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Henry-Griffits are nice, but they are !Expensive! thats for sure. My old HS Golf/football coach (Stan Woodfill) works there – get this he also was a kicker for the Cowboys. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -A friend of mine just got some fitted clubs from from Glendoveer. I believe they are "Griffiths". He seems very happy with the clubs and the service. EB
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A friend of mine just got some fitted clubs from from Glendoveer. I believe they are "Griffiths". He seems very happy with the clubs and the service. EB
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My fault. I meant irons. I guarantee that Calloway’s iron share among the better players is quite small. Show me. Here are the general market share numbers: Cobra 13.5% Ping 12.6% Callaway 10.2% Titleist 6.5% Armour 5.5% Wilson 5.1%
I don;t know if you mean "everybody" by "general market share", but I serisouly doubt that these numbers are correct for handicaps under 2, irons only. LIke I said, I’ve only seen three who carry calloway irons. Maybe they haven’t tried component clubs – what’s the reason too? Maybe they are good clubs???
I’m not doubting that. Never have. The topic of contest with myself concerns the better players and the better clubs. The list price of a 3-PW of the 845s is $299. This is for a club with basically a TT Dynalite shaft in it. If you get it at a low cost store, they will probably not do any fitting or spend much time with you. If you just want a cut and paste job with Golfsmith components, I’m sure you could get the Tour Cavity clubs with a Dynalite shaft for $20 a club.
"List price", yes. Actual retail price, no way. The stock shaft in any 845 is the tour step steel – a muchhigher quality shaft than the Dynalite. And no, of course the low cost store won’t do any fitting – better players won’t need them too – their pro;s will do it for them. / Josh
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My fault. I meant irons. I guarantee that Calloway’s iron share among the better players is quite small.
Show me. Here are the general market share numbers: Cobra 13.5% Ping 12.6% Callaway 10.2% Titleist 6.5% Armour 5.5% Wilson 5.1% Maybe they haven’t tried component clubs – what’s the reason too?
Maybe they are good clubs??? Bull. The Tour Cavity clubs with a Gold TT shaft has been offered here (by others) for $30/club. I could make and sell the Forged clubs for $40/club. The 845’s are not forged. At $30 a club, that’s around $270 (2-pw) for a set, before tax. Most NEW sets of 845s’s (Silver Scot) run from between $250-$300, and a mint used set can be had for less than $230.
The list price of a 3-PW of the 845s is $299. This is for a club with basically a TT Dynalite shaft in it. If you get it at a low cost store, they will probably not do any fitting or spend much time with you. If you just want a cut and paste job with Golfsmith components, I’m sure you could get the Tour Cavity clubs with a Dynalite shaft for $20 a club. The Armour clubs have lost a lot of market share over the last 5 years so their pro-line clubs are priced much lower than most pro-line clubs. IMO the price/performance of component clubs cannot be matched. All this being said, I am finding a greater acceptance of the Golfsmith Tour line. They are a real nice club. But, wouldn’t most of you say that Golfsmith is kind of going mainstream? It seems to be rather easy to undersell Golfsmith these days.
If by "going mainstream" you mean getting greater brand name recognition, yes they are. Their retail superstores have given them a great boost in a short amount of time. Relatively few people knew about Golfsmith a few years ago but that is changing fast. -John Baima DFW Golf and the Java Swingweight Calculator http://rampages.onramp.net/~jbaima/
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I thought it was spending his practice time designing golf courses. -joseph
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says… [del] The top amatures in the country play from a select line of clubs. Mizuno, Tommy Armour and Ping probably represent a full 50% of the clubs in the bag’s of all amatures under a 2 or so I think that Callaway has the largest market share.
in the under 2 market and in irons?? i don’t think so. if we are talking woods it’s a whole different story. they may have a part of the market share of irons but my no means the largest. i’d actually think mizuno, titleist and ping probably have top honours there. Now, I give full credit to the Tour cavity and Forged – they’ve been proven. But they’re not cheap – you can buy a NEW set of 845’s for the price of getting a set of those built. Bull. The Tour Cavity clubs with a Gold TT shaft has been offered here (by others) for $30/club. I could make and sell the Forged clubs for $40/club. The 845’s are not forged.
so you think that $400 for a set of 10 generic irons is not expensive?? for another couple of hundred you are buying top line oem forged blades. let’s not compare the forged with 845’s that apples and oranges imho. — peace brett brett r fenton school of civil engineering university of nsw australia
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says… I could not agree any more with you! We offer what most OEMs do not- choice! With a custom builder, folks get to CHOOSE a head, shaft, grip, flex, swing weight, length, loft, lie, you name it! The OEMs usually have ONE head, and a few shaft options.
no offense jim. i think that custom club builders have offered a great alternative in an industry that until recently did not offer any service as such. these days however, when you walk into a fitting center and choose a set of oem irons, you can choose what shaft goes into them. some companies that choice may be limited, others are happy to put in any shaft you specify. apart from that, you can choose any flex, grip, swingweight, length, lie and loft that you have been measured for or otherwise want. and as more and more oem’s see the light that service is everything, those that don’t are either dragged along or fall behind and loose market share. — peace brett brett r fenton school of civil engineering university of nsw australia
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Not just the Far East! There is a company here in Melbourne, Super Alloy Technologies, that makes titanium driver heads. Along with another company, National Forge Limited (whose main business, by the way, is car engine parts for companies like Ford and Toyota, and aircraft parts for companies like Boeing and Airbus) who forges the raw heads, they make 50,000 Taylor Made Burner Bubble 2 driver heads per month (600,000 per year). I assume these heads are shipped to the US and assembled with the Bubble Shaft and grip. Super Alloy Technologies has a patent on two-piece casting/production of pure titanium driver heads. They claim tolerances in manufacture of