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Thanks, that’s pretty much the same I’ve found with the few shafts and heads I’ve tried. Just never had more than three or four at one time to try. Gaines
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… Kenny, save me some money, tell me what you found with the various shaft flexes. Compare distance and direction variation and consistency. Of course, what works for us probably has no bearing on what works for you. Keep in mind too, that we never had the same head with different shafts, so I can’t really give you a shaft comparison. But hell, why let facts get in the way of talking golf? FWIW, the shafts that performed the best for both of us in terms of both distance and accuracy were all R flex shafts: Ping 350, Penley Tour Light and BiMatrx. We were measuring our swingspeed’s while we hitting balls. My wife’s was in the low 70’s and mine ran 98 – 110 depending on if I was behaving myself or not. "The book" would tell you that neither one of us should be using R flex shafts, but that was our preference. I could do a better job with the stiff shafted clubs than she could, but I don’t like the feel, couldn’t hit then as far and couldn’t hit them as straight as the ones with the R flex shafts. Kenny — Kenny Stultz RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm I took the RSG anti-troll pledge UIP info: http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… Kenny, save me some money, tell me what you found with the various shaft flexes. Compare distance and direction variation and consistency. Of course, what works for us probably has no bearing on what works for you. Keep in mind too, that we never had the same head with different shafts, so I can’t really give you a shaft comparison. But hell, why let facts get in the way of talking golf? FWIW, the shafts that performed the best for both of us in terms of both distance and accuracy were all R flex shafts: Ping 350, Penley Tour Light and BiMatrx. We were measuring our swingspeed’s while we hitting balls. My wife’s was in the low 70’s and mine ran 98 – 110 depending on if I was behaving myself or not. "The book" would tell you that neither one of us should be using R flex shafts, but that was our preference. I could do a better job with the stiff shafted clubs than she could, but I don’t like the feel, couldn’t hit then as far and couldn’t hit them as straight as the ones with the R flex shafts. Kenny
Kenny, Keeping in mind that the label on the shaft saying "Regular’ or "Stiff" doesn’t really mean anything, other than a supposed guideline, and that it means different things to each manufacturer. My clubmaker friend just finished some work measuring six different shafts which were mounted on the same head. He was using the Swing Dynamics analyzer, and it took him almost two days, allowing for the epoxy to set on each shaft/club. He normally swings a driver around 93-94mph and all six shafts were, IIRC around the 244cpm mark, measured from 5" from the butt end with a 204gram weight on the tip. The differences in ball flight/ball spin/clubhead speed/carry and distance varied with each shaft, with one, an Innovative, being the best for low spin rate off the clubface, distance & carry and it measured a 4mph increase in clubhead speed. He has also completed quite a bit of work on CPM Zoning, which he used to determine the six shafts involved in the experiment, with some interesting results and will be presenting his work at the PCS AGM in Louisville next week. If you would like more details contact me by email, since there are financial interests involved. — David RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=sneddond email: dsneddon AT attcanada DOT ca Signatory & Supporter of the UIP http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/
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Kenny, save me some money, tell me what you found with the various shaft flexes. Compare distance and direction variation and consistency.
Of course, what works for us probably has no bearing on what works for you. Keep in mind too, that we never had the same head with different shafts, so I can’t really give you a shaft comparison. But hell, why let facts get in the way of talking golf? FWIW, the shafts that performed the best for both of us in terms of both distance and accuracy were all R flex shafts: Ping 350, Penley Tour Light and BiMatrx. We were measuring our swingspeed’s while we hitting balls. My wife’s was in the low 70’s and mine ran 98 – 110 depending on if I was behaving myself or not. "The book" would tell you that neither one of us should be using R flex shafts, but that was our preference. I could do a better job with the stiff shafted clubs than she could, but I don’t like the feel, couldn’t hit then as far and couldn’t hit them as straight as the ones with the R flex shafts. Kenny — Kenny Stultz RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm I took the RSG anti-troll pledge UIP info: http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/
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PS – Now if I could just get her stop walking around the house, beating her chest and talking about how she caved in a driver…..
And that’s a whole lot better than if she walked around the house beating her driver and caving in her chest.
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PS – Now if I could just get her stop walking around the house, beating her chest and talking about how she caved in a driver…..
Just tell her it has to be the face — the side doesn’t count. <G … Tom
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Kenny, save me some money, tell me what you found with the various shaft flexes. Compare distance and direction variation and consistency.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As unlikely as it seems, my wife has managed to dent her driver (Integra 450). So far, it still knocks the ball a long way (the dents are in the side wall), but who knows how long it will last. So this evening we gathered every driver in the barrel and headed for the driving range so she could decide what to use for an emergency driver if the need arises. My golfing friends like to call my basement "the barrel" because of the number of golf clubs down there (like the barrel of old used clubs you usually find at the golf store). We managed to round up 10 drivers. Yeah, I know, it’s silly to have that many lying around, but somehow it has just worked out that way. All the clubs had graphite shafts except one, with S,R and L flexes all represented. There were some steel heads, some composite heads and some titanium heads. Some small heads and some big heads. Manufacturers represented were Ping, Callaway, Ram, Lynx, Yonex and Kenny (stuff I’ve thrown together in the basement). We got a couple of large buckets and tried to see just how far we could hit some drives. We both hit all the different clubs and when all the smoke cleared, the more modern, large titanium-headed drivers performed the best by a wide margin for both of us. Sure I expected them to be the best of the bunch, but when I saw how wide the margin was, I was pretty surprised. Drivers that were top dogs in their heyday just didn’t show me much this afternoon. Maybe there is such a thing as better golf through technology. Kenny PS – Now if I could just get her stop walking around the house, beating her chest and talking about how she caved in a driver….. — Kenny Stultz RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm I took the RSG anti-troll pledge UIP info: http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/
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Occasionally I take my old drivers to the range and with 3/4 swings they do as well. The Ti/graphite jobs seem to show their stuff during full swings – I guess because they are more easily accelerated to higher speeds. My oldie clubs also are more prone to ugly looking drives when I mishit them. Which, for me, is fairly common. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – some drives. We both hit all the different clubs and when all the smoke cleared, the more modern, large titanium-headed drivers performed the best by a wide margin for both of us. Sure I expected them to be the best of the bunch, but when I saw how wide the margin was, I was pretty surprised. Drivers that were top dogs in their heyday just didn’t show me much this afternoon. Maybe there is such a thing as better golf through technology.
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It sounds like you two deserve each other.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kenny— For a real thrill, try hitting Persimmon woods. We’ve got 3 sets. (1 set is for show only; his are being used; the other is mine, but I have Callaway Big Berthas from 1994.) (My DH still plays with them. At least, for now.) Golfworks is running deals on Proforce 65’s (and giving away a free shaft in the one I want) as well as deals on Winn grips. -Mother T-
Damn, I knew there was one I missed!!!! I forgot to take the old Wilson Staff along. Kenny — Kenny Stultz RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm I took the RSG anti-troll pledge UIP info: http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/
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Kenny— For a real thrill, try hitting Persimmon woods. We’ve got 3 sets. (1 set is for show only; his are being used; the other is mine, but I have Callaway Big Berthas from 1994.) (My DH still plays with them. At least, for now.) Golfworks is running deals on Proforce 65’s (and giving away a free shaft in the one I want) as well as deals on Winn grips. -Mother T-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As unlikely as it seems, my wife has managed to dent her driver (Integra 450). So far, it still knocks the ball a long way (the dents are in the side wall), but who knows how long it will last. So this evening we gathered every driver in the barrel and headed for the driving range so she could decide what to use for an emergency driver if the need arises. My golfing friends like to call my basement "the barrel" because of the number of golf clubs down there (like the barrel of old used clubs you usually find at the golf store). We managed to round up 10 drivers. Yeah, I know, it’s silly to have that many lying around, but somehow it has just worked out that way. All the clubs had graphite shafts except one, with S,R and L flexes all represented. There were some steel heads, some composite heads and some titanium heads. Some small heads and some big heads. Manufacturers represented were Ping, Callaway, Ram, Lynx, Yonex and Kenny (stuff I’ve thrown together in the basement). We got a couple of large buckets and tried to see just how far we could hit some drives. We both hit all the different clubs and when all the smoke cleared, the more modern, large titanium-headed drivers performed the best by a wide margin for both of us. Sure I expected them to be the best of the bunch, but when I saw how wide the margin was, I was pretty surprised. Drivers that were top dogs in their heyday just didn’t show me much this afternoon. Maybe there is such a thing as better golf through technology. Kenny PS – Now if I could just get her stop walking around the house, beating her chest and talking about how she caved in a driver….. — Kenny Stultz RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm I took the RSG anti-troll pledge UIP info: http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/
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As unlikely as it seems, my wife has managed to dent her driver (Integra 450). So far, it still knocks the ball a long way (the dents are in the side wall), but who knows how long it will last. So this evening we gathered every driver in the barrel and headed for the driving range so she could decide what to use for an emergency driver if the need arises. My golfing friends like to call my basement "the barrel" because of the number of golf clubs down there (like the barrel of old used clubs you usually find at the golf store). We managed to round up 10 drivers. Yeah, I know, it’s silly to have that many lying around, but somehow it has just worked out that way. All the clubs had graphite shafts except one, with S,R and L flexes all represented. There were some steel heads, some composite heads and some titanium heads. Some small heads and some big heads. Manufacturers represented were Ping, Callaway, Ram, Lynx, Yonex and Kenny (stuff I’ve thrown together in the basement). We got a couple of large buckets and tried to see just how far we could hit some drives. We both hit all the different clubs and when all the smoke cleared, the more modern, large titanium-headed drivers performed the best by a wide margin for both of us. Sure I expected them to be the best of the bunch, but when I saw how wide the margin was, I was pretty surprised. Drivers that were top dogs in their heyday just didn’t show me much this afternoon. Maybe there is such a thing as better golf through technology. Kenny PS – Now if I could just get her stop walking around the house, beating her chest and talking about how she caved in a driver….. — Kenny Stultz RSG Rollcall: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm I took the RSG anti-troll pledge UIP info: http://home.globalfrontiers.com/rorider/