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If you could, I would like to read your tips. Anything about keeping golfers moving would be appreciated. Thanks Ranger Rick – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We wrote up a sheet of tips to help with the pace of play on our course. It list the very basic procedures for ready golf and suggestions on how to play at a faster pace. It has helped and we continue to monitor the pace of play. Dave — The Rules Have Changed…Get Paid to Surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=FNZ098
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Why wait until "your away" to hit if you’re playing "ready golf?" If you’re on the opposite side of the fairway (and ready) from the guy who is away (but not ready), why not hit?
excellent point. we do that often, although sometimes i get superstitious and won’t hit until i’m away. another problem is honors on the tee. whoever is ready first, hits first. i always tell the guys i’m playing with that if they’re ready hit it, even though i may have honors. i don’t care when i hit the ball. charlie Before you buy.
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Why wait until "your away" to hit if you’re playing "ready golf?" If you’re on the opposite side of the fairway (and ready) from the guy who is away (but not ready), why not hit?
Alot of times, we actually hit at the same time… dsc – acssysdsc
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I could not have said it better. Slow play is because of Inconsiderate Golfers. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there anything in print on this topic? Something like: "Ten Steps to Fast Play". I always wondered why the pro shops don’t hand out a little card with tips for fast play to each golfer as he (she) signs in. Isn’t it in everyones best interest? Some people are just ignorant about the concept. I learned it at an early age playing golf with my father, simple thing like where to set my clubs when I get to the green and getting ready for my shot when the other guy is hitting so I’d be ready. But many take up golf later in life are never schooled on the "concept". What seems like common sense is not so common it seems. Steve In my experiance slow play is never about simply not knowing how to "play faster". as a result tips like this are a waist of time. Slow play is almost always about a compleate inability to notice what is going on around you, or simply not caring. I don’t know how many times I’ve been stuck with slow players who, even after I have pointed out that we are holding up the group behind us, insist on stopping and getting beer from the cart, and taking a year to do it. Chatting with the beer cart girl, making sure that every one "has something" Asking for a compleat menue, "…do you have sandwitches? Oh yeah…what kind? Can I get that with brown mustard?" Or going through their compleat 5 minute preshot routine for a 10 foot putt, leavening it 6 feet short, and doing it again. The point is that slow players just don’t notice or don’t care. Point out that were are holding back a group and they slow down even more. suggest that we let them play through and they get annoyed. Funny part is that on the rare occasion that they are in front of a group even slower and watch them get hopping mad. — The DeMented Golfer Golf spelled backwards is flog Rick DeMent "Time to pull a quick Hank Snow." RSG roll call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/dementr.htm To reply remove the XX from my E-mail address
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David, how about posting here that list of –Pace of Play– items. I’ll copy it and leave it at every course that I play. Maybe they will copy it and POST it and , as someone suggested, give it out to every golfer! Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We wrote up a sheet of tips to help with the pace of play on our course. It list the very basic procedures for ready golf and suggestions on how to play at a faster pace. It has helped and we continue to monitor the pace of play. Dave — The Rules Have Changed…Get Paid to Surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=FNZ098
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Rick, <snip The point is that slow players just don’t notice or don’t care. Point out that were are holding back a group and they slow down even more. suggest that we let them play through and they get annoyed. Funny part is that on the rare occasion that they are in front of a group even slower and watch them get hopping mad.
Bingo. I think you hit the nail right on the head. I agree with other posters that at a good number of courses slow play is contributed to by management cramming too many players on the course too quickly. However, I’ve played plenty of places where tee times are spread out far enough that that’s not the problem causing slow play. Nothing is worse that getting put in a group where some of the players go into "high dither". Two weeks ago my wife and I got paired with another couple. The wife was a beginner (so at least she had an excuse) and the husband just plain dithered around. He was never ready to hit and when he finally got around to addressing his ball he stood over it forever before he finally swung. He must have had 300 swing thoughts going through his head before he drew the club back. I turned to my wife at one point and told her I thought he had developed vapor lock. About the third hole, I saw the marshall making his rounds. He stopped and asked me how things were going. I just shook my head and told him I thought we’d be seeing him alot before we were done. Whew!!! I feel better now. Kenny Stultz http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm
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I still think the major reason for slow play isn’t the players, it’s the number of golfers that management puts out on the course per hour. You can have a backup after the third group if the tee times are too close – and it will last all day! If you ever have an "early" tee time and you are 10 minutes late teeing off because of the group ahead of you, bet on a 5+ hour round. David
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<< good story of the tale of two golf rounds snipped I cannot understand how people can play a 6 hour round (or a three-hour nine, like I would have had to do on Tuesday if we stayed behind that group). You can bet the next time I go out to sneak in a quick round after work I’ll head for South.
This is one of the primary reasons why I refuse to play or sub in a golf league. Every league without exception is a 3 hour nine hole torture test. I’d be on the tee on some downhill par-3 and watch in disbelieve four guys on the green scoping out their putts at every conceivable angle like it was the final putt to win the U.S. Open. Of course, the worst scenario is following these guys in 95degF heat. Hit ‘em Good!!! JB – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Chris Before you buy.
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Is there anything in print on this topic? Something like: "Ten Steps to Fast Play". I always wondered why the pro shops don’t hand out a little card with tips for fast play to each golfer as he (she) signs in. Isn’t it in everyones best interest? Some people are just ignorant about the concept. I learned it at an early age playing golf with my father, simple thing like where to set my clubs when I get to the green and getting ready for my shot when the other guy is hitting so I’d be ready. But many take up golf later in life are never schooled on the "concept". What seems like common sense is not so common it seems. Steve
In my experiance slow play is never about simply not knowing how to "play faster". as a result tips like this are a waist of time. Slow play is almost always about a compleate inability to notice what is going on around you, or simply not caring. I don’t know how many times I’ve been stuck with slow players who, even after I have pointed out that we are holding up the group behind us, insist on stopping and getting beer from the cart, and taking a year to do it. Chatting with the beer cart girl, making sure that every one "has something" Asking for a compleat menue, "…do you have sandwitches? Oh yeah…what kind? Can I get that with brown mustard?" Or going through their compleat 5 minute preshot routine for a 10 foot putt, leavening it 6 feet short, and doing it again. The point is that slow players just don’t notice or don’t care. Point out that were are holding back a group and they slow down even more. suggest that we let them play through and they get annoyed. Funny part is that on the rare occasion that they are in front of a group even slower and watch them get hopping mad. — The DeMented Golfer Golf spelled backwards is flog Rick DeMent "Time to pull a quick Hank Snow." RSG roll call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/dementr.htm To reply remove the XX from my E-mail address
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Why wait until "your away" to hit if you’re playing "ready golf?" If you’re on the opposite side of the fairway (and ready) from the guy who is away (but not ready), why not hit? (Maybe he had to wait on another to finish a shot before he could start getting ready. Isn’t that what ready golf is? Whoever is "ready" hits. Ray
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems to me that virtually all the pace-of-play problems would be fixed by simply playing ready golf. Capslock * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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It seems to me that virtually all the pace-of-play problems would be fixed by simply playing ready golf. If people would just be ready for their shot when it’s their turn, it almost doesn’t matter if they study a put like they’re Jack Nicklaus, or shank one or two into the trees. It’s the people who don’t think about their shot, or even go near their ball, until it’s their turn that are the problem. Capslock
I solved all pace of play problems by getting in a quick nine this afternoon. It’s chilly, windy, and sometimes rainy today in the Detroit area, so the courses are empty. With my own private course, I played nine holes in 55 minutes. No waiting on the tee. No helping playing partners find their balls. No marking balls on the green and avoiding others’ lines. Just me and the course. Given the conditions, my 44 wasn’t a bad score for me. The rough was nearly impenetrable. My short game improved dramatically over yesterday after over a month off, and I got off the course before the rains returned. So bad weather = good pace. If only I could find a way to replay today’s lousy forecast on the local news the next time it’s sunny out… Joe
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We wrote up a sheet of tips to help with the pace of play on our course. It list the very basic procedures for ready golf and suggestions on how to play at a faster pace. It has helped and we continue to monitor the pace of play. Dave — The Rules Have Changed…Get Paid to Surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=FNZ098
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It seems to me that virtually all the pace-of-play problems would be fixed by simply playing ready golf. If people would just be ready for their shot when it’s their turn, it almost doesn’t matter if they study a put like they’re Jack Nicklaus, or shank one or two into the trees. It’s the people who don’t think about their shot, or even go near their ball, until it’s their turn that are the problem. Capslock * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Golf Magazine had a "10 Things you can do to speed up Play" in one of their issues last year. It suggested things like not reading putts from 5 different angles, allowing the group behind you to hit on Par 3’s while you are on the green etc. etc. Slow play to me is frustrating only because it spoils my tempo. I have played rounds that have taken about 3 hours where I have played good golf under tough conditions, whereas on nice sunny days when everyone and his cousin is on the course, I wish I had stayed home. Some of the nicer courses in the NW are so crowded that a 5+ hour round is very typical. The worst part is, most courses don’t seem to care. By the 3rd or 4th hole, our group would have lost interest and start doing silly things (like using the putter off the tee 
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there anything in print on this topic? Something like: "Ten Steps to Fast Play". I always wondered why the pro shops don’t hand out a little card with tips for fast play to each golfer as he (she) signs in. Isn’t it in everyones best interest? Some people are just ignorant about the concept. I learned it at an early age playing golf with my father, simple thing like where to set my clubs when I get to the green and getting ready for my shot when the other guy is hitting so I’d be ready. But many take up golf later in life are never schooled on the "concept". What seems like common sense is not so common it seems. Steve This week, I’ve played four days in a row for the first time in 12 years or so. Longest time? 2:15. Ahhhhhhh, I love it. :-) Bruce $*%&# you ! 
I need to move, I hear Chattanooga is nice… — –dph. (preferred email: dhayes AT iname DOT com) Before you buy.
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Is there anything in print on this topic? Something like: "Ten Steps to Fast Play". I always wondered why the pro shops don’t hand out a little card with tips for fast play to each golfer as he (she) signs in. Isn’t it in everyones best interest? Some people are just ignorant about the concept. I learned it at an early age playing golf with my father, simple thing like where to set my clubs when I get to the green and getting ready for my shot when the other guy is hitting so I’d be ready. But many take up golf later in life are never schooled on the "concept". What seems like common sense is not so common it seems. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This week, I’ve played four days in a row for the first time in 12 years or so. Longest time? 2:15. Ahhhhhhh, I love it. :-) Bruce $*%&# you ! I need to move, I hear Chattanooga is nice… — –dph. (preferred email: dhayes AT iname DOT com) Before you buy.
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<snip Slow play is the most frustrating thing I can think of on a golf course. When I walk with one other player, if the course is empty, I can get around in 2:45 easily. If I’m hurrying along, maybe even 2:15. I walked nine holes by myself once in 50 minutes. I can tolerate slower play (like 4 hours for 18 holes) but for the life of me I cannot understand how people can play a 6 hour round (or a three-hour nine, like I would have had to do on Tuesday if we stayed behind that group). You can bet the next time I go out to sneak in a quick round after work I’ll head for South. Chris
The most frustrating thing for me is that many courses seem to have given up on expecting a reasonable pace. I have had starters/rangers express shock when my group finishes in under 4 hours. I have played on courses that pay lip-service to pace of play but then don’t back it up with warnings and expulsions. — –dph. (preferred email: dhayes AT iname DOT com) Before you buy.
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This week, I’ve played four days in a row for the first time in 12 years or so. Longest time? 2:15. Ahhhhhhh, I love it. :-) Bruce
$*%&# you ! I need to move, I hear Chattanooga is nice… — –dph. (preferred email: dhayes AT iname DOT com) Before you buy.
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This week, I’ve played four days in a row for the first time in 12 years or so. Longest time? 2:15. Ahhhhhhh, I love it. :-) Bruce RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/newmanb.htm
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I found it fascinating to see what different experiences I had at sister courses, just two days apart from each other. On Tuesday, I played at Bowling Green Country Club (North Course) in Front Royal, VA. My dad and I teed off at 4:20. With darkness not supposed to be settling in until after 8, and with the late day time, I figured we’d easily get in 18. We teed off on the back nine since we saw a fivesome about to start the front. We got around the back by about 6:00 or so and headed for the front nine. It is important to note that when we arrived the parking lot was barren, but when we made the turn there were maybe 20 cars in the parking lot. It took us 40 minutes to play the first two holes of the front. The twosome in front of us were pathetically bad players that thought they were amazingly good. On #3, they waited 10+ minutes for the green to clear. They were 300 yards away from the green and one was hitting an iron. Neither of them even got to the 200-yd markers. At that point, we gave up on trying to play the holes in order and skipped to #6 (nearby) since there was an open #5. We ran into the same roadblock there, this time a terribly slow foursome. This group had the herd philosophy of golf. Every one went to everyone else’s shot. On the green, they all lined up everyone elses putt so it took forever. Neither of these slow groups waved us through despite the fact there appeared to be open holes right in front of them or in front of the group in front of them. After that, we just kind of skipped around on the course, never playing several holes and left the course thourougly disgusted (at least I did - it didn’t seem to bother my dad that much). Yesterday, I went out to BG South Course, the newer and usually busier sister course of North. I arrived just before six. Fatigued from a long day at work, I decided to ride (unusual for me). I paid the nine- hole cart rate and hoped that there would be enough time for that. There were a good number of cars in the parking lot, but no one on #1. There was a group of walkers getting ready to play the first hole that invited me to go in front of them, which I appreciated. I flew around the front nine. There were some other groups out there, but no one right in front of me. The first sign of life I saw in front of me was a cart that was parked at the #9 tee box when I drove up to #7 green. I made the turn (still figuring to run into traffic) and started to fly through the back nine. Caught that cart on #14 and he (another single) invited me to join him. Even as a twosome, we cruised through the rest of the nine and easily finished 18. As we drove to the 18th tee he told me it was 7:25, so I figure we were done by 7:35 at the latest. 18 holes in a little over an hour and a half, starting later than I did two days before on a usually busier course. And yes, I did fess up as to how many holes I played to the guy running the course. He laughed and said "No problem, glad you could do it". Slow play is the most frustrating thing I can think of on a golf course. When I walk with one other player, if the course is empty, I can get around in 2:45 easily. If I’m hurrying along, maybe even 2:15. I walked nine holes by myself once in 50 minutes. I can tolerate slower play (like 4 hours for 18 holes) but for the life of me I cannot understand how people can play a 6 hour round (or a three-hour nine, like I would have had to do on Tuesday if we stayed behind that group). You can bet the next time I go out to sneak in a quick round after work I’ll head for South. Chris Before you buy.