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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

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This was awesome advice I received from someone else too. Many thanks. Hit the par 3 today and while I was over several strokes, my pitches were straight and had that nice loft. I’ll need to actually "pitch" better but the key was my solid contact and straight approach, all because I looked at the ball and didn’t move my head at all until it was definitely off the carpet. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -This is what I think the hardest thing for new players, especially on the course: Don’t look to see where the ball is going until after you have SEEN THE CLUBHEAD STRIKE THE BALL. After any shot you should be able to visualize what just happened when the clubhead was making contact with the ball (or ground, etc.) and be able to replay what happened at the time of contact.  If not, you were more than likely looking down the fairway.  This is known as "peeking" and can cause all kinds of problems.  This also applies to putting and chipping.  You will find similar problems with baseball,billiards, etc. I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

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Another idea is to check out the internet for those companies that make "clone" golf clubs.  (you know $1200 for a genuine set of Callaway’s… BUT on the interent a "clone" company can make *almost* the same thing for roughly $200). http://www.golfideas.com http://www.golfclubs.net …are just two of the sites that I have seen floating around the internet. Butch

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This is what I think the hardest thing for new players, especially on the course: Don’t look to see where the ball is going until after you have SEEN THE CLUBHEAD STRIKE THE BALL. After any shot you should be able to visualize what just happened when the clubhead was making contact with the ball (or ground, etc.) and be able to replay what happened at the time of contact.  If not, you were more than likely looking down the fairway.  This is known as "peeking" and can cause all kinds of problems.  This also applies to putting and chipping.  You will find similar problems with baseball,billiards, etc.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

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There is a driving range in Hoboken.  I give the lessons here – I invite you to come see the center and I’ll show you the lessons program.  Lessons are reasonably priced and most of my students do very well. The location of the driving range is 125 Grand Street.  Thats six blocks west of Washington Street between 1st and 2nd.  Its all indoors, its air conditioned and in addition to being able to hit all your clubs there is a putting course, swing analyzer and a golf simulator (for playing golf). The phone number is 201-876-9666. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Follow up — I think they are the Armour V31 and also I live in the Hoboken area in NJ and can get to chelsea piers in NY. If anyone can recommend where to go, lessons, and more, I’d greatly appreciate it. I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. No need to spend that much.  Just make sure you get fit correctly.  The shop should do a dynamic fitting – i.e. check the clubs as you swing them, not just as you address the ball. I’ll second that, and would suggest that you hold off on buying until you’ve had some lessons. That’ll allow you and your instructor to figure out what type of clubs and shafts will best fit you and your swing. Clubs are always going on sale somewhere, and the best bargain in the world is no bargain if they don’t work for you. Eliyahu Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? The fastest way to learn is to find a good teacher, and then take lessons once a week or once every two weeks, with 3 or 4 practice sessions in between.

That’s great advice, thank you. I didn’t realize that perhaps it is best for someone to evaluate my game and then choose the clubs for my style. I had always thought that as you are getting into the swing of things you adapt yourself to the equipment… I guess it’s a combination of the two but the clubs should compliment my natural strengths and weaknesses… Really… THANKS…

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I noticed the place on the web — thanks for the info. I’m looking to go golfing in the New York City area and I’ll e-mail you some time this weekend. It sounds like this is a good start. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a driving range in Hoboken.  I give the lessons here – I invite you to come see the center and I’ll show you the lessons program.  Lessons are reasonably priced and most of my students do very well. The location of the driving range is 125 Grand Street.  Thats six blocks west of Washington Street between 1st and 2nd.  Its all indoors, its air conditioned and in addition to being able to hit all your clubs there is a putting course, swing analyzer and a golf simulator (for playing golf). The phone number is 201-876-9666. Follow up — I think they are the Armour V31 and also I live in the Hoboken area in NJ and can get to chelsea piers in NY. If anyone can recommend where to go, lessons, and more, I’d greatly appreciate it. I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

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I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

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Follow up — I think they are the Armour V31 and also I live in the Hoboken area in NJ and can get to chelsea piers in NY. If anyone can recommend where to go, lessons, and more, I’d greatly appreciate it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

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what is the best time to go for green after so much practicing in driving range??

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

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I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set.

No need to spend that much.  Just make sure you get fit correctly.  The shop should do a dynamic fitting – i.e. check the clubs as you swing them, not just as you address the ball. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning?

The fastest way to learn is to find a good teacher, and then take lessons once a week or once every two weeks, with 3 or 4 practice sessions in between.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m a guy who has played a number of par 3s and been to the driving range a few times over the years but have been playing mostly on raw athletic ability. I need to improve my game as quickly as possible and plan to dedicate myself to doing so. I’m thinking that buying my own set of clubs would be a good idea to get myself familiar with them. I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

Dude, I just started playing as well… a few days ago I picked up a used set – oversize cavity back, Aldila graphite shafts, 1,3,4,5,7 woods, clean! $70 CAD! My 2 cents: get something cheap that you can abuse and misuse until your stroke gets better/more consistant. As far as improving your game goes, I’ve heard this many times from many different people: take lessons! I’m totally taking that advice and running with it… good luck :) peace DD Cut out YOUR_TONGUE to reply.

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I walked into a store and they were selling me on stuff they had on sale like Cleveland 400 or a Armour set that was supposedly half price. I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set. No need to spend that much.  Just make sure you get fit correctly.  The shop should do a dynamic fitting – i.e. check the clubs as you swing them, not just as you address the ball.

I’ll second that, and would suggest that you hold off on buying until you’ve had some lessons. That’ll allow you and your instructor to figure out what type of clubs and shafts will best fit you and your swing. Clubs are always going on sale somewhere, and the best bargain in the world is no bargain if they don’t work for you. Eliyahu – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? The fastest way to learn is to find a good teacher, and then take lessons once a week or once every two weeks, with 3 or 4 practice sessions in between.

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I don’t really know the difference but I’d like to spend not more than around 5-700 on a decent set.

I don’t have $700 to pay for clubs – not when I need to spend it on lessons and playing.   But $5 is a pretty good deal.

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…I don’t know if that is realistic but I’m really needing to learn my game and get out to a range and probably the par 3s to learn the short game too. Additionally, what would you say the best course to take is in accelerated learning? Time is always necessary but I’m willing to dedicate myself. I’d like to maximize that time.

      Short version:  Don’t use all of your practice time to blast away with the driver.         Long version:  Glad to hear that you want to work on the short game right away!  That is actually a good way to accelerate the improvement of your full swing.  While attempting a 10-yard chip, you may discover that you are having a hard time keeping {your head still, your back shoulder from dropping, your club low on the takeaway, your hands from squeezing too tight} or lots of other bad things from happening.  There is a good chance that the same bad habits are present in your full swing.  Many of these faults are easier to find and gain control of in the shorter shots.                                         — Andrew – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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