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Check their website for courses near you. www.americangolf.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Randy, Do you know if American Golf publishes any kind of list of their courses nationwide?  Ability to use the rain check somewhere relatively local will likely make or break my decision on whether to come.  I’m sure there are others that would appreciate it as well. Thanks Chris I have reached an agreement in principle with American Golf to hold RSG-ATLANTA 2K2 at two of their nicer golf courses in metro Atlanta the weekend of July 13-14, 2002.  I am awaiting the contract now, which should arrive any day.  I expect to sign it in the next few days. Looks like the total package price for the weekend will come to around $200, give or take, which includes two rounds of golf Saturday (with lunch in between the two rounds), bowling Saturday night, a round of golf on Sunday and a small service charge to cover expenses (including a small handout). I’ll keep the price on the latter down as low as possible.  Though we’re past haggling over the rate for golf, I still need to hammer out what the tax is going to be, and how much bowling lane rental will be Saturday night. (You all are a very high maintenance group.)  <g The folks at American Golf have told me they are willing to issue Corporate Passes as rain checks should we get rained out.  This was the biggest reason I selected their venues over others.  As you know, typically when a golfer gets rained out, golf courses rarely refund the money.  Instead, they issue rain checks.  For those of you visiting Atlanta from out of town, a rain check at an Atlanta course wouldn’t do you much good, and it’s a risk I was never terribly comfortable with last year.  But we got lucky with the weather.  I couldn’t ask you to take that risk again.  American Golf has courses pretty much everywhere around the USA (most of you are probably within an hour or two-hours’ drive of at least one of their facilities). Their willingness to offer corporate rain checks, redeemable at their other public and semi-private clubs around the country, in the event we get rained out, gave them a huge edge over other potential venues.  I’d hate to see everyone’s money get washed away in a rain storm.  (Hopefully, it won’t rain, and this will be a moot point.  But a little insurance never hurt.) So, unless something unexpected happens, I am pleased to announce that we will be playing 36 holes on Saturday, July 13th at The Golf Club at Bradshaw Farm in Woodstock, GA, and the Sunday Singles matches on the morning of Sunday, July 14th at The Trophy Club of Atlanta (which is actually not in Atlanta, it’s in Alpharetta, GA). In the coming weeks, I’ll firm up the exact package price — tax, title and license — and let you know.  Those of you who have already tentatively committed to attend will also receive private e-mail updates (except Steve Stemmer, whose e-mail keeps bouncing back to me — Steve, if you’re reading In the next month or so, I’ll have hole descriptions, etc. up on the website.  If I get really industrious, I may even post hole diagrams so you can print out your own little yardage book. David Laville will be pleased to know that the greens at Bradshaw are not as quick as what we saw last year at Mystery Valley and Windermere.  But it’s February.  By July, they may be quicker.  The greens at Bradshaw are bermuda (but they’re very good).  The greens at Trophy Club are bent, and I’ve seen them running very quick. I played Bradshaw today with MAERST (who is a very nice man), and I do believe everyone will enjoy this place.  It will surely look nicer after everything turns green and the trees have leaves on them again.  Bradshaw Farm has three nines, which will enable them to get our large group off fairly quickly and finished in time to have lunch before teeing off again for the afternoon round Saturday.  Plus, it’s only about a 12 mile (20 minute) drive from the hotel.  And I know you’ll like Trophy Club.  It’s one of my favorite places to play.  Trophy Club is a straight shot down the street from where the hotel is located, maybe a 7 minute drive, tops. Trophy Club is a lovely, typical Georgia golf layout, designed by Steve Melnyk.  Though I’m not a member there, I consider it my home course, since I play most of my golf there.  The back nine is really neat.  Holes 13-15 are ones you will long remember (for better or for worse).  I love the place.  Both courses have excellent practice facilities.  Neither course is terribly penal, so our higher handicappers won’t feel like they’re facing an impossible challenge.  A good mix of short and long holes.  You certainly don’t have to be a bomber to score well at Trophy Club, but there are some holes there you’d better bring your driver.  Our lower handicappers will find both courses offer sufficient strategic challenge to keep them on their toes. I imagine most folks will arrive on that Friday, but for those who might choose to come in a day earlier, I may set up a smaller group at another course so we can get the kinks out of our swings on Friday midday.  Anyone interested in that should let me know.  I know of at least a couple of places we can probably get on fairly easily. More details soon as this thing begins to come together. (Don’t ask what I shot with MAERST today.  Suffice it to say we enjoyed the day.) Randy                 Troll intolerant.  I took the RSG 2002 Pledge.    Please see RSG Usenet Ignore Penalty (UIP) concerning trolls:                     http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/                "Smoke ‘em out … dead or alive, I don’t care."                                            - G. Bush                I do not patronize those who advertise in RSG.       RSG-ATLANTA 2002 – www.YouGoGolf.com/rsga.org                   Golf on the web – www.YouGoGolf.com

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Chris, you’re in Winchester, VA, and I’m not exactly sure where that is, but here’s their list of properties in Virginia:       VA       Bristow Bristow Manor Golf Club public 18       Gainsville Virginia Oaks Golf Club semi 18       Midlothian Brandermill Country Club private 18       Norfolk Ocean View Golf Course public 18       Reston Reston National Golf Course public 18       Williamsburg Kiskiack Golf Club public 18 I’m not exactly sure whether their "corporate pass" will get you on the private course, but as I understand it (and I haven’t actually seen the contract yet), it should (according to the guy I’ve spoken to) get you on at their public and semi-private courses. Again, if we don’t get rained out, it’s all a moot point.  I just figured that by going with American Golf (which owns about as many courses as anybody), y’all would have a better chance of getting something for your money *if* we do get rained out.  (Heaven forbid.) Of course, they have hundreds of courses across the USA and in the UK.  I would assume these passes might have an expiration date (don’t know how long they’d be good for, but I’d guess it’s a year, maybe six months), and if there’s nothing near you, you could always use it on your next vacation. Randy                 Troll intolerant.  I took the RSG 2002 Pledge.    Please see RSG Usenet Ignore Penalty (UIP) concerning trolls:                     http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/                "Smoke ‘em out … dead or alive, I don’t care."                                            - G. Bush                I do not patronize those who advertise in RSG.       RSG-ATLANTA 2002 – www.YouGoGolf.com/rsga.org                   Golf on the web – www.YouGoGolf.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Randy, Do you know if American Golf publishes any kind of list of their courses nationwide?  Ability to use the rain check somewhere relatively local will likely make or break my decision on whether to come.  I’m sure there are others that would appreciate it as well. Thanks Chris I have reached an agreement in principle with American Golf to hold RSG-ATLANTA 2K2 at two of their nicer golf courses in metro Atlanta the weekend of July 13-14, 2002.  I am awaiting the contract now, which should arrive any day.  I expect to sign it in the next few days. Looks like the total package price for the weekend will come to around $200, give or take, which includes two rounds of golf Saturday (with lunch in between the two rounds), bowling Saturday night, a round of golf on Sunday and a small service charge to cover expenses (including a small handout). I’ll keep the price on the latter down as low as possible.  Though we’re past haggling over the rate for golf, I still need to hammer out what the tax is going to be, and how much bowling lane rental will be Saturday night. (You all are a very high maintenance group.)  <g The folks at American Golf have told me they are willing to issue Corporate Passes as rain checks should we get rained out.  This was the biggest reason I selected their venues over others.  As you know, typically when a golfer gets rained out, golf courses rarely refund the money.  Instead, they issue rain checks.  For those of you visiting Atlanta from out of town, a rain check at an Atlanta course wouldn’t do you much good, and it’s a risk I was never terribly comfortable with last year.  But we got lucky with the weather.  I couldn’t ask you to take that risk again.  American Golf has courses pretty much everywhere around the USA (most of you are probably within an hour or two-hours’ drive of at least one of their facilities). Their willingness to offer corporate rain checks, redeemable at their other public and semi-private clubs around the country, in the event we get rained out, gave them a huge edge over other potential venues.  I’d hate to see everyone’s money get washed away in a rain storm.  (Hopefully, it won’t rain, and this will be a moot point.  But a little insurance never hurt.) So, unless something unexpected happens, I am pleased to announce that we will be playing 36 holes on Saturday, July 13th at The Golf Club at Bradshaw Farm in Woodstock, GA, and the Sunday Singles matches on the morning of Sunday, July 14th at The Trophy Club of Atlanta (which is actually not in Atlanta, it’s in Alpharetta, GA). In the coming weeks, I’ll firm up the exact package price — tax, title and license — and let you know.  Those of you who have already tentatively committed to attend will also receive private e-mail updates (except Steve Stemmer, whose e-mail keeps bouncing back to me — Steve, if you’re reading In the next month or so, I’ll have hole descriptions, etc. up on the website.  If I get really industrious, I may even post hole diagrams so you can print out your own little yardage book. David Laville will be pleased to know that the greens at Bradshaw are not as quick as what we saw last year at Mystery Valley and Windermere.  But it’s February.  By July, they may be quicker.  The greens at Bradshaw are bermuda (but they’re very good).  The greens at Trophy Club are bent, and I’ve seen them running very quick. I played Bradshaw today with MAERST (who is a very nice man), and I do believe everyone will enjoy this place.  It will surely look nicer after everything turns green and the trees have leaves on them again. Bradshaw Farm has three nines, which will enable them to get our large group off fairly quickly and finished in time to have lunch before teeing off again for the afternoon round Saturday.  Plus, it’s only about a 12 mile (20 minute) drive from the hotel.  And I know you’ll like Trophy Club.  It’s one of my favorite places to play.  Trophy Club is a straight shot down the street from where the hotel is located, maybe a 7 minute drive, tops. Trophy Club is a lovely, typical Georgia golf layout, designed by Steve Melnyk.  Though I’m not a member there, I consider it my home course, since I play most of my golf there.  The back nine is really neat.  Holes 13-15 are ones you will long remember (for better or for worse).  I love the place.  Both courses have excellent practice facilities.  Neither course is terribly penal, so our higher handicappers won’t feel like they’re facing an impossible challenge.  A good mix of short and long holes.  You certainly don’t have to be a bomber to score well at Trophy Club, but there are some holes there you’d better bring your driver.  Our lower handicappers will find both courses offer sufficient strategic challenge to keep them on their toes. I imagine most folks will arrive on that Friday, but for those who might choose to come in a day earlier, I may set up a smaller group at another course so we can get the kinks out of our swings on Friday midday. Anyone interested in that should let me know.  I know of at least a couple of places we can probably get on fairly easily. More details soon as this thing begins to come together. (Don’t ask what I shot with MAERST today.  Suffice it to say we enjoyed the day.) Randy                 Troll intolerant.  I took the RSG 2002 Pledge.    Please see RSG Usenet Ignore Penalty (UIP) concerning trolls:                     http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/                "Smoke ‘em out … dead or alive, I don’t care."                                            - G. Bush                I do not patronize those who advertise in RSG.       RSG-ATLANTA 2002 – www.YouGoGolf.com/rsga.org                   Golf on the web – www.YouGoGolf.com

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Randy, Do you know if American Golf publishes any kind of list of their courses nationwide?  Ability to use the rain check somewhere relatively local will likely make or break my decision on whether to come.  I’m sure there are others that would appreciate it as well.

Try this: http://www.americangolf.com/about/portfolio.cfm# If that doesn’t work, go to www.americangolf.com, then click on the last picture on the right across the top of the screen ("about us"), then click on "portfolio."  It lists all their properties. I’m not sure about the accuracy of these listings.  I clicked on the link for Trophy Club of Atlanta, and it shows the course as being only 4470 yards long.  LOL!  I’m a short-knocker, but I’m not THAT short, and I promise you, the course is longer than that.  About 6,000 from the blues, and about 6,700 from the golds.  Then it shows Bradshaw at 4947 yards, which is wrong, too. Maybe they’re measuring from the women’s/seniors’ tees.  I dunno.  But the 18 holes I played today was about 6400, and it was all the golf I could ever want. Randy

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Randy, Do you know if American Golf publishes any kind of list of their courses nationwide?  Ability to use the rain check somewhere relatively local will likely make or break my decision on whether to come.  I’m sure there are others that would appreciate it as well. Thanks Chris

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have reached an agreement in principle with American Golf to hold RSG-ATLANTA 2K2 at two of their nicer golf courses in metro Atlanta the weekend of July 13-14, 2002.  I am awaiting the contract now, which should arrive any day.  I expect to sign it in the next few days. Looks like the total package price for the weekend will come to around $200, give or take, which includes two rounds of golf Saturday (with lunch in between the two rounds), bowling Saturday night, a round of golf on Sunday and a small service charge to cover expenses (including a small handout). I’ll keep the price on the latter down as low as possible.  Though we’re past haggling over the rate for golf, I still need to hammer out what the tax is going to be, and how much bowling lane rental will be Saturday night. (You all are a very high maintenance group.)  <g The folks at American Golf have told me they are willing to issue Corporate Passes as rain checks should we get rained out.  This was the biggest reason I selected their venues over others.  As you know, typically when a golfer gets rained out, golf courses rarely refund the money.  Instead, they issue rain checks.  For those of you visiting Atlanta from out of town, a rain check at an Atlanta course wouldn’t do you much good, and it’s a risk I was never terribly comfortable with last year.  But we got lucky with the weather.  I couldn’t ask you to take that risk again.  American Golf has courses pretty much everywhere around the USA (most of you are probably within an hour or two-hours’ drive of at least one of their facilities). Their willingness to offer corporate rain checks, redeemable at their other public and semi-private clubs around the country, in the event we get rained out, gave them a huge edge over other potential venues.  I’d hate to see everyone’s money get washed away in a rain storm.  (Hopefully, it won’t rain, and this will be a moot point.  But a little insurance never hurt.) So, unless something unexpected happens, I am pleased to announce that we will be playing 36 holes on Saturday, July 13th at The Golf Club at Bradshaw Farm in Woodstock, GA, and the Sunday Singles matches on the morning of Sunday, July 14th at The Trophy Club of Atlanta (which is actually not in Atlanta, it’s in Alpharetta, GA). In the coming weeks, I’ll firm up the exact package price — tax, title and license — and let you know.  Those of you who have already tentatively committed to attend will also receive private e-mail updates (except Steve Stemmer, whose e-mail keeps bouncing back to me — Steve, if you’re reading In the next month or so, I’ll have hole descriptions, etc. up on the website.  If I get really industrious, I may even post hole diagrams so you can print out your own little yardage book. David Laville will be pleased to know that the greens at Bradshaw are not as quick as what we saw last year at Mystery Valley and Windermere.  But it’s February.  By July, they may be quicker.  The greens at Bradshaw are bermuda (but they’re very good).  The greens at Trophy Club are bent, and I’ve seen them running very quick. I played Bradshaw today with MAERST (who is a very nice man), and I do believe everyone will enjoy this place.  It will surely look nicer after everything turns green and the trees have leaves on them again.  Bradshaw Farm has three nines, which will enable them to get our large group off fairly quickly and finished in time to have lunch before teeing off again for the afternoon round Saturday.  Plus, it’s only about a 12 mile (20 minute) drive from the hotel.  And I know you’ll like Trophy Club.  It’s one of my favorite places to play.  Trophy Club is a straight shot down the street from where the hotel is located, maybe a 7 minute drive, tops. Trophy Club is a lovely, typical Georgia golf layout, designed by Steve Melnyk.  Though I’m not a member there, I consider it my home course, since I play most of my golf there.  The back nine is really neat.  Holes 13-15 are ones you will long remember (for better or for worse).  I love the place.  Both courses have excellent practice facilities.  Neither course is terribly penal, so our higher handicappers won’t feel like they’re facing an impossible challenge.  A good mix of short and long holes.  You certainly don’t have to be a bomber to score well at Trophy Club, but there are some holes there you’d better bring your driver.  Our lower handicappers will find both courses offer sufficient strategic challenge to keep them on their toes. I imagine most folks will arrive on that Friday, but for those who might choose to come in a day earlier, I may set up a smaller group at another course so we can get the kinks out of our swings on Friday midday.  Anyone interested in that should let me know.  I know of at least a couple of places we can probably get on fairly easily. More details soon as this thing begins to come together. (Don’t ask what I shot with MAERST today.  Suffice it to say we enjoyed the day.) Randy                 Troll intolerant.  I took the RSG 2002 Pledge.    Please see RSG Usenet Ignore Penalty (UIP) concerning trolls:                     http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/                "Smoke ‘em out … dead or alive, I don’t care."                                            - G. Bush                I do not patronize those who advertise in RSG.       RSG-ATLANTA 2002 – www.YouGoGolf.com/rsga.org                   Golf on the web – www.YouGoGolf.com

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I have reached an agreement in principle with American Golf to hold RSG-ATLANTA 2K2 at two of their nicer golf courses in metro Atlanta the weekend of July 13-14, 2002.  I am awaiting the contract now, which should arrive any day.  I expect to sign it in the next few days. Looks like the total package price for the weekend will come to around $200, give or take, which includes two rounds of golf Saturday (with lunch in between the two rounds), bowling Saturday night, a round of golf on Sunday and a small service charge to cover expenses (including a small handout). I’ll keep the price on the latter down as low as possible.  Though we’re past haggling over the rate for golf, I still need to hammer out what the tax is going to be, and how much bowling lane rental will be Saturday night. (You all are a very high maintenance group.)  <g The folks at American Golf have told me they are willing to issue Corporate Passes as rain checks should we get rained out.  This was the biggest reason I selected their venues over others.  As you know, typically when a golfer gets rained out, golf courses rarely refund the money.  Instead, they issue rain checks.  For those of you visiting Atlanta from out of town, a rain check at an Atlanta course wouldn’t do you much good, and it’s a risk I was never terribly comfortable with last year.  But we got lucky with the weather.  I couldn’t ask you to take that risk again.  American Golf has courses pretty much everywhere around the USA (most of you are probably within an hour or two-hours’ drive of at least one of their facilities). Their willingness to offer corporate rain checks, redeemable at their other public and semi-private clubs around the country, in the event we get rained out, gave them a huge edge over other potential venues.  I’d hate to see everyone’s money get washed away in a rain storm.  (Hopefully, it won’t rain, and this will be a moot point.  But a little insurance never hurt.) So, unless something unexpected happens, I am pleased to announce that we will be playing 36 holes on Saturday, July 13th at The Golf Club at Bradshaw Farm in Woodstock, GA, and the Sunday Singles matches on the morning of Sunday, July 14th at The Trophy Club of Atlanta (which is actually not in Atlanta, it’s in Alpharetta, GA). In the coming weeks, I’ll firm up the exact package price — tax, title and license — and let you know.  Those of you who have already tentatively committed to attend will also receive private e-mail updates (except Steve Stemmer, whose e-mail keeps bouncing back to me — Steve, if you’re reading In the next month or so, I’ll have hole descriptions, etc. up on the website.  If I get really industrious, I may even post hole diagrams so you can print out your own little yardage book. David Laville will be pleased to know that the greens at Bradshaw are not as quick as what we saw last year at Mystery Valley and Windermere.  But it’s February.  By July, they may be quicker.  The greens at Bradshaw are bermuda (but they’re very good).  The greens at Trophy Club are bent, and I’ve seen them running very quick. I played Bradshaw today with MAERST (who is a very nice man), and I do believe everyone will enjoy this place.  It will surely look nicer after everything turns green and the trees have leaves on them again.  Bradshaw Farm has three nines, which will enable them to get our large group off fairly quickly and finished in time to have lunch before teeing off again for the afternoon round Saturday.  Plus, it’s only about a 12 mile (20 minute) drive from the hotel.  And I know you’ll like Trophy Club.  It’s one of my favorite places to play.  Trophy Club is a straight shot down the street from where the hotel is located, maybe a 7 minute drive, tops. Trophy Club is a lovely, typical Georgia golf layout, designed by Steve Melnyk.  Though I’m not a member there, I consider it my home course, since I play most of my golf there.  The back nine is really neat.  Holes 13-15 are ones you will long remember (for better or for worse).  I love the place.  Both courses have excellent practice facilities.  Neither course is terribly penal, so our higher handicappers won’t feel like they’re facing an impossible challenge.  A good mix of short and long holes.  You certainly don’t have to be a bomber to score well at Trophy Club, but there are some holes there you’d better bring your driver.  Our lower handicappers will find both courses offer sufficient strategic challenge to keep them on their toes. I imagine most folks will arrive on that Friday, but for those who might choose to come in a day earlier, I may set up a smaller group at another course so we can get the kinks out of our swings on Friday midday.  Anyone interested in that should let me know.  I know of at least a couple of places we can probably get on fairly easily. More details soon as this thing begins to come together. (Don’t ask what I shot with MAERST today.  Suffice it to say we enjoyed the day.) Randy                 Troll intolerant.  I took the RSG 2002 Pledge.    Please see RSG Usenet Ignore Penalty (UIP) concerning trolls:                     http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/                "Smoke ‘em out … dead or alive, I don’t care."                                            - G. Bush                I do not patronize those who advertise in RSG.       RSG-ATLANTA 2002 – www.YouGoGolf.com/rsga.org                   Golf on the web – www.YouGoGolf.com

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