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Do you think you have enough game for them?
My story is like that of the midget who walked into the Big and Tall clothing store, when the clerk asked if he could help, the midget replied "no thanks, I’m just visualizing some goals".
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I had heard that Ping was the first to be CAD designed
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CA asked: Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing? Well CA I’ve swung the Mp-33’s against the 14’s, 29’s, Nikes, Hogan Edge and the KZG’s. IMHO the 33’s are the finest blades on planet earth. Here’s more useless info. on the 33’s. They where the first ever clubs to be CAD designed. Three different designs were built and tested over the course of a year before the current model was released. The 33’s are a patented design. Like all Mizuno blades they are made from "A" grade 1020 mild carbon. Many companies won’t use this grade because of cost. (tighter grain pattern) Grain flow forging. Meaning: the head and hosel are all one piece and the grain runs in one direction. (patented) feel, feel, feel U-groves, better ball bite without cutting. spin,spin,spin. Great set-up, nice topline, good bounce angle, superb balance. *note. Mizuno does not build any clubs for any other companies. Tigers, Titleist blades where not I repeat NOT, built by Mizuno. Nor are KZG’s or any others. Regardless of what anyone says. My source: The friggin’ president of Mizuno! Non-declaimer, yes I am affiliate with Mizuno. But, I’m also affiliated with Nike/Precept, Titleist/Cobra, Hogan/Spalding, Cleveland, Callaway etc. etc. etc. Do you really think that there is a component club out there that plays and feels like, as you said , "the real thing".? -ss sale monkey extraordinarie RSG roll call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=shireys
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I had heard that Ping was the first to be CAD designed
Your right Matt. I jumped the gun I should have been more specific , the first forged blade to be CAD design. -ss RSG roll call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=shireys
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CA asked: <snip I do not know if some of the specific characteristics you mention, such as grain flow forging and U-grooves, are exclusive to Mizuno or if they are part of component heads as well.
Well any company can design their heads with U-grooves that’s true, but with all Mizuno blades the U- grooves are standard. You don’t have to special order them. Most companies will not offer U- grooves because of added production cost. As far as grain flow forging, Mizuno is actually a steel company. They produce their own heads and own that specific process. For anyone else to use that type of forging they would have to pay Mizuno for the rights or have Mizuno build them. Nor do I know if they really are valuable or marketing fluff.
"Bigger sweet spot is fluff." A consistent grain pattern and a one piece head isn’t It may be that the design of the head itself is more important. What is the quality of the shaft that comes with the MP-33’s?
The stock shaft is a TT Dynamic Gold non-sensicore. But you can get what ever shaft you want they just don’t recommend a graphite shaft. How customizable is it in terms of not only flex, but kickpoint?
See answer above. If Edwin Watts sells Mizuno, can I assume that they are authorized distributors and can fit the club to my swing (such as it is)?
Yes EW is an authorized dealer. I don’t know about the rest. Do you think you have enough game for them? I don’t know about you, but if I traded in my Comp-EZ’s for a set of 33’s I’d be stratch in a week….ya and monkey’s may fly out my butt. -ss RSG roll call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=shireys
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I tried the MP-33s the other day. They were nice, but not a have to have for me. I played them right after I tried the new Nike Blades. That IMO is one fabulous club. Maybe the Nikes just fit me better, but I liked them more. Would like to compare the Nike pro-combo with the MP-30s. I do love Mizuno irons, the comp-ez’s are currently in my bag and I don’t thing they are coming out any time soon. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snip First of all, thanks for your post. As to your question: "Do you really think that there is a component club out there that plays and feels like, as you said , ‘the real thing’?", I don’t know if there is, that’s why I was asking. Last year I saw several posts from people who had played both the MP-14’s and MP-33’s and liked the MP-14’s better. I have a Mizuno driver and 5-wood and they are nice clubs. Especially nice since I got then for $39.95 brand new at from a closeout bin at Supreme Golf. :) But I bought the driver because my first driver was a McGregor with only 9* of loft and I thought the Mizuno might be a little easier to hit. The truth is, if I swing well I hit both about the same. If I swing poorly I also hit both about the same. I do not know if some of the specific characteristics you mention, such as grain flow forging and U-grooves, are exclusive to Mizuno or if they are part of component heads as well. Nor do I know if they really are valuable or marketing fluff. It may be that the design of the head itself is more important. What is the quality of the shaft that comes with the MP-33’s? How customizable is it in terms of not only flex, but kickpoint? If Edwin Watts sells Mizuno, can I assume that they are authorized distributors and can fit the club to my swing (such as it is)?
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snip First of all, thanks for your post. As to your question: "Do you really think that there is a component club out there that plays and feels like, as you said , ‘the real thing’?", I don’t know if there is, that’s why I was asking. Last year I saw several posts from people who had played both the MP-14’s and MP-33’s and liked the MP-14’s better. I have a Mizuno driver and 5-wood and they are nice clubs. Especially nice since I got then for $39.95 brand new at from a closeout bin at Supreme Golf. :) But I bought the driver because my first driver was a McGregor with only 9* of loft and I thought the Mizuno might be a little easier to hit. The truth is, if I swing well I hit both about the same. If I swing poorly I also hit both about the same. I do not know if some of the specific characteristics you mention, such as grain flow forging and U-grooves, are exclusive to Mizuno or if they are part of component heads as well. Nor do I know if they really are valuable or marketing fluff. It may be that the design of the head itself is more important. What is the quality of the shaft that comes with the MP-33’s? How customizable is it in terms of not only flex, but kickpoint? If Edwin Watts sells Mizuno, can I assume that they are authorized distributors and can fit the club to my swing (such as it is)? — CA Remove NoSpam to email me directly. Troll intolerant. I took the RSG 2002 Pledge.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CA asked: Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing? Well CA I’ve swung the Mp-33’s against the 14’s, 29’s, Nikes, Hogan Edge and the KZG’s. IMHO the 33’s are the finest blades on planet earth. Here’s more useless info. on the 33’s. They where the first ever clubs to be CAD designed. Three different designs were built and tested over the course of a year before the current model was released. The 33’s are a patented design. Like all Mizuno blades they are made from "A" grade 1020 mild carbon. Many companies won’t use this grade because of cost. (tighter grain pattern) Grain flow forging. Meaning: the head and hosel are all one piece and the grain runs in one direction. (patented) feel, feel, feel U-groves, better ball bite without cutting. spin,spin,spin. Great set-up, nice topline, good bounce angle, superb balance. *note. Mizuno does not build any clubs for any other companies. Tigers, Titleist blades where not I repeat NOT, built by Mizuno. Nor are KZG’s or any others. Regardless of what anyone says. My source: The friggin’ president of Mizuno! Non-declaimer, yes I am affiliate with Mizuno. But, I’m also affiliated with Nike/Precept, Titleist/Cobra, Hogan/Spalding, Cleveland, Callaway etc. etc. etc. Do you really think that there is a component club out there that plays and feels like, as you said , "the real thing".? -ss sale monkey extraordinarie RSG roll call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=shireys
Yes, I do….. I’ve played many a cavity back and blade….. the Golfsmith Tour Cavity Pros play and feel like the "real" thing, because they are the real thing….. They play and feel as good or better than any blade I’ve tried…… The GCR testing staff have agreed with me on this… just because it’s got a "brand name" on it, doesn’t mean it’s automatically better than component golf….. and nope, I have no affiliation with GolfSmith, other than reporting http://golfclubreview.com/tour_cavity_pro’s.htm Viker 44
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Buy a set used at ebay for c:a 600 USD and you will never regret it! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just received an Edwin Watts catalog in the mail today and my eye was drawn to the Mizuno MP-33 irons on page 27. I seem to recall some discussion last year about them, but have not seen any comments recently. Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing?
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I just received an Edwin Watts catalog in the mail today and my eye was drawn to the Mizuno MP-33 irons on page 27. I seem to recall some discussion last year about them, but have not seen any comments recently. Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing?
Talk with Mike D. He’s played them as well as the KZG blades and cavity backs. One thing to consider: The standard lie for the MP33 is 59.5* for a 6 iron, where the KZG is 61.5. You would need to get a fitting for them. -Diva T-
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I just received an Edwin Watts catalog in the mail today and my eye was drawn to the Mizuno MP-33 irons on page 27. I seem to recall some discussion last year about them, but have not seen any comments recently. Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing?
Switched to MP-33’s this past season and am in love with forged irons. I never really knew what "receiving feedback" from a club meant until I used these for a couple months. The "feedback" I felt was that the more I trusted them, the more relaxed I felt swinging them. The more I relaxed I felt, the better the ball flight. Once I felt what it was like to strike a ball cleanly and watch the results I fell more in love with this great game. No, I do not have any affiliation with Mizuno, I am simply a consumer who’s enjoyed his purchase. Best, ML in NH
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Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing?
the MP33’s are dead ringers for the pre 2001 golfsmith blades (which, btw, if anyone has an extra 8 iron head for please email me:). this is especially true with regards to the design and shape of the muscleback, less so with regards to the sole width and grind. i couldn’t really tell the difference in terms of offset; the gs blade is a bit larger. the gs topline is thinner, but this could be an illusion based on the way the 33’s are finished. i think the mizuno logo is more understated than the logo on the GS heads, but i still prefer the looks of the mp14/29 in terms of logo and scripting. hope this helps, paul
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just received an Edwin Watts catalog in the mail today and my eye was drawn to the Mizuno MP-33 irons on page 27. I seem to recall some discussion last year about them, but have not seen any comments recently. Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing? Talk with Mike D. He’s played them as well as the KZG blades and cavity backs. One thing to consider: The standard lie for the MP33 is 59.5* for a 6 iron, where the KZG is 61.5. You would need to get a fitting for them. -Diva T-
Although there are some places where you can buy KZG’s assembled, most are sold through clubmakers. Lie angles, loft etc, will be custom fit to the individual golfer, by the clubmaker. As far as playability goes – best on the market IMHO. — David RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members?rollcall=sneddond email: dsneddon AT cogeco DOT ca
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CA asked: Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing?
Well CA I’ve swung the Mp-33’s against the 14’s, 29’s, Nikes, Hogan Edge and the KZG’s. IMHO the 33’s are the finest blades on planet earth. Here’s more useless info. on the 33’s. They where the first ever clubs to be CAD designed. Three different designs were built and tested over the course of a year before the current model was released. The 33’s are a patented design. Like all Mizuno blades they are made from "A" grade 1020 mild carbon. Many companies won’t use this grade because of cost. (tighter grain pattern) Grain flow forging. Meaning: the head and hosel are all one piece and the grain runs in one direction. (patented) feel, feel, feel U-groves, better ball bite without cutting. spin,spin,spin. Great set-up, nice topline, good bounce angle, superb balance. *note. Mizuno does not build any clubs for any other companies. Tigers, Titleist blades where not I repeat NOT, built by Mizuno. Nor are KZG’s or any others. Regardless of what anyone says. My source: The friggin’ president of Mizuno! Non-declaimer, yes I am affiliate with Mizuno. But, I’m also affiliated with Nike/Precept, Titleist/Cobra, Hogan/Spalding, Cleveland, Callaway etc. etc. etc. Do you really think that there is a component club out there that plays and feels like, as you said , "the real thing".? -ss sale monkey extraordinarie RSG roll call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=shireys
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I just received an Edwin Watts catalog in the mail today and my eye was drawn to the Mizuno MP-33 irons on page 27. I seem to recall some discussion last year about them, but have not seen any comments recently. Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing? — CA Remove NoSpam to email me directly. Troll intolerant. I took the RSG 2002 Pledge.
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I just received an Edwin Watts catalog in the mail today and my eye was drawn to the Mizuno MP-33 irons on page 27. I seem to recall some discussion last year about them, but have not seen any comments recently. Does anybody have experiences to share? Also, for the clubbuilders out there – are there components that are similar enough to play just like the real thing?
MP-33….gorgeous. This, in my mind, is the ultimate pure golf club. The new Nike and Titleist blades are very similar. I believe Mizuno blades (either MP-33 or MP-14), with a Titleist logo, were the "prototype" blades Tiger played until he made the switch the Nike earlier this year. As for similar component blades, I believe both KZG and Golfsmith make something pretty close. I play MP-11 (2-PW) after playing a cast cavity back club for many years. These blades are less forgiving, and the mishits seem to be much shorter that mishits on my older clubs. However, the pure hits are like a red hot knife thru butter. I can draw and cut the ball with only a slight adjustment in my stance…and I FEEL like a better player becuase my clubs look so darn good. — Doug Main