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Clara writes- 3. Why roses such as Bing Crosby and Bob Hope are still in general circulation continues to surprise me. *** Oh great. I think I ordered ‘Bing’ this year…
<Snicker It is commonly believed that people in ARS are older than dirt ("I encountered the usual sea of gray hairs, blue hair and foreheads invading carefully brushed back hair…."); *** I’ve been thinking about coloring my hair blue… do you suppose that idea entered my subconcious from hanging around rose people?
***With all the chemicals you and the Paula plonk in your hair, I’m amazed you have any left. Probably feels like straw too. I suggest you both go green next. Green is my favorite color. yet the buying public still exists for performers who exited decades ago or disappeared from the public eye. *** Burt Lancaster… sigh
***Sheesh! I suppose you have him hanging somewhere on your wall? Perhaps rose growers aside from the ARS are old as well. *** SUZANNE! can I plonk him for that?
***Hell, you can quadruple-plonk him! Is it a good thing that roses are now being named after Whoopi and Barbra or is it a tribute to the comparative youth of the hybridizers or the generational change in the buying public? *** it’s like lead in gasoline… fifty years ago, they knew they didn’t need it, but they could patent lead additives and not the ethanol-alcohol stuff. HENCE! two thousands tons of lead are pumped into the air we breathe, etc., etc., every day, lead doesn’t break down like other things, lead is lead is lead… it’s all about money, see? Money Talks. If it was a generational change thing, somebody’d be naming roses for Bono.
***Bono? Who be Bono? Oh, I get it – you mean Sonny Bono. The one who plonked himself into a tree on a ski slope and landed Sunny-side up, right? Suzanne
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Clearly I’ve stumbled into the wrong newsgroup. Could someone direct me to the old one? I’ve been gone for a few months, until the trolls got tired, and I guess I missed out where the old group went. There’s a lot of names missing. The old group was mellow-friendly and certainly not testy–you know–regular rose people. Posts were not automatically challenged, etc….nor looked for something to take exception to…..searching for the "fatal flaw"…. Anyway, if there’s anyone with their ears on who can tell where those other folks went, I’d appreciate it. *** Clearly, that would make the Rest Of Us, what????? Chopped Liver? *** Regular rose people are not testy? Why, those genteel souls come very close to blows sometimes at rose society meetings. It’s even better at a Board meeting… my, my, my… you can cut the tension with a knife. Sounds like you’re a good candidate for The Special List For Selected Serious Rose People. I’m sure a representative will contact you shortly.
The other thing is, if you check Deja, the list of people posting here last spring and summer is not too different from the list posting here now. Not that I ever do the Deja thing.
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Both deserved even lower ratings. Real dogs. Too bad that many times lousy roses are named for famous people to sell them.
Maybe Mack could make one of his famous lists: dogs named after the rich and famous? So far we have: Bing Bob Hope Lucille Ball Gracie Allen Barbra Bush…
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Linda OR 7-8 Hello sweetie.
Darlin’ Wild Bill, it may sound egotistical of me, but do you know that wasn’t me? I live in Oregon too, but I spell my name Lynda and I am forthgb. Or does my foot reside fimrly and squarely in my mouth? forthgb, in springfield oregon lynda "I am woman hear me roar, I am husband whatthelldidyousay?"
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So far we have: Bing Bob Hope Lucille Ball Gracie Allen Barbra Bush…
add John F. Kennedy forthgb, in springfield oregon lynda "I am woman hear me roar, I am husband whatthelldidyousay?"
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*** Regular rose people are not testy? Why, those genteel souls come very close to blows sometimes at rose society meetings. It’s even better at a Board meeting… my, my, my… you can cut the tension with a knife. Sounds like you’re a good candidate for The Special List For Selected Serious Rose People. I’m sure a representative will contact you shortly.
Neener neener neener. Which people are those? –Cass
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<snip It is commonly believed that people in ARS are older than dirt ("I encountered the usual sea of gray hairs, blue hair and foreheads invading carefully brushed back hair….");
Ha! you’ll never see *gray* hairs in Texas, it’s against the law and the cops are tough down here. People don’t go gray here, they go blonde usually. Blue hair is OK, in Deep Ellum and the West End of Dallas.. *** I’ve been thinking about coloring my hair blue… do you suppose that idea entered my subconcious from hanging around rose people?
You could go blue with black streaks. That would be phat. <snip *** Burt Lancaster… sigh ***Sheesh! I suppose you have him hanging somewhere on your wall?
Will you send him to me when you get tired of him? Can *always* find room for one of those. <snip
-Bren
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Hello sweetie. Well, it’s about time this group had a Moderator to keep all those dag-nabbed trolls outta here. Especially one who calls me sweetie. Keep up the good work. Linda
I do my best. It’s tough work to keep this place clean, what with all the thorns and dirt and stuff.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes Ok, I almost get the impression that I’m the only one on rgr that participates most years, anyway, in the Roses in Review Survey that members of ARS are asked to fill out .— Time to ‘fess up. Grouch included. I think it’s fun, myself. Linda OR 7-8 Hello sweetie.
Hey!
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(snip) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 3. Why roses such as Bing Crosby and Bob Hope are still in general circulation continues to surprise me. It is commonly believed that people in ARS are older than dirt ("I encountered the usual sea of gray hairs, blue hair and foreheads invading carefully brushed back hair…."); yet the buying public still exists for performers who exited decades ago or disappeared from the public eye. Perhaps rose growers aside from the ARS are old as well. Is it a good thing that roses are now being named after Whoopi and Barbra or is it a tribute to the comparative youth of the hybridizers or the generational change in the buying public? JD
I just looked up Bing Crosby & Bob Hope (Bing sends his best, BTW), and I didn’t know ratings could go that LOW! Bing Crosby, 4.7, Bob Hope, 5.1–never seen either one, and wish I could… I’d think that anything that could muster an occasional bloom on the end of a stem would rate higher. (Probably a grower should come up with a new BH.) (A little-known story–those two really were best friends–every year they’d take a quiet little vacation together, always to the same place. And they’d play golf every day for a week at the Victoria GC Country Club, a jewel that overlooks the sound, in Victoria BC.) This just is another demonstration of the typical lover of roses is a romantic, emotional pushover. They will do everything–possibly up to and including CPR, to save a rose that they liked–they will finally say "I shovel-pruned that baby." with studied indifference, yet the truth is, it’s taken them 3 or more seasons to bring themselves to do it… Of course, the afore-mentioned doesn’t include me–I just happen to like blackspot and weak-necked, spindly roses…… Linda OR 7-8
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*** Clearly, that would make the Rest Of Us, what????? Chopped Liver?
Pate. JD
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Hello sweetie.
Well, it’s about time this group had a Moderator to keep all those dag-nabbed trolls outta here. Especially one who calls me sweetie. Keep up the good work. Linda
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (snip) 3. Why roses such as Bing Crosby and Bob Hope are still in general circulation continues to surprise me. It is commonly believed that people in ARS are older than dirt ("I encountered the usual sea of gray hairs, blue hair and foreheads invading carefully brushed back hair…."); yet the buying public still exists for performers who exited decades ago or disappeared from the public eye. Perhaps rose growers aside from the ARS are old as well. Is it a good thing that roses are now being named after Whoopi and Barbra or is it a tribute to the comparative youth of the hybridizers or the generational change in the buying public? JD I just looked up Bing Crosby & Bob Hope (Bing sends his best, BTW), and I didn’t know ratings could go that LOW! Bing Crosby, 4.7, Bob Hope, 5.1–never seen either one, and wish I could… I’d think that anything that could muster an occasional bloom on the end of a stem would rate higher. (Probably a grower should come up with a new BH.)
Both deserved even lower ratings. Real dogs. Too bad that many times lousy roses are named for famous people to sell them. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(A little-known story–those two really were best friends–every year they’d take a quiet little vacation together, always to the same place. And they’d play golf every day for a week at the Victoria GC Country Club, a jewel that overlooks the sound, in Victoria BC.) This just is another demonstration of the typical lover of roses is a romantic, emotional pushover. They will do everything–possibly up to and including CPR, to save a rose that they liked–they will finally say "I shovel-pruned that baby." with studied indifference, yet the truth is, it’s taken them 3 or more seasons to bring themselves to do it… Of course, the afore-mentioned doesn’t include me–I just happen to like blackspot and weak-necked, spindly roses…… Linda OR 7-8
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says… Clearly I’ve stumbled into the wrong newsgroup to…..searching for the "fatal flaw"…. Actually, I think you were right. I, for one, too easily dismissed your inquiry. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. 1. I did fill out the form on the ARS website which facilitated the process to the extent that the usual search for envelope and stamp was truncated.
*** anything to save a lousy thirty-three cents… sheeeesh… talk about cheap! 2. As usual, understanding which roses appear on the list and which do not is beyond my ken.
*** Mine, too… the last time I tried to fill the thing out, I found I grew only two or three of them! Nevertheless I diligently attempted to assess the roses that I do grow. The idea of a maximum half point up or down was an innovation that occasioned much discussion at the time and my own initial reaction was favorable.
*** Math has never been my strong suit 3. Why roses such as Bing Crosby and Bob Hope are still in general circulation continues to surprise me.
*** Oh great. I think I ordered ‘Bing’ this year… It is commonly believed that people in ARS are older than dirt ("I encountered the usual sea of gray hairs, blue hair and foreheads invading carefully brushed back hair….");
*** I’ve been thinking about coloring my hair blue… do you suppose that idea entered my subconcious from hanging around rose people? yet the buying public still exists for performers who exited decades ago or disappeared from the public eye.
*** Burt Lancaster… sigh Perhaps rose growers aside from the ARS are old as well.
*** SUZANNE! can I plonk him for that? Is it a good thing that roses are now being named after Whoopi and Barbra or is it a tribute to the comparative youth of the hybridizers or the generational change in the buying public?
*** it’s like lead in gasoline… fifty years ago, they knew they didn’t need it, but they could patent lead additives and not the ethanol-alcohol stuff. HENCE! two thousands tons of lead are pumped into the air we breathe, etc., etc., every day, lead doesn’t break down like other things, lead is lead is lead… it’s all about money, see? Money Talks. If it was a generational change thing, somebody’d be naming roses for Bono.
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x-no-archive: yes Ok, I almost get the impression that I’m the only one on rgr that participates most years, anyway, in the Roses in Review Survey that members of ARS are asked to fill out .— Time to ‘fess up. Grouch included. I think it’s fun, myself.
Since the list of participants is published, you should be able to read and recognize some names. In short no, you are not the only one. -Dave-
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Clearly I’ve stumbled into the wrong newsgroup. Could someone direct me to the old one? I’ve been gone for a few months, until the trolls got tired, and I guess I missed out where the old group went. There’s a lot of names missing. The old group was mellow-friendly and certainly not testy–you know–regular rose people. Posts were not automatically challenged, etc….nor looked for something to take exception to…..searching for the "fatal flaw"…. Anyway, if there’s anyone with their ears on who can tell where those other folks went, I’d appreciate it. Thanks, Linda
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Since the list of participants is published, you should be able to read and recognize some names. In short no, you are not the only one.
Amen. JD
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Clearly I’ve stumbled into the wrong newsgroup. Could someone direct me to the old one? I’ve been gone for a few months, until the trolls got tired, and I guess I missed out where the old group went. There’s a lot of names missing. The old group was mellow-friendly and certainly not testy–
Really? How long ago was this? you know–regular rose people. Posts were not automatically challenged, etc….nor looked for something to take exception to…..searching for the "fatal flaw"…. Anyway, if there’s anyone with their ears on who can tell where those other folks went, I’d appreciate it.
I’d like to know too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks, Linda
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"Ok, I almost get the impression that I’m the only one on rgr that participates most years, anyway, in the Roses in Review Survey…" I participate every year and comment on many more roses than the average bear.
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x-no-archive: yes Ok, I almost get the impression that I’m the only one on rgr that participates most years, anyway, in the Roses in Review Survey that members of ARS are asked to fill out .— Time to ‘fess up. Grouch included. I think it’s fun, myself. Linda OR 7-8
Hello sweetie.
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Clearly I’ve stumbled into the wrong newsgroup to…..searching for the
"fatal flaw"…. Actually, I think you were right. I, for one, too easily dismissed your inquiry. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. 1. I did fill out the form on the ARS website which facilitated the process to the extent that the usual search for envelope and stamp was truncated. 2. As usual, understanding which roses appear on the list and which do not is beyond my ken. Nevertheless I diligently attempted to assess the roses that I do grow. The idea of a maximum half point up or down was an innovation that occasioned much discussion at the time and my own initial reaction was favorable. 3. Why roses such as Bing Crosby and Bob Hope are still in general circulation continues to surprise me. It is commonly believed that people in ARS are older than dirt ("I encountered the usual sea of gray hairs, blue hair and foreheads invading carefully brushed back hair…."); yet the buying public still exists for performers who exited decades ago or disappeared from the public eye. Perhaps rose growers aside from the ARS are old as well. Is it a good thing that roses are now being named after Whoopi and Barbra or is it a tribute to the comparative youth of the hybridizers or the generational change in the buying public? JD
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Clearly I’ve stumbled into the wrong newsgroup. Could someone direct me to the old one? I’ve been gone for a few months, until the trolls got tired, and I guess I missed out where the old group went. There’s a lot of names missing. The old group was mellow-friendly and certainly not testy–you know–regular rose people. Posts were not automatically challenged, etc….nor looked for something to take exception to…..searching for the "fatal flaw"…. Anyway, if there’s anyone with their ears on who can tell where those other folks went, I’d appreciate it.
*** Clearly, that would make the Rest Of Us, what????? Chopped Liver? *** Regular rose people are not testy? Why, those genteel souls come very close to blows sometimes at rose society meetings. It’s even better at a Board meeting… my, my, my… you can cut the tension with a knife. Sounds like you’re a good candidate for The Special List For Selected Serious Rose People. I’m sure a representative will contact you shortly.
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Clearly I’ve stumbled into the wrong newsgroup. Could someone direct me to the old one? I’ve been gone for a few months, until the trolls got tired, and I guess I missed out where the old group went. There’s a lot of names missing. The old group was mellow-friendly and certainly not testy–you know–regular rose people. Posts were not automatically challenged, etc….nor looked for something to take exception to…..searching for the "fatal flaw"…. Anyway, if there’s anyone with their ears on who can tell where those other folks went, I’d appreciate it. *** Clearly, that would make the Rest Of Us, what????? Chopped Liver?
Maybe the place he is looking for is the Rose Forum. bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -*** Regular rose people are not testy? Why, those genteel souls come very close to blows sometimes at rose society meetings. It’s even better at a Board meeting… my, my, my… you can cut the tension with a knife. Sounds like you’re a good candidate for The Special List For Selected Serious Rose People. I’m sure a representative will contact you shortly.
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JimD writes- 3. Why roses such as Bing Crosby and Bob Hope are still in general circulation continues to surprise me. It is commonly believed that people in ARS are older than dirt ("I encountered the usual sea of gray hairs, blue hair and foreheads invading carefully brushed back hair…."); yet the buying public still exists for performers who exited decades ago or disappeared from the public eye. Perhaps rose growers aside from the ARS are old as well. Is it a good thing that roses are now being named after Whoopi and Barbra or is it a tribute to the comparative youth of the hybridizers or the generational change in the buying public?
***’Cuse me (like that apostrophe?), but Whoopi and Barbra are both over age 50. You meant to suggest Lee Ann Rimes, didn’t you? And don’t forget Great Scott. Suzanne
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Clearly I’ve stumbled into the wrong newsgroup. Could someone direct me to the old one? I’ve been gone for a few months, until the trolls got tired, and I guess I missed out where the old group went. There’s a lot of names missing. The old group was mellow-friendly and certainly not testy–you know–regular rose people. Posts were not automatically challenged, etc….nor looked for something to take exception to…..searching for the "fatal flaw"…. Anyway, if there’s anyone with their ears on who can tell where those other folks went, I’d appreciate it. *** Clearly, that would make the Rest Of Us, what????? Chopped Liver?
Minced, sweetie, minced. *** Regular rose people are not testy? Why, those genteel souls come very close to blows sometimes at rose society meetings. It’s even better at a Board meeting… my, my, my… you can cut the tension with a knife. Sounds like you’re a good candidate for The Special List For Selected Serious Rose People. I’m sure a representative will contact you shortly.
ML