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> This kind of charlatan clatrap has been going on for 400 years, handed > on from parent to child, publishing house to publishing house… > I suppose I’m laying this on a little thick maybe. I’ll stop now. > Whatdya think, Ida? > — > simon my head’s not empty, it’s full with my brain
I’m not worrying as much about it anymore 
Thanks for your hard work. Ida
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Don’t panic!!!!!!! THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why don’t you skeptics go to Washington state and ask William Gates why he built his house for fallout survival?????? He goes to the same country club/golf course we do when we are up there.(fabulous food! ) He lives off lake Washington perhaps you might take a lake cruise and see his beauty for yourselves! Eat the wild salmon while your’e there.(actually you won’t know the dfference unless you have a distinguished palate). Perhaps it’s just an obsession of mine but I believe some salmon to taste well rather moldy and smooshy. Yuuueeekk Uer itles fluer jesnaipek wosiet nads makt!!!!! Forever darling!!!!!
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In article <CFY6EHAW8md3E…@cake2.demon.co.uk>, simon smith <c…@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes >Okay, another quatrain this person picked out to justify his/her beliefs. >This one’s about Hitler! >——– ><<Bestes farouches de faim fleuves tranner, >Plus part du champ encontre Ister sera, >En cage de fer le grand sera traisner, >Quand rien enfant Germain observera. >Century 2:24 >Wild beasts will be crossing the river because of hunger, >Most of the battlefield will be against Hitler, >In cages of iron, battle tanks, will he send his great army,
I forgot to say in the previous post that of course this ‘he will send his great army’ has been just added on to the end of the line – it is nowhere in Nostradamus’s French verse. It’s a fabrication. ‘Nuff. — simon ICQ 30920733
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In article <7l1au3$1o…@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>, Bill & Ida Kern <clooney…@mindspring.com> writes >This is one of the websites I checked out >http://www1.lynxx.net/jseguin/index.html >My mom’s been telling this stuff since I was a kid. >Ida
This one’s just silly. No research even needed! Quote: ————— <<Nostradamus also wrote about the English Adventure into the new world. It was a world which was discovered only a few years before his own birth. He wrote on the subject pertaining to the Independence of the British colonies which was the war of Independence whereby France and America, who were considered as British colonies, seceded from great Britain. Se liberera des Isles Britanique, Will be liberated from (the domination) of the British Isles. Let’s study quatrain ninety six of Century four which was written two hundred years before the American revolution ever took place on that continent. La soeur aisnee de l’Isle Britannique, Quinze ans devant le frere aura naissance, Par son promis moyennant verrifique, Succedera au regne de Balance. Century 4:96 The British Island’s oldest sister, Shall be born fifteen years before the brother, By a truthful promise made to her, Her reign shall be successful while Libra’s presence is felt. The above mentioned prophecy suggests quite clearly that America, the eldest daughter, shall gain its independence before France, its brother. The United States gained its independence from Britain in 1776 and France gained theirs in 1791 which was fifteen years later and which occurred exactly as prophesied by the great Seer. >> ————– I mean sure, yeah, like France was ‘considered’ (by whom? – no one actually) a British colony, yeah, right, okay and probably, like uh so was like Russia and Germany and the Moon and Mars… Oh well, you know… and *of course* – little known historical fact here – the French Revolution was in 1791! Yes! Not 1789 after all! Every history book ever written is lying to you! This kind of charlatan clatrap has been going on for 400 years, handed on from parent to child, publishing house to publishing house… I suppose I’m laying this on a little thick maybe. I’ll stop now. Whatdya think, Ida? — simon my head’s not empty, it’s full with my brain
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In article <7l1au3$1o…@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>, Bill & Ida Kern <clooney…@mindspring.com> writes >This is one of the websites I checked out >http://www1.lynxx.net/jseguin/index.html >My mom’s been telling this stuff since I was a kid. >Ida
Okay, another quatrain this person picked out to justify his/her beliefs. This one’s about Hitler! ——– <<Bestes farouches de faim fleuves tranner, Plus part du champ encontre Ister sera, En cage de fer le grand sera traisner, Quand rien enfant Germain observera. Century 2:24 Wild beasts will be crossing the river because of hunger, Most of the battlefield will be against Hitler, In cages of iron, battle tanks, will he send his great army, When the child of Germany observes no law. The above quatrain is very remarkable because it depicts Hitler as a great dictator during his reign, during world war two. He conquered many countries of Europe by utilizing his numerous cages of iron which were his battle tanks. He was the child of Germany mentioned in the prophecy and as we know he observed no laws but his own.>> ——– What does this quatrain actually say? ‘Beasts made wild by hunger cross the rivers ‘Most of the (battle??)field will be against/border on the Ister [remember 'Hister' is the Latin name for the Danube that Nostradamus uses elsewhere] ‘In Iron cages/pens the great (river, obviously) will be crossed When the German child observes/respects nothing’ So we have wild beasts crossing the Great River Danube in iron cages or pens (in French the word ‘cage’ means either), when the German child/child of Germany observes or respects nothing. You must remember that during Nostradamus’ lifetime Germany was more than once at war with France, Nostadamus’ homeland. You can choose to believe that Nostra was not referring to these wars but to 500 years ahead, if he was referring to wars at all; you can choose to believe that the ‘iron cages’ are tanks, and not cages/pens for animals, which is the obvious way to make sense of the words… I dunno – do you think that predicts Hitler? You can do if you choose… I know it’s confusing, but any scholar will tell you that Nostradamus wrote to be confusing – he wrote deliberately in a vague and obscure way. I’m confused, you’re confused (I hope)… but tanks?, Hitler?… — simon My head’s not empty, it’s full with my brain
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Just curious, how much Luvox are you taking and for how long have you taken it? Did it help? What symptoms are you having that makes you think it is too strong??? What else have you been on? ji – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -denny wrote in message <3773b…@nntp.logicsouth.com>… > Can anyone give me an alternative medicine here? >Also need medicine that isn’t as strong for OCD
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No a Friend is on lovox and some other medicine to control their OCD. My friend is not the same person since they started taking the medicine and I am really curious about alternative medicines so that it might help. My Friend used to be really happy then they started to take the med and then they got really depressed then they started taking the other and got really happy but not the same happy. Understand??? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ji wrote in message … >Just curious, how much Luvox are you taking and for how long have you taken >it? Did it help? What symptoms are you having that makes you think it is >too strong??? What else have you been on? ji >denny wrote in message <3773b…@nntp.logicsouth.com>… >> Can anyone give me an alternative medicine here? >>Also need medicine that isn’t as strong for OCD
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In article <7l1au3$1o…@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>, Bill & Ida Kern <clooney…@mindspring.com> writes >This is one of the websites I checked out >http://www1.lynxx.net/jseguin/index.html >My mom’s been telling this stuff since I was a kid. >Ida
Okay – I’ve had a quick look at this website. (I hope you read the other posting I made quoting the sceptical approach.) I read the page relating to the supposed predictions of by Nostradamus of Napoleon. It all read like conjecture at the very best, but I decided to check the facts concerning just *one* section. This is the only section I went and checked. It said: —— <<In 1809, a new spirit of resistance was awakening and it was then that Austria decided to challenge the French army. During that same year, Napoleon married the Archduchess of Austria, Marie Louise. The marriage eventually produced a son who was born on the twenty of March in 1811. Their son died at age twenty from leprosy. Nostradamus wrote a quatrain pertaining to that grievous incident for the Bonaparte family. "Le mineur fils du grand et hay prince, De lepre aura a vingt ans grande tache, De deuil sa mere moura bien triste et mince, Et il moura la ou tombe chef lasche." Century 4:7 "The young son of the great one, the much hated prince, Shall die from leprosy at the age of twenty, While in mourning, his mother shall also die, being very sad, thin and sorrowful, And he shall die of that loose flesh disease." Napoleon the second, son of Napoleon the first and of his second wife Marie Louise, had been named King of Rome from the first day of his birth. He unfortunately died from leprosy at the early manhood age of twenty. His mother also met her death while in mourning because she was unable to cope with the death of her unique son. >> ——- This story told with such authority, eh? Well fuck it NO!! I check the Encyclopaedia Brittannica – Napoleon and Marie-Louise’s son *was* born in 1811, but he did *not* die of leprosy at the age of 20, he died of Tuberculosis. By then Marie-Louise had remarried and had had two more children. She had anyway been estranged from Napoleon for many years before he died. She did *not* then die of mourning for the first of her three sons – she died *fifteen* years later, in 1847. So the author of this site has been looking around for *something* that he/she could use to prove the prediction of Napoleon by Nostradamus, sees… ‘Aha! Son of a hated prince dying at 20! That’ll do! (out of 950 quatrains) – Napoleon, who was kind of a prince sort of, had a son who died at 20… now, how do we deal with the rest of this that doesn’t quite fit? *I know!* We’ll lie! No one will check after all! Whoopee! Then we can do some more lying and stuff and scare people shitless with our apocalyptical prophecies! Praise the lord! This kind of thing really makes me want to puke. I’ll probably do some more of this stuff, masochist that I am with *far* too much time on my hands. — simon ICQ 30920733
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In article <3772c03e$0$…@nntp1.ba.best.com>, n…@com.org writes >Imagine my disappointment, when, as a Church of the Subgenius member, >I failed to be taken up during the Rupture last July 5th. So much for >my groundless faith in self-styled spiritual leaders and their forcasts!
Infidel! It’s this year you fool! Last time was just a dry run for the suckers and pink infiltrators! ‘Bob’ was merely ’shuffling the deck’. Make sure you’ve paid your dues and be ready 7.00 am local time *wherever you are*! — simon smith ‘You’ll PAY to know what you really believe!’
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This is one of the websites I checked out http://www1.lynxx.net/jseguin/index.html My mom’s been telling this stuff since I was a kid. Ida – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -simon smith wrote in message … >In article <7krs7d$4f…@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, Bill & Ida Kern ><clooney…@mindspring.com> writes >>I’m hoping his previous predictions that came true are just a fluke >Ida – perhaps you could say which ones these are? It’s very hard for me >to see that Nostradamus made any real predictions at all, given the >vagueness and obscurity of what he wrote. >It’s weird – he was a Frenchman, yet none of his followers managed to >use his writings to predict the First or Second World Wars, which you >would have thought would have bothered him a bit, given how they >affected his country. >In fact there is no record of anyone using Nostradamus to predict >*anything* before the actual event. Weird, huh? >– >simon
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Imagine my disappointment, when, as a Church of the Subgenius member, I failed to be taken up during the Rupture last July 5th. So much for my groundless faith in self-styled spiritual leaders and their forcasts! On a more serious note, my former spouse had me going for a while with all the talk of the "End Times." I was genuinely concerned and tried to keep my "religion right." After those predictions started falling, my skepticism grew. Now, I treat such things as campfire stories for gullible adults (no smugness intended here) and go on with life. If there is a major catastrophe and the world ends, there must be something better to go to anyway. Or is there… nemo Laura Suzanne Hanton <Freespi…@currantbun.com> wrote: : Hi, : I worry about Nostradamus things constantly. You don’t know how much it : freaks me out. I tell people about it and they say I’m being daft, but : obviously the ocd probably makes it worse. : What I have read about Nostradamus concerns the eclipse of the sun in August : and what will happen on that day and the days after. : I am terrified about this. I just pray that it is not true and that he is : wrong. : It doesn’t stop me from thinking the worst though. : Laura : avatar wrote in message <376E38F3.86AD4…@yahoo.com>…
:>I was looking at a Nostradamus site (what the heck was I thinking) and :>it made me very paranoid. Now it mentioned something about July of 1999 :>and how something big might happen. Please I don’t want the world to :>end and I don’t want to die. Have any of his predictions come true in :>the past? Has he had any misses? I don’t want nukes going off or any :>war or terrorist attack. And July is about a week and a half away. :>Please god let this be false!! aaaahhh!!! Please help me. Thanks. :>
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Simon , your posts show your brilliance! DaVinci only could imagine such a beautiful brain.!!!!!!! And Shakespear only reach in endless yearning. There are but few great minds.
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Can anyone give me an alternative medicine here? Also need medicine that isn’t as strong for OCD
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In article <7krs7d$4f…@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, Bill & Ida Kern <clooney…@mindspring.com> writes >I’m hoping his previous predictions that came true are just a fluke
Ida – perhaps you could say which ones these are? It’s very hard for me to see that Nostradamus made any real predictions at all, given the vagueness and obscurity of what he wrote. It’s weird – he was a Frenchman, yet none of his followers managed to use his writings to predict the First or Second World Wars, which you would have thought would have bothered him a bit, given how they affected his country. In fact there is no record of anyone using Nostradamus to predict *anything* before the actual event. Weird, huh? — simon
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I was never into Nostradamus until I read this post a few days ago. I wanted to find out what I was missing out on so I checked out a few websites. His prophecies really scared the piss out of me. The only consolation I can offer is this: his predictions go on for many years beyond this, so even if the July 20 "King of Terror" prediction comes true, I don’t think it will be the end of the world. I am worried a little about WW3 starting but I guess the only thing I can do about this is pray. I also read about the "Great earthquake" and how everyone thought it was going to happen in 1988 but now they say it is going to happen in May of 2021. I figure I will be 60 by then. I’m hoping his previous predictions that came true are just a fluke but even if they are not, then his other prophecies about the wonderful afterlife will be true also and that will be something nice to look forward to. Just have to pray I die quick and painlessly. Ida
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http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~btcarrol/skeptic/nostrada.html << Michel Nostradamus was a 16th century French physician and astrologer. His modern followers see him as a prophet. His prophecies have a magical quality for those who study them: they are muddled and obscure before the predicted event, but become crystal clear after the event has occurred. Nostradamus wrote four-line verses (quatrains) in groups of 100 (Centuries). Skeptics consider the "prophecies" of Nostradamus to be mainly gibberish. For example: L’an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois Du ciel viendra grand Roy deffraieur Resusciter le grand Roy d’Angolmois. Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur. The year 1999 seven months From the sky will come the great King of Terror. To resuscitate the great king of the Mongols. Before and after Mars reigns by good luck. (X-72) If something falls from the sky in July, 1999, you can bet Nostradamus will be credited with predicting it, even if nobody can figure out who this Mongol king might be. In fact, if anything interesting happens in the sky in June, July, or August, it will be close enough for the true believer to consider it a confirmation of Nostradamus’ gift. One thing Nostradamus didn’t predict was that he would become a one-man industry in the 20th century. Publishing houses will never go broke printing non-sense claiming to be the latest predictions culled from the manuscripts of Nostradamus. Some claim that Nostradamus predicted the space shuttle disaster. Of course, they didn’t recognize that he had predicted it until it was too late. Here is the passage: D’humain troupeau neuf seront mis a` part, De iugement & conseil separez: Leur sort sera diuise’ en depart, Kappa, Thita, Lambda mors bannis esgarez. From the human flock nine will be sent away, Separated from judgment and counsel: Their fate will be sealed on departure Kappa, Thita, Lambda the banished dead err. Thiokol made the defective O-ring that is blamed for the disaster. The name has a ‘k’, ‘th’ and an ‘l’. What more proof does one need? Never mind that there were seven who died, not nine. The rest is vague enough to fit many different scenarios. True believers, such as Erika Cheetham, believe that Nostradamus foresaw the invention of bombs, rockets, submarines, and airplanes. He predicted the Great Fire of London (1666) and the rise of Adolph Hitler and many other wonders. Skeptics, such as James Randi, cast doubt upon the interpretation of Nostradamus’ quatrains. Here is how Randi and Cheetham read one of the more famous quatrains, allegedly predicting the rise of Adolph Hitler to power in Germany: Bestes farouches de faim fleuves tranner Plus part du champ encore Hister sera En caige de fer le grand sera traisner Quand rien enfant de Germain observa. Cheetham’s version: Beasts wild with hunger will cross the rivers, The greater part of the battle will be against Hitler. He will cause great men to be dragged in a cage of iron, When the son of Germany obeys no law. Randi’s version: Beasts mad with hunger will swim across rivers, Most of the army will be against the Lower Danube. The great one shall be dragged in an iron cage When the child brother will observe nothing. You can read their arguments for yourself, but I’d like to add one thing that neither mentions. ‘Germania’ is a term which refers to an ancient region of Europe, north of the Danube and east of the Rhine. It may also refer to a part of the Roman Empire corresponding to present-day northeastern France and part of Belgium and the Netherlands. To me, both versions of this prophetic poem are gibberish. And why anyone would think Hister refers to Hitler rather than exclusively to an area of the Danube, which even Nostradamians recognize as the common usage of the term in their hero’s day, is beyond me. In conclusion, let me note that there is a video program out known as "Nostradamus: Prophet of Doom." It is a highly uncritical and misleading presentation, mainly rehashing Cheetham’s views, and has been broadcast by A & E in their biography series–a lowlight in an otherwise fairly informative series. James Randi, who has written a critical and skeptical book on the Nostradamus phenomenon, was interviewed for the program, but he claims his views were twisted or ignored. Says Randi I now know what validity I will assign to anything the "Biography" program presents to me in the future, and I hope that my readers will, too. The lack of respect for truth and for the education of the viewers that was demonstrated by the show’s producers, Craig Haffner, Donna Lusitana, and Scott Paddor, will not in the least trouble them; the money is already in the bank, and they just don’t care. Yet, how interesting would a program be that ran through a thousand quatrains, most of which are ludicrously obscure, and showed how each of them either made no sense or could be greatly stretched to fit events that had already occurred? The few "predictions" that seem precise are easily accounted for by coincidence and laws of chance. Any rigorous appraisal of this non-sense would be met with low ratings. Thus, don’t look for such a program to occur in this millennium.>> — simon
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My brother is a big time conspiracy theorist and prophecy nut! He is way into Nostro and the Bible Code. He has freaked the sheesh out of me. He told me about the July thing about 6 months ago and I am starting to get nervous myself. He told me what is supposed to happen but I won’t add to your fear. I will just say this, because of my geographic location, I would be in deep doo doo if it were to happen. But, I remember back in 1988 there was a big prediction by Nostro involving an earthquake that would end the world and NOTHING happened. He has had more misses than hits. I find that stuff interesting, but know that it really kicks up my OCD at the same time. (See my above Feng Shui post) I don’t even want to think about the Y2K thing. I just have to realize that these things are out of my control. I think all this mellinium fever is getting to me sometimes. Lia
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Hi, I worry about Nostradamus things constantly. You don’t know how much it freaks me out. I tell people about it and they say I’m being daft, but obviously the ocd probably makes it worse. What I have read about Nostradamus concerns the eclipse of the sun in August and what will happen on that day and the days after. I am terrified about this. I just pray that it is not true and that he is wrong. It doesn’t stop me from thinking the worst though. Laura – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -avatar wrote in message <376E38F3.86AD4…@yahoo.com>… >I was looking at a Nostradamus site (what the heck was I thinking) and >it made me very paranoid. Now it mentioned something about July of 1999 >and how something big might happen. Please I don’t want the world to >end and I don’t want to die. Have any of his predictions come true in >the past? Has he had any misses? I don’t want nukes going off or any >war or terrorist attack. And July is about a week and a half away. >Please god let this be false!! aaaahhh!!! Please help me. Thanks.
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Hi! I used to be very paronoid about that as well, and still am. I read the same thing about July 1999. I have heard hre has been correct, but also made many mistakes. I am afraid of the end of the world, I dont want to believe its true. Hang in there, its out of our control. Reg
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In article <376E38F3.86AD4…@yahoo.com>, avatar <bluntr…@yahoo.com> writes >I was looking at a Nostradamus site (what the heck was I thinking) and >it made me very paranoid. Now it mentioned something about July of 1999 >and how something big might happen. Please I don’t want the world to >end and I don’t want to die. Have any of his predictions come true in >the past? Has he had any misses? I don’t want nukes going off or any >war or terrorist attack. And July is about a week and a half away. >Please god let this be false!! aaaahhh!!! Please help me. Thanks.
The cult of Nostradamus is a load of bull. http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~btcarrol/skeptic/nostrada.html This page contains a reference to James Randi’s book about this, which sounds as if it might be what you need. — simon
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I was looking at a Nostradamus site (what the heck was I thinking) and it made me very paranoid. Now it mentioned something about July of 1999 and how something big might happen. Please I don’t want the world to end and I don’t want to die. Have any of his predictions come true in the past? Has he had any misses? I don’t want nukes going off or any war or terrorist attack. And July is about a week and a half away. Please god let this be false!! aaaahhh!!! Please help me. Thanks.