point to any articles in which this has been cited?  It seems to me a simple toweling off of one’s clubs is sufficent to keep them "clean enough." Unless, of course, you’re one of those fanatical people who washes his hands 75 times a day, and wears a surgeon’s mask at work to keep from breathing everyone else’s germs, and sprays down the telephone receiver with Lysol after each time YOU talk into it. I repeat my question:  Unless you’re using your 8-iron as an eating utensil at the dinner table, why do you consider it necessary to "sanitize" it after a round?  Why is it not enough to simply remove the mud and dirt (unless we’re talking about "cleaning" the grips)?  Is your newborn baby teething on your lob wedge?  (I would understand the need to sanitize it then, though I’d suggest you to find something more suitable for the child’s purpose.) It just strikes me as very curious. And oh, by the way, the ultrasound method does not "sanitize" the clubs. It merely does an effective job of getting the oily stuff (persperation, etc.) off the grips by "loosening" it a bit from the pores in the rubber.  It doesn’t do much more than a towel would at cleaning the clubheads, other than possibly getting some of the dirt from the grooves that a casual wipe with a towel might miss on the first pass. For those wishing to "clean" their clubs, a hand brush (plastic bristles) in some soapy dishwater works quite well.  (Be sure to rinse off the soap suds and towel dry the shaft and clubhead.)  But if you towel off the clubs as you use them, this type of cleaning is unecessary.  Unless, of course, you’re gonna butter your dinner rolls with your 3-iron.  Some would say that’s all it’s good for, and I’m not sure I’d argue with them. Randy

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Frankly, if I had all those concerns about golf, I’d never step outside. There are creepy crawlies EVERYWHERE. — Randy        Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com        BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com  "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Welcome to the kinder and gentler RSG where if Randy never heard of it, then it never happened. Poison Ivy is ubiquitous. People get it off of cats, dogs, golf clubs, and long dead Poison Ivy plants because a dead plant is still full of the resin. If one is susceptible to Poison Ivy and all some people need to do is walk past some, they need balance the cost of golf balls against the cost of medications. Tom, Poison Ivy is not ubiquitous, we do not have it here in the UK and I believe it only exists in North America. And what about claws, very small creatures, walking under a skin and drinking your blood, very common in Europe , bringing some health risks as a virus carrier ? Jacek

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Welcome to the kinder and gentler RSG where if Randy never heard of it, then it never happened.

Lookit, Mr. "Kinder and Gentler," I asked a simple question.  I read all the golf magazines.  I keep up on all the golfstuff on websites, etc., etc., and I’ve NEVER heard of anyone getting Poison Ivy from their golf clubs.  I’ve read articles about the dangers of pesticides, snakes, over-exposure to the elements and other things that golfers should be aware of.  Yet I’ve never seen an article where we’ve been warned that our golf clubs could give us poison ivy. I didn’t say such an article has never been published.  I merely asked if you could point me to it.  I would be interested to learn about such a thing (even though, thank God, I’m not allergic to poison ivy). Poison Ivy is ubiquitous. People get it off of cats, dogs, golf clubs, and long dead Poison Ivy plants because a dead plant is still full of the

resin. I’m not doubting you.  I just asked whether there’s been an article in which there was discussion about people getting it from their golf clubs.  I never refuted your claim. If anyone here is being a little overly sensitive, it’s you. If one is susceptible to Poison Ivy and all some people need to do is walk past some, they need balance the cost of golf balls against the cost of medications.

Okay, I’ll buy that.  Not being allergic to poison ivy, I’ve never had to worry about such things.  I’ve probably walked through it a million times and never felt a thing.  I’m lucky, I know. So I learned something.  There’s no need to get huffy. Randy

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Welcome to the kinder and gentler RSG where if Randy never heard of it, then it never happened. Poison Ivy is ubiquitous. People get it off of cats, dogs, golf clubs, and long dead Poison Ivy plants because a dead plant is still full of the resin. If one is susceptible to Poison Ivy and all some people need to do is walk past some, they need balance the cost of golf balls against the cost of medications. Tom, Poison Ivy is not ubiquitous, we do not have it here in the UK and I believe it only exists in North America.

And what about claws, very small creatures, walking under a skin and drinking your blood, very common in Europe , bringing some health risks as a virus carrier ? Jacek

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Welcome to the kinder and gentler RSG where if Randy never heard of it, then it never happened. Poison Ivy is ubiquitous. People get it off of cats, dogs, golf clubs, and long dead Poison Ivy plants because a dead plant is still full of the resin. If one is susceptible to Poison Ivy and all some people need to do is walk past some, they need balance the cost of golf balls against the cost of medications.

Tom, Poison Ivy is not ubiquitous, we do not have it here in the UK and I believe it only exists in North America. Alan Campbell

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Just curious on avaliability of club head/grif/ball cleaning detergents/ sprays/ foams/desinfectants or mayby even golf club turbo wachine machines applied on a daily basis and after the season. Think that golf ball/club head ultrasonic wash machine would be welcome by most golfers at golf workshop or at entrance to club house. I really don’t like to wash club head with a brush manually. If interested i can test ultrasonic washing of club heads and balls. Jacek

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Have you ever considered just keeping a wet towel on your golf bag and wiping off you clubheads as you replace them in your bag after a shot? Seems much simpler (and far less expensive). Randy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just curious on avaliability of club head/grif/ball cleaning detergents/ sprays/ foams/desinfectants or mayby even golf club turbo wachine machines applied on a daily basis and after the season. Think that golf ball/club head ultrasonic wash machine would be welcome by most golfers at golf workshop or at entrance to club house. I really don’t like to wash club head with a brush manually. If interested i can test ultrasonic washing of club heads and balls. Jacek

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There can be some bad stuff on golf course so wanting to do more than wiping off the club heads is valid. A dumb thing people do is using a club to poke around the weeds looking for a ball. Really nice way to transfer Poison Ivy from the plant to you.

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There can be some bad stuff on golf course so wanting to do more than wiping off the club heads is valid. A dumb thing people do is using a club to poke around the weeds looking for a ball. Really nice way to transfer Poison Ivy from the plant to you.

If not your club, then what would you use to poke around in the weeds?  Your hands?  Your feet (risking a snake bite)?  Poking around with the club is the ONLY sensible thing to do, unless you just wish to not even attempt to look. Frankly, I’ve never heard of anyone getting poison ivy from their golf clubs.  Maybe it happens, but it would be the first time I’d ever heard of it.  Can you point to any articles in which this has been cited?  It seems to me a simple toweling off of one’s clubs is sufficent to keep them "clean enough." Unless, of course, you’re one of those fanatical people who washes his hands 75 times a day, and wears a surgeon’s mask at work to keep from breathing everyone else’s germs, and sprays down the telephone receiver with Lysol after each time YOU talk into it. I repeat my question:  Unless you’re using your 8-iron as an eating utensil at the dinner table, why do you consider it necessary to "sanitize" it after a round?  Why is it not enough to simply remove the mud and dirt (unless we’re talking about "cleaning" the grips)?  Is your newborn baby teething on your lob wedge?  (I would understand the need to sanitize it then, though I’d suggest you to find something more suitable for the child’s purpose.) It just strikes me as very curious. And oh, by the way, the ultrasound method does not "sanitize" the clubs.  It merely does an effective job of getting the oily stuff (persperation, etc.) off the grips by "loosening" it a bit from the pores in the rubber.  It doesn’t do much more than a towel would at cleaning the clubheads, other than possibly getting some of the dirt from the grooves that a casual wipe with a towel might miss on the first pass. For those wishing to "clean" their clubs, a hand brush (plastic bristles) in some soapy dishwater works quite well.  (Be sure to rinse off the soap suds and towel dry the shaft and clubhead.)  But if you towel off the clubs as you use them, this type of cleaning is unecessary.  Unless, of course, you’re gonna butter your dinner rolls with your 3-iron.  Some would say that’s all it’s good for, and I’m not sure I’d argue with them. Randy

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Why? I know that "cleanliness is next to Godliness" and all that, but are you using your 8-iron as an eating utensil at the dinner table? Why the concern over "sanitizing" your clubs? Just wondering. — Randy        Randy’s personal play space – www.YouGoGolf.com        BOSS AUDIO – www.RandyBrownProductions.com  "I wonder if illiterate people get the full effect of alphabet soup?"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Have you ever considered just keeping a wet towel on your golf bag and wiping off you clubheads as you replace them in your bag after a shot? Seems much simpler (and far less expensive). That’s right. But by the end of a tour I would like to put my clubs into ultrasonic washing machine and get them 100% washed and desinfected. How often do you wash your wet towel kept on your golf bag ? So I mean washing club heads and balls, not only wiping off. Jacek Randy Just curious on avaliability of club head/grif/ball cleaning detergents/ sprays/ foams/desinfectants or mayby even golf club turbo wachine machines applied on a daily basis and after the season. Think that golf ball/club head ultrasonic wash machine would be welcome by most golfers at golf workshop or at entrance to club house. I really don’t like to wash club head with a brush manually. If interested i can test ultrasonic washing of club heads and balls. Jacek

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Have you ever considered just keeping a wet towel on your golf bag and wiping off you clubheads as you replace them in your bag after a shot? Seems much simpler (and far less expensive).

That’s right. But by the end of a tour I would like to put my clubs into ultrasonic washing machine and get them 100% washed and desinfected. How often do you wash your wet towel kept on your golf bag ? So I mean washing club heads and balls, not only wiping off. Jacek – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Randy Just curious on avaliability of club head/grif/ball cleaning detergents/ sprays/ foams/desinfectants or mayby even golf club turbo wachine machines applied on a daily basis and after the season. Think that golf ball/club head ultrasonic wash machine would be welcome by most golfers at golf workshop or at entrance to club house. I really don’t like to wash club head with a brush manually. If interested i can test ultrasonic washing of club heads and balls. Jacek

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